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Retirement is the only way LeBeau will leave there. I could easily see ownership overruling any attempt by anyone to fire him (not that that would ever happen).
Wasn't he going to retire this year? I really thought so.
I grew up living next door to his aunt, Miriam LeBeau. As a kid, I used to do her yard work, so I got to know the family a little. His mom lived to 96 and his aunt lived well into her late 90's, so Dick probably has a few more good years in him if he decides to stay.
Sad part is that I saw him a few times growing up and never knew he was a player or a coach...
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Well the snippet from the article said some coaches were considering retirement, so I wasn't saying they would fire him. However I doubt he retires either, but we can hope  
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Strange, he'll only be 60-years-old this year. He was awful as our coordinator, but with the Steelers he seems to know what he is doing. I'll be interested to see who they hire now, knowing them, probably someone from within the organization.
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Strange, he'll only be 60-years-old this year. He was awful as our coordinator, but with the Steelers he seems to know what he is doing. I'll be interested to see who they hire now, knowing them, probably someone from within the organization.
well, he did survive Prostate Cancer before so maybe he's thinking he's gotta take care of himself nowadays.., who knows
As for him being a bad OC here.. I don't know if it was him so much as it was the talent we had and his meglomanical boss he had at the time.. don't suppose we'll ever know except that when he left here, he went to Pittsburgh, later became thier OC, had a good talent pool and a coach that didn't ride him like an old mule...
I think it's safe to say he's well thought of in Pittsburgh..
So you can make of that what you will
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IMO, it wasn't him being the OC that produced the offense they have, I think he got lucky when they got Ben. He is ridiculed a lot around here, here being the Pittsburgh area. He changed what the Steelers offense was always about. He loves to throw the ball. If they would have been saddled with a mediocre QB, I think he would have been gone a long time ago.
The thing is Ben carries their offense, the way Bettis did before him. Arians, IMO was the same coordinator he was here, just with a very good QB, and no reason to expect to be fired every year.
The story here, will be if Tomlin, who has not had to hire anybody, can find a replacement. I think Arians sees that the team is aging, and some rebuilding is coming sooner or later. He joined at a great time and IMO is getting out before the run comes to an end.
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And, another story will be that we're now competing with a division rival for an offensive coordinator. However, considering the types of offenses we run (Pittsburgh has one that actually scores, we have one that sets up punts and long FGs), we're probably not going to be fishing in the same pond.
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The Steelers do a darn fine job with thier draft and they are replacing aged vets with younger guys every year.Sorry for us,as long as they have Ben,they'll be a team that has to be in the conservation come playoff time.
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they'll be a team that has to be in the conservation come playoff time.
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Are they going green  Just ribbing you.
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Just to add, whoever the Steelers hire, I can almost gaurantee you that they will have to be willing to stick with the schemes and programs already implemented. One thing the Steelers don't do is change their philosophy much.
Arians was an exception to this. I can't think of any other coach in Steeler history that change their core philosophy like he did. Pittsburgh has become a pass first team because of Arians and Ben's ability. Most Steeler fans I know, and that is way too many, hated Arians even when they were winning the superbowl. He went away from their traditional pound it out offense that had been around for decades.
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And, another story will be that we're now competing with a division rival for an offensive coordinator. However, considering the types of offenses we run (Pittsburgh has one that actually scores, we have one that sets up punts and long FGs), we're probably not going to be fishing in the same pond.
I was thinking the same thing we are fishing in the kiddy pool for tadpoles while they are fishing in the Ocean for Great White Sharks
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And, another story will be that we're now competing with a division rival for an offensive coordinator. However, considering the types of offenses we run (Pittsburgh has one that actually scores, we have one that sets up punts and long FGs), we're probably not going to be fishing in the same pond.
I was thinking the same thing we are fishing in the kiddy pool for tadpoles while they are fishing in the Ocean for Great White Sharks
I have no idea why you and Brownsfan are saying these things. is it an attempt to be "jim romeish"
two different types of offensive plans.., two different pools of potential OC's
They aren't going to be in the running for Mike sherman or Clements..
we should be..
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Brian Daboll?
just sayin...it worked for em last time
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Ha,, wouldn't that be something...
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And I wonder what people would say if they then went to another Super Bowl? 
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English major huh?
As I was writing that I was staring at a half empty(or half full,depending on one's point of view) bottle of tequila and having a coversation with myeslf about being conservative,or drunk.
I had no idesa I am so liberal minded.
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And I wonder what people would say if they then went to another Super Bowl?
" After 30 years of the Browns kicking are asses..We finally got to a Super Bowl "
Maybe I didn't word that correctly.
I wonder what people would say if the Steelers (who have gone to what ... 2 Super Bowls with Bruce Arians as OC) hired Brain Daboll and then won another Super Bowl with him as their OC?
They could keep picking up "failed" former Browns coordinators and make them into Super Bowl coordinators. I swear, I think they do it just to spite us.
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I knew what you meant Y... I was just avoiding the thought of it... That would be a dagger in our pride...
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I would be more worried about Rob Chudzinski going to Pittsburgh and winning Titles as a failed Browns OC then anyone atm.
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Ah, I see.
All we need to do is to find a franchise QB and turn around this tradition of losing. Hell, the Steelers did it and have maintained it for decades now. if they could do it, so can we. We just need to finally start looking at what successful teams do and fit those things to our team.
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He's going to win his titles as OC in Carolina.
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And, another story will be that we're now competing with a division rival for an offensive coordinator. However, considering the types of offenses we run (Pittsburgh has one that actually scores, we have one that sets up punts and long FGs), we're probably not going to be fishing in the same pond.
I was thinking the same thing we are fishing in the kiddy pool for tadpoles while they are fishing in the Ocean for Great White Sharks
I have no idea why you and Brownsfan are saying these things. is it an attempt to be "jim romeish"
Probably because some people think this WCO or NCO or whatever it is crap.
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What's the difference?
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12? Or is it 4. 4 is my favorite number - so is the difference 4?
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You sure: Cause 4 is a good number.
4 is a good number...roll with it Arch.
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I like 7 better as well 
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LeBeau is having a blast with his job. And has been in the NFL mainly all of his life almost. He is still having fun so let him have fun.
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http://www.10tv.com/content/stories/2012/01/20/indianapolis-tressel-interviews-with-colts.htmlSources: Tressel Gets Second Interview With Colts INDIANAPOLIS - Former Ohio State head football coach Jim Tressel interviewed with the Indianapolis Colts on Friday. This is Tressel’s second interview for the head coaching position with the Colts Owner Jim Irsay, 10TV Sports’ Beau Bishop reported. Tressel was asked to step down as Ohio State football coach in May for his role in a scandal involving some of his players selling some football memorabilia for tattoos.
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Was Ariens awful or the brain dead QB he was stuck with?
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What's the difference?
The sarcastic comment is the difference
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j/c.... Bruce Arians had kept quiet after his departure from the Pittsburgh Steelers -- but not any more. Arians opened up to the York Daily Record about how his time on the Steelers' staff ended with his announced retirement last week. NFL Network insider Jason La Canfora cited a league source in reporting last week that Arians was told his contract wouldn't be renewed this offseason. Though Arians, 59, told the Daily Record that retirement had been on his mind, he said the Steelers' decision pushed him in that direction. "When I wasn't offered a contract, it was an easy decision for me," Arians said. Arians said he was told he wasn't wanted back for a sixth season, but Steelers president Art Rooney II didn't give him a reason why. "I can't answer that question," Arians said. "Only the people there can. That's the business. I know the job we did as a staff. I don't have any regrets." Arians also didn't rule out a return to coaching. League sources told La Canfora on Monday that Arians has been in contact with teams about possible positions, one of which being the Arizona Cardinals' quarterbacks coach job. linkI look at this as thou the Steelers are not going to put up with the..." I might retire..I might not "....
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Former Pittsburgh Steelers offensive coordinator Bruce Arians said he decided to retire only after the team declined to give him a contract offer and that quarterback Ben Roethlisberger was unhappy with the team's decision.
While he maintains he had considered retiring before, "when I wasn't offered a contract, it was an easy decision for me," he told the York Daily Record.
Team sources had told ESPN senior NFL analyst Chris Mortensen on Sunday that the Steelers let Arians' contract expire against the wishes of Roethlisberger. The sources said Steelers president Art Rooney II wants the team to regain its blue-collar identity on offense.
Arians said Rooney II called him about the team's decision to let his contract expire.
So, what was the Steelers' reason? "I can't answer that question," Arians said. "Only the people there can. That's the business. I know the job we did as a staff. I don't have any regrets."
Arians confirmed that Roethlisberger didn't take the news well. He publicly campaigned to keep Arians after the 2009 season when it looked like the coordinator's job was in jeopardy.
"He's not happy, but that's part of the business," Arians said, adding that he and Roethlisberger are neighbors. "He is happy for me."
Arians hasn't ruled out a return to coaching. He said he's been contacted by "five or six" new coaching job possibilities since being let go by the Steelers, although only one was intriguing. He declined to get into specifics.
Arians, 59, has been the only offensive coordinator in coach Mike Tomlin's five seasons with the Steelers. During his time as coordinator, he turned the Steelers from a run-first team to a pass-heavy one to better suit Roethlisberger.
Pittsburgh ranked in the top half of the NFL in offense over the past three seasons but finished a disappointing 12th this past season.
The Steelers have a history of promoting from within at offensive coordinator. Arians joined the Steelers in 2004 as the wide receivers coach and was promoted to offensive coordinator in 2007.
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He's coming back to Cleveland. How much more clearly could he have said it?
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It just doesn't seem like it's been that long since he was here.
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He's coming back to Cleveland. How much more clearly could he have said it?
Well, now that we see what he can do with talent,, maybe it's not the worst Idea? 
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He's coming back to Cleveland. How much more clearly could he have said it?
Well, now that we see what he can do with talent,, maybe it's not the worst Idea?
But everyone keeps telling me that we don't have talent on offense.  
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Could you imagine him going to Baltimore...? Probably the most intriguing....
Develop a young strong armed QB with real weapons on offense and a tough yet aging defense in the AFCNorth? It fits the profile especially if they lose Cam Cameron.... which is expected.
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