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http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/e...zfwO_story.htmlNotice for instance - SOPA makes what I'm doing right now illegal (copying the text file directly over to dawgtalkers.com). In the post SOPA world, the washingtonpost could move to have ISPs shut down dawgtalkers for this infringement. Contact Conresspeople through EFF: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/12/fight-blacklist-toolkit-anti-sopa-activistsQuote:
A collection of interenet engineers critical to the early formation of the internet have written an open letter to Congress warning against the passage of the Stop Online Privacy Act (SOPA). As Cecilia Kang reported :
Some of the original engineers of the Internet called Thursday for lawmakers to scrap anti-piracy bills, saying the proposals would pose major technological barriers for the Web and stifle new innovations.
The letter comes as House Judiciary committee members on Thursday debate the Stop Online Privacy Act introduced by Lamar Smith (R-Tex.) that has drawn impassioned support from media firms but opposition by Web firms and some public interest groups.
At the hearing, California Reps. Zoe Lofgren (D) and Darrell Issa (R) have asked the committee to reconsider the bill and amendments to it in a hearing.
But many lawmakers of both parties are in support of the legislation.
“Because the U.S. produces the most intellectual property, our nation has the most to lose if we fail to address the problem of rogue sites,” said Judiciary Committee Chairman Smith said in a statement.
Ranking member John Conyers (D-Mich.) said the bill should be passed to protect jobs.
“Online property crime robs American artists and harms American consumers,” Conyers said.
Engineers, however, have warned that the bills have been introduced without enough consideration of how laws would affect the Internet.
Vint Cerf of Google, domain name system software author Paul Vixie and Internet routing engineer Tony Li were among 83 high-profile engineers who signed an open letter to Congress in opposition to the House Stop Online Privacy Act and Senate Protect Intellectual Property Act.
“If enacted, either of these bills will create an environment of tremendous fear and uncertainty for technological innovation, and seriously harm the credibility of the United States in its role as a steward of key Internet infrastructure,” the engineers wrote.
Joining the voices of civil liberties groups which initially criticized the bill, some journalists are joining their voices to the growing backlash against SOPA. As Elizabeth Flock explained:
As the Stop Online Piracy Act heads to a vote in the House Judiciary Committee tomorrow morning, its opponents are lining up to stop it. The bill’s newest foe? Journalists.
First came the critiques of civil liberties and human rights groups. Then came the slams from Internet engineers and Web giants, including Facebook, Twitter, and Google. Wednesday, the American Society of News Editors (ASNE) piled on by sending Congress a letter to ask that it stop the bill. ASNE represents newspaper editors, editors of wire services and online-only news organizations, and other journalists.
If passed, SOPA would expand the ability of law enforcement and copyright holders to shut down any site that hosts pirated content. But as the American Censorship group voiced on the blog Boing Boing on Wednesday, many believe “SOPA would not only hurt free speech, it will choke off the Internet workforce and its readers by taking down entire Web sites.”
Yesterday, the Post’s Maura Judkis reported that a group of people who work on the Internet launched a visual petition so Congress could see the faces of those who would be hurt by SOPA. Journalists are among their ranks.
Last month, Jennifer Martinez of Politico wrote that SOPA will be a “shootout at the digital corral,” between lobbyists in the entertainment industry and Internet giants. She can now add journalists to that list.
Dan Gillmor, a professor of digital media entrepreneurship at Arizona State University, shared the ASNE letter on his Google+ page Wednesday, writing: “Finally, journalists see the threat from SOPA and . . . this runaway train.”
Google’s founder Sergey Brin also lent his voice to the fight against SOPA, calling it ‘censorship’. As Cecilia Kang reported :
Google has emerged as one of the biggest corporate critics of a House anti-piracy bill, with co-founder Sergey Brin now likening the proposal to Internet censorship practices in China and Iran.
Brin took to the Google+ social networking site Thursday to post his opinion of the Stop Online Piracy Act being debated Thursday in the House Judiciary Committee for markup. He also opposes the Senate’s version of the measure, known as the Protect Intellectual Property Act.
“Imagine my astonishment when the newest threat to free speech has come from none other but the United States. Two bills currently making their way through congress -- SOPA and PIPA -- give the U.S. government and copyright holders extraordinary powers including the ability to hijack DNS and censor search results (and this is even without so much as a proper court trial),” Brin wrote. “While I support their goal of reducing copyright infringement (which I don't believe these acts would accomplish), I am shocked that our lawmakers would contemplate such measures that would put us on a par with the most oppressive nations in the world.”
Some lawmakers have bristled at those comparisons.
During the hearing, Rep. Berman (D-Calif.) attacked similar analogies made by Rep. Lofgren (D-Calif.) about SOPA’s ability to censor Web users through surveillance and filtering of their activities.
“That’s nonsense,” Berman said. “There’s a big difference between regulating commercial activity designed to deceive consumers and violate ownership rights and those seeking to suppress political conduct and dissent.”
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I find it interesting that they don'thave the time or cahones to settle a budget conflict, but they got time to debate a topic like this.  A topic that none of them truely know or understand.
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I listened for about 30 min today - the number of times I've heard "Well, I'm not a nerd, but from what I'm told....", or "I'm not technie, but they tell me..." is astounding.
I don't think they quite realize the implications of a law this open ended.
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I find it interesting that they don'thave the time or cahones to settle a budget conflict, but they got time to debate a topic like this. A topic that none of them truely know or understand.
Boy isn't that the truth.
This crap and baseball, and other garbage ....... but the federal budget? Who has time for something that minor?
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The moment they pass this and enforce it, is the moment I stop paying for Internet and I still won't ever come across their content. So much for trying to make bucks by forcing their content on their own site. Heck, I would never venture over to their site unless I see a story from their and then I may just visit it.
They are trying to kill golden eggs for bigger golden eggs, but failing to realize why they have those golden eggs to begin with. If it were not for people, posting their content to other sites, their traffic would be lower. They are better off just not having their own website to begin with.
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jc GoDaddy Facing Possible Boycott Over SOPA Support As the U.S. House pledges to continue pushing for the passage of the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) next year, companies supporting the legislation are increasingly coming under fire. Old media like the movie and TV industries are obviously in favor of it, but most tech firms are opposed. One iÔternet heavyweight that is in favor of SOPA is domain registrar GoDaddy. Now that everyone has caught wind of that, many are proposing a "Move Your Domain Away From GoDaddy Day." GoDaddy is so firmly in favor of SOPA’s anti-piracy provisions that it sent a fire and brimstone letter to the House in which they said the bill was about “... preserving, protecting, and creating American jobs and protecting American consumers.” The statement went on to downplay concerns over censorship as “an affront to the very fabric of [the] nation.”. Critics of the legislation disagree, claiming that SOPA and its companion Senate bill Protect IP would hand too much power to copyright owners to pull a site offline with no due process. The Reddit thread where the idea of a boycott first started has over 4000 upvotes and 2000 comments, most of them supportive of the boycott. Other registrars are using the opportunity to promote their services, and are offering former GoDaddy users discounts to switch. Would you move domains from GoDaddy if this picks up steam? web page
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I would not mind them completely shutting down every piracy site ........
If people were able to find, access, and pay for the things they want.
If you don't have cable, but want to watch a football game, you should be able to pay for one game (or a package) and watch them just as if you had them on TV. Same thing for cable networks. They whine about piracy, but I bet that there would be very little piracy if they would make their programming available at a reasonable cost. I would go with the MLB and NBA packages, but they have idiotic blackout provisions. If I cannot watch the Indians or Cavaliers live, why bother paying for a package? There really is no need for such blackouts, except that it protects certain "partners".
I remember when the big thing years ago was music piracy. OMG, that was going to destroy the music industry.
Along come iTunes and other services ...... and suddenly people can buy what they want, in a format they want, and everyone is happy. I'm sure there is still some piracy, but I bet that it has dropped tremendously .... and to the point where people and media really don't even talk about it anymore.
The movie industry has worked out arrangements for their movies with different services. In many cases I can go watch a movie newly released to video on Amazon on Demand or another similar service. There is talk that movies currently running in theaters may move to streaming as well .... obviously for a premium price. This gives people the opportunity to see the movies they want to see, and to actually pay for them.
The problem right now is not that people want to steal ..... it's that there is no way to pay for what they want to see. I will not pay the cable company $100/month for TV service ...... but I would probably pay $5/month each for the channels I want, if they were available online. (or through the Roku or other similar device) This is more than the content providers currently get from cable/satellite companies per subscriber.
Bringing broadcasting into the 21st century would bring piracy down to almost nothing. Give people the freedom to buy what they want instead of having to go look for it online, and probably illegally. It would also be a lot more consumer friendly than trying to throw people in jail.
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I would go with the MLB and NBA packages, but they have idiotic blackout provisions. If I cannot watch the Indians or Cavaliers live, why bother paying for a package? There really is no need for such blackouts, except that it protects certain "partners".
I absolutely agree. CBS and FOX are essentially holding us hostage.
The only team I want to really watch is the Browns. I get the Jets and Giants locally, and I do regularly watch the Jets, but the team I really watch is the Browns.
Why can't I pay 10$ a week and get my Browns games? That's 160$ a year to ONLY watch the Browns. It's really frustrating that I can't do that. That's a pretty reasonable price IMO. Even 15$ a week. Why do we have to pay for EVERY team? What am I supposed to do?
It's cheaper for me to go to the bar, begging to get a television with the Browns on it in my vicinity, spending about 30$ a game, and listen to the game in silence (and that's what I usually do!).
Same thing with UFC events. 50 dollars for Pay Per View? How is someone supposed to afford that? I don't have four buddies willing to come over (give up their weekend night) and drop 10$ each to watch UFC fights. So if I go to a bar to watch, generally there's loud music going on or something and I can't actually really watch the fight because it's Saturday Night and people are looking to get drunk. Regular people shouldn't be charged the prices charged at bars. I'd pay 15 dollars pay per view for UFC fights, but I can't.
So instead I stream them................ --------------------------------- NFL.com offered Browns games streaming during this pre-season. What happened? I paid for them and was able to watch them, at my home, on my couch, on my HDTV, with my snacks and beer. That's what I want with every game...........
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I agree - they need to offer games a la carte or at an entire season at a discount. Maybe 20/game individually and 15/game for the season. \They would make a killing, however it would really hurt the networks which as you stated are holding something like this hostage. I'd want the individual provision since I have season tickets and wouldn't need all of the games - heck they ought to have something worked out for season ticket holders where they get the away games for an additional fee as a perk.
Another irritating thing, being in Columbus, is that I am shown Bungle games when they are "better". I wish tÓey could somehow show 1 game on the HD feed and the other on the regular channel but of course NFL rules do not allow that because of the networks.
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On Eve Of Net Boycott, Dump GoDaddy Exodus Begins | Fox News http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/12/28/on-eve-net-boycott-dump-godaddy-exodus-begins/It’s a boycott of viral proportions. GoDaddy.com, one of the largest domain registrars on the Internet, stands to potentially lose thousands of customers on Thursday, Dec. 29, after the company gave and then repealed its support for a controversial bill before Congress that many fear could heavily restrict the web. On the eve of what has been dubbed “Dump Go Daddy Day,” imgur.com -- pronounced "imager," it's one of the largest image hosting sites in the world, responsible for an astonishing 28 terabytes of bandwidth and nearly 200 million page views today alone -- has already changed its registry entries, foreshadowing the potential negative effect of a boycott set to begin Thursday morning. GoDaddy.com originally supported the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) -- which opponents say will hinder free speech and infringe on first amendment rights -- but quickly recanted its position when the call of a boycott circulated. “The outcry kind of forced our hand,” imgur founder and owner Alan Schaaf told FoxNews.com. “I’m against the SOPA act and imgur as a company is against it. We just feel it is terrible that GoDaddy.com would support this legislation.” SOPA would make websites responsible for illegal copyright content uploaded by any user, making it difficult if not impossible for companies like Imgur, YouTube, and Facebook to operate. “If SOPA were to pass, Imgur would not be able to exist,” Schaaf said, “We survive on user-generated content. It would be impossible for us to police the amount of traffic we get for what is or isn’t copyrighted material. It’s just not possible.” The photo site is run by a skeleton crew of just three employees, yet the massive site is responsible for putting about 200 million cute cat pictures, skateboarding slip-ups and girls in bikinis on computer monitors every day -- and nearly 11 billion per month. The call to dump Go Daddy started when one user of popular link-sharing site reddit.com was unhappy with the response he got from the company after writing a letter expressing how uneasy he felt about their support for the legislation. “My heart was broken. I’ve used them for years,” the reddit poster who would only give his first name "Fred" told FoxNews.com. Fred claimed to have already transferred 51 domains to another registry. “I didn’t like the generic letter they sent back to me so I posted a call to boycott. I didn’t know it would catch on the way it did,” he said. GoDaddy did not respond to repeated emails and phone calls from FoxNews.com. Fred, who goes by the handle SelfProdigy, says since posting, he’s received hundreds of emails from people asking for help in transferring domains, which can normally be a tricky process. “No one is against fighting piracy, but not at the hand of smashing innovation,” he said. Hopefully the message has already gotten to Washington,” Schaaf said. “I hope people can come up with other ways to fight piracy.”
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