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By "4-12" do you really mean "10-6"?
It would appear that I was, uh, wrong. 
To you, Arps, Ytown, and Cap - and anyone else - my bad.
I am guilty of screwing up.
Mea Culpa.
Sorry for screwing up and doing a terrible job of looking up the record.
Egg on face.
Eating crow right now.
And, I'll end with an "Oops - I was wrong."
arch - just pokin a little fun at ya, that's all. i've been there many a time. No offense meant.
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And I took not 1 bit of offense from anything you, or they, said. Not at all.
I'm embarrassed - but that doesn't matter.
I was wrong. My statement was not an opinion - my statement was what I thought was fact. I screwed up.
On a side note - egg and crow for breakfast isn't that bad I guess.
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Peyton Manning “very encouraged” with rehab, plans to play in 2012 Posted by Evan Silva on January 31, 2012, 3:29 PM EST ESPN aired an “exclusive” interview with Colts quarterback Peyton Manning on Tuesday afternoon. During the first part of the conversation — the interview will apparently air in separate parts — Manning confirmed to Trey Wingo that he plans to play football in 2012. “Doctors and I have been in good, constant communication,” said Manning. “And I’m very encouraged by what they’ve said. Everything’s right on point, I’ll be cleared and ready to play.” Unfazed by reports that his playing days are over, Manning is continuing his rehab process with full intentions of continuing his career. After Part One of the Wingo interview, Adam Schefter suggested on ESPN’s The Insiders program that Manning is destined to become “the most decorated and high-profile free agent in NFL history.” Link
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Thought he might at least be , you know, a little apologetic, maybe even abashed.  
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We gotta get this guy!
is Peyton more decorated than Favre when he was a FA? and, can you get more high-profile than the constant media blather?
an argument can be made for either at the least.
(originally I thought Montana was a FA to the Chiefs, but looked it up and he was traded at 36yo he still fetched a 1st round pick)
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Peyton Manning has been medically cleared by two doctors, including Dr. Robert Watkins, who performed the most recent surgery on the Indianapolis Colts quarterback's neck, to resume his NFL career, sources told ESPN senior NFL analyst Chris Mortensen and ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.
The sources said Watkins examined Manning recently in Los Angeles and concluded the stability in his neck would have allowed the quarterback to play this Sunday if the nerves in his arm had regenerated to a satisfactory performance level.
Watson also instructed the quarterback to continue an aggressive rehabilitation path that provides an optimistic outlook for Manning to play in 2012. Watkins performed Manning's spinal fusion on Sept. 8, and on Dec. 1 declared that the fusion had achieved "firm fixation."
Watkins, according to the sources, joined Colts neurosurgeon Dr. Hank Feuer in clearing Manning to play. One source said that Feuer recently told Manning, "If you were my own son, I'd tell (you) to go play."
In addition to Manning's optimistic words expressed in an interview with ESPN on Tuesday, in which he indicated he plans to resume his playing career, the medical clearance by his two doctors, the sources said, will bolster his determination to play in 2012.
What remains in question is the timeline in which Manning's nerve regeneration to his triceps will improve to the point where he is throwing passes in the manner that helped him win four MVP awards during his 13-year career.
According to one source familiar with Manning's medical review, "It's not a safety issue; it's a performance issue." This source added that Manning is "making progress."
The source said Manning had a throwing session Tuesday with two of his Colts receivers -- Anthony Gonzalez and Blair White -- at an undisclosed location and that Manning has spent numerous recent days throwing to at least one wide receiver, aiming to regain as much strength as possible in his arm.
However, the source said Manning still cannot pinpoint a date when his performance will reach an acceptable level to him. The source alluded that it might take to the one-year anniversary of Manning's May 23rd, 2011 surgery on a bulging disk in his neck.
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Gonna be an interesting Free Agency signing period.
With Tony Dungy now persuaded to believe that the Colts will release Manning and thinks that he will be playing for some other team this year.
I think it's starting to look like it will be the reality.
Does this mean that there will be one less team that might look to trade up to the 2nd or 3rd selection for a QB, making that a less plausible scenario?
I'm thinking that it could and that could strengthen our possibilities too.
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Peyton was throwing at 85% in December .......? I do have to say though ..... this is the difference between pro athletes and the rest of the rational world ....... He's had a serious neck injury ....... 4 surgeries ...... and has enough money to live 4 or 5 lifetimes quite easily on. Despite that, he is going to put his body and future health on the line for one more shot at glory. NFL.com news: Manning threw at 85 percent in December, wanted to play http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82...xt_Email_NL0216INDIANAPOLIS -- Plenty is unknown in Peyton Manning's comeback from neck surgery. The quarterback has been throwing at an up-tempo pace since mid-December, just before his attempt to return for the Indianapolis Colts' final two games finally ended, as SI.com reported Wednesday. Manning threw in a post-practice setting with a group of receivers and running backs Dec. 14 as part of the rehabilitation process. One league source said that to "describe it as a practice is incorrect." The session was scripted by the Colts' strength and conditioning coaches and Manning's rehabilitation coordinator, with then-vice chairman Bill Polian, coach Jim Caldwell and offensive coordinator Clyde Christensen monitoring from the sideline. According to the source, Manning was throwing at about "85 percent" and didn't seem impaired, though the players were constrained to an area inside the 25-yard line so the quarterback wouldn't have to (or be tempted to) make more taxing throws. Four days after the session, Polian announced that Manning wouldn't play at all in the 2011 season. At the time, Polian said Manning hadn't "come far enough to make it prudent for him to step on the field in game action." Doctors consistently told Colts officials to be careful in charting Manning's progress throwing the ball, especially after that work in December. The doctors maintained that while Manning's neck issue had cleared up, the problem with nerve regeneration remained, and there wasn't a timetable for recovery in that area.
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I think what some people fail to realize is that it's not about his neck anymore really. His neck is stronger than a regular persons (due to the fusion surgery)
It's about the nerves regenerating to where he has the ability to throw the football at an effective rate...
HOWEVER...
There was talk today that he made need another surgery down the road due to bone spurs, which is a little unwelcoming...
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Yep, Peyton Manning may have to deal with bone spurs sometime in the future. There is no earth shattering news here but rather an attempt by someone with Colts to leak confidential information from Peyton's medical files. This Irsay's lame attempt at showing just cause for doing what everyone knows he already decided to do, months ago...dump Peyton Manning for the shinny new Luck boy.
Irsay should just man up and tell the truth about his willingness to dump Peyton Manning.
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Bone Spur
Topic Overview
What is a bone spur?
A bone spur (osteophyte) is a bony growth formed on normal bone. Most people think of something sharp when they think of a "spur," but a bone spur is just extra bone. It’s usually smooth, but it can cause wear and tear or pain if it presses or rubs on other bones or soft tissues such as ligaments, tendons, or nerves in the body. Common places for bone spurs include the spine, shoulders, hands, hips, knees, and feet.
What causes bone spurs?
A bone spur forms as the body tries to repair itself by building extra bone. It generally forms in response to pressure, rubbing, or stress that continues over a long period of time.
Some bone spurs form as part of the aging process. As we age, the slippery tissue called cartilage that covers the ends of the bones within joints breaks down and eventually wears away (osteoarthritis). Also, the discs that provide cushioning between the bones of the spine may break down with age. Over time, this leads to pain and swelling and, in some cases, bone spurs forming along the edges of the joint. Bone spurs due to aging are especially common in the joints of the spine and feet.
Bone spurs also form in the feet in response to tight ligaments, to activities such as dancing and running that put stress on the feet, and to pressure from being overweight or from poorly fitting shoes. For example, the long ligament on the bottom of the foot (plantar fascia) can become stressed or tight and pull on the heel, causing the ligament to become inflamed (plantar fasciitis). As the bone tries to mend itself, a bone spur can form on the bottom of the heel (known as a "heel spur"). Pressure at the back of the heel from frequently wearing shoes that are too tight can cause a bone spur on the back of the heel. This is sometimes called a "pump bump," because it is often seen in women who wear high heels.
Another common site for bone spurs is the shoulder. Your shoulder joint is able to move in a number of directions due to its complex structure. Over time, the bones, muscles, tendons, and ligaments that make up your shoulder can wear against one another. The muscles that allow you to lift and rotate your arm (called the rotator cuff) start at your shoulder blade and are attached to your upper arm with tendons. As these tendons move through the narrow space between the top of your shoulder and your upper arm, they can rub on the bones. Bone spurs can form in this narrow area that, in turn, pinch the rotator cuff tendons, resulting in irritation, inflammation, stiffness, weakness, pain, and sometimes tearing of the tendon. This condition, rotator cuff disorder commonly occurs with age and/or repetitive use of the shoulder. It is also common in athletes, especially baseball players, and in people such as painters who frequently work with their arms above their heads.
Further Reading:Bone Spur-Credits Bone Spur-References Bone Spur-Related Information Should I have surgery for plantar fasciitis? Spinal Decompression Therapy Corticosteroid injections for plantar fasciitis Physical exam for plantar fasciitis See All Bone Spurs Topics
What are the symptoms?
Many people have bone spurs without ever knowing it, because most bone spurs cause no symptoms. But if the bone spurs are pressing on other bones or tissues or are causing a muscle or tendon to rub, they can break that tissue down over time, causing swelling, pain, and tearing. Bone spurs in the foot can also cause corns and calluses when tissue builds up to provide added padding over the bone spur.
How are bone spurs diagnosed?
A bone spur is usually visible on an X-ray. But since most bone spurs do not cause problems, it would be unusual to take an X-ray just to see whether you have a bone spur. If you had an X-ray to evaluate one of the problems associated with bone spurs, such as arthritis, bone spurs would be visible on that X-ray.
How are they treated?
Bone spurs do not require treatment unless they are causing pain or damaging other tissues. When needed, treatment may be directed at the causes, the symptoms, or the bone spurs themselves.
Treatment directed at the cause of bone spurs may include weight loss to take some pressure off the joints (especially when osteoarthritis or plantar fasciitis is the cause) and stretching the affected area, such as the heel cord and bottom of the foot. Seeing a physical therapist for ultrasound or deep tissue massage may be helpful for plantar fasciitis or shoulder pain.
Treatment directed at symptoms could include rest, ice, stretching, and nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs) such as ibuprofen. Education in how to protect your joints is helpful if you have osteoarthritis. If a bone spur is in your foot, changing footwear or adding padding or a shoe insert such as a heel cup or orthotic may help. If the bone spur is causing corns or calluses, padding the area or wearing different shoes can help. A podiatrist (foot doctor) may be consulted if corns and calluses become a bigger problem. If the bone spur continues to cause symptoms, your doctor may suggest a corticosteroid injection at the painful area to decrease pain and inflammation of the soft tissues next to the bone spur.
Sometimes the bone spurs themselves are treated. Bone spurs can be surgically removed or treated as part of a surgery to repair or replace a joint when osteoarthritis has caused considerable damage and deformity. Examples might include repair of a bunion or heel spur in the foot or removal of small spurs underneath the point of the shoulder.
Further Reading:Bone Spur-Credits Bone Spur-References Bone Spur-Related Information Should I have surgery for plantar fasciitis? Spinal Decompression Therapy Corticosteroid injections for plantar fasciitis Physical exam for plantar fasciitis See All Bone Spurs Topics
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1. Manning reworks contract to $10 million+ escalators, many of them.
2. At the last minute before the draft there is a workout by Manning that leaks onto interwebs
3. Indy trades Luck to Washington or Miami for something disgusting like 1+2+3 2012 and 1+2 2013
4. Indy gets a bunch of good young talent "to surround Manning"
5. Lose first 2-3 games due to "rust"
6. Eek out a win
7. Lose a few more "due to rookies"
8. Manning goes down just after reaching the big 60% playing time escalator in contract
9. Lose rest of games
10. End season at 2-14 get #1 again
11. Barkley ends up on a team with tons of young talent, becomes next dynasty.
Luck has a mediocre carrier because they traded so many picks and free agents cost too much these days.
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I give him points for originality....
Am I the only one that pronounces hyperbole "Hyper-bowl" instead of "hy-per-bo-le"?
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He forgot:
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Peyton Manning, Reggie Wayne could be a package deal Posted by Michael David Smith on February 28, 2012, 1:45 PM EST With all the talk this offseason about where Peyton Manning will go, there hasn’t been a lot of room for talk about where Manning’s favorite receiver over the last few years, Reggie Wayne, will end up. But the answer might be where ever Manning goes. Peter King writes at SI.com today that Manning, Wayne and at least two potential suitor teams would be interested in the possibility of having both players in the same place. Manning will almost certainly become an unrestricted free agent by March 8, when the Colts will have to cut him or play him a $28 million bonus. And Wayne will almost certainly become an unrestricted free agent on March 13: That’s when his current contract expires, and although he says he’d love to finish his career in Indianapolis, he also says he’s heard nothing from the Colts about a new deal. Manning is a creature of habit who likes to run an offense his own way, and although he’s going to have a big adjustment to make no matter where he ends up in 2012, having one of his longtime trusted targets in the mix would make him a little more comfortable. Having Manning and Wayne in the same locker room could make a lot of sense for some team.
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Call me silly ... but this just SCREAMS "Come get us Washington!" To me ...
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If the browns want RGIII, the sooner the skins get out of the bidding war the better off we will be. At the current rumored price, they can have him.
I see Manning going to a team noone is really talking about though- i just don't think Shannahan and him could co-exist. He will try to go to a team that is close, just needs the QB position stabilized. It would be crazy to see him in Houston, playing the Colts twice a year. Not sure how likely that is. Seattle makes alot of sense, especially if Wayne comes along for the ride. San Fran could be an interesting landing spot as well. Heck, he could probably have his choice of the NFC West, minus the rams.
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Peyton Manning’s camp has already heard from 12 teams March 8, 2012, 6:48 AM NFL teams are wasting no time in declaring their interest in free agent quarterback Peyton Manning. Of the NFL’s 32 teams, 12 of them contacted Manning’s representatives in the hours after the Colts made his release official, ESPN’s Adam Schefter reports. Among the teams that have reportedly reached out are the Cardinals, Seahawks, Broncos, Dolphins, Redskins, Titans and Jets. At least five other teams that are keeping their intentions quiet for now have also privately reached out. Manning said there is no favorite because he has had no time to start looking ahead, but that he expects that process to start soon. “I literally have not had one conversation with anyone about these teams,” Manning told reporters upon arriving in Miami. “But now I realize that process has to start. I haven’t thought about teams.” The process will include Manning showing teams that he can throw, perhaps at individual workouts or perhaps at a pro day-style workout that every team is welcome to attend. While Manning said on Wednesday that his throwing is improving, he didn’t say it’s back to where it was before last year’s neck surgeries. So it’s not clear whether he’s ready to throw for teams now. But when he is ready, at least 12 teams want to be there. web page
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if any team wanted him that bad, why wouldn't they just claim him on waivers? Is it just the cap number? If it's so prohibitive that no team can pay that, then why in the world did tom condon agree to that contract?
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if any team wanted him that bad, why wouldn't they just claim him on waivers? Is it just the cap number? If it's so prohibitive that no team can pay that, then why in the world did tom condon agree to that contract?
Sounds like a good contract based on where he was with his health last summer.. sign him a really nice contract but make his ability to play come spring the deciding factor in whether he got the "big money" or not...
I'm also sure the Colts didn't expect, even without Manning, to be drafting first...
In short, it might have been the best deal he could get.
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Any team that claimed him would be responsible for the remainder of his existing contract, which includes the $28 million bonus.
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if he is healthy, then I think a team would actually consider claiming him to make sure they got him.
except that they likely want to run a battery of tests, consult with his doctors, etc. before making such a commitment. and there is not really time to do due diligence with the waiver process.
so, you let him hit FA, you gamble you can convince him to sign, and you don't take the $35mil cap hit ($28mil + $7mil salary for '12). it's a "roster" bonus so it would be on this year's cap not spread out (there are some teams that could just absorb it though).
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Anywhere but Miami will surprise me.
...He has a house there
...He is friends with Dan Marino
...Lebron gave him permission
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...He has a house there
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Just what Miami needs, another team to not go to games to see...
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Posted by Evan Silva on March 8, 2012, 2:23 PM EST
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The Washington Post reported Wednesday that the Redskins would make an “aggressive effort” to sign free agent quarterback Peyton Manning. The feeling would have to be mutual for Manning to actually become a Redskin, of course.
According to Chris Russell of ESPN 980 Washington, it isn’t.
Russell appeared on SportsCenter Thursday and, citing multiple sources, reported that Manning doesn’t want to play in the nation’s capital and has already informed the team.
“A couple of different sources inside the organization have told me that Manning’s camp made it pretty clear to Redskins officials he doesn’t want to come here,” said Russell. “… There’s lots of reasons for that. His brother Eli, the colder weather, the whole situation down in Miami and so on and so forth. But unless that changes — and I’m taking my sources at their word — I don’t think Manning’s coming here to D.C.”
This is the first formal report that Manning doesn’t want to play for the Skins, though that reality has been commonly speculated for the past several weeks.
Russell, who hosts a popular radio show in D.C., believes the Washington fan base would prefer Baylor quarterback Robert Griffin III over Manning, anyway. If Russell’s report is accurate, the fans stands a much better chance to get their wish.
St. Louis and Washington might as well get the deal done now...
Part of me is disappointed (because RG3's so shiny and new and all  ) The other part of me knows this opens the door for a trade down, which always exciting...
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Oh well, I can still hope for the docking of draft picks (or threat of draft pick docking) killing any Washington trade-up.
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Well if colder weather is that big of a problem in DC.. where it's not all that cold by the way... then that must take a couple other teams off the table as well..
In week 16 in late December the Redskins played their final home game and it was 45... that's not that cold.
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I think the threat makes them just try to get the deal done quicker (they won't revoke the trade afterall as it would hurt StL too).
Well, the good news is that this means Miami is going Peyton (likely if he doesn't want cold, then KC is out too, right?), it opens the door for Flynn.
though I know a few on here will not be happy about that.
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Oh well, I can still hope for the docking of draft picks (or threat of draft pick docking) killing any Washington trade-up.
That would have to happen pretty quickly for it to have an effect on any trade possibilities.
Words cannot express how much it would suck to be this close to finally getting a great QB ....... and watching him go star somewhere else. Then we can watch Tannehill struggle here. College QBs with little experience generally struggle mightily in the NFL ...... especially when they don't have great abilities ... and Tannehill doesn't.
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Well, the good news is that this means Miami is going Peyton (likely if he doesn't want cold, then KC is out too, right?), it opens the door for Flynn.
though I know a few on here will not be happy about that.
I could swear that I read when asked about Flynn and some other high profile free agents that he said that is probably not a direction we will go. I know I read something today about the possibility of Flynn and a reply along those lines..
I believe it is Griffin or bust for the Skins, after Manning stated he didn't want to play for them and report's that they are not interested in Flynn.
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I think the threat makes them just try to get the deal done quicker (they won't revoke the trade afterall as it would hurt StL too).
Well, the good news is that this means Miami is going Peyton (likely if he doesn't want cold, then KC is out too, right?), it opens the door for Flynn.
though I know a few on here will not be happy about that.
I could swear that I read when asked about Flynn and some other high profile free agents that he said that is probably not a direction we will go. I know I read something today about the possibility of Flynn and a reply along those lines..
I believe it is Griffin or bust for the Skins, after Manning stated he didn't want to play for them and report's that they are not interested in Flynn.
If you mean Cleveland, they said something to the affect of having a limit to the amount they'd offer him... Basically...
Am I the only one that pronounces hyperbole "Hyper-bowl" instead of "hy-per-bo-le"?
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Supposedly Washington had an interest in Tannehill. Wouldn't that he something ..... if they jumped up to #2 ....... and took Tannehill?
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
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I think the threat makes them just try to get the deal done quicker (they won't revoke the trade afterall as it would hurt StL too).
Well, the good news is that this means Miami is going Peyton (likely if he doesn't want cold, then KC is out too, right?), it opens the door for Flynn.
though I know a few on here will not be happy about that.
I could swear that I read when asked about Flynn and some other high profile free agents that he said that is probably not a direction we will go. I know I read something today about the possibility of Flynn and a reply along those lines..
I believe it is Griffin or bust for the Skins, after Manning stated he didn't want to play for them and report's that they are not interested in Flynn.
http://www.cantonrep.com/browns/x1644239899/Clear-signals-from-Heckert-Manning-no-Flynn-yes
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From Tom Heckert in the press room this morning:
• Peyton Manning is “probably not a direction we’re gonna go.” You didn’t suppose it would be, did you?
• The Browns probably won’t cut any veterans, although Heckert hesitated a bit when the topic of Eric Steinbach came up. Steinbach is one of the most expensive guards in the league and is coming off a season lost to a back injury. Our early sense is that he will be on the 2012 roster.
• The gates are wide open to signing Matt Flynn next week.
As to drafting a quarterback high, Heckert said, “We might do it. We’re not saying that’s the case.”
As to whether Flynn will be in Ohio for a visit after the market opens at 4 p.m. Tuesday, Heckert hesitated and said, “Ummmmmmm.”
It was the proverbial pregnant ummmmmmm.
• The Browns will not pursue Mario Williams. Heckert said that in every way but directly.
The dead giveaway: “We’re not gonna go crazy in free agency. We’re not gonna do it.”
Dead giveaway No. 2: “Personally, I don’t think there is a Reggie White in free agency.”
Mike Holmgren’s Packers made a monster splash in 1993 when they signed White. Heckert said that was a unique deal that had nothing to do with White’s 1992 team, the Eagles, not wanting him.
He said more, but bottom line: “Forget about Williams.”
of course, could be the reporter reading too much into it.
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Supposedly Washington had an interest in Tannehill.
Wouldn't that he something ..... if they jumped up to #2 ....... and took Tannehill?
They would shock the world! , Who knows maybe this whole thing is a smokescreen and both teams covet Tannenhill and are trying to entice the other to trade up to have a clear path for him.
"Going from 4-12 to 6-10 isn't good enough. I believe we are going to be better than that. We're going to be a lot better than that." - Mike Holmgren (3/15/12)
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Then we can watch Tannehill struggle here. College QBs with little experience generally struggle mightily in the NFL ...... especially when they don't have great abilities ..
abilities are just part of the equation....
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J/C This is why those guys make the big bucks....this is one heck of a decision to make. Trade up and RGIII doesn't work out, we're sunk. Don't move up and he studs out, we're sunk while McCoy does his thing. Even if pretty good, he will never be that good. I think human nature rules the day. Unless Homie and Heck see something in RGIII that tells them he is going to bust, they move up. If they don't move up and RGIII starts to star, they will have lost the fan base.....especially if a Colt led Browns hasn't made BIG improvements....I am talking a 10 or 11 win season. Come in at 8-8 and they are out the door. RGIII buys them a few more years at minimum, pretty much no matter the record. This is a pivotal time for the Browns. The decisions made over the next couple of months are going to define whether this team is a contender or a league joke for another 10 years. Let's keep our fingers crossed we make the right decision. 
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