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As much as I like this QB class, I think there is a really good chance we go after Matt Flynn via free agency. If that were to happen, Heckert could go any direction, but I would just go ahead and get my franchise running back with Trent Richardson.

Atlanta's pick appears to be headed for late teens, the value there is probably best in linebacker or corner at this point. Would be a good spot to trade back as well.

As for Tannehill, he had a so/so game, None of the QBs looked like their normal stud self this week. 1 game doesn;t mean anything. This group of QBs are outstanding.

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but I would just go ahead and get my franchise running back with Trent Richardson.

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Wouldn't that require us using our first rounder on him? That should be a top ten pick and I would never even think about drafting a RB in the top ten unless the player is a transcendent talent (like Adrian Peterson or C.J. Spiller).

Do you think Richardson is that type of player (I'm not saying he isn't, just curious)? What about LaMichael James later in the draft?

It would be nice to be able to get Blackmon and then a linebacker/corner/right tackle with our second first rounder

I'm on the Richardson train as well. And I'm usually completely against running backs in the first-round. Richardson is just that good.

richardson is my #2 ranked player. That says a lot in this class because I love the QBs and Morris Claiborne.

I like Richardson as a player. I think his talent is similar to Peterson. My concern about taking him that high would be will Shurmur use him in a manner to make him worth the pick? I can't blame him for not doing much with Clayton and Obie but he didn't get great use out of Hillis or Hardesty when they were healthy.

Richardson is the more complete player. Better hands, better blocker and doesnt fumble. AP probably has better top end speed but Richardson has a great and I do mean a great initial burst and covers that first 10 quicker than QP.

I love that he has that he also has that emmit smith get low and squeak out yards when there was none to gain but really its that shimmy and spin move he can use at high speed which is just insane. He is a rare back.

Wanted to add similar style to AP in that both run with tremendous power and can break tackles. He also has fantastic vision to find that narrow hole. If he had played 8 games for us this year, with the kind of holes this OL has opened. He would be averaging a 100 a game.

A.P. was a better runner but Richardson is better as a receiver. I'd say A.P. was better overall, but he also had the injury issues coming out. Richardson can be the best in the NFL.

Indy will go receiver or trade down. Pretty sure they have a slew of free agents this year with Reggie Wayne, Garcon *spelling killer I know*, Mathis is a FA also, maybe Jacob Tamme too.

Rams need OL and Receiver
Jags need receivers
Panthers desperate for defense
Arizona needs an OT desperately
Seattle is starting to warm up to Tavaris Jackson
The Denver Tebows are starting to put wins together and no one sells jersey's and fills seats like Tebow.

Redskins are the most likely to trade up for a QB, I could see Snyder and shanahan both going gaga for Luck. Sell the farm.

Miami will go QB but Moore has that team playing with confidence. Not sure where they will be picking.

KC has invested in Matt Cassell but he is now on IR and just hasn't played that well.

Even though more teams are getting off the QB must have list, other teams are climbing on it. We will probably end up drafting 4-6 so major decisions coming. Then with Atlanta say 14-17.

Man this is going to be really interesting.

about the only thing in common all the teams listed have which includes us needs OL and recievers and perhaps QB.
I think manning is done and unless someone offers them a New Orleans Ricky Williams trade I think they take the QB and call it another decade of domination.

So you are saying the Colts wiln't draft Luck?

jk

We will have 3 picks in the top 40 players. A qb would be nice but I would be ok without drafting a qb as long as we get 3 high quality guys. Meaning above average NFL players. TJ Ward is an ok player but not acceptable in my opinion for a high 2nd round pick. We need to do better and this draft should be deep at positions in which we are weakest. We need players with talent, speed and power. Playmakers who will make us a better. Whether they are on the offense or defense or a combination of the two we need to get premier players and really bump up the talent quotient on this team.

Here's one for ya'...lol...

Indy really likes Jones's big arm for that Vertical Attack Offense...

Indy
St. Louis
Miami
Carolina
Zona
Cleveland

Indy moves down to 6 for U KNOW WHAT...We snag Luck...

Miami goes Barkley...

Indy gets Jones at 6...OOOO YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'd trade our Atlanta selection and the extra 4th rounder and get Mallett from New England.

He's as good as any this year and he has 1 season of being a NFL player.

He's just a guy to me- when I've seen him playing at least- who just looks skittish if there's any semblance of a rush. With us not having the support at ANY of the positions NE's offensive side of the ball has, particularly the trenches and skill positions, he'd be a huge risk here given his maturity level. Matt Kassell hadn't started since high school and could relax, sip Long Islands, and smoke cigs in the pocket to move the football. I mean his arm is amazing, but I certainly aren't giving up a first for him.

Peen I liked Mallett as well, but I get the feeling the Pats are looking to groom him for Brady's replacement. I dont think we would consider a 1st for a guy we passed on in the 3rd anyway.

I think Matt Flynn is more of a realistic option. No draft pick involved.

DnD, when they have these workouts Jones is gonna wow like no other. Now if he can show that he can pickup and run an NFL offense, then there will be owners a few general managers thats just gotta have that arm.

j/c

I don't think there is any way we don't get a QB in the offseason. I still have some hope for McCoy, but he hasn't done enough to prove he's the answer and that means we need to at the very least offer him some competition.

whether that means a guy like Flynn, drafting a QB in round1, or even waiting until round2 to draft a QB is the question. i don't see us waiting longer than that to nab our guy.

Mallet = Derek Anderson 2.0

Should have just kept Anderson if we wanted a big armed QB who can't read a defense and is going to throw a ton of picks.

i see your point, but i think heckert/holmgren could have drafted a 3rd round QB and said they were grooming him as Colt's backup and current QB3 (and even talked about how we needed all 3 QBs last year).

with Holmgren's QB draft history specifically, it would not have been too big of a surprise (more drafts with a QB than without).

Maybe so....

Where is the start Thad Lewis thread?

By Chad Reuter
Tell Chad your opinion! Senior Analyst - NFLDraftScout.com
As the calendar flipped to November, the general order of April's draft has begun to take shape.

The top eight picks go to teams jostling for position through their poor play, with a falling Washington Redskins team possibly joining that "fight" if their offense can't muster points or protect the quarterback.

There is also a logjam near the playoff/non-playoff line, especially in the AFC where at least one of four teams that went into Week 9 at 5-2 teams -- Baltimore, Buffalo, Cincinnati and New England -- won't make the playoffs.

That means they'll miss out on the draft's elite talent by selecting in the late teens without getting a chance to play for a championship.

As the tension builds, NFLDraftScout.com will continue to bring you weekly mock draft updates until the pieces have all fallen into place.
NFL Mock Draft - 11/17/2011
Round 1

1. Indianapolis Colts
Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford: The winless Colts now have a stranglehold on the No. 1 pick. Even if Peyton Manning can return in 2012, his multiple neck surgeries can't give the Colts much confidence he'll stay on the field more than a couple of seasons. This means bringing in Luck to replace the future Hall of Famer seems a prudent move.

2. Miami Dolphins
Matt Barkley, QB, Southern California: Matt Moore has played well enough for the Dolphins to win the past two weeks over rapidly descending Kansas City and Washington squads, but it's unlikely the team will stand pat at the position for 2012.

3. St. Louis Rams
Zach Brown, OLB, North Carolina: At least one defensive player is selected in the top five of every draft. Brown is the odds-on favorite for this honor after displaying an excellent all-around game for North Carolina in his senior year, and his Combine performance is only expected to cement his status as an elite prospect.

4. Carolina Panthers
Justin Blackmon, WR, Oklahoma State: Adding another legitimate big-play threat to pair with veteran Steve Smith can only help the progression of their 2011 top pick, quarterback Cam Newton.

5. Minnesota Vikings
Matt Kalil, OT, Southern California: Adding Kalil up front should help keep last year's first-round pick, quarterback Christian Ponder, calmer in the pocket.

6. Washington Redskins
Ryan Tannehill, QB, Texas A&M: Head coach Mike Shanahan will have his pick of quarterbacks unless the Redskins right the ship in a hurry. Tannehill's upside is intriguing, as his size, athleticism, strong arm, and intelligence are what coaches and scouts like to see -- even if his decision-making isn't as consistent as they'd like.

7. Cleveland Browns
Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama: The drama surrounding Peyton Hillis may keep the Browns from signing him to a contract extension. If this is the case, the talented Richardson would be a natural fit.

8. Jacksonville Jaguars
Alshon Jeffery, WR, South Carolina: Right now the Jaguars are using other teams' castoffs in Jason Hill and Brian Robiskie to support 2011 first-round pick QB Blaine Gabbert.

9. Seattle Seahawks
Robert Griffin, QB, Baylor: Though not the biggest quarterback, Griffin will present challenges for NFL defenses with his strong arm and quick feet. He can sit behind a veteran for 2012 while adjusting to the NFL game, but the junior is already in graduate school and the play of 2011 rookies Cam Newton and Andy Dalton is showing teams they can help their young quarterbacks succeed early with good talent and game plans.

10. Philadelphia Eagles
Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame: DeSean Jackson's issues may have him leaving Philly sooner rather than later, and Jeremy Maclin has not been the consistent playmaker the team needs.

11. Arizona Cardinals
Riley Reiff, OT, Iowa: The Cardinals' investment in Kevin Kolb makes it crucial for him to stay healthy, and the team may not re-sign veteran free agent left tackle Levi Brown.

12. Kansas City Chiefs
Jonathan Martin, OT, Stanford: Martin isn't as athletic as the tackles going ahead of him in this draft, but should be a solid starter for years to come at either left or right tackle.

13. Denver Broncos
Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma: The Broncos went 3-1 in the first four games with Tim Tebow leading the way. His 2-of-8 passing effort vs. Kansas City isn't likely to earn points with Hall of Fame passer and current VP of operations John Elway, who will look for a prototype pocket passer.

14. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Morris Claiborne, CB, LSU: If Ronde Barber decides to retire, Claiborne's ball skills and closing speed could allow him to flourish in Tampa's system.

15. San Diego Chargers
Dre Kirkpatrick, CB, Alabama: The Chargers need more talent at cornerback to prevent the big plays they've given up the past couple of weeks.

16. Tennessee Titans
Quinton Coples, DE, North Carolina: In recent drafts, top-rated 4-3 defensive ends have fallen into the middle of the first round, like when the Titans picked Derrick Morgan two years ago. Coples is actually a better fit for their defense, which may need another end with Jason Jones, Dave Ball, and William Hayes all potential free agents.

17. Buffalo Bills
Mike Adams, OT, Ohio State: Signing quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick to a contract extension makes re-signing left tackle Demetrius Bell or finding his replacement in free agency/the draft a major priority.

18. NY Jets
David DeCastro, OG, Stanford: The Jets could move up to get DeCastro if they don't believe he'll be available here, as his ability to block on the move is very reminiscent of former Jets Pro Bowl guard Alan Faneca.

19. Cleveland Browns (from Atlanta)
Whitney Mercilus, DE, Illinois: Mercilus could help the Browns increase their sack total and contain the edge to funnel run play to the team's linebackers. He complements last year's second-round pick, Jabaal Sheard, very well.

20. Dallas Cowboys
Luke Kuechly, ILB, Boston College: The ultra-productive Kuechly could replace either of the team's free agent linebackers, Keith Brooking and Bradie James, to combine with Sean Lee to give the Cowboys a very instinctive duo inside.

21. Cincinnati Bengals
Devon Still, DT, Penn State: Adding girth and athleticism in the middle tightens up the run defense and flushes opposing quarterbacks into the arms of Cincinnati's outside rushers.

22. Detroit Lions
Manti Te'o, ILB, Notre Dame: The Lions' leading tackler, DeAndre Levy, may hit the free agent market after the season.

23. Cincinnati Bengals (from Oakland)
Alfonzo Dennard, CB, Nebraska: Free agency could decimate the team's depth at corner, and Dennard's toughness and knack for knocking away passes should overcome his average size to keep him in the first round.

24. Chicago Bears
Cordy Glenn, OG, Georgia: Even if the Bears like what they've seen from J'marcus Webb at left tackle, Glenn could play inside to bolster Jay Cutler's protection and make room for Matt Forte (assuming they sign him to the large contract everyone expects).

25. Houston Texans
Peter Konz, C, Wisconsin: The nation's top center suffered an ankle injury during Wisconsin's win over Minnesota on November 12, but he is expected to be back for the Big Ten Championship Game if the Badgers are participating.

26. NY Giants
Brandon Thompson, DT, Clemson: The Giants stopped San Francisco from running the ball effectively, but have generally given up a lot of plays on the ground so finding some strength in the middle could shore up that part of the defense.

27. New England Patriots
Dont'a Hightower, ILB, Alabama: Owner Bob Kraft was on the sideline for LSU-Alabama, and the Nick Saban-Bill Belichick connection seems likely to result in at least one of the Tide's talented defenders to help bolster a non-existent pass rush.

28. New England Patriots (from New Orleans)
Chase Minnifield, CB, Virginia: The Patriots are constantly looking to improve the depth of their secondary, so the son of former NFL Pro Bowl cornerback Frank Minnifield -- who was coached by Belichick for two years in Cleveland.

29. Baltimore Ravens
Courtney Upshaw, OLB, Alabama: Upshaw's versatility should allow him to excel inside or outside in the Ravens' scheme.

30. San Francisco 49ers
Nick Toon, WR, Wisconsin: Josh Morgan, Ted Ginn and Braylon Edwards are scheduled to be free agents after the season -- the team will need playmakers at the position.

31. Pittsburgh Steelers
Kelechi Osemele, OG, Iowa State: The Steelers seem to have trouble keeping their offensive lineman healthy, and love wide tackles with great length and toughness; Osemele has all of the above.

32. Green Bay Packers
Dontari Poe, DT, Memphis: Poe has the size and athleticism to play any spot along the Packers' three-man line. web page

By Rob Rang
Tell Rob your opinion! Senior Analyst - NFLDraftScout.com
The surprising success of rookie quarterbacks Cam Newton and Andy Dalton will only encourage NFL teams to eschew other needs and make quarterback the ultimate draft priority.

This fact could pay off for teams "lucky" enough to be in competition for the right to select Stanford's Andrew Luck, Southern Cal's Matt Barkley or Oklahoma's Landry Jones.

Other than the top quarterbacks, the 2012 draft does not appear to be an especially elite. The elite defensive linemen that have characterized each of the past few drafts are gone. On the other hand, assuming a few noteworthy underclassmen leave early as expected, this could wind up being a strong draft for offensive tackles, wide receivers and cornerbacks.

No mock draft written this far in advance is going to be 100% accurate. After all, the easy part-- the draft order -- is even far from being finalized. So, take this mock draft for what it is -- a preview of what may happen in April so that you can focus on the players your favorite pro team may already be scouting.
NFL Mock Draft - 11/17/2011

Round 1
1. Indianapolis Colts
Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford: Some have made the argument that the fact that the Colts are winless without Peyton Manning and viewed as a Super Bowl contender with him only reinforces his brilliance. While the argument might have merit, it doesn't change the fact that Manning will be 36 next season and coming off several neck surgeries. Bill Polian won't allow loyalty to Manning to keep him from doing what is best for the Colts moving forward -- and what's best is drafting Luck first and deciding what to do with his two franchise quarterbacks later.

2. Miami Dolphins
Matt Barkley, QB, Southern California: The surprising victory in Arrowhead Stadium over the Chiefs only proved what has been obvious to anyone paying attention to the Dolphins (all four of us) this season - that this is a pretty talented team that simply hasn't figured out yet how to win. Some would argue that is the skill that makes Barkley an elite prospect.

3. St. Louis Rams
Justin Blackmon, WR, Oklahoma State: The Rams invested heavily this past season in wide receivers to develop with young star quarterback Sam Bradford. If Billy Delaney is once again picking in the top five, however, that plan hasn't worked. As such, it would be tough to pass on the playmaking Blackmon.

4. Carolina Panthers
Quinton Coples, DE, North Carolina: Fielding one of the league's most porous run defenses, the Panthers could elect to stay close to home and draft Coples to help fill the gaps. Primarily playing defensive end this season for the Tar Heels, Coples has been unable to take advantage of the momentum he'd made last season while playing inside. In the NFL, he'll likely be asked to move back inside.

5. Minnesota Vikings
Morris Claiborne, CB, LSU: Prior to his arrest for domestic assault, former second-round pick Chris Cook had been playing well for the Vikings. With his situation up in the air and depth behind him a concern, Minnesota would be wise to look at replacement options. Claiborne has been the most impressive corner in the country in 2011 and is quickly rising up draft boards.

6. Washington Redskins
Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama: The Redskins would love to see Luck or Barkley still on the board, as both possess the mobility and accuracy to be very successful in the Shanahan's offense. Richardson, arguably the best player in the draft not named Luck, is a heckuva consolation prize.

7. Cleveland Browns
Matt Kalil, OT, Southern California: The Browns are set at left tackle with Joe Thomas, but have struggled to get consistent play from veterans Tony Pashos and Oniel Cousins on the right side. Kalil is gaining a reputation for lax technique, but that is only because he's able to dominate at the collegiate level due to his natural ability.

8. Jacksonville Jaguars
Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame: The Jaguars need help at wide receiver. Bringing back Mike Sims-Walker (before placing him on Injured Reserve) only reinforced this fact. Floyd is being rated by some scouts as the elite senior prospect in the country. He'd give 2011 first round pick Blaine Gabbert a needed weapon.

9. Seattle Seahawks
Devon Still, DT, Penn State: Still has been as dominant as any defensive lineman in the country, but the inconsistency and durability concerns that haunted his early career could limit how high he will rise on draft day. Big, strong and capable of playing either defensive tackle position or backing up Red Bryant at left defensive end, Still would make sense if the top quarterbacks are off the board

10. Philadelphia Eagles
Zach Brown, OLB, North Carolina: The Eagles' much-maligned linebacking corps could use an infusion of athleticism and playmaking skills. I'm not as high on Brown as some seem to be, but there is no denying that he possesses a great deal of upside.

11. Arizona Cardinals
Riley Reiff, OT, Iowa: Kevin Kolb has been a disappointment in his first season as the Cardinals' starting quarterback, but the team isn't likely to panic after just one year. Rather, the team would be wise to protect him with better blindside protection. Reiff, a left tackle for Iowa, has the size, technique and physicality to contribute early.

12. Kansas City Chiefs
Jonathan Martin, OT, Stanford: With injuries robbing Kansas City of three of their best players (Eric Berry, Jamaal Charles, Tony Moeaki) early this season, the team has struggled to play with any consistency. How these players appear to be proceeding in their rehabilitation may go a long way in determining what direction GM Scott Pioli will look with his 2012 first round pick. As it stands now, Martin would make a great deal of sense as he'll provide aid to an average offensive line and is the best player available.

13. Denver Broncos
Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma: Should the Broncos continue to win with Tim Tebow they could elect to spend this pick differently. If picking in the top half of the draft, however, John Elway and John Fox aren't likely to pass on a quarterback with Jones' natural passing talents.

14. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Dre Kirkpatrick, CB, Alabama: Only four teams are allowing more passing yards per game than the Buccaneers (263 yards). Kirkpatrick's inconsistent technique worries some scouts, but his size, athleticism and physicality could eventually make him the best cornerback to come out of this draft. At this point in the draft, he'd be a steal.

15. San Diego Chargers
Orson Charles, TE, Georgia: Newsflash - the Chargers feature arguably the league's elite tight end in Antonio Gates. Gates' inability to remain healthy, however, too often puts San Diego in a precarious position. While smaller than most teams prefer, the 6-3, 245-pound Charles is a matchup nightmare with surprising prowess as a blocker.

16. Tennessee Titans
Dwayne Allen, TE, Clemson: The Titans feature one of the NFL's best athletic talents in tight end Jared Cook, but injuries and inconsistency haven't allowed the former South Carolina standout to become the star Tennessee expected. With young receivers stepping up and their quarterback of the future already secured in Jake Locker, the club might be interested in adding another threat down the seam to aid in the offense's transition. Allen (6-4, 255) is viewed by some scouts to be the most complete tight end in the country.

17. Buffalo Bills
Manti Te'o, ILB, Notre Dame: The surprising play of Buffalo's offense has helped hide what remains one of the league's leakiest run defenses. Last season Buffalo finished dead last and this year they've been only slightly better. The physical and instinctive Te'o could help remedy that.

18. NY Jets
David DeCastro, OG, Stanford: The Jets have been one of the league's better running teams since Rex Ryan took over, but they are struggling so far this season. DeCastro doesn't have much name recognition yet, but is viewed by some as the elite interior offensive lineman in the country.

19. Cleveland Browns (from Atlanta)
Alfonzo Dennard, CB, Nebraska: The Browns feature one of the league's better young cover corners in Joe Haden, but have been inconsistent, at best, on the other side. Dennard lacks the height scouts prefer, but is a physical press corner who could provide the Browns' with an athlete equally capable of providing lockdown coverage as Haden.

20. Dallas Cowboys
Jerel Worthy, DT, Michigan State: The Cowboys' defense has made gains under Rob Ryan, but inconsistencies up front have led to plenty of breakdowns in coverage on the back end. With longer arms than most 6-3, 305-pounders, Worthy could contribute at end or nose guard in Dallas' 3-4 alignment.

21. Cincinnati Bengals
Cordy Glenn, OG, Georgia: The Bengals have their young quarterback and boast talent along their offensive line, especially at tackle. Glenn's size and power makes a lot of sense in Cincinnati's downhill running attack.

22. Detroit Lions
Janoris Jenkins, CB, North Alabama: With all of the focus on Ndamukong Suh and the Lions' talented defensive line (not to mention Calvin Johnson and Detroit's explosive offense), not enough credit for the team's turnaround has gone to the improved play of their secondary. Rivals, however, think that Detroit is doing it with smoke and mirrors and will almost surely look to address the secondary in the draft. Jenkins has top 20 talent, but his off-field problems could cause him to slip. The Lions were lauded for snatching up Nick Fairley when he dropped last year and could get better immediate dividends from the playmaking Jenkins.

23. Cincinnati Bengals (from Oakland)
Lamar Miller, RB, Miami (Fla.): If there is a running back in the country capable of leaping into the first round to join Alabama's Trent Richardson, it is likely this redshirt sophomore. Possessing big-play speed to go with his 5-11, 212-pound frame, Miller could prove to be a difference-maker and insurance for the Bengals behind the bruising Cedric Benson.

24. Chicago Bears
Mark Barron, SS, Alabama: The Bears have shuffled through several veterans at safety this season and surprisingly enough are getting the most consistent play out of rookie Chris Conte, a third-round pick out of California. Conte's range makes him a natural free safety. Barron, more of a downhill thumper, would be a solid complement in Chicago.

25. Houston Texans
Dontari Poe, DT, Memphis: The Texans have emerged as one of the NFL's best teams, but run defense remains a concern without a dominant nose guard. Poe, at 6-5 and 350 pounds, possesses a rare combination of size, strength and athleticism and would surely intrigue the Texans and any other teams in search of a nose guard, should he leave Memphis early

26. NY Giants
Luke Kuechly, ILB, Boston College: Giants' head coach Tom Coughlin, who served as the head coach at Boston College from 1991-1993, has hit big with former Eagles Mathias Kiwanuka, Chris Snee and Mark Herzlich. It isn't difficult to imagine Kuechly continuing the BC pipeline.

27. New England Patriots
Courtney Upshaw, OLB, Alabama: One of the real surprises of the 2011 draft was that the Patriots elected not to add bodies to a front seven sorely in need of reinforcements. With yet another two first-round picks this year, don't expect Bill Belichick to ignore the needs again. Upshaw lines up at defensive end much of the time for Nick Saban, but has proven the ability to drop into coverage, making him a potentially perfect fit in Belichick's varied fronts.

28. New England Patriots (from New Orleans)
Kendall Wright, WR, Baylor: Considering the dominant play of slot receiver Wes Welker and the Patriots' fearsome two-headed monster at tight end in Rob Gronkowski and Aaron Hernandez, it might seem unlikely that the Patriots would look to add more weapons for Tom Brady. All Bill Belichick knows to do, however, is attack. Wright lacks name recognition, but is an elusive speedster who is quickly moving up draft boards.

29. Baltimore Ravens
Kelechi Osemele, OG, Iowa State: The Ravens boast one of the better all-around offensive lines in the NFL and are especially strong inside at guard where I ultimately project Osemele to play. Arguably the Ravens' best blocker is left guard Ben Grubbs, who is scheduled for free agency after this season. With a team as talented as Baltimore, the first round isn't so much about finding new stars as it is reloading for the inevitability of losing some to free agency.

30. San Francisco 49ers
Mohamed Sanu, WR, Rutgers: The injury to Josh Morgan and relative disappointment that Michael Crabtree has been since being the 49ers' 2009 first round pick makes wide receiver an area of concern. A prototypical receiver for the West Coast system, Sanu's size, physicality and toughness make up for a lack of elite speed.

31. Pittsburgh Steelers
Mike Adams, OT, Ohio State: The Steelers seemingly patch up their offensive line annually, only to struggle with injuries and consistency up front. Adams (6-6, 320) has the monstrous frame that Pittsburgh has traditionally preferred up front and would reunite the Buckeye left tackle with his old practice partner - Steelers' 2011 first round pick DE Cameron Heyward.

32. Green Bay Packers
Billy Winn, DE, Boise State: General manager Ted Thompson loves to use high-round picks to fortify his lines. Winn doesn't get a great deal of recognition due to the fact that he plays for Boise State, but the versatile defensive lineman certainly would make sense for a Packers' team on the lookout for size, strength and youth up front. web page

I would pissed if that transpired. I want DeCastro and hate the thought of taking a RB in the first round (yes even if its AP).

i'd be mad we passed up claiborne even though i know we need to focus on offense more.

Don Banks talks about the QB carousel for this upcoming offseason. I am just putting the relevant portions here.

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Is Green Bay Backup Matt Flynn The Wild-Card Factor?
The draft is never the only source of starting quarterback options, of course. Next year's Kevin Kolb might well be Packers backup Matt Flynn, the fourth-year former LSU starter who was a seventh-round pick in 2008. Flynn played fairly well in a two-game relief stint of the injured Aaron Rodgers late last year, just before the start of the playoffs, and he now has the imprint of the Packers' Super Bowl success attached to his name.

Dilfer makes a compelling case for how some teams in the market for a new starting option might find Flynn their most attractive candidate.

"The big wrench in the whole quarterback market could be Matt Flynn,'' Dilfer said. "What happens when a superstar quarterback like Aaron Rodgers has a signature year with a signature coaching staff, and all the offensive coaches on that team then start finally getting their due? In that situation, the backup quarterback sometimes all of a sudden becomes a prized commodity. Especially when Aaron, one of his best friends, starts telling everybody, 'This dude can play. He's just like me when I was a backup for Brett Favre. He does all the same things I did when I was a backup.'

"He's kind of like an Aaron Rodgers clone the same way Rodgers looked a little like a Favre clone, and the way Matt Hasselbeck in Green Bay looked like a Favre clone. His value is going to be off the charts for some teams. They may not evaluate all the college quarterbacks and say, 'Okay, what's the easy fix? Matt Flynn, let's go get him. Because we'll coach him just like he was coached in Green Bay.' They may or may not do that, but he'll be a player in this thing, in this market.''

Two scenarios that sound plausible in terms of Flynn are Cleveland and Miami. Browns football czar Mike Holmgren may not think he has the time or inclination to go the rookie quarterback development route again, and that's where Flynn's experience level becomes more attractive. Even as strong competition for McCoy, Flynn might fit well in Cleveland.

As for the Dolphins, perhaps they win their way out of the draft position to land Barkley or Jones, and Flynn becomes their fallback plan. If Miami fires head coach Tony Sparano as expected, someone off Mike McCarthy's staff in Green Bay could get interviewed, given that the Packers' program is the current NFL gold standard. Maybe quarterbacks coach Tom Clements or offensive coordinator Joe Philbin is the next Dolphins head coach, and Flynn becomes a viable starting alternative in Miami. That's the way the NFL often works.

Who Else Might Be Facing A Quarterback Question?
Reading the current tea leaves, here's how we see the rest of the quarterback issues around the league, besides those teams we've already mentioned:

• Cleveland -- The Browns don't seem convinced Colt McCoy is their long-term answer at the position, but it's also not likely Holmgren would go shopping in the first round for another quarterback. Holmgren is a big believer in the idea that you can find QB talent in the second or third round, without paying a first-round premium at the position.

How McCoy ends his second season in Cleveland could play a significant factor in the Browns' plans, but if the above-mentioned pursuit of Flynn doesn't materialize, the most likely scenario would be for Holmgren to zero in on the second tier of prospects, such as Cousins, Griffin, Tannehill or Lindley.


Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/don_banks/11/17/qb.questions/index.html#ixzz1e09oNPNv

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the more I think about it, the more that Griffin seems like he fits the recent Holmgren QB model. Accurate, athletic, and not necessarily a strong arm. He'd fit right in with Seneca and Colt (not sure that is a good thing or not though).

RG3 is fun to watch at Baylor..

I want NOTHING to do with him in the NFL...

I have been saying for awhile that the Matt Flynn option just seems like the most likely scenario. I haven't seen a lot of Flynn since his college days, but I have liked what I have seen. Pretty good arm, tight spiral and improved accuracy. Guess the biggest difference is the confidence he appears to have in his own ability to make the smart decision and the accurate throw.

I love this QB draft class but if we can get a really good QB without the high draft pick then I am all for it.

I love Hillis but I can't trust that Hammy. Hardesty, just doesn't have it anymore, to many injuries and he has lost his vision. We need a RB with good vision to fit this offense. Hey lets see what Armond can do. When the draft rolls around there is no doubts as to where we stand at RB.

Receiver, H&H does not like 1st round receivers. there will be some good ones in this years draft in the 2nd.

LB is the most underrated position in this draft. Not a lot of love but man there is some mad talent here. *I think Lewis from Oklahoma could be this years Aldon Smith*. 4 rounds of linebackers so we should find a good one since we will probably be looking for a smaller LB that can tackle and Cover. Again Danny Trevathon from Ky is gonna get a long look from this staff. barring injury he will have led the SEC in tackles the last 2 years and is probably a 3rd round linebacker.

Arguably the teams biggest need is Pass rushing RDE. Outside of the kid from Marshall, I really havent seen a pass rusher that stands out for me. Is Osi a FA?

Corner class is loaded but for as much flack as Sheldon Brown gets we still may not take a corner in the first 3 rounds.

Great class for RTs. You can get a starter anywhere in the first 3 or 4 rounds.

What do people think about Ryan Tannehill in the 2nd? He seems to fit the WCO mold pretty well.

I don't REALLY want to spend a 2nd round pick on ANOTHER project QB...

I like Tannehill, He's got the size, arms good, runs the systems, but he hasn't been playing QB that long. It's iffy.

I'm all for Luck or Barkley, Jones I'm kind of iffy on due to the system he runs (can he transition to the NFL?)

I'm to the point that I don't even know what I would do, what the Browns will or should do...

I just want it to happen already...So I can finally form some sort of opinion...on something...

here's my thoughts on Tannehill

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just say no to Tannehill.

most recent outing he had Gray running rampant on K-State and still could only manage a 4.6YPA. that is against a college defense that was soley worrying about stopping Gray (and failling as he had a 7.3YPC).

Tannehill recent stats. The last number is the YPC of A&M in that game.

Iowa State 24/43 263yds 2TDs 0Int 6.11YPA (5.3YPC - in large part to Tannehill's sacks. Michael 7.9YPC / Gray 6.0YPC)
Mizzou 35/53 317yds 3TDs 1Int 5.98YPA (4.0YPC)
Oklahoma 32/63 379yds 2TDs 3Ints 6.0YPA (5.1YPC)
KState 27/46 210yds 3TDs 1Int 4.6YPA (6.3YPC)

Yes, he shredded SMU, Idaho, and Baylor. But, outside of the above he also struggled against OkieState and Arkansas. He was a non-factor in the TxTech game (not good or bad).

All of this coming with one of the nations best team running games.

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What do people think about Ryan Tannehill in the 2nd? He seems to fit the WCO mold pretty well.

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I think he is a top 10 talent. Most around here don't think he will be drafted but its mostly the same people that were saying Cam Newton sucks.

What makes you say H&H don't like first round receivers?

If I'm not mistaken, they've both taken WRs in the first.

Its the old Bill Walsh Philosophy of "never draft a receiver in the first, unless all other positions are filled"

I want Justin Blackmon, and I could care less about what are other positions look like if he's there when we pick

(Assuming a QB isn't there of course )

I feel that the team should draft Floyd and Richardson with our first 2 picks if we don't see a QB that we're comfortable with.