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What I don't get from this whole debate is the "just like Sean Rogers and his agent played the browns with fake injuries"
Yeah, they played us so well that they picked up a 1 year $4 million contract when it was all over.
Good point. I'm surprised we don't have more guys faking injuries for that kind of a jackpot! 
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I have had a pulled hammy and "I played with it".
In Public? You played with it in PUBLIC? 
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Dave...wrong...I have had a pulled hammy and "I played with it".
It comes down to the players desire, whether they play with a regular occurring injuries or take advantage a situation such as Hillis is doing.
Had you given any thought to the severaty of the injury?
I have no idea why you guys don't get it, HE IS INJURED... What's so hard to understand?
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I was worried about him when it was announced he was working out in the off-season back in Arkansas with his buddies. Something tells me he was not really in football shape and we were on borrowed time with him and an injury.
Where should he have been working out?
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your fathead will continue to hang in my man-cave
Please never say this again. 
So making a joke about me having a 6'5" fathead of the guy on my wall in my mancave is somehow off limits?
you missed the joke, Tubbs.
Please re-read your quote... then let you mind go straight to the gutter (where mine seems to be quite often)....
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Anyone who thinks Hillis is faking because of a long rehab has never had a pulled hamstring. I have and it took a long time to heal.
Dave...wrong...I have had a pulled hammy and "I played with it".
I'm 99% tempted to call bull right here. I've pulled my hamstring twice. Each time - when it happened, in full stride I went down like a guy that got tasered. Each time I could put my fist on my hamstring, and the muscle from my hamstring - the knot - was bigger than my fist. Yes, the knot sticking out from my leg was bigger than my fist. Suffice it to say, I didn't "play with it" like that.
I've also gotten a cramp in my hamstring on several occasions. Once that is straightened out, and you're re hydrated.....you can play.
When my hamstring was pulled? My butt wasn't playing anymore for weeks. Walking was tough. And yes, I know I wasn't receiving pro player medical care - but you don't just play through a pulled hammy. Sorry. Not at a level that is conducive to helping your team - unless your team is the kindergarten class.
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It comes down to the players desire, whether they play with a regular occurring injuries or take advantage a situation such as Hillis is doing.
On some injuries, it does come down to a players pain tolerance. Not on pulled hammys - not at the nfl level - not at the college level - not even at the h.s. level.
There's pain - and there's injury. Pain is something you can - some can - play through. Injury? Only stupid people try to play through injury.
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I was worried about him when it was announced he was working out in the off-season back in Arkansas with his buddies. Something tells me he was not really in football shape and we were on borrowed time with him and an injury.
Where should he have been working out?
Oh, I don't know. Seeing as how he was heading into a contract year, and possibly the final contract of his career I would have expected him to spend time at one of the pro-sports facilities/spas that cater to that crowd. He didn't invest very much in himself during the off-season.
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One thing people fail to recognize is how easy it is to re-injure a hamstring by coming back too soon. Running track for 8 years through high school and college, I can't count the number of times a teammate has come back too soon from a pulled hammy and got hurt again.
This is not an injury you rush back from unless you are for sure 100%. See Andre Johnson.
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I was worried about him when it was announced he was working out in the off-season back in Arkansas with his buddies. Something tells me he was not really in football shape and we were on borrowed time with him and an injury.
Where should he have been working out?
Oh, I don't know. Seeing as how he was heading into a contract year, and possibly the final contract of his career I would have expected him to spend time at one of the pro-sports facilities/spas that cater to that crowd. He didn't invest very much in himself during the off-season.
the Guy was PULLING TRUCKS THROUGH NEIGHBORHOODS.
I doubt they have that machien at the Y.
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Please never say this again.
So making a joke about me having a 6'5" fathead of the guy on my wall in my mancave is somehow off limits?
you missed the joke, Tubbs.
Please re-read your quote... then let you mind go straight to the gutter (where mine seems to be quite often)....
...you'll get it, I'm sure.
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Mac, I want to see him play. Please. But I find it really odd, this declaring him out for the week immediately, so I have some doubts. I am slobbering over a backfield with him and Oggy in the backfield at the same time!
I suspect that there is nothing like a 100+ yard rusher to speed the healing process (and it isn't good for an agent who may play fast and loose with negotiating). I think there is more behind the scenes, but it is just a hunch.
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This is not an injury you rush back from unless you are for sure 100%. See Andre Johnson.
Or, see Hillis, who tried rushing it back and just ended up re-aggrevating it.
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This is not an injury you rush back from unless you are for sure 100%. See Andre Johnson.
Or, see Hillis, who tried rushing it back and just ended up re-aggrevating it.
That was his point.
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Hillis is faking it LMAO GMAFB are you trying out for Mel Gibso's roll in Conspiracy Theory II 
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I was worried about him when it was announced he was working out in the off-season back in Arkansas with his buddies. Something tells me he was not really in football shape and we were on borrowed time with him and an injury.
Where should he have been working out?
Oh, I don't know. Seeing as how he was heading into a contract year, and possibly the final contract of his career I would have expected him to spend time at one of the pro-sports facilities/spas that cater to that crowd. He didn't invest very much in himself during the off-season.
the Guy was PULLING TRUCKS THROUGH NEIGHBORHOODS.
I doubt they have that machien at the Y.
And how did that work out for him this year? He's got gas in the tank but he needs to step up his conditioning.
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I called bull when he said people played with strep throat.
Played what...? Checkers? Tiddlywinks? Because they definitely weren't playing any contact sports or other strenuous activity. We had a bunch of guys last year (or the year before) missed a game because of a bad flu spreading through the locker room. Nobody questioned their toughness then (and one of them was Ironman Mack).
And people are comparing the Hillis strep to Mack's appendectomy. That's stupid. You really think if Mack knew his appendix was in such bad shape he would have gone out there and played? The doc looked at him, and either missed something big or the symptoms weren't there. Hillis had strep, it was obvious, so the doc told him so.
I don't get the whole conspiracy theory.
And another thing. You don't fake an injury to get a bigger payday. That's moronic. That would be like me faking that I don't know how to use my computer to get a raise out of my boss.
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I'm surprised mac hasn't blamed Bush for Hillis sitting out.
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I'm surprised mac hasn't blamed Bush for Hillis sitting out.
C'mon, he's from Arkansas not Texas.
It's all Hillary's fault.
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The Browns' Montario Hardesty can prove he's the starting running back for the present and future in the final six games of this season.
Hardesty, who is expected to start Sunday against Cincinnati if he's healthy, has the most challenging finish of any NFL running back. He'll face a top-6 run defense in five of the last six games in 2011: Cincinnati (No. 3 run defense), Baltimore twice (No. 5) and Pittsburgh twice (No. 6). The only break comes against Arizona, which ranks 24th against the run.
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Montario Hardesty has been hampered by injuries during his collegiate and NFL careers.
“It’s going to be exciting,” said Hardesty, who hasn't played since injuring his calf at San Francisco on Oct. 30. “I think it’s going to be fun how the finish is set up. We’re on to the AFC North. We’ve got a lot of good defenses. This is a great time to come back and try to help our team because when the weather gets cold, you’ve got to have a good, solid ground game. All the defenses in our conference want to stop the run and everyone wants to run it.”
It's assumed that the Browns will part ways at the end of the season with Peyton Hillis, who will become an unrestricted free agent after a season filled with more drama than rushing yards. Cleveland undoubtedly will use the last part of the season to see whether Hardesty can be that feature back.
Hardesty will have to run hard to get yards against Cincinnati. The Bengals have allowed 886 rushing yards, the fewest in the AFC.
But the Cleveland offensive line is coming off one of its best efforts, which resulted in Chris Ogbonnaya's 115-yard rushing performance against Jacksonville.
“Last week, our O-line had the best game that they’ve had,” Hardesty said. “Those guys looked great. The wide receivers have really been flying around on those run blocks and going through the phases. I think our offense as a whole is coming along. We’re going to be getting more confidence with what we’re doing, everybody being more comfortable in their roles in the offense. I’m excited to get back in and help that out.”
Hardesty was a second-round pick in 2010 and the seventh running back selected after C.J. Spiller, Ryan Mathews, Jahvid Best, Toby Gerhart, Dexter McCluster and Ben Tate.
There's no disputing that he has talent. Hardesty was the SEC's second-leading rusher in 2009. His biggest challenge has been staying healthy.
The Browns should have a good understanding of Hardesty's future role after these final games.
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Looking back at that running back class, man, what a bunch of duds. The hit rate there is just flat bad.
As for the premise of the article, yeah, it's make-or-break for Hardesty. If he comes up lame at all, he becomes a role-player at best, a waiver guy at worst. I certainly don't have any confidence that he can become a feature back. That injury history is just to prevalent. It'd be nice if it happened, but it'd be nice if we won all our games and sneaked into the playoffs as well.
As for Hillis, I've become ambivalent. He was badly over-rated by Browns fans who have been starved for any kind of star-power at all. If he were on another team, it would be pointed out in much greater frequency that he led the league in fumbles with 9, which is Cleveland Gary bad (for those that don't remember Cleveland Gary, he was a guy whose phenomenal talent was matched only by his monumental failures as a fumbler). Hillis also faltered down the stretch due to wear-and-tear, and injuries have given us zilch this year, nevermind all the idiotic behavior and subsequent drama. Frankly, I'm much more inclined to put him on IR and be done with him so that we have the freedom to see once and for all if Hardesty can hold up to the punishment. I think Hillis has burned too many bridges to return. The body language and lack of talk from the FO sure makes that appear to be so.
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At this point, what difference does it make if Hillis plays or not. First, the FO/coach changed from a power running format to a single back/ pick your hole format. Our offensive line cannot move people to create holes, so if your are not quick and with great vision, your not doing much.
Hillis is not going to get the money he is looking for from the Browns, so he will not even be around next year! Hardesty, is just one hit from being out of football. If he stays healthy for the remaining games, that would be a miracle!!!
Hell, our brilliant FO/Coach cannot even figure out how to use Armond Smith. One of the fastest players in the NFL is on our practice squad because our FO/Coach does not understand how to use him...
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Ahmad Bradshaw and Cedric Benson also had rough years last year holding on to the ball.
Kinda hard to judge that based on one year. Is it a trend, or a 1st time (full time) starter having to learn to adjust to the NFL? He handled the ball a lot last year, with a total of 331 touches. In Denver he had 101 touches with 1 fumble. I'm not going to say that it's not a major concern, but I'm also not going to bury the guy for 1 year either. He had 3 of his fumbles last year in Buffalo. That was ugly weather, but you need your heavy duty back to hold onto the ball in that kinda weather.
I would hate to lose Hillis, because he is a talented guy, both running and catching the ball. I do think that he had too much time on the field last year because our backups sucked. I think that our RB corps is stronger with Hillis than without ...... but in the end, that's gonna come down to dollars.
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so, what you're say is, there's a chance? (gratuitous Dumb and Dumber) Updated 1:52 p.m. with details, quotes. BEREA -- Browns running back Peyton Hillis participated in team drills today and expects to play Sunday in Cincinnati. Ccoach Pat Shurmur said he is a game-time decision. "I'm excited I feel 100% again,'' he said. "It's looking very positive for this game.'' Hillis took plenty of reps in practice today and is on pace to play Sunday. "We're all shooting for this Sunday,'' he said. "I'm working my best to get out there, and I'm looking forward to the opportunity. I'm eager and excited about it." On Monday, Shurmur had ruled Hillis out for Sunday's game, but Hillis made such strong progress Thursday and today that he's expected to play. Running back Montario Hardesty is expected to start and share the running load with Hillis and Chris Ogbonnaya. Shurmur said that when all three are healthy, Hillis will start, Hardesty will be No. 2 and Ogbonnaya No. 3. In other Browns news: * Right tackle Tony Pashos was absent from practice today, and Artis Hicks started in his place. Pashos' wife is due with their first baby on Tuesday, but it's not yet known if that's why he's missing. * Defensive end Jayme Mitchell, who sat out Thursday with an ankle injury, stood and watched duriing the 15 open minutes. *Safety Usama Young did not participate in drills during the open portion and was replaced by rookie Eric Hagg. * Defensive lineman Brian Schaefering, who sat out Thursday with an ankle injury, was back in drills today. Linky
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Updated 1:52 p.m. with details, quotes.
BEREA -- Browns running back Peyton Hillis participated in team drills today and expects to play Sunday in Cincinnati.
Ccoach Pat Shurmur said he is a game-time decision.
"I'm excited I feel 100% again,'' he said. "It's looking very positive for this game.''
Hillis took plenty of reps in practice today and is on pace to play Sunday.
"We're all shooting for this Sunday,'' he said. "I'm working my best to get out there, and I'm looking forward to the opportunity. I'm eager and excited about it."
On Monday, Shurmur had ruled Hillis out for Sunday's game, but Hillis made such strong progress Thursday and today that he's expected to play.
Running back Montario Hardesty is expected to start and share the running load with Hillis and Chris Ogbonnaya. Shurmur said that when all three are healthy, Hillis will start, Hardesty will be No. 2 and Ogbonnaya No. 3.
In other Browns news:
* Right tackle Tony Pashos was absent from practice today, and Artis Hicks started in his place. Pashos' wife is due with their first baby on Tuesday, but it's not yet known if that's why he's missing.
* Defensive end Jayme Mitchell, who sat out Thursday with an ankle injury, stood and watched duriing the 15 open minutes.
*Safety Usama Young did not participate in drills during the open portion and was replaced by rookie Eric Hagg.
* Defensive lineman Brian Schaefering, who sat out Thursday with an ankle injury, was back in drills today.
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I think he realized with the game Obi had that he is replaceable after all. I really think its sorta odd that suddenly he is healed and 100% the week after our 3rd string rb put up on hell of a game.With Hardesty coming back and being named the starter, and Obi playing good I think Peyton saw his window closing. And realized to quit milking the hammy "injury", and get his butt back on the field
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I'm not going to say I think that's what he's doing, because money has been his driving force since day one. The three agents is all the proof we need. However, because of all the crap he's pulled, that sure does make the timing of his sudden recovery look fishy, and Hillis only has himself to blame for that. Lesson learned? These tigers don't always change their stripes.
I wish his triple-scoop serving of humble pie would make him into a different person so we can have his services in the future, but I wouldn't risk any money on it....
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Was watching the Berea Report with Donavan and Coach Sam, and the coach said the thing that would get Hardesty and Hillis both healthy was Obi running for 100+.
I have liked Hillis, and have given him the benefit of the doubt, but I am really starting to think he is dogging it. I get a feeling he was trying the old, see how bad they miss me, ploy. Seems that backfired. I'll give Hardesty a little more credit, as I feel his was more a coaching decision.
I am so let down with Hillis. I try hard not to believe that he is playing the injury up, but this was a guy who played with broken ribs last year. It has to be about money.
I hope he plays and plays hard, but I also hope Obi is not throw to the side. IMO he is the 3rd down back we have been looking for. Hardesty, I just have no faith in.
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Browns' HIllis could play against Bengals
By TOM WITHERS, Associated Press
Saturday, November 26, 2011
BEREA, Ohio — Peyton Hillis walked out of the Browns' locker room Friday carrying a playbook under his right arm. On Sunday, he hopes he's carrying a football.
At long last.
Cleveland's besieged running back, who has missed the past six games with a severely strained left hamstring, could return to the field this week when the Browns (4-6) visit the Cincinnati Bengals (6-4). It's a surprising development considering Browns coach Pat Shurmur ruled him out when the week began and Hillis did not practice Wednesday or Thursday.
But Hillis has made major progress in the past few days, and is on the brink of a long-awaited, and perhaps dramatic, return.
"I miss playing football," he said. "It's what I was brought up my whole life to do. I'm excited to get out there playing a game. I'm excited about winning games. I'm excited to see how I can play during this time. I'm excited I feel 100 percent again."
Hillis, whose fall from stardom has been as abrupt as his rise, is ready to resume his stormy season.
"I've just got to find a way to overcome all of this and be the player I used to be," he said.
Hillis practiced Friday for the first time since Nov. 4, when he re-injured his hamstring two days before a game in Houston. During the portion of practice open to the media, Hillis appeared to be fully healed. He carried the ball a few times, and near the end of the workout, Hillis caught a short pass and turned up field with a burst of speed.
Shurmur said it would be a game-time decision whether Hillis plays.
"Because he hasn't played ball in a long time, I think it's still important that I'm cautious with his return," Shurmur said.
In addition to possibly having Hillis back, the Browns will have running back Montario Hardesty, who has missed the past three games with a calf injury. With Hillis and Hardesty sidelined, Chris Ogbonnaya rushed for 115 yards last week in a win over Jacksonville.
Shurmur wouldn't be pinned down on who would start.
"If Hillis is available, he will be available because he's ready to play," he said. "Now, whether he'll start or not I'll have to decide that on Sunday. We have running backs coming back from injury so none of them can handle a full load and I think that's an important thing to remember."
It figures Hillis' return would be a spectacle. His second season in Cleveland has been nothing short of a sideshow since it began.
Hillis squabbled publicly with the Browns over a possible contract extension before both sides decided to table discussions. He missed Cleveland's game on Sept. 23 with strep throat, a decision he said he made on the advice of his agent. Hillis got hurt on Oct. 16 at Oakland, and two weeks later missed a Halloween party for needy kids, an absence he blamed on a miscommunication.
There was his meeting with some of the Browns' team leaders, who confronted him about being a distraction and missing treatments for his injury when he went to Arkansas last month to get married during a work week. Hillis then re-injured his hamstring in practice, two days before he had hoped to come back.
It's been a mess, one Hillis hopes to clean up.
"Things happen," he said, dismissing the suggestion his season has been a "nightmare."
"I guess when more people are looking at you everything seems more severe. I've got to be responsible and understand that as well, that no matter what you go through, you've always got to keep a good mindset and try to go through it as best you can.
"As far as this year, goes, I just look at like bumps in the road you have to overcome. That's in life with everybody."
For the past six Sundays, Hillis has been reduced to the role of cheerleader. It's been agonizing to stand on the sideline in sweats and watch. It's pained him not to be able to help his team.
"It's awful," he said.
Hillis believes his recovery was hastened by a platelet-rich plasma (PRP) injection into his injured hamstring. It's a treatment that involves extracting blood from patients and re-injecting just the plasma. The procedure is not prohibited by league policies, said NFL spokesman Greg Aiello.
"It's supposed to make you heal a lot faster than what it was and that's obviously what it did," he said. "It's been 2? weeks since the shot and I'm steadily improving day by day."
With his smash-and-dash running style, Hillis ran for nearly 1,200 yards and 11 touchdowns last season, his first with the Browns, who acquired him in a trade from Denver. He became an instant favorite with Cleveland fans, who helped vote him onto the cover of the Madden 12 video game, giving him national exposure.
But there's been nothing but problems this season, leading some to speculate that fame has gone to Hillis' head and changed him.
Hillis doesn't think so. "I'm still same guy," he said. "You get a few bumps in the road and you have to rebound from that and do your best on and off the field. Hopefully you can go out when you can and play ball and I don't care who you are, when you go out and you do well, it's going to make you feel better as a person and on this team."
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What a miraculous recovery Hillis has made...going from being OUT on Monday to suddenly on Friday, without warning, being 100%.
To those who want to believe in the tooth fairy, that PRP injection must be some fantastic stuff once it kicks in, completely healing Hillis' hamstring, taking Hillis from being out to 100% in 4 days.
This is JMHO...Hillis and his agent have been using this so called hammy injury as leverage in the contract negotiations, withholding Hillis' play, hoping the Browns would cave and give in to Hillis and his agents demands for more $$$.
To those who disagree, don't you wonder why Hillis' teammates felt the need for an intervention?
It was obvious to me that Hillis' teammates knew exactly what was going on with Hillis' hammy and believed it's the wrong strategy, if Hillis is looking for his "payday".
Joe Thomas didn't come right out and say, Hillis was lying about being injured, but he might as well have, telling Hillis to play, and the contract dollars would take care of themselves. Obviously Joe Thomas felt Hillis could play...
Hillis lost the support of his teammates and recently many Browns fans have been questioning Hillis' claim to be injured...Hillis has now lost the support of Browns fans who are openly questioning Hillis injury. Click on any Browns board you can find and Hillis' famous hammy is being questioned.
Hillis and his agent realize the Browns are not going to budge on the contract demands and most of Cleveland now realizes Hillis and his agent were attempting to use the famous hammy injury as leverage in the contract dispute with the Browns front office.
Now that Hillis has been outed in Cleveland, he and his agent want to attempt to show Hillis is capable of being the star he claims to be and deserves that fat payday when he hits the free agent market.
If I'm the Browns, I sit Hillis this week, realizing he is grossly out of shape, especially "football shape", not taking any hits for over a month...it's a good way to get a player injured for real
As for playing him in any of the remaining games after this week, why should the Browns build Hillis' free agent value, just to help him leave Cleveland for that fat payday Hillis and his agent hope to land. The Browns would be justified to keep Hillis' value right where it is today.
Hillis comes out of this looking very bad..as a football player..as a teammate..as a human being.
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Sorry to hear about your BIL.
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This is JMHO...Hillis and his agent have been using this so called hammy injury as leverage in the contract negotiations, withholding Hillis' play, hoping the Browns would cave and give in to Hillis and his agents demands for more $$$.
It might just be your opinion but it's still WRONG
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Or maybe Shurmer just said he was out and Hillis IS back to playing form.
From a contract standpoint it doesn't make sense for Hillis to sit out games.
As you said in your close, why help build his value?? That means his value took a hit by not playing. No??
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To those who want to believe in the tooth fairy, that PRP injection must be some fantastic stuff once it kicks in, completely healing Hillis' hamstring, taking Hillis from being out to 100% in 4 days.
Lol.
I'm with you, the guy is a diva. There's been guys who pulled a hammy and missed less time.
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What a miraculous recovery Hillis has made...going from being OUT on Monday to suddenly on Friday, without warning, being 100%.
I attribute it to your pointing out that he was faking. Once that cat was out of the bag what else could he do but have a miraculous recovery?
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I wonder if Houston Texan fans think Andre Johnson is faking?
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There's been guys who pulled a hammy and missed less time.
There's also been guys who've had a high ankle sprain and missed many weeks while others with the same injury have missed less time.
It's all about the severity of the injury which a lot of people ignore.
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not to mention that he did come back (to practice) and reinjured it.
no idea why fans think that a guy can fake a MRI which was said to show the tear?
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Sorry to hear of your loss mac...
As for your conspiracy theory on Hillis.. Blah. dude was injured, now he's better and might play.. Why on earth can't it just be that simple..why must there be all this talk of more to it than that?
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Any chance we can lock this thread until he re-injures his hammy again? I've read that he is feeling 100% and when I see this thread I think it was re-injured again. BTW, I think the Browns are going to win against the Bengals! I can't wait to see Colt get to 4 on the McCoy o meter rising fast!!!! 
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Hope you're right as far as the game today.
Flacco went 17-27 for 270 and 2 TD, 1 INT last week, so their defense looks at least somewhat vulnerable to the pass.
The Bengals defense seems to be trending in a bad direction, having given up 17, 24, and 31 points ion their last 3 games.
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Hope you're right as far as the game today.
Flacco went 17-27 for 270 and 2 TD, 1 INT last week, so their defense looks at least somewhat vulnerable to the pass.
The Bengals defense seems to be trending in a bad direction, having given up 17, 24, and 31 points ion their last 3 games.
For what it's worth - knowing your opinions on Colt - this seems like a "set up" post.
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Hope you're right as far as the game today.
Flacco went 17-27 for 270 and 2 TD, 1 INT last week, so their defense looks at least somewhat vulnerable to the pass.
The Bengals defense seems to be trending in a bad direction, having given up 17, 24, and 31 points ion their last 3 games.
For what it's worth - knowing your opinions on Colt - this seems like a "set up" post.
So, McCoy has to go with roughly the same stats as flacco or what?
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Oh dear God!
All I'm saying is that Cincinnati has had issues lately against the pass, and hopefully we take advantage of it.
So far McCoy has driven the Browns right down the field for our 1st 1st quarter TD of the season.
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