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Kinda crazy.....I just turned on the tv and Bob Costas was in a live phone interview with Sandusky asking him questions all about the charges.....Kinda nuts to hear a guy awaiting trial talking about his case with the media......


Its on 30 rock with Brian Williams or whatever that show is......

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yeah just caught a portion of that and he was asked did he do anything wrong and he said I shouldnt have taken showers with little boys.
You've got to be kidding me? Really, you think?


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yea ESPN's bottom line said he says he is innocent, but he admitted showering with them and hugging them in the shower and touching their legs, but never in a sexual manner.

is he delusional?
stupid?
thinks everyone else is stupid?


thats like someone saying, i didnt drink the alcohol, i swooshed it around in my mouth and spit it out.
I didnt smoke the pot, i rolled it up and put the joint in my mouth and puffed it but didnt inhale
i didnt steal the shirt, i wore it around the store, then forgot i had it on when i left...


cmon...really guy? REALLY GUY?!???


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i didnt steal the shirt, i wore it around the store, then forgot i had it on when i left...




I actually did this once....lol.
tried on a hoodie....then something caught my attention....mind wandered...next thing I know I am getting in my car and see the tag on the sleeve when I grabbed the steering wheel..,,

At which point I felt like...well, I already got away with it...no sense going into wal-mart to tell 'em i accidentally stole this ten dollar hoodie....

So I left.....

Oh well.

It was an accident....it can happen....use the fitting room and this won't happen.


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Costas outright asks him 'are you sexually attracted to young boys?' and he hedges on the answer.

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Costas outright asks him 'are you sexually attracted to young boys?' and he hedges on the answer.




and that wasn't the most incriminating one. i have to hand it to Costas, he did not pull a Jim Gray. he actually asked questions that we wanted asked.

at one point, he walked him through the 3 separate instances of the people who claim to have seen him. he just deflects claiming each of them must be mistaken. when Costas asks if he is just the unluckiest / most prosecuted man in history he just says "I don't know what you want me to say"

ridiculous. i hope he goes away for a long, long time.


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J/C...

I think Sandusky is setting up an insanity/ mental defect defense - that's the only thing that interview could have served a purpose for. What lawyer allows a client to answer the questions he did the WAY he did other than to set up a defense?

Costas did a great job - but that interview was the worst/most disgusting thing I've ever heard.


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Anyone read the latest Wetzel article?

Dude's lawyer, at age 49, impregnated a 17 year old girl!

Seriously, you can't make this stuff up.

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I think Sandusky is setting up an insanity/ mental defect defense - that's the only thing that interview could have served a purpose for. What lawyer allows a client to answer the questions he did the WAY he did other than to set up a defense?

Costas did a great job - but that interview was the worst/most disgusting thing I've ever heard.




The odd think is insanity or mental defect is exactly the guys problem if it is proven he did this sort of thing.

I am not trying to get him off by any means, but one has to be pretty twisted in the brain to do something like that. No??


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I am not trying to get him off by any means, but one has to be pretty twisted in the brain to do something like that. No??




Agreed.

I'd just like to know what purpose it served for him to talk the way he chose to. No one feels better about him - in fact everybody somehow feels WORSE about him after hearing what he said... I'd have thought that would be impossible a few days ago. The only thing it served, IMO, was that everybody has now heard his voice/tone and realizes he's a complete nutjob - not just a sick bastage.


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There are as many as 10 additional victims that have come forward, according to this article:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/15/sports...andal.html?_r=1

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I know that last night, he denied being a Pedophile, but I just don't believe him.. he hedged his answers way to often...


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I could of lived a happy life without hearing Bob Costas vividly described Sandusky raping a boy in the shower...



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I could of lived a happy life without hearing Bob Costas vividly described Sandusky raping a boy in the shower...






Me too.. That was kinda disgusting to be honest..

Ya know,, if the way Costas described it is the way that McCreary heard it,, what in THE hell was that idiot thinking.. he absolutly should have gone in there and beat the beejeesus out of sandusky... or at the very least, pulled him up off the kid and made damn sure that ALL the powers at the college were aware of it.


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I could of lived a happy life without hearing Bob Costas vividly described Sandusky raping a boy in the shower...






He was just quoting the grand jury report.

Costas conducted a great interview here.

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Costas: Mr. Sandusky, there is a 40-count indictment, the grand jury report contains specific details. There are multiple accusers, multiple eyewitnesses to various aspects of the abuse. A reasonable person says, “Where there is this much smoke, there must be plenty of fire.” What do you say?

Sandusky: I say that I am innocent of those charges.

Costas: Innocent? Completely innocent and falsely accused in every aspect?

Sandusky: Well, I could say that, you know, I have done some of those things. I have horsed around with kids. I have showered after workouts. I have hugged them and I have touched their legs, without intent of sexual contact. But, um… uh … So, if you look at it that way … uh … there are things that … that … uh … wouldn’t … uh, you know, would be accurate.

Costas: Are you denying that you had any inappropriate sexual contact with any of these underage boys?

Sandusky: Yes, I am.

Costas: Never touched their genitals? Never engaged in oral sex?

Sandusky: Right.

Costas: What about Mike McQueary? The grad assistant, who in 2002 walked into the shower where he says in specific detail that you were forcibly raping a boy who appeared to be 10 or 11 years old, that his hands were up against the shower wall, and he heard rhythmic slap, slap, slapping sounds, and he described that as a rape?

Sandusky: I would say that that’s false.

Costas: What would be his motive to lie?

Sandusky: You’d have to ask him that.

Costas: What did happen in the shower the night that Mike McQueary happened upon you and the young boy?

Sandusky: OK, we were showering and … and horsing around. And he actually turned all the showers on and was actually sliding across the floor and um and we were, as I recall, possibly, like, snapping a towel and horseplay.

Costas: In 1998, a mother confronts you about taking a shower with her son and inappropriately touching him. Two detectives eavesdrop on her conversations with you and you admit that, maybe, your private parts touched her son. What happened there?

Sandusky: I can’t exactly recall what was said there. In terms of, uh, what I did say was that if he felt that way then I was wrong.

Costas: During one of those conversations, you said, “I understand. I was wrong. I wish I could get forgiveness,” speaking now with the mother, “I know I won’t get it from you. I wish I were dead.” A guy falsely accused, or a guy whose actions have been misinterpreted, doesn’t respond that way. Does he?

Sandusky: I don’t know. I didn’t say, to my recollection, that “I wish I were dead.” I was hopeful that we could reconcile things.

Costas: Shortly after that, in 2000, a janitor said that he saw you performing oral sex on a young boy in the showers in the Penn State locker facility. Did that happen?

Sandusky: No.

Costas: How could somebody think they saw something as extreme and shocking as that when it hadn’t occurred? And what would possibly be their motivation to fabricate it?

Sandusky: You’d have to ask them.

Costas: It seems that, if all of these accusations are false, you are the unluckiest and most persecuted man that any of us has ever heard about.

Sandusky: [Laughs] I don’t know what you want me to say. I don’t think that these have been the best days of my life.

During a break in Costas’ telephone segment with Sandusky, the accused’s lawyer, Jopseh Amendola, appeared in studio and took several questions. With Amendola remaining nearby, Costas then went back to querying Sandusky.

Costas: To your knowledge, did Joe Paterno have any information regarding objectionable activities on your part prior to that report in 2002?

Sandusky: My… I can’t totally answer that question. My answer would be, “no.”

Costas: Did Joe Paterno, at any time, ever speak to you directly about your behavior?

Sandusky: No.

Costas: Never?

Sandusky: No.

Costas: He never asked you about what you might have done?

Sandusky: No.

Costas: He never asked you if needed help, if you needed counseling?

Sandusky: No, no.

Costas: Never expressed disapproval of any kind?

Sandusky: No.

Costas: How do you feel about what has happened to Penn State and to Joe Paterno? And to the Penn State football program? And your part in it?

Sandusky: How would you think I would feel about a university that I attended? About people that I worked with? About people that I care so much about? How do you think I would feel about it? I feel horrible.

Costas: You feel horrible. Do you feel culpable?

Sandusky: I’m not sure what I know what you mean?

Costas: Do you feel guilty?

Sandusky: Guilty?

Costas: Do you feel as if it’s your fault

Sandusky: No. I don’t think it’s my fault. I’ve obviously played a part in this.

Costas: How would you define the part you played? What are you willing to concede that you’ve done that was wrong and that you wish you had not done?

Sandusky: Well, in retrospect, I … you know … I shouldn’t have showered with those kids. And, some…

Costas: That’s it?

Sandusky: Yeah, that’s what hits me the most.

Costas: Are you a pedophile?

Sandusky: No.

Costas: Are you sexually attracted to young boys? To underage boys?

Sandusky: Am I sexually attracted to underage boys?

Costas: Yes.

Sandusky: Sexually attracted? You know, I enjoy young people. I love to be around them. I … but, no, I am not sexually attracted to young boys.

Costas: Obviously, you’re entitled to a presumption of innocence and you will receive a vigorous defense. On the other hand, there is a tremendous amount of information out there and fair-minded, common sense people have concluded that you are guilty of monstrous acts. And they are particularly unforgiving with the type of crimes that have been alleged here. And, so, millions of Americans who didn’t know Jerry Sandusky’s name until a week ago now regard you not only as a criminal but — I say this I think in a considered way — but as some sort of a monster. How do you respond to them?

Sandusky: I don’t know what I can say or what I could say that would make anybody feel any different now. I would just say that if somehow people could hang on until my attorney has a chance to fight you know for my innocence. But that’s about all I could ask right now and you know obviously it’s a huge challenge.



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First you take out your phone and take a picture, then you go beat the crap out of him.


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If I'm on the jury and that interview is the basis of Sandusky's testimony in court, I'm sorry but thats just not believable. Unless there is other testimony as to his innocence I'd convict.


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There will be a lot of testimony from a lot of people and it's going to be very hard to believe anything he says when it's stacked up against 20, 30, 40 kids and parents and eyewitnesses...


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The only thing that's holding me up..

Is MCquery is now saying he didn't just run away and tell his dad etc...

...That he stopped it from happening...

Which isn't at all what he said in the Grand Jury Testimony...

Perjury much?


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Oh I know. I'm just commenting on my reaction to the interview with Costas. Jerry just does NOT come across as believable. Quite frankly I'm not sure if it sounds like he's in denial or just outright lying.

:shrug: What a mess.


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First you take out your phone and take a picture, then you go beat the crap out of him.




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Well, yeah

But seriously, wouldn't you stop him? I mean at least let him know you saw him doing this? Come on,, who in thier right mind wouldn't step in?

Please understand, I'm not excusing anyone of anything.. But this could have ended right there and been done and overwith.


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There will be a lot of testimony from a lot of people and it's going to be very hard to believe anything he says when it's stacked up against 20, 30, 40 kids and parents and eyewitnesses...




If you note, during the interview the lawyer cryptically says that many of these kids are recanting their stories.

What that means is anyone's guess, but to me it signals that they're going to look for a lot of hush money settlements. I think they're delusional if they think that will help much in the end, but based on what I heard it sounds like that's the route they're pursuing.

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But seriously, wouldn't you stop him?



I would like to think that in defense of a little kid like that, I would either stop him or die trying.


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THIS!!!




Not to split hairs here, but remember this incident was 2002 IIRC - camera phones may have been around by then, but their's no way they were as prevelant.

Why waste time - just beat the tar out of the guy, drag his old, naked pedolphilic you know what down to the closest police station and let them figure it out. Game over - incident stopped - other children saved. You (McQueary) are a hero and your old fart HC coaches until he dies up in the box... naw, I'll (McQueary) just supposedly stop the incident, call my dad, tell my coach and let it go for 9 years, I'm sure it's worked itself out by now.

GTHOH.

Man every time I think, hear or talk about any of these shmucks I get more upset - I apologize for my ranting.


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Well, yeah

But seriously, wouldn't you stop him? I mean at least let him know you saw him doing this? Come on,, who in thier right mind wouldn't step in?

Please understand, I'm not excusing anyone of anything.. But this could have ended right there and been done and overwith.




You have to intervene. I don't know how you could ever look that boy and his mother and father in the eye after that. You could have stopped him.

Plus, you're a 28 year old former captain and quarterback, he's a pretty big dude. and you're talking about an old man. It's not like you couldn't have ended that thing right there.

I know it's disturbing, and seeing that will scar you for life, but I think there is moral code there that McQuery failed miserably at. Paterno gets the headline because he's a living legend, but McQuery failed just the same.

Paterno is also the most well known, and respected man on that campus, he could have ended that thing as well.

I can't see how this guy gets a fair trial, everyone in the entire country with the exception of the members of NAMBLA hates him.

Jim Rome broke down his interview today, and asked both of his screeners in the thousands of emails, tweets, and texts if anyone was buying/backing what Sandusky said, not one.

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Interesting article - some are reporting that McQueary did actually stop the incident in 2002, which was left out of the report:

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/7...t-mike-mcqueary

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On Monday night, ESPN's Tom Rinaldi reported that a source familiar with the Penn State investigation said McQueary actually stopped the alleged 2002 attack he told a grand jury he witnessed in the shower. McQueary said something similar in an email he sent to former teammates, according to a report by NBC. "I did the right thing … you guys know me," McQueary wrote.

Numerous attempts to reach McQueary for this story went unreturned. In addition, many of those close to him declined to comment. In a brief interview with ESPN.com last week, McQueary's father, John, hinted there was more to the story than what had been reported. It is not unusual for a grand jury to leave certain details of its investigation out of its report.

"There is nothing I would like more than to tell you about all the great things my son has done," John McQueary said by phone. "There is truly another side to Mike than what's out there. But at this point he doesn't have the advantage of trying to respond. That's our assignment. We'll do it and get through this. And at some point when things loosen up we will be able to say more and people will gain a better understanding."



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Interesting article - some are reporting that McQueary did actually stop the incident in 2002, which was left out of the report:

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/7...t-mike-mcqueary

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On Monday night, ESPN's Tom Rinaldi reported that a source familiar with the Penn State investigation said McQueary actually stopped the alleged 2002 attack he told a grand jury he witnessed in the shower. McQueary said something similar in an email he sent to former teammates, according to a report by NBC. "I did the right thing … you guys know me," McQueary wrote.

Numerous attempts to reach McQueary for this story went unreturned. In addition, many of those close to him declined to comment. In a brief interview with ESPN.com last week, McQueary's father, John, hinted there was more to the story than what had been reported. It is not unusual for a grand jury to leave certain details of its investigation out of its report.

"There is nothing I would like more than to tell you about all the great things my son has done," John McQueary said by phone. "There is truly another side to Mike than what's out there. But at this point he doesn't have the advantage of trying to respond. That's our assignment. We'll do it and get through this. And at some point when things loosen up we will be able to say more and people will gain a better understanding."







If this is true, then I'm glad that he did stop Sandusky. How that didn't get out before I don't know... Which is why I'm questioning it.


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I hope he did more but you are going to have a hard time convincing most people that he did enough.


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There will be a lot of testimony from a lot of people and it's going to be very hard to believe anything he says when it's stacked up against 20, 30, 40 kids and parents and eyewitnesses...




If you note, during the interview the lawyer cryptically says that many of these kids are recanting their stories.

What that means is anyone's guess, but to me it signals that they're going to look for a lot of hush money settlements. I think they're delusional if they think that will help much in the end, but based on what I heard it sounds like that's the route they're pursuing.




Pretty much my thoughts after I listened to the lawyer. Hush money. Problem is, does sandusky have enough money to hush all the kids? No. Does he have enough to hush enough of them? Who knows.

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