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I don't think it silly to think we trade up for RGIII.

Other teams are going to explore that option.

If QB is deemed a priority, and RGIII is the guy we feel we need, we'll have to trade up.

We have the ammo to do so with that extra 1st round pick.


This isn't about what we want or don't want. It about what we will have to do if RGIII is the player Homie and Heck want.

I don't think RGIII will be there at #4 (depending on what happens in FA and trades before then). With 3 top10 teams vying for the 2nd QB, StL or Minny could very well get a trade down from us, Wash, or Miami.

I also think it's more likely to be Wash than anybody.

Dalton throwing to AJ Green + Blackmon + Gresham?
Possibly picking up Polk (RB-Wash) in the 2nd?
What if they go get Nicks (OG-NO) in FA?

Dear lord no. We don't help a division rival like that. No way.

Not sure where to put this, so I'll put it here.

Pre-Senior Bowl Mock Draft
18th January, 2012 - 12:12 pm
Jeff Risdon/RealGM -

I always like to do a mock before the Senior Bowl, the crown jewel of the workout/all-star circuit, and then do one the day after I leave Mobile. Every coach, scout, and agent is there and it’s the best time--better than the Combine--to get legitimate opinions on prospects, including many that aren’t in the game.

It’s still way too early for any hope of finality or accuracy; team draft boards are still in the formative stages, and many teams are still working on filling out their coaching staffs. This is an early guess as to what might play out.

As always, this represents what I think the given teams would do in the given situations. It does not necessarily reflect what I would do in the same situation.

Round 1

1. Indianapolis Colts: Andre Luck, QB, Stanford. No change necessary, you can carve this in marble and tattoo it on your face.

2. St. Louis Rams: Robert Griffin III, QB, Baylor. RG3 will be the #2 pick, but it won’t be the Rams taking him. They will trade back and take Blackmon, Claiborne, or perhaps Michael Floyd, depending on how far back they drop.

3. Minnesota Vikings: Matt Kalil, T, USC. This pick is also for sale, though Rick Speilman would be wise to keep it and upgrade the OL.

4. Cleveland Browns: Justin Blackmon, WR, Oklahoma State. If they stay put this pick seems likely. The Browns are one of the more active traders on draft day and this year figures to be no exception.

5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Morris Claiborne, CB, LSU. Tampa Bay might lose both starting corners and plays in a division with Brees, Newton, and Ryan. You do the math…

6. Washington Ethnic Slurs: Dre Kirkpatrick, CB, Alabama. It would surprise nobody if the Ethnic Slurs moved up to get RG3, but failing that they could look to shore up the back end of the defense. The recent marijuana charge is no big deal.

7. Jacksonville Jaguars: Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame. Might be a reach, but he will rise during workout season and the Jaguars never shy away from doing their own thing. They have to get Gabbert more weapons.

8. Carolina Panthers: Michael Brockers, DT, LSU. Continuing the youth movement up front with the most dynamic line player in this draft.

9. Miami Dolphins: Luke Kuechly, LB, Boston College. Outstanding tackler that shores up the middle of the field defense. I’ve heard they are scouting the WR class extensively though.

10. Buffalo Bills: Quinton Coples, DE, North Carolina. Big-time boom/bust pass rusher for a team that desperately needs one.

11. Kansas City Chiefs: Riley Reiff, T, Iowa
12. Seattle Seahawks: Nick Perry, DE, USC
13. Arizona Cardinals: Jonathan Martin, T, Stanford
14. Dallas Cowboys: Janoris Jenkins, CB, North Alabama
15. Philadelphia Eagles: Courtney Upshaw, LB, Alabama
16. New York Jets: Alshon Jeffery, WR, South Carolina
17. Cincinnati Bengals (from OAK): Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama
18. San Diego Chargers: Melvin Ingram, DE/OLB, South Carolina
19. Chicago Bears: Dont’a Hightower, LB, Alabama
20. Tennessee Titans: Devon Still, DT, Penn State
21. Cincinnati Bengals: Mark Barron, S, Alabama
22. Cleveland Browns (from ATL): David Decastro, G, Stanford
23. Detroit Lions: Zach Brown, LB, North Carolina
24. Pittsburgh Steelers: Zebrie Sanders, T, Florida State
25. Denver Broncos: Alfonzo Dennard, CB, Nebraska
26. Houston Texans: Kendall Wright, WR, Baylor
27. New England Patriots (from NO): Jerel Worthy, DT, Michigan State
28. Green Bay Packers: Dontari Poe, NT, Memphis
29. New York Giants: Ronnell Lewis, LB, Oklahoma
30. Baltimore Ravens: Peter Konz, C, Wisconsin
31. San Francisco 49ers: Dwight Jones, WR, North Carolina
32. New England Patriots: Chase Minnifield, CB, Virginia

Round 2

33. Indianapolis Colts: Cordy Glenn, G, Georgia
34. St. Louis Rams: Lamar Miller, RB, Miami FL
35. Minnesota Vikings: Fletcher Cox, DT, Mississippi State
36. Cleveland Browns: Dwayne Allen, TE, Clemson
37. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Kelechi Osemele, T/G, Iowa State
38. Washington Ethnic Slurs: Mohammed Sanu, WR, Rutgers
39. Jacksonville Jaguars: Colby Fleener, TE, Stanford
40. Carolina Panthers: Leonard Johnson, CB, Iowa State
41. Miami Dolphins: Ryan Tannehill, QB, Texas A&M
42. Buffalo Bills: Casey Hayward, CB, Vanderbilt
43. Kansas City Chiefs: Michael Brewster, C, Ohio State
44. Seattle Seahawks: Brandon Weeden, QB, Oklahoma State
45. Philadelphia Eagles (from ARI): Mike Adams, T, Ohio State
46. Dallas Cowboys: Bruce Irvin, DE/OLB, West Virginia
47. Philadelphia Eagles: Vontaze Burfict, LB, Arizona State
48. New York Jets: Chris Polk, RB, Washington
49. New England Patriots (from OAK): Vinny Curry, DE, Marshall
50. San Diego Chargers: Brian Quick, WR, Appalachain State
51. Chicago Bears: Robert Turbin, RB, Utah State
52. Tennessee Titans: Keenan Robinson, LB, Texas
53. Cincinnati Bengals: Markelle Martin, S, Oklahoma State
54. Atlanta Falcons: Whitney Mercilus, DE, Illinois
55. Detroit Lions: Ryan Miller, G/T, Colorado
56. Pittsburgh Steelers: Doug Martin, RB, Boise State
57. Denver Broncos: Shawn Prater, CB, Iowa
58. Houston Texans: Lucas Nix, G, Pittsburgh
59. New Orleans Saints: AJ Jenkins, WR, Illinois
60. Green Bay Packers: Jared Crick, DE, Nebraska
61. New York Giants: James Michael Johnson, LB, Nevada
62. Baltimore Ravens: Sean Spence, LB, Miami FL
63. San Francisco 49ers: Billy Winn, DE, Boise State
64. New England Patriots: Brandon Thompson, DT, Clemson

Round 3

65. Indianapolis Colts: Bernard Pierce, RB, Temple
66. St. Louis Rams: Jamell Fleming, CB, Oklahoma
67. Minnesota Vikings: Amini Silatolu, G, Midwestern State
68. Cleveland Browns: Terence Ganaway, RB Baylor
69. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Travis Lewis LB, Oklahoma
70. Washington Ethnic Slurs: Levy Adcock, T, Oklahoma State
71. Jacksonville Jaguars: David Molk, C, Michigan
72. Chicago Bears (from CAR): Jordan White, WR, Western Michigan
73. Miami Dolphins: Brandon Taylor, S, LSU
74. Buffalo Bills: Orson Charles, TE, Georgia
75. Kansas City Chiefs: Ryan Broyles, WR, Oklahoma
76. Seattle Seahawks: Joe Adams, WR/RS, Arkansas
77. Arizona Cardinals: Devier Posey, WR, Ohio State
78. Dallas Cowboys: George Iloka, S, Boise State
79. Philadelphia Eagles: Ladarius Green, TE, Louisiana Lafayette
80. New York Jets: Matt McCants, T, UAB
81. Oakland Raiders: Used to take Terrelle Pryor
82. San Diego Chargers: Ben Jones, C, Georgia
83. Chicago Bears: Brandon Boykin, CB, Georgia
84. Tennessee Titans: Jermaine Kearse, WR, Washington
85. Cincinnati Bengals: Eric Page, WR, Toledo
86. Atlanta Falcons: David Wilson, RB, Virginia Tech
87. Detroit Lions: Trenton Robinson, S, Michigan State
88. Pittsburgh Steelers: Olivier Vernon, DE, Miami FL
89. Denver Broncos: Trevor Guyton, DE, California
90. Houston Texans: Harrison Smith, S, Notre Dame
91. New Orleans Saints: Dequan Menzie, CB, Alabama
92. Green Bay Packers: Audie Cole, LB, North Carolina State
93. New York Giants: Brock Osweiler, QB, Arizona State
94. Baltimore Ravens: Sergio Kelemente, G, Washington
95. San Francisco 49ers: Stephon Gilmore, DB, South Carolina
96. New England Patriots: Marvin McNutt, WR, Iowa

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Interesting that he has the Browns taking a TE in round 3.

Me too, and if I had read that first, I would have stopped sooner!

Tight End with the round 2 pick? I hope not! That seems one area where we are O.K. why would we use that high of a pick on another TE?

Love that first round.....hate the rest!

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HERE TO, TE in second round, ya stopped reading after that

Watson could have a concussion issue, Moore barely plays and can't stay healthy when he does. Plus he can't block my grandma. Alex Smith is a FA. Its not that big of a reach IMO. I don't think we will draft one though as I think we'll sign John Carlson.

We did draft Jordan Cameron last year, whether he amounts to anything remains to be seen.

Seems the Browns have far to many holes to go TE in the 2nd. I would be O.K. with a guard at 22, particularly if he is as dominant as some here claim.

I would love DeCastro at 22, but I don't see us taking a guard.

I think Heckert is content with Lauvao and Pinkston. I don't agree with that, and it's little more than a guess, but I'd be surprised to see us take a guard early.

Yeah, he may be a dominant player, but I think this draft is going to be focused on "playmakers", at least in the early rounds. QB, WR, DE, LB and DB.

I would put my foot through the TV if we drafted like that. There is little value in those picks, especially based on the needs of the team.

I don't think that Blackmon is the right pick for this team at #4. I think that this is a draft deep in WR talent, and that we can get a high end WR later in the 1st, or in the 2nd. My preferred choice is well known, but if he is not available to us, I would probably take Claiborne and finish the CB position for the next decade or so.

No way do I see Heckert going Guard in the 1st round, unless that Guard can move to RT and have a long, successful career there. Since that rarely happens, and the reverse is more often true, then I don't see us going Guard early on.

A TE in the 2nd would be absolutely idiotic. We have a guy who is a fairly well rounded guy in Smith, and a pair of decent receiving types in Cameron and Moore. I don't see us going TE to add a 4th or 5th guy to the equation when we have screaming needs elsewhere, even on defense where we desperately need DE and OLB help more than a TE right now.

I would probably look at either Kendall Wright or Zach Brown at 22. I don't see a Guard, even a good one, as making the best impact for the team there.

In the 2nd, I could see us going with Sanu if we go with Brown at 22. That might be a nice twosome that could make a big impact for the team. That would probably be my ideal draft if "You Know Who" were to drop to us at #4. The idea of RG3, Zach Brown, and Mohammed Sanu in the first 2 rounds would make me quite, quite happy.


Ganaway seems like an AFCN type RB, but I'm not sure that he's going to go to us in the 3rd. I don't see much in the way of receiving ability on his resume. I think that's a must for any back we bring in to work in the WCO. Who knows though ..... he does seem to have good power and burst, if not top end speed.

Isn't it funny how the whole draft debate hangs on one thing.. what does the FO think of McCoy... Until we find out the answer to that... which isn't going to happen unless we sign Flynn or hear the words "With the 4th pick in the NFL draft, the Cleveland Browns select.... " it's all pretty much a crap shoot.

Good place to put this. I'm in a forum mock (think Django does every year). I do a few every year, and I'm loving this one.

4. Morris Claiborne, CB, LSU
22. Alshon Jeffery, WR, South Carolina
36. Ryan Tannehill, QB, Texas A&M
68. Chris Polk, RB, Washington

Jordan Cameron ...He sure looked slow with the little playing time he got !

Deep, what are your thoughts on Jeffrey? I thought he kind of dropped off this year?

The problem really is that Shurmur doesn't know how to use the weapons that we have on this team.

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I have been saying that all season long !

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I go back and forth on Jeffery. I think he's very boom or bust. He has the best hands/catching ability in the draft and is a really smooth player. If he weighs in at a decent weight and looks good, I'll be on board. If he looks like crap, he comes off my draft board.

After his sophmore year I thought he was going to be amazing. He comes in this year and SC has had all kinds of QB issues plus weight issues. Then he gets kicked out of his bowl game (granted he had a good game until that point). My main concern is his between his ears. I still like him as a prospect and think in the pro setting they can get the most out of him physically but I wonder if he'll be into the game mentally on a 4-10 team late in the season.

I try really hard not to be a Blackmon hater but I just see Crabbtree with him, or as you have pointed out Boldin. I don't want Boldin at #4 in the draft. Later in the first round sure but at the top of the draft I want top WR potential and I just don't see it with Blackmon. I know its not the popular opinion on this board.

Mel Kiper's first mock draft 1.0 has us taking:

4 Robert Griffin III
22 Kendall Wright

He got 3 and 22 right last year.

Wouldn't it be bizarre if he got 4 and 22 right this year .... or if we somehow traded up one spot to 3 and he then wound up getting our 3 and 22 picks right? lol

Here is my 4 round mock:

1a: Robert Griffin III - QB - Baylor
1b: Michael Floyd - WR - Notre Dame
2: Vinny Curry - DE - Marshall
3: Ryan Broyles - WR - Oklahoma
4a: Sean Spence - LB - Miami
4b: Bernard Pierce - HB - Temple


Broyles could fall b/c of his injury, but adding he and Floyd would be just what we need on offense..

Turk, if you do your mock for all teams, at least the 1st round, then I am curious as to which WR you have off the board when you have the Browns taking Floyd.

I don't see us taking 2 WR in this draft, but other than that I like the first 2 rounds. Curry would be a bigger DE with pass rush skills to play opposite Sheard. I definitely like the 2 1st round picks. I would rather look at a RT candidate with the 3rd than a second WR. (who I feel we would be better off finding in free agency)