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This one has been pissing me off since the "story" broke.
"Inside sources say"..... say the media.
Other reports quote players as having said they got the whisperings of Hillis' discontent "from the media'...
Yup... the old 'snake swallowing its tail' scenario- yet again.
...You see why I'm so frustrated at all this? As if Our Beloved Team hasn't had enough of this tripe from the national media, we have to deal with it from our own 'local buncha yokels'.....
When Damanshot talks about hating the media, I'm sure that THIS is the kind of crap he's talking about. It doesn't even come close to legitimate journalism... and nowadays, news outlets are so pressed for readership they'll allow speculative dredge like this to be included in a real story for sake of readership.
Now, we have a media-made monster with a life of its own, dominating 4 straight questions in a row during Pat Shurmer's most recent presser.
It's evil. And insidious. AND.. it gets in the way of good facts and info that the fans want. Now, this story has become a huge distraction- if not for the team (which it could be), but for the fanbase that wants to be informed with real facts and data.
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the facts:
1. Peyton Hillis contracted a highly communicable disease, and was sent home from a Thursday practice for rest and fluids.
2. Peyton Hillis took antibiotics, the requisite downtime, and showed up to play on Sunday
3. Peyton Hillis was checked out by the staff, and it was determined that he wouldn't (or t least shouldn't) play. A decision was made.
4. Against the Miami Dolphins, Peyton Hillis didn't play. (The Cleveland Browns won that game).
5. Peyton Hillis returned to the team ready to play, was game-planned for... and was became victim of a blown-out game plan- once we fell behind by double-digit points.
[speculation]: The use of Montario Hardesty instead of Peyton Hillis in that losing cause was quite possibly a precaution against having a less-than-100% Peyton Hillis on the field.
Pleeeease.... put your rabies-induced fandom aside, folks... and connect the obvious dots, instead of jumping to conclusions that are at best speculation, and at worst- manipulation.
This, IMHO, is nothing more than yet another media construct- designed to sell papers, get webhits, and stir up controversy where none should exist.
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The problem with media-constructed rumors is that they need no basis in fact to exist, they needn't the weight of legitimacy to gain a life of their own, and they never need to be defended... instead, those involved are required to 'legitimize' themselves against the rumors, which can never actually be accomplished, as long as a preponderance of weak minds wish to entertain those rumors. To even fight against them is a loser's proposition. That's why I hate this stuff so much. It takes energy and legitimacy away from the real truth, which weak minds aren't interested in anyway.
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FWIW, I'm glad Peyton 'kicked it up to the coaches' when he was asked. It was the right thing to do- since the question involved decidion-making that he wasn't involved with. Further, I think Pat handled it about as well as anyone could, when he answered with his "these are the facts" type responses.
Is there a more rabid, sleazy, obvious and transparent SportsMedia corps than the Cleveland base? Maybe only in NY and LA.....
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The Cleveland Plain-Dealer's Tony Grossi believes Peyton Hillis will request a trade ahead of the October 18 deadline.
Grossi says contract talks between the Browns and Hillis are "not going well," and that a trade request is likely the "next step." It's hard to imagine the Browns cutting ties with one of their few offensive weapons, though it's become clear they have little interest in inking their feature back to a lucrative long-term extension. While Hillis and his third agent in four months desperately struggle to maintain leverage, the Browns have little motivation to act on a trade request even if Montario Hardesty looms as a potential replacement.
Can't stand Tony Grossi. The guy comes off as completely arrogant on all the STO Browns shows he's on. Nothing more than him trying to stir up controversy during an otherwise quiet bye week IMO.
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The Cleveland Plain-Dealer's Tony Grossi believes Peyton Hillis will request a trade ahead of the October 18 deadline.
Grossi says contract talks between the Browns and Hillis are "not going well," and that a trade request is likely the "next step." It's hard to imagine the Browns cutting ties with one of their few offensive weapons, though it's become clear they have little interest in inking their feature back to a lucrative long-term extension. While Hillis and his third agent in four months desperately struggle to maintain leverage, the Browns have little motivation to act on a trade request even if Montario Hardesty looms as a potential replacement.
Can't stand Tony Grossi. The guy comes off as completely arrogant on all the STO Browns shows he's on. Nothing more than him trying to stir up controversy during an otherwise quiet bye week IMO.
I think I have Tony Figured out. If there isn't a story, he creates one so he has something to write about
I don't tweat, but the PD has the tweats by Hillis that say it all.. Paraphrasing him now, he wrote: "If I was physically able to play against the Dolphins I would have" of Course those aren't the exact words used..
Here's the thing. Hillis has been here for a year and a 1/4 now and was there ever a time since he arrived that anyone questioned his heart? NO.. So why, just because some reporter twists things do we even consider it real now?
You'll excuse me if I just ain't buying any issues.
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I agree with you - but the recent deals of AP and CJ kinda skew the value of RB's in the last few weeks.
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I think the worst thing that happened in this contract thing is he was named to the Madden cover. It over inflated his worth. He is not in the same class as AP and CJ, so their deals really shouldn't matter. I just hope Hillis and his agent come to their senses, i kind of like him as a brown and would hate to see him elsewhere.
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He is not in the same class as AP and CJ
Not even close to AP. And we havent seen the Hillis we fell in love with since before the end of last season.
There is no more explosion.
Id be hesitant to give him a big deal honestly. Upper half RB money, but defintely not in the top 5-10 type money.
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I was watching NFLN this eve, and a spot called: "Hillis' Future?" came up in the queue. Since it was a bye week for Cleve, I knew it would be about the only Browns-related content I'd get, so I decided to hang around to hear what would be said. The nugget was by Jason LaCanfora, who said thet the Browns and Hillis' agent may be quite a ways apart, but:
1. Hillis wants to stay and play (this is from him and his agent)
2. The Browns want Hillis to stay and play
3. Hillis was out for a week because of his illness, NOT a contract-related move
4. Both parties are hard at work trying to hammer out a contract deal.
LaCanfora went on to say that the rumors and "reports" bear little resemblance to the answers he got when probing both parties about the (non-) "issue."
Now- I guess we could call LaCanfora a "corpoate shill," and completely discount what he just reported in favor of rumor and wild speculation, but dang, folks.... doesn't this smell more and more like a cheap local media ploy to you? It sure does to me....
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Absolutly on Grossi. He makes stuff up in order to have something to report. and when confronted, he shrugs his shoulders and says, I'm just reporting what I see..... dude needs glasses 
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Not sure if this has been posted.. From todays Plain Dealer Quote:
Browns' Cribbs: Hillis 'comes out ready to play' every weekBy Marc Sessler NFL.com
Published: Oct. 8, 2011 at 09:23 a.m. Updated: Oct. 8, 2011 at 09:30 a.m. Browns receiver Josh Cribbs on Friday came to the aide of Peyton Hillis, saying that Cleveland's locker room never questioned the running back's commitment.
Hillis came under fire after missing a Week 3 game against the Miami Dolphins with strep throat, which some construed as a protest against his slow-moving contract negotiation with the team. Cribbs shot that down quick.
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"It's been blown out of proportion," Cribbs told WKRK-FM on Friday. "In the locker room, if it was a guy we that, you know, we really didn't think they deserved it, we'd all be like 'Man, what is you doing?' You'd hear mimicking ... snickering and talking behind their back, and we'd kind of pull that guy to the side and say, "Hey, man, just keep playing, and hopefully you'll get it one day.'
"But it's Peyton Hillis you're talking about, the guy on the Madden cover, the guy that had all the accolades last year, and he comes out ready to play and ball out every game. So, you don't question a guy like that on the team."
Cribbs said nobody doubted Hillis' condition before the Dolphins game.
"Peyton will play if he's able to play, and battle if he's able to battle ... we just need to relax on that."
Cribbs then dropped a crystal-clear tweet on the matter: "When u bleed next to a warrior in battle & their bleeding & battling 2, I tend not to question their toughness!!!"
We feel it's time to close the book on this sideshow.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82..._headline_stack
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web page 64°F Cleveland News Sports Entertainment cleveland.com Android app Cleveland Browns RB Peyton Hillis admits he probably could've played vs. Miami, but agent advised against it Mary Kay Cabot, The Plain Dealer 10/10/2011 1:51 PM BEREA -- Browns running back Peyton Hillis admitted today that he probably would've played sick against the Dolphins if his agent hadn't advised him not to. "I'm stubborn,'' said Hillis. "I needed somebody else's opinion. I am hard-headed and I like to go out there and play even though I'm probably not up for it.'' He said he has no regrets about taking the advice of agent Kennard McGuire because "he knows my heart'' and has his best interests in mind. "It was the right thing for myself, the right thing for the team,'' he said. He added, "if he'd have said, 'Peyton, you do your thing,' then I'd have listened to that. But he is my agent and he does help me out and I think we made the right choice, because I was definitely not healthy enough to play.'' He also admitted that he worried about not fulfilling his goal of retiring as a Brown. "Whenever something's not set in stone, I guess anything's possible -- which means your career not here,'' he said. "Yea, that definitely worries me.'' He also said he's sorry if he hurt the feellings of any of his teammates who may have wondered if his absence from the game was contract-related. He re-iterated that there's no way he could've played with the strep-throat and flu-like symptoms. He added that he would like to retire here, but knows that anything is possible when it comes to contract negotiations. McGuire told the Plain Dealer that speculation that he's asking for Adrian Peterson or Chris Johnson-like money -- two blockbuster deals -- is inaccurate. He said if some of the language and structure were different, the deal might be done by now. He stressed that negotiations have not been acrimonious and that he was in Cleveland all day meeting with the Browns the day after the Miami game. "Does anyone think he would sit out the game if he didn't absolutely have to on the day before I was to meet with the team about his contract?'' said McGuire. Hillis said he thinks that Mike Holmgren's remark on ESPN that the Browns were "trying like crazy'' to get him extended may have led to the intense focus on the negotiations. He stressed he wasn't criticizing Holmgren for saying it, just that it spotlighted the situation.
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Peyton Hillis is killing my opinion of him. Just shut up and play football and let this thing die. The more he and his agent talks the worse it gets.
A month ago anyone talks about trading Hillis, I would have led the charge in burning them at the stake, now I don't really care. He is just a hand puppet for his agent. Here I thought the agent's hand was just reaching for his wallet, now it looks like there is a slit in the back of his pants and that hand is going much deeper lol
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http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AjqmpTnvBW_cQo4JgWIFToA5nYcB?slug=ap-browns-hillisBrowns RB Hillis doubting future with team By TOM WITHERS, AP Sports Writer 58 minutes ago . tweet73 Email Print .. . BEREA, Ohio (AP)—Peyton Hillis(notes) wanted to retire with the Browns. Now, he’s wondering and worrying if he has a future in Cleveland beyond the next 12 games. Hillis, whose stalled negotiations with the team on a contract extension have spawned weeks of analysis, conjecture and rumor, said Monday he has no regrets about sitting out the Sept. 25 game against Miami with strep throat, a decision—reached with the advice of his agent—that fueled reports he missed the game to protest not getting a new deal. Hillis is in the final year of his rookie deal and will make a base salary of $600,000 this season. As for next season, he beginning to doubt he’ll be around. Related Video . Fantasy: RBs to play Fantasy: RBs to play Fantasy: QB advice Fantasy: WRs to start . More NFL Videos AdChoices “Whenever something’s not set in stone, then I guess anything is possible, which means your career’s not here,” he said. “So, yeah, that definitely worries me.” The Browns returned from their bye week with the Hillis matter remaining a hot topic. Following the team’s first practice since last Wednesday, Hillis stood in the middle of Cleveland’s locker room with his arms folded across his chest for more than 10 minutes answering questions about his contract. Hillis could have ended the controversy. Instead, it lingers. Last week, agent Kennard McGuire told The Associated Press that he cautioned his client not to play against the Dolphins for fear Hillis had been weakened by the illness and could have jeopardized his career by playing and getting hurt. Hillis said he considered McGuire’s guidance before deciding it was best to sit out. “It was his recommendation, but it was ultimately my choice in the end,” Hillis said. “We both knew how sick I was and how bad it could be for the team and for myself if I had tried to play, so it wasn’t just my agent’s decision. It was mine also and he was just looking out for me.” Hillis said without McGuire’s counsel he might have tried to play. “I am stubborn and I am hardheaded,” he said. “By the way I was feeling, I just needed somebody else’s opinion.” Hillis’ absence from the Browns’ win over the Dolphins was followed by an ESPN report, citing unidentified sources, that some unnamed players in Cleveland’s locker room felt his contract situation may have been a factor in him skipping the game. Hillis said he was not disturbed by the report and that he and McGuire decided to keep the story fresh in the media because he wants to remain a Brown. McGuire also told the AP that Hillis has been affected by the ongoing contract talks and feels “underappreciated” in Cleveland. Hillis downplayed being distracted by his uncertain future in Cleveland, but acknowledged he wishes his contract situation could be resolved. “You feel unappreciated because you want to get something done and nothing has gotten done at this point,” said Hillis, who rushed for nearly 1,200 yards and 11 touchdowns last season. “You don’t know the ultimate feelings in the end of what’s going on up top (in the front office). You take it with a grain of salt and you keep moving on.” Hillis insists the talks aren’t putting any extra pressure on him to perform. “I wouldn’t say weighing on me. I’d rather say just being patient,” he said. “I’ve got to be patient and ultimately the decision’s not up to me. You’ve got to go out there and play your best. It’s about what you do on the football field.” Part of Hillis’ frustration stems from the Browns taking care of other players. The team has signed several of its young “core” to extensions, and to this point, Hillis isn’t one of them. In the past two months, Pro Bowl offensive tackle Joe Thomas(notes), tight end Evan Moore(notes), defensive tackle Ahtyba Rubin(notes) and linebacker Chris Gocong(notes) have received new deals. Team president Mike Holmgren recently said the Browns were “trying like crazy” to sign Hillis, a comment that may have led to unrealistic expectations around the talks. McGuire has remained in “close contact” with the Browns throughout the season, but the sides remain apart. Hillis said he doesn’t know where things stand at the moment and his only focus is getting ready for Sunday’s game against the Oakland Raiders. “Perception is reality,” he said. “People take what they want to from things. I feel I play hard every time I step on the field. I think everyone can see that I give my full effort, so whatever people think that’s their opinion, but it really doesn’t affect me.” Although Hillis’ situation has been a constant around the team, Moore said it’s not a distraction. He believes it will all go away. “Peyton and those guys upstairs will get the situation handled the right way,” Moore said. “It’s definitely not for us to concern ourselves with. If we start to get involved with that, we can quickly be told to keep our mouths shut and go back to work. We all have a job to do and that’s definitely not our job to worry about that. “Peyton will be fine. They’ll get that thing worked out.” ________________________________________________________________ Team-wise a bye week couldnt have come at a better time after that Tennessee game, and the more I think about the unrest that was the night of the game after the loss was bad...but i'm glad that theres unhappiness in a big loss, that means they dont want to have that again, and hopefully those emotions can and have been channeled in the right direction, but for the Hillis contract situation this bye week couldnt have come at a worse time. If I'm Holmgren and Heckert, I'm willing to make some concessions to get this contract done even if its a little less organizational friendly than the original plan, because the health of this franchise right now is fragile and getting the extension done asap can really put this behind us. Im glad the negotiations arent hostile right now but this is getting annoying in the media.
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I wonder what kind of money Hillis wants. I wonder if anyone will give it to him.
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After all of this I am open to moving him for the right price. He isn't an elite back and is replacable. The fact that his agent and not the doctors were the deciding voice really irks me. Dude neds to shut up and play football or get gone
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Man, it's easy to become cynical about pro sports, given all the bad press, jail time, acrimonious contract talks, holdouts, "me-first" players, etc....
-but this story had sensationalism written all over it from Day One.
It seems that the more solid info comes out, the more those early speculations were baseless- and formed from (or fed by) peoples' worst impressions of the pro sport. I really do believe that Hillis is a different breed of cat- and it saddens me that a negative "story" about him gained so much traction so quickly.
It's almost as if there's no room left in peoples' consciousness for a genuine "good guy" any more.
Sad, IYAM.
Until a story with weight comes out casting Hillis in a negative light, I'm content to continue seeing him as I have... one of the few talents the Browns have had with no baggage attached.
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After all of this I am open to moving him for the right price. He isn't an elite back and is replacable. The fact that his agent and not the doctors were the deciding voice really irks me. Dude neds to shut up and play football or get gone
Madden curse continues....only this time it has inflated his ego...and here this whole time we all thought this guy was one of us. If he signs he signs, if not then we will move right along without him....lets not forget we have Brandon Jackson coming back from injury next year. I think he is the type of RB we need for this system, and looked great before the injury.
I am a big fan of Hillis, but an even BIGGER fan of the Browns. RB's are a dime a dozen IMO
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all due respect, Tubby- but I just don't see the inflated ego that you seem to- not based on the quotes we've seen.
Care to point me in the right direction as to what (specifically) you've seen here?
just curious....
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Well if the fact his agent (not the Dr or coaches) is the one giving him the final decision on if he should play or not isn't bothersome to you then I guess you are fine.
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so that makes 2 stories about the same issue. There's a report that he was examined by Cleveland staff, and was advised to not play, as well.
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Read the article I posted Clem......he said his agent decided and "was looking out for him"........not Grossi or ESpin or anyone else he said it.
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I did Willie- I'm not disputing the article you posted. I distictly read another article that said Cleveland staff advised he sit out, as well.
If my memory is correct, then we have 2 versions of the story. It's entirely possible that both are factual, and Hillis is only addressing this one angle.
I'll see if I can find that atricle....
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its not even an issue to me..
My wife just had strep a little less than a month ago.. its horrible and takes a toll on ur body..
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all due respect, Tubby- but I just don't see the inflated ego that you seem to- not based on the quotes we've seen.
Care to point me in the right direction as to what (specifically) you've seen here?
just curious....
I am just getting the "Me First" vibe from him....I dont remember him ever talking or acting this way last year when he was just an "aww shucks Im just glad to be here" type player...now he is talking about the people who "really care" know and understand him, he is looking out for "his career", if it was really just him being sick that would be one thing.
He should of came out and said I wasnt able to play, and been done with it. but it seems like every time we are ready to move on either him or his agent have to come out and stir it back up.
Personally I am sick of this story, and just want him to man up and be the player he was last year! If he wants re-signed then he needs to shut up to the media and do his talking on the field! And as far as that part goes, I havnt seen the Hillis of last year!
One year wonder? Im not ready to call him that just yet.....but he needs to start putting up or shut up!
JMO for what it is worth gang!
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Here, for what it's worth, is what should be the final story on this sorry mess created by Tony Grossi.. http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/arti...a0-c5d01762b05a Quote:
Hillis, Shurmur address questions
By Matt Florjancic, ClevelandBrowns.com Staff Writer
Posted 13 hours ago
aaPeyton Hillis and Pat Shurmur both addressed questions about Hillis missing the Miami Dolphins game on Monday.
Nearly three weeks ago, running back Peyton Hillis was hampered by a battle with strep throat and did not play in the Browns’ 17-16 win over the Miami Dolphins at Cleveland Browns Stadium.
Since missing that game, Hillis and Browns coach Pat Shurmur have been asked questions about the illness.
“It was my choice to make,” Hillis said about whether his agent told him not to play against the Dolphins. “We both knew how sick I was and how bad it could be for the team and myself if I tried to play. It wasn’t just my agent’s decision; it was my call also. He’s just looking out for me; that’s what he’s there for. I have to give him thanks too for looking out for me because I am stubborn and I’m hard-headed. I like to go out there and play, even though I was probably not up for it.”
Shurmur added, “We’re just looking forward to playing a game. That’s where I’m at; I think that’s where he’s at. Beyond that, everybody’s going to have an opinion. From a coaching standpoint, I’m going to move on, watch him play against the Oakland Raiders and I think that’s where he’s at as well.”
Hillis was bothered by some of the talk that he intentionally missed the Miami game and posted on his Twitter page that he “loves the city and would like to retire here.”
“I’m the kind of guy that’s going to go on what my heart thinks, what my heart feels,” Hillis said. “The sad part about it is I’m ashamed that anybody would think I would never play if I could benefit the team. I’ve never been that kind of guy; I’ve always been a guy that wears my emotions on my sleeve; go out there, do the best I can; treat every day like it’s my last day and I treat every play like it’s my last play.”
Hillis returned to the Browns lineup one week after missing the Miami game and rushed for 46 yards on 10 carries in a 31-13 loss to the Tennessee Titans. He also caught five passes for 23 yards.
Hillis leads the Browns with 197 yards and two touchdowns on 54 carries and is second on the team with 15 catches. Combined between his rushing attempts and catches, Hillis has accounted for 69 touches and 273 yards of total offense.
“Our last ball game, we didn’t respond well and hopefully, we come back against Oakland this week and come out with a win,” Hillis said. “That will help our confidence and that’s what I’m looking forward to right now. It’s my job to play and win games.”
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For those that want to continue to bash Hillis, GMAFB. The dude is a warrior.. he'll always play if he's physically capable.. End of discussion as far as I'm concerned.
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The headlines of the articles posted by BWS and KS do not match the quotes by the player.
It's almost like the reporters think the "story" is too good to let die, when it's been contradicted over and over by multiple people.
Also, just because it was his agent who made him realize it wasn't a good idea for anyone not a fan of the Miami Dolphins for him to play, doesn't mean it wasn't the right decision.
Put it to rest Grossi, Mary Kay, everyone else.
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yeah right. Hillis could have a HOF career for the Browns from here on out and when Grossi meets with the HOF committee he would probably bring this up 
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Yeah, I've been leaning towards media overhype. I'm sure there's a little smoke, but the media wants flames you can see for miles and miles.
The way I see it? We WON the game Hillis missed and it appears Shurmur will have had a good amount of time to adjust his gameplan. There is a proper balance of Hillis and Hardesty that can be utilized in order for things to be moving productively and avoid garbage time. If that happens (no reason why it shouldn't), everybody should be happy . . .
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It looks as if one of Hillis' teammates has taken it upon himself to get the spotlight off of him. Browns DL Marcus Benard breaks arm in motorcycle accident Let's just hope he wasn't doing wheelies or some such insanity at the time.
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Tough break for Marcus Benard ... I wonder if English will be brought up from the PS?
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does it allow us to put him on the reserve non-football injury list?
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Give Hillis 5 years 30 million offer, if he doesn't want it move on with someone else.
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I'm sure Hillis would jump all over that. Especially if you guaranteed 1/3 of it.
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Well maybe because it's more years but they just signed Gocong to a 3 year 18mil. Peyton is worth more to the team than Chris so logic says they will need to pay him more than the 6mil/year that Gocong is getting.
3 year, 20mil with a 4th year option.
No matter what this will get worked out. Media portrayed contract talks are always uglier then reality. Remeber Cribbs? I was reading posts on this board that he was going to go to Pittsburgh and stick it to us twice a year because the Browns were screwing with him.
He can run and catch the ball out of the backfield. He is a perfect fit for the WCO and it can extend his career as well.
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Well maybe because it's more years but they just signed Gocong to a 3 year 18mil. Peyton is worth more to the team than Chris so logic says they will need to pay him more than the 6mil/year that Gocong is getting.
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He can run and catch the ball out of the backfield. He is a perfect fit for the WCO and it can extend his career as well.
I agree. I sure hope this management staff isn't so stupid to allow Peyton Hillis to go. He's the perfect RB for us. It seems like the reporters are trying to really make something out of nothing. It's absolutely obnoxious.
He is the best player on our offense (if we use him correctly). Let's get this guy re-signed.......
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Instead of talking about tabloids, contracts, etc. I pose a question to all of you. Where does Hillis fit into the WCO philosophy?
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When he isn't hurt, sick, or on a bye week, we'll know. 
In the old school WCO, he's the perfect fullback because he can block, run, and catch. In this version? Hell, they are still trying to define this version, and he hasn't played enough to tell. Half of that has been on him for various reasons.
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Instead of talking about tabloids, contracts, etc. I pose a question to all of you. Where does Hillis fit into the WCO philosophy?
Hillis should be a spectacular WCO RB. He can catch the ball extremely well, and is an excellent blocker. He can also run the ball well.
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Instead of talking about tabloids, contracts, etc. I pose a question to all of you. Where does Hillis fit into the WCO philosophy?
Hillis should be a spectacular WCO RB. He can catch the ball extremely well, and is an excellent blocker. He can also run the ball well.
THIS!! Hillis isn't EXPLOSIVELY FAST, but he is a great RB and a LOT better than Hardesty..
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I think Hillis is alot of things, but "explosively fast" isn't one of'em. He runs with an "explosive burst" in short areas but that's different. He doesn't have the speed to get to holes and make cuts that Mondesty can make.
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