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2a. I simply judge each move indivdually. I know that isn't popular w/most of you.

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I agree that it isn't much of the time. But somebody has to throw out a little objectivity from time to time to keep everybody honest!

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1. I did not neglect Lewis. I clearly stated that RD could spell Lewis and provide insurance in the case that Lewis got hurt.

2. I don't question every move Savage makes. I loved the signing of Steinbach and I really liked the signing of Lewis. I was thrilled we didn't outbid SF for Clements. I loved that he kept Fraley.

2a. I simply judge each move indivdually. I know that isn't popular w/most of you.

3. I was asking questions and stated that I did not have the answers. It was something for people to think about. Not everyone likes to think. That much is obvious. *L*

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1. you asked if Carter makes the team better than Droughns.....which is simply out of context....you just shrugged of the money-argument, which as I showed, can net a starter AND was a big reason why he wasn´t welcome anymore....I wonder why you didn´t respond to that? even considering Droughns as backup to Lewis you should have mentioned the upgrade to Wright/Harrison...because that would be your question THEN (still, cap hit aside): Is Droughns-upgrade as backup RB over Wright (Harrison) worth more than Carter....but you didn´t put it that way....and I can just speculate about your motivation to do so...but imho it´s noz hard to figure out

2a. As I have shown, it´s inappropriate to do so in this case imho....saved cap hit nets us a starter OR 2 backups somewhere else...and FYI I do so too: I didn´t like Savage´s Edwards pick, didn´t like Wilson pick, didn´t like Wright signing, just to name a few

2b. I do so too...as I did with your reply to your thoughts...don´t put me in any boxes, esp. if, as I know, yourself do not like to be put in....your duct is one of the most irrespectabel on this whole board. You´re the 1st one to get touchy when somebody gets personal but you like to diss people around for being homers....that´s not helping much

3. Lol, you´re telling this to a philosophy student....but oh well btw: again you couldn´t hold yourself to diss...
Anyway, I did some thinking and I simply stated that you can´t think about this trade without considering the money...I just stated my opinion without dissing you (except for the Savage part....but that was too obvious since it´s really a meaningless trade), I just thought you neglected the Lewis signing (esp. money wise) and what that means..of course if you started your post emphazising that it´s a "vacuum scenario"....THEN ok....but you didn´t and I wondered why you did since you know your football

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My questions were simply to provoke thought.

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Well, mission accomplished I guess

You tackle hard and I think you can take that back too Vers....we just disagree here, no problem for me No pissing match, just a different point of view...

Even playing devil´s advocate, I do not believe you if you want to tell me you´d be ok with having 8mil in cap hit for both Lewis and Droughns (but I could tell you what you would write here if indeed it were the case ).....instead of having the same amount of money put into Lewis, Carter and (in a scenario) Robaire Smith

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Just clickin; I don't think this was too bad of a deal, considering, the alternative would have been to keep RD and use him as a FB or just release him. We're not as set at WR as some may think. imo not that I'm saying Carter is the end all, be all answer to everything, he's not, but if we get good production out of him then that's all we can expect.

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IMO If all Carter can do is catch the easy pass and fall down with the ball he's a upgrade over the guy who left for the Jags. I'm still scratching my head over the contract Dropcutt got from them. Do the Jags not watch football? All I can figure is they really really needed a punt returner.

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I'm still scratching my head over the contract Dropcutt got from them.

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I wonder how many interceptions he's going to rack up for Byron Leftwich.

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Haha, he didn't help much either. But does anyone remember the play where the ball bounced off of Northcutt's chest and flew into the hands of the defender who took it in for a touchdown? Was that Carolina?

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NEWARK, N.J. -- The New York Giants plan to replace the retired Tiki Barber with two running backs.

At least that's what they have told newcomer Reuben Droughns, who was acquired last week in a trade with Cleveland for receiver Tim Carter.

Brandon Jacobs
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"They said it's definitely going to be a 1-2 punch," Droughns said in a conference call on Monday, shortly after he passed a physical and officially joined the Giants, where he will pair up with Brandon Jacobs.

"Brandon and me will be kind of a pound-it-out running style, so we'll try to wear down the defenses and work together," Droughns said.

The two Super Bowl teams both alternated halfbacks last season. Indianapolis used Dominic Rhodes and Joseph Addai, while Chicago used Thomas Jones and Cedric Benson.

With Jacobs and Droughns, coach Tom Coughlin is going to have a pair of big bodies to run behind fullback Jim Finn. Droughns is 5-foot-11 and 220, small compared to Jacobs, 6-4 and 264.

The two met for the first time on Monday and Droughns, who rushed for more than 1,200 yards in both 2004 and 2005 and 750 last season, was impressed.

"Oh, yeah. He's a big young fella," the seven-year veteran said.

Droughns took the blame for his drop in production last season, but he noted that the Browns' offensive line was ravaged by injuries. Coming to the Giants, he said was a fresh start.

It's so new, it was obvious that he did not want to create waves with Jacobs, the third-year running back who rushed 96 times for 423 yards (4.4 yard average) and nine touchdowns.

"It's not my job," Droughns said when asked if he considered the starting halfback job open. "It's Brandon's, because he was the guy who's here. Brandon's next in line. It's his job to lose, but I'm sure he doesn't want to lose it. It's going to be a good competition in training camp."

There wasn't going to be a competition for the Browns' starting job this season. Droughns realized that last week after former Baltimore Raven Jamal Lewis to a one-year, $3.5 million contract with the Browns.

"I knew my role was slimming down," Droughns said. "Our union had basically fallen apart. They were either going to release me or trade me."

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I have not reread all of the pages of posts... why did the Browns need a WR/Carter?

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Without Carter, the depth chart next season would probably set up as follows...

1. Braylon Edwards
2. Joe Jurivicious
3. Travis Wilson
4. Joshua Cribbs

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