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I just find it hilarious that some UM fans now are talking about UM like they are some kind of superior team,and OState is looking up at them as some kind of Goliath.
Who is saying that? I see a bunch of OSU fans trying to discredit Michigan's win and telling everyone who will listen that Michigan won't win another game in this series for a long time. That's Michigan fans acting like Goliath? 
Ohio State's fan base is largely viewed as a group that can dish out plenty of humble pie but can't bear to even eat a crumb. There's a few in here disproving that theory but the majority of you are just par for the course.
I'm pretty at ease with where Hoke is taking this program. He's steadied the ship, won with offensive talent that doesn't fit his pro style system and hired a guy who completely turned around the defense in 1 season. Not to mention he's 1-0 against OSU, 1-0 against ND.
You can crab about Michigan's schedule but last time I checked, they completely smoked 2 teams that OSU lost to (Nebraska & Purdue) and beat OSU head to head. Don't think the whole schedule thing means much of anything once you get down to it.
I'm not naive enough to think it will be easy or that this will automatically turn in to some free pass against OSU but Michigan returns 17 of 22 on the two deep on offense. Not sure why OSU fans think they're just going to cart largely the same team back out next year (minus 3 offensive lineman, their starting RB and possibly their best reciever) and have no problem beating Michigan?
I expect it to be a very competitive series, just as it always has been over the 100+ years they've played. Do I expect them to win next year? Not expect but they certainly will have another pretty good team. Don't think anyone should be screaming "Michigan is back!" but Hoke knows what he's doing and that's all you can ask for. With an huge influx of talent next year (#2 recruiting class), coupled with a lot of experience on offense, Michigan certainly isn't going away.
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Not trying to discredit anything. But what I said before is true....
It boiled down to this: If Braxton Miller could throw a decent spiral even 70% of the time with even average accuracy OSU would have won by at least 2 TDs.
But he can't and Michigan won. Congrats to them.
Sorry, I calls 'em as I sees 'em.....
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Lots of parity in college football. I give Michigan a chance in their bowl game. People are saying that Michigan's db's are garbage, but what people forget is that Ohio State can hang with any team in the country. - Not the best team this year, but definitely a good team. My observations of "The Game, 2011" Ohio State has lost a lot of talent on the defensive line over the last two years. Michigan's option was clicking, due in large part to the youth on Ohio State's D-line. Michigan can certainly win their bowl game. Michigan, Wisconsin, Michigan St., and Ohio State are all tough teams to beat. As for the future: Sorry Nas, but wherever Urban Meyer goes, he wins. I said this when he was at Florida. Heck I said this on this very board on the eve of the 2006 title game. Urban Meyer's coaching prowess is better than any other coach's in the world. He is without a doubt the best coach in college football. To have him coach at Ohio State, to me, fulfills one of my two sports fantasies. (The other being obvious). Urban Meyer is from Ohio, and the excitement and joy I have to see him at Ohio State is limitless. 
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Good win for Michigan, they needed it big time.
They deserved the win no doubt, but LOLZ at their "vaunted" defense, and LOLZ at the fans charging the field after winning a game in which they were more than a touchdown favorite. Yes, OSU fans rushing the field is one thing, but they were 7 point dogs at home. I'm sorry this is even worse.
As an Ohio State fan, you have to be excited about what Urban Meyer can do with Braxton Miller.
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but definitely a good team.
A good team doesn't go 6-6 and get blown out by Miami, lose to Purdue and Penn State and squeak by Toledo.
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but definitely a good team.
A good team doesn't go 6-6 and get blown out by Miami, lose to Purdue and Penn State and squeak by Toledo.
This worst one of the worst Ohio State teams I've ever seen. Very talented, but poorly prepared, and I think the whole Tressel thing was a dark cloud over the program. I'm not a Fickell fan, but he was put into a tough spot with those kids knowing he wasn't going to be around. Was put into HC spot as a lame duck.
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but definitely a good team.
A good team doesn't go 6-6 and get blown out by Miami, lose to Purdue and Penn State and squeak by Toledo.
Thank you,
This is easily our worst team in the last decade. At least our Alamo Bowl team had Ted Ginn and Troy Smith.
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Hey, I'll gladly devalue this win if I can devalue some of those Rich Rod losses. Is that what we're all in agreement on? You only have to count the losses when your team is good?  You play the game with the players you have. The sub par team OSU carted out this year was largely a result of your former coach running a loose ship and covering up NCAA violations. Eventually, that stuff catches up with you. After watching UM endure a system change and falling flat on their face, I guess I'm just interested to see how Meyer does at OSU. They're returning a pretty sub par pro style offense, save a young QB who MIGHT improve throwing and a young defense that really wasn't that good this year. He's not exactly stepping in to a team chock full of talent, like he was at Florida. Plus the defensive coordinator from his 2006 national championship team is now employed at Michigan. I don't think Meyer will fail but I also don't think it's going to be as easy as OSU fans are talking themselves in to it being. Let's hire Urban and all of our problems go away. Seems to be the prevailing opinion. What's his record against Michigan? I remember ol' Lloyd Carr smacking his 2007 Florida team around. 
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yeah, in a meaningless bowl game...
you can discount all the RR/Carr losses if you want to, because most of us did. other than '01, '02, '05, and '06, the rest were ho-hum.
Last were was about as unexciting as it got, 37-7 to the point where Robinson no longer wanted to run the offense... (Tate Forcier anyone?)
Michigan had a nice year, but it's not like they had a bunch of quality wins. They beat a decent Nebraska squad, didn't play Wisconsin or Penn State and were only 2-2 on the road.
I mean the guy barely beat Luke Fickell.
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I was just talking about Miller in general...not this game...he is not there yet. Nobody can argue that. He makes plays...but he is young so things like missing wide open WRs is to be expected....just hope he improves.
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You're just proving the point.
If Michigan loses, they'd never heard the end of it...
But they win, and well, OSU sucks this year so who cares right?
It's ridiculous...
Am I the only one that pronounces hyperbole "Hyper-bowl" instead of "hy-per-bo-le"?
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I also don't think Michigan deserves a BCS game. Wisconsin is a better team, and Mich St clearly was the better team.
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I think all the BCS talk was silly.
Am I the only one that pronounces hyperbole "Hyper-bowl" instead of "hy-per-bo-le"?
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I think all the BCS talk was silly.
I think they are in the conversation and I know the B10 title game runner up shouldn't get it automatically (similar to the SEC where Georgia will get nothing if they lose) but to me Wisconsin was the better team. They donf't have a ton of quality wins either. Neither team has a great road win.
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OSU lost to Purdue and Nebraska, teams Michigan pounded. I'm not sure why this whole schedule thing is even worth rehashing? OSU beat Wisconsin and you want to mention Michigan not playing them as making it easier on UM? If OSU can beat them, I'm sure Michigan can.  Who did Wisconsin beat? Nebraska? Michigan pounded them too. Wiscy lost to OSU, who Michigan beat and lost to MSU, who Michigan lost to as well. Both teams were 2-2 on the road. So if Wisconsin loses to MSU twice, including on a neutral field, they deserve to go to the BCS over a team who beat one of the teams they lost to (OSU) AND would have a better record than them? The whole BCS thing for UM isn't a lock. They still need help but the BCS is about $$$$$$$. Michigan produces more of it than MSU or Wiscy, so that's why they'll get the nod (if they're in the top 14 of the BCS). In terms of who's the better team, that seems pretty subjective at this point. Common opponents, stats and road records will tell you UW and UM are pretty similar teams.
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yeah, in a meaningless bowl game...
you can discount all the RR/Carr losses if you want to, because most of us did. other than '01, '02, '05, and '06, the rest were ho-hum.
Last were was about as unexciting as it got, 37-7 to the point where Robinson no longer wanted to run the offense... (Tate Forcier anyone?)
Michigan had a nice year, but it's not like they had a bunch of quality wins. They beat a decent Nebraska squad, didn't play Wisconsin or Penn State and were only 2-2 on the road.
I mean the guy barely beat Luke Fickell.
So now bowl games are meaningless too? I'm sure OSU didn't care if they won the Sugar Bowl last year, huh?
And you completely made up the part about Robinson last year not wanting to run the offense anymore.
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yeah, in a meaningless bowl game...
you can discount all the RR/Carr losses if you want to, because most of us did. other than '01, '02, '05, and '06, the rest were ho-hum.
Last were was about as unexciting as it got, 37-7 to the point where Robinson no longer wanted to run the offense... (Tate Forcier anyone?)
Michigan had a nice year, but it's not like they had a bunch of quality wins. They beat a decent Nebraska squad, didn't play Wisconsin or Penn State and were only 2-2 on the road.
I mean the guy barely beat Luke Fickell.
So now bowl games are meaningless too? I'm sure OSU didn't care if they won the Sugar Bowl last year, huh?
And you completely made up the part about Robinson last year not wanting to run the offense anymore.
It was nice they beat Arkanas, but nothing to brag about. Although at least it was a BCS game.
But yeah, go back and watch the Michigan game last year. Robinson was finished, they had to put TATE FREAKING FORCIER back in the game.
lolz @ making it up though, that's funny, it was 37-7 yo, and the point I made about that game is that it wasn't a big deal to me, because it wasn't.
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Robinson was hurt. Plain and simple. It had nothing to do with him not wanting to go back into the game as you said.
And just because the game is meaningless to you does not mean it was to those players. Michigan beat Meyer head to head with a team that was between NC and had the Heisman winner on the team.
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Robinson was hurt. Plain and simple. It had nothing to do with him not wanting to go back into the game as you said.
And just because the game is meaningless to you does not mean it was to those players. Michigan beat Meyer head to head with a team that was between NC and had the Heisman winner on the team.
with all the pressures gone that the regular season brings you. that's why I don't put a ton into bowl games.
other than laying down a few bucks and getting one last look at nfl type prospects, what's the point of watching?
and seriously, if michigan fan's anwer is "well we beat you in a bowl game some years ago", then I think they don't have much to go on.
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Robinson was hurt. Plain and simple. It had nothing to do with him not wanting to go back into the game as you said.
And just because the game is meaningless to you does not mean it was to those players. Michigan beat Meyer head to head with a team that was between NC and had the Heisman winner on the team.
with all the pressures gone that the regular season brings you. that's why I don't put a ton into bowl games.
other than laying down a few bucks and getting one last look at nfl type prospects, what's the point of watching?
and seriously, if michigan fan's anwer is "well we beat you in a bowl game some years ago", then I think they don't have much to go on.
Nas wasn't" trying to have something to go on". He made a joke comment about how Michigan beat Meyer, and you have to jump out with the "meaningless bowl game" comment.
My point is that no bowl game is meaningless to the players, and that what Nas stated was true.
It is kind of funny at how personal it is taken and how offended some OSU fans are getting about this. God only knows what this board would look like had OSU won.
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I was saying all week michigan better win otherwise they wouldn't hear the end of it and honestly that should have been the case. They were ripe for the picking, hence the 9 point spread.
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I was saying all week michigan better win otherwise they wouldn't hear the end of it and honestly that should have been the case. They were ripe for the picking, hence the 9 point spread.
Right, and Michigan won, and there honestly hasn't been too much trash talk at all, but even the few small jabs thrown in and many OSU fans are all upset and making thousands of excuses. That was my point.
If OSU has won, there would have been no end to it, but they didn't, and some fans refuse to even hear a little trash talk without getting offended.
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I was saying all week michigan better win otherwise they wouldn't hear the end of it and honestly that should have been the case. They were ripe for the picking, hence the 9 point spread.
Right, and Michigan won, and there honestly hasn't been too much trash talk at all, but even the few small jabs thrown in and many OSU fans are all upset and making thousands of excuses. That was my point.
If OSU has won, there would have been no end to it, but they didn't, and some fans refuse to even hear a little trash talk without getting offended.
No excuses from me, Michigan won, and Ohio State had their chances. Too many things going against them.
But I have to LOL at some of the stuff I've heard from Michigan fans, and not all of it on this board.
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And I have to laugh at some OSU fans as well. Every fan base has its delusional fans.
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