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You know the Browns are far from finalizing a draft board...Why a




Actually, Heckert himself says his board is pretty closed to finalized by the end of January or so (after the meetings).

I think in general Teams big boards are finalized, and then the information that is on them slowly diffuses (through leaks etc.) to the draft experts and starts to close in on the consensus board as well.




Exactly.

The board is posted. Right now.

It'll get tweeked as they conduct interviews most importantly. But the work is almost completely done right now.

If you went into the right room in Berea you'd see it posted. Steve Doerschuk with the Canton Rep has seen it.

If you see him, tackle him. And tell him to spill the beans.

btw....

How much fun would it be to spend the week leading up to the draft in Berea in this draft meetings? Maybe I'll pitch them a documentary to do just that!




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yeah lol i heard 1 interview with Heckert and he said the board is set just some tweeking here and there but its set. The also asked if they would ever let a fan into to the war room if they didnt have any access to the outside world and he said UMM NO. lol


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I like Upshaw as a Mike prospect. Good lateral quickness and he appears to have good instincts for the ball.




Thanks for bringing that up. I meant to include MLB as an option. I think he could be that thumper in the middle of a run defense and could be a good blitzer from that position too. With DQ moving to the Weakside OLB (different discussion) that could really beef up our run defense. Question is how does he handle dropping back and covering the middle of the field on passing downs. He would remind me of Earl Holmes (was that the guy we picked up from Pittsburgh when Butch was HC).


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Actually, Heckert himself says his board is pretty closed to finalized by the end of January or so (after the meetings).

I think in general Teams big boards are finalized, and then the information that is on them slowly diffuses (through leaks etc.) to the draft experts and starts to close in on the consensus board as well.




I think I might tweek my Browns board a little, but I still like the prospects in my one and only 'Browns Mock Draft'

Browns mock version 0.00

#1-4)

Justin Blackmon, Wide Receiver, Oklahoma State

#1b-22)

Melvin Ingram, 
Defensive end, South Carolina 

#2-37)

Nick Foles, Quarterback, Arizona (if we don't sign one in free agency prior to the draft) if we do draft or sign a QB then;

Chris Polk, Runningback Washington 

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Keenan Robinson, Linebacker,  Texas

#4a-100)

Kheeston Randall, Devensive Tackle, Texas   

#4b)

Tony Bergstrom, Offensive Tackle, Utah

#5)

Mychal Kendricks, Linebacker, California  

#6)

DeQuan Menzie, Cornerback, Alabama

#7)

Jordan White, Wide Receiver, Western Michigan.


Of coarse like many of you this is but a hand full of prospects that I covet.


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Jordan White, Wide Receiver, Western Michigan.





I'd love Jordan White with a 7th round pick. 6th round pick too.

But I have serious doubts there's any way that guy falls that far. With his production this year, he has scouts all over him. I'm thinking he'll go 4th to 5th round.

The guy competes and is a good player. My only question about him is how athletic is he? I just don't know if he can get the separation needed that an NFL WR needs to get.

Of course some guys can be very productive in college and drop hardcore in the draft. I just don't think Jordan White, the Broncos' main target, who made their season so successful, is gonna be available in the 7th. Love to have him though


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Jordan White, Wide Receiver, Western Michigan.





I'd love Jordan White with a 7th round pick. 6th round pick too.

But I have serious doubts there's any way that guy falls that far. With his production this year, he has scouts all over him. I'm thinking he'll go 4th to 5th round.

The guy competes and is a good player. My only question about him is how athletic is he? I just don't know if he can get the separation needed that an NFL WR needs to get.

Of course some guys can be very productive in college and drop hardcore in the draft. I just don't think Jordan White, the Broncos' main target, who made their season so successful, is gonna be available in the 7th. Love to have him though




He could go higher, but like I said this is my one and only mock draft (I failed to date my notes) and regardless of where they eventually are selected ... I still like them as prospects.


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Jeff Risdon thinks we land Fylnn and pair him with Blackmon. Tannehill to the Redskins at #6 stood out to me.


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Jeff Risdon thinks we land Fylnn and pair him with Blackmon. Tannehill to the Redskins at #6 stood out to me.


Yeah but he also has us taking safety at 22 and 37?


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He does state that he picks player to draft spot not player to team. I think that's a total cop out, might as well just have a player ranker then.


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OK, so it's GBN report and they're ridiculous. click away if you're not interested.

http://www.gbnreport.com/2012projection.html

2012 3-ROUND PROJECTION


Februay 2, 2012
F  indicates poisition(s) TBD by coin flip
* Indicates underclassman
P indicates projected trade

First round

Team Player POS School
1 Indianapolis *Andrew Luck QB Stanford
2P Washington (from St. Louis) *Robert Griffin QB Baylor
3 Minnesota *Matt Kalil OT Southern California
4 Cleveland *Justin Blackmon WR Oklahoma State
5 Tampa Bay *Trent Richardson RB Alabama
6P St. Louis (from Washington) *Morris Claiborne CB LSU
7 Jacksonville Quinton Coples DE North Carolina
8/9F Miami *Riley Reiff OT Iowa
8/9F Carolina *Michael Brockers DT LSU
10 Buffalo Devon Still DT Penn State
11/12F Kansas City *Jonathan Martin OT Stanford
11/12F Seattle Kendall Wright WR Baylor
13 Arizona *David DeCastro OG Stanford
14 Dallas *Dre Kirkpatrick CB Alabama
15 Philadelphia Michael Floyd WR Notre Dame
16 NY Jets Courtney Upshaw LB Alabama
17 Cincinnati (from Oakland) Melvin Ingram DE South Carolina
18 San Diego *Nick Perry LB Southern California
19 Chicago *Alshon Jeffrey WR South Carolina
20 Tennessee *Whitney Mercilus DE Illinois
21 Cincinnati Cordy Glenn OG Georgia
22 Cleveland (from Atlanta) Ryan Tannehill QB Texas A&M
23 Detroit Mike Adams OT Ohio State
24 Pittsburgh *Dontari Poe NT Memphis
25 Denver *Fletcher Cox DT Mississippi State
26 Houston Janoris Jenkins CB North Alabama
27 New England (from New Orleans) Alfonzo Dennard CB Nebraska
28 Green Bay *Jerel Worthy 5T Michigan State
29 Baltimore Luke Kuechly LB Boston College
30 San Francisco *Mohamed Sanu WR Rutgers
31 New York Giants *Peter Konz C Wisconsin
32 New England *Donta Hightower OLB Alabama

P Washington acquires the 2nd pick overall from St. Louis in exchange for the 6th pick this year as well as Washington's 1st, 3rd and 5th round picks in 2013.

Second round

33 St. Louis *Rueben Randle        WR LSU    
34 Indianapolis Brandon Thompson DT Clemson
35 Minnesota *Stephon Gilmore CB South Carolina
36 Tampa Bay Zach Brown LB North Carolina
37 Cleveland Zebrie Sanders OT Florida State
38 Jacksonville Mark Barron SS Alabama
39 Washington Keleche Osemele OG Iowa State
40F Carolina Andre Branch DE Clemson
41 Buffalo Dwight Jones WR North Carolina
42F Miami Jared Crick 5T Nebraska
43F Seattle *Jayron Hosely CB Virginia Tech
44F Kansas City *David Wilson RB Virginia Tech
45 Dallas Bruce Irvin LB West Virginia
46 Philadelphia *Brandon Washington G/T Miami
47 NY Jets Brandon Weeden QB Oklahoma State
48 New England (from Oakland) Kevin Zeitler OG Wisconsin
49 San Diego Josh Chapman NT Alabama
50 Chicago Chase Minnifield CB Virginia
51 Philadelphia (from Arizona) Vinny Curry DE Marshall
52 Tennessee Brandon Boykin CB Georgia
53 Cincinnati *Lamar Miller RB Miami
54 Detroit *Chris Polk RB Washington
55 Atlanta Cam Johnson DE Virginia
56 Pittsburgh Markelle Martin SS Oklahoma State
57 Denver Dwayne Allen TE Clemson
58 Houston Jairus Wright WR Arkansas
59 New Orleans *Chandler Jones DE Syracuse
60 Green Bay *Jonathan Massaquoi OLB Troy
61 Baltimore Nick Toon WR Wisconsin
62 San Francisco Kendall Reyes 5T UConn
63P New York Giants Trumaine Johnson CB Montana
64P New England Billy Winn 5T Boise State

Third round

65 Indianapolis                                     *Bobbie Massie              OT Mississippi   
66 St. Louis Coby Fleener TE Stanford
67 Minnesota Jeff Fuller WR Texas A&M
68 Cleveland Leonard Johnson CB Iowa State
69 Tampa Bay *Chris Givens WR Wake Forest
70 Washington Antonio Allen SS South Carolina
71 Jacksonville Brian Quick WR Appalachian State
72 Buffalo Matt McCants OT Alabama-Birmingham
73F Miami *Ronnell Lewis LB Oklahoma
74F Chicago (from Carolina) Ryan Miller OG Colorado
75F Kansas City *Orson Charles TE Georgia
76F Seattle *Marcus Forston DT Miami
77 Philadelphia *Vontaze Burfict LB Arizona State
78 NY Jets George Iloka FS Boise State
79 Oakland No pick
80 San Diego Juron Criner WR Arizona
81 Chicago Lavonte David LB Nebraska
82 Arizona Coryell Judie CB Texas A&M
83 Dallas Jaye Howard 5T Florida
84 Tennessee Chris Rainey WR Florida
85 Cincinnati Josh Norman CB Coastal Carolina
86 Atlanta Travis Lewis LB Oklahoma
87 Detroit Bobby Wagner LB Utah State
88 Pittsburgh Jeff Allen G/T Illinois
89 Denver Shaun Prater CB Iowa
90 Houston Mike Martin NT Michigan
91 New Orleans Sean Spence LB Miami
92 Green Bay Mike Brewster C Ohio State
93 Baltimore Ben Jones C Georgia
94 San Francisco *Josh Robinson CB Central Florida
95P New York Giants Malik Jackson DE Tennessee
96P New England Aaron Henry FS Wisconsin


I'd be bummed if that is how it turned out, but not surprised.

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To me that would be a great draft.


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Burlfict and Criner fall to the third . . . ?

But yeah, don't think I'd be unhappy w/ that one.

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Wow! They have no love for Nick Foles.

Most novice can make a pretty good guess/mock of the first round, but I think that not surprisingly they fell off the mark pretty bad after that.

Using their shake out LOL;

I would go with Janoris Jenkins at #22

Zebrie Sanders I wouldn't even consider in the first 3 rounds.

Insert Nick Foles or other name depending on FA.

I have no real issues with our 3rd rounder, but to say there are many more directions we could go there especially those that did not even make their top 3 rounds.


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that's about as bad of a 11-21 lead-in for our needs as could happen. hope it doesn't play out that way.


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Something about that mock just makes me feel icky. Thanks for posting it though.


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Hmm, 1st round is "ok"...a low floor player in the top 5 with Blackmon and then we roll the dice on a QB...I'm ok with that...after that though: UGH

Zebrie Sanders? Really? The one who got beaten all day at SR Bowls practices? Nah, I'll pass...Schwartz played much better and isn't even in the top 95...I'd take him in the 4th over Sanders high 2nd...no brainer, my pick wuld be DE Curry

Johnson is a decent CB and we could have done worse but OLB L.David is excellent value in this scenario

4 WR Blackmon
22 QB Tannehill
37 DE Curry
68 OLB David

looks much better to my eye with high (long term) investments to fix the passing game and 2 value grabs and day 1 ready Front 7 starters to help push this young D from AVG to good by season's end and going into 2013


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I think I'd rather grab the CB Claibourne rather than Blackmon because it sounds like he's the surer pick (but I don't really know). Then grab a WR later, as this class is supposedly pretty deep.


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I think I'd rather grab the CB Claibourne rather than Blackmon because it sounds like he's the surer pick (but I don't really know). Then grab a WR later, as this class is supposedly pretty deep.




You could also make the same argument for taking a CB later, because this pool is deeper in CB's then #1 WR's by a long shot.


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I think I'd rather grab the CB Claibourne rather than Blackmon because it sounds like he's the surer pick (but I don't really know). Then grab a WR later, as this class is supposedly pretty deep.




You could also make the same argument for taking a CB later, because this pool is deeper in CB's then #1 WR's by a long shot.




I'd say it's the exact opposite. One sure-fire cornerback, many No. 1 wide receivers. There is one cornerback I'd take in the first round, four wide receivers.

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You could also make the same argument for taking a CB later, because this pool is deeper in CB's then #1 WR's by a long shot.




I'd say it's the exact opposite. One sure-fire cornerback, many No. 1 wide receivers. There is one cornerback I'd take in the first round, four wide receivers.




I disagree, I see maybe 2 #1 types (Wright is a slot type receiver) and we could see as many as 5 CB's go in the 1st round with plenty of other talented CB's to be had throughout this draft.


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I really think the combines made Claiborne stock soar to those that need a #1 corner. Now we will probably see 4 or 5 corners go to early because the position gets overvalued but Claiborne sitting there at 4 will have tremendous value.

Dennard looked lost at the senior bowl. Jenkins failed to make the easy plays. Kirkpatrick with his drug issues and all should fall out of the first but they wont. I might take Boykin or the kid from Texas A&M over any of those 3 if i were GM.

I think for receivers it is really system specific in this draft for most of these guys and we could see as many 6 go in the first or as few as 2.

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I might take Boykin or the kid from Texas A&M over any of those 3 if i were GM.




And I wouldn't touch Boykin ... he is not physical or as aggressive in tackling as I like my corners to be.

I have seen plenty of Claiborne and he is a fine prospect, but he doesn't make you say Ah! Or wow! you when playing CB or as a return guy. He is steady and has good size, but nothing that jumps out at you in a game. He's won more battles then he lost (at that level), but by know means was he a shut down corner.

I wonder how he would have looked in the Sr. Bowl being asked to do things that he might not have been asked to do at LSU. He would have probably look like the rest of the group (thinking instead of reacting) anyway I would not fault him so much for his mistakes as I would be looking for the things that he was able to show he can do well in the short time they have to be ready to play that game.


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I think I'd rather grab the CB Claibourne rather than Blackmon because it sounds like he's the surer pick (but I don't really know). Then grab a WR later, as this class is supposedly pretty deep.




You could also make the same argument for taking a CB later, because this pool is deeper in CB's then #1 WR's by a long shot.




I'd say it's the exact opposite. One sure-fire cornerback, many No. 1 wide receivers. There is one cornerback I'd take in the first round, four wide receivers.




I disagree, I see maybe 2 #1 types (Wright is a slot type receiver) and we could see as many as 5 CB's go in the 1st round with plenty of other talented CB's to be had throughout this draft.




I doubt five corners go in round one. Dennard is dropping, and everyone after the first three is a reach in the first. He is more than capable of playing on the outside, just like Jeremy Maclin, Mike Wallace, DeSean Jackson and Steve Smith all have.

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I believe that a great pass rush can make average corners look real good, much like a great QB can make average WRs look good.. but in the end, we need a QB/WR duo that scares people so if we don't go QB at 4, I'd go WR if Blackmon is available..


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I think I'd rather grab the CB Claibourne rather than Blackmon because it sounds like he's the surer pick (but I don't really know). Then grab a WR later, as this class is supposedly pretty deep.




You could also make the same argument for taking a CB later, because this pool is deeper in CB's then #1 WR's by a long shot.




I'd say it's the exact opposite. One sure-fire cornerback, many No. 1 wide receivers. There is one cornerback I'd take in the first round, four wide receivers.




I disagree, I see maybe 2 #1 types (Wright is a slot type receiver) and we could see as many as 5 CB's go in the 1st round with plenty of other talented CB's to be had throughout this draft.




I doubt five corners go in round one. Dennard is dropping, and everyone after the first three is a reach in the first. He is more than capable of playing on the outside, just like Jeremy Maclin, Mike Wallace, DeSean Jackson and Steve Smith all have.




And guess what ... Those 5'10" or less came to the League with questions as to (if) they could be more then just a SWR.

Wright will be no different and he may or may not be more then a 3rd wheel, but he still will have that to prove as did those other two guys that you mentioned his size.


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They were questions, but obviously not good ones.

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I believe that a great pass rush can make average corners look real good, much like a great QB can make average WRs look good.. but in the end, we need a QB/WR duo that scares people so if we don't go QB at 4, I'd go WR if Blackmon is available..





I understand your point, but I doubt that would scare anybody if Colt was lobbing the ball.

To me, finding the stud receiver is the last piece of the puzzle. That said, if the draft works out as more sites are projecting and Washington moves up for RG3, Blackmon has to be our pick...assuming we stay there.

Something makes me now think RG3 is our #1 target, but we won't move up to get him. Some have posted articles and argued that isn't Heckerts style to move up, even though he did for Hardesty, and I find myself swayed to think they are correct.

I also think Heck isn't really keen on a receiver with the #4 pick, so I think we will trade down because there are teams who have legit QB's in place who need receiver help. Someone is going to call us up and make a nice offer.

Unlike last year, I don't think we drop 18 spots or whatever it was when Atlanta called....we are going to want to stay in the 10-15 range. At that point we could go any number of ways depending on who was still on the board. QB, back, OL, LB,CB....name it


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They are valid questions with prospects of that size, because those players are the exception and not the rule.


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Valentine's Mock Draft: In Love With Trades
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Jeff Risdon/RealGM - I know the normal protocol dictates that including trades in mock drafts is taboo, but I’m more about living in reality than clinging to antiquated notions. Go ahead and shun me from your Amish clan if you must, but it’s far easier to project trades to get the players in their closer approximate draft slot than it is to have the Rams drafting RG3 and the Panthers drafting Ryan Tannehill.

An asterisk (*) will indicate Jeff-induced trades. I tried to keep them as realistic as possible in terms of compensation.

1. Indianapolis Colts: Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford. New GM Ryan Grigson stands pat and takes the best prospect to come along since Peyton Manning to replace Mr. Manning. To quote Tenacious D, “It’s time to pass the torch!”

2. *Washington Ethnic Slurs (from STL): Robert Griffin III, QB, Baylor. Washington trades #6 overall, #70 overall, and their 2012 1st round pick to move up and take the dynamic Griffin. His ability to make plays outside the pocket makes him invaluable for a team with a struggling offensive line and no real playmakers at receiver…yet.

3. Minnesota Vikings: Matt Kalil, T, USC. I’m not as high as most on Kalil but he certainly represents an upgrade for the Vikings, who started a middling guard at left tackle last year. They got their franchise QB (they hope) in Christian Ponder last year and this draft is about keeping him comfortable and getting him more weapons to throw the ball. Of course the secondary is a hot mess, which could point them towards Morris Claiborne.

4. Cleveland Browns: Justin Blackmon, WR, Oklahoma State. They covet RG3 but won’t mortgage their draft to get him, and it could be a moot point if they aggressively pursue Matt Flynn in free agency--a distinct possibility. No matter who is throwing the ball, Cleveland needs someone who can threaten the defense on the receiving end. Greg Little is a nice start, but Blackmon has the size and attitude to really cause problems for defenses.

5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama. The Bucs currently do not have a running back under contract on their roster. Blount, Graham, Lumpkin, and Madu are all free agents in various states, and although the Bucs have beau coup cap room, don’t expect more than one of them back in 2012. Richardson reminds me a lot of the young Eddie George, a punishing between-the-tackles grinder that has enough giddyup to break it outside. That can be brutally effective against the weak run defenses in the NFC South.

6. *St. Louis Rams (from WAS): Morris Claiborne, CB, LSU. From the earlier trade. Lots of different directions for the Rams to look here, but in this scenario they go for the best cover man in the last two drafts. I suspect they would have strong interest in Richardson if he is still on the board. This pick marks the deviation point at which the elite prospects will be gone, and I doubt the Rams want to fall beyond that mix.

7. Jacksonville Jaguars: Mike Adams, T, Ohio State. Probably higher than you’ll see Adams anywhere else, but guys with his size and athleticism don’t come along every day. He can become a solid left tackle but could make a dominant right tackle, and the Jaguars sorely need someone to take over that spot with Eben Britton’s back problems snuffing his potential. GM Gene Smith has never been shy about sticking to his board no matter what others might think.

8. *Seattle Seahawks (from CAR): Ryan Tannehill, QB, Texas A&M. The Seahawks trade #12 overall, their 4th round pick in 2012, and their 2013 1st round pick to move up and select Tannehill. He might not be ready to start right away, but his long-term ceiling is very high and with all the young talent on the roster Pete Carroll can afford to roll the dice on getting a legit franchise QB. They make the move to get in front of Miami, whom I believe they believe would take Tannehill.

9. Miami Dolphins: Michael Brockers, DT/DE, LSU. With both Philip Merling and Kendall Langford free agents and Randy Starks hitting a walk year, new coach Joe Philbin must infuse some fresh talent and depth along the D-line. Brockers has a chance to be a real impact player, but his bust factor is pretty high.

10. Buffalo Bills: Quentin Coples, DE, North Carolina. GM Buddy Nix struck paydirt with Marcell Dareus last year, and he hopes to pair him with Coples to form a legitimately scary pass rush. Coples has the physical traits of Julius Peppers but doesn’t always play to his potential. I like his ability to play base end and then slide inside for pass rush scenarios.

11. Kansas City Chiefs: Dontari Poe, NT, Memphis. His stock is only going to go up as coaches get more familiar with his game and he strikes awe in workouts. The Chiefs desperately need a legit nose tackle for Romeo Crennel’s defense to work, and Poe is easily the best nose in this draft.

12. *Carolina Panthers (from SEA): Dre Kirkpatrick, CB, Alabama. A big corner is a necessity in a division with the Saints, Falcons, and Bucs and their bevy of sizeable receivers. Kirkpatrick is very physical and comes from Nick Saban’s professional training program at Alabama. Sleeper pick: Devon Still.

13. Arizona Cardinals: Riley Reiff, T, Iowa. It is at this point that I would like to remind readers that these picks represent what I think the teams might do in given situations and do not reflect the choices I would make. That I put that disclaimer here is not a coincidence…

14. Dallas Cowboys: Janoris Jenkins, CB, North Alabama. He has some character flags, but Jerry Jones knowingly overlooked similar drug and domestic violence issues with Michael Irvin and Nate Newton, among others. Bottom line--Jenkins has the talent to be a legit #1 shutdown corner, and Jones knows his team needs one of those very badly. I would not rule out the Cowboys in the RGIII derby.

15. *Houston Texans (from PHI): Kendall Wright, WR, Baylor. Houston trades #26 overall, #90 overall, CB Kareem Jackson, and their 2013 2nd round pick to move up and select Wright, while picking up a 6th round pick as well. He is a blazer in the Mike Wallace mold that can lift the lid off the defense and provide a legit #2 option to Andre Johnson, something that GM Rick Smith has admitted is a major offseason priority.

16. New York Jets: Courtney Upshaw, DE/OLB, Alabama. In the spirit of the Jets always focusing on foiling the Patriots as much as helping themselves, they take the powerful Upshaw, the prototypical elephant pass rusher that Bill Belichick worships but doesn’t have. The Jets don’t have one either and probably need Upshaw’s considerable skills more than the Pats do.

17. Cincinnati Bengals (from OAK): Alfonzo Dennard, CB, Nebraska. He has great size and a pugnacious spirit for a corner. The Bengals didn’t properly replace Johnathan Joseph last year (see ya Pacman Jones!) and are looking to upgrade. Pairing him with Leon Hall gives the Bengals a cornerback duo that is as physical as any in the league.

18. San Diego Chargers: David Decastro, G, Stanford. With Kris Deilman’s status up in the air, and Nick Hardwick’s as well, the Chargers need to focus on the interior OL in a big way. Decastro is the best guard prospect by a fairly wide margin and is ready to start right away. Sleeper pick: Michael Floyd, which is more likely if Vincent Jackson flees the coop.

19. Chicago Bears: Zach Brown, LB, North Carolina. The NFL player Brown most closely resembles is Lance Briggs, arguably the best 4-3 WLB in the league over the past five years. Briggs and Urlacher are both well into their 30s and new GM must infuse the position with some young talent.

20. *Philadelphia Eagles (from TEN): Luke Kuechly, LB, Boston College. Philly trades #26 overall and #51 overall (ARI pick acquired in the Kevin Kolb deal) to Tennessee to move up and select the tackling machine that is Kuechly. Taking a LB so high is against the grain for Andy Reid, but it is very easy to evaluate their disastrous 2011 to inept LB play. The extra picks from trades allow for this sort of aggressiveness.

21. Cincinnati Bengals: Melvin Ingram, DE, South Carolina. Explosive edge rusher is not the most pressing need (WR, S, RB) but Ingram is talented enough to make an exception. The chances on the Bengals packaging their picks and moving up are smaller than New England’s.

22. *Minnesota Vikings (from ATL via CLE): Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame. The Vikings trade #35 overall and their 2012 1st round pick to Cleveland to acquire the right to select Floyd, the best of the big receivers still on the board. He could be the replacement for the one good year of Sidney Rice, hopefully even better. Top 64 picks that are acquired in trades wind up getting traded nearly 40% of the time over the last five years.

23. Detroit Lions: Peter Konz, C, Wisconsin. With Dominic Raiola nearing the end, the Lions opt for the top OL talent on the board. Konz is very big for the current wave of centers, which could enable him to play guard for a year or two. The Lions could use that as well.

24. Pittsburgh Steelers: Cordy Glenn, G/T, Georgia. Glenn is precisely the type of lineman the Steelers love--long, wide, and surly--and he has the versatility to play any spot but center. Seeing as how they have multiple openings up front, his versatility is an added bonus. He has some Leonard Davis to him.

25. Denver Broncos: Devon Still, DT, Penn State. Still is one of those linemen that does all the little things very well but doesn’t make the splashy highlight plays. Sounds like a John Fox player to me, and they need youth all over the defense.

26. *Tennessee Titans (from HOU via PHI): Stephon Gilmore, CB, South Carolina. Gilmore has some flags but also some undeniable man coverage talent. With several free agents in the secondary, he could be a needed addition with his size and moxie. Sleeper pick: Mohamed Sanu.

27. New England Patriots (from NO): Nick Perry, DE/OLB, USC. Adding sizzle to the pass rush is an imperative (among many) to fix their broken defense. Perry has a very high ceiling as a pass rushing specialist, though he is pretty raw for coming from a major program.

28. *Miami Dolphins (from GB): Jonathan Martin, T, Stanford. Miami trades #40 overall and their 4th round pick this year and 3rd round pick next year to move up and take Martin. He has fallen from earlier mock drafts and tape evaluation is not kind to Martin, but still has potential and the Dolphins badly need a right tackle.

29. Baltimore Ravens: Fletcher Cox, DL, Mississippi State. Cox has an unrefined joie de vivre to his game, a bundle of hands and energy with enough size to play either end or tackle in the variable fronts that are the hallmark of the Ravens D. He could wind up much higher than this. Sleeper pick: Cam Johnson.

30. *Carolina Panthers (from SF): Brandon Thompson, DT, Clemson. Carolina trades #42 overall and their 2013 1st round pick to move up and take Thompson. Perhaps the best run-stuffer in the entire draft, the Panthers need more of that to help out their linebackers. GM Marty Hurney has never been shy about dealing premiums for picks.

31. *Oakland Raiders (from NE): Dwayne Allen, TE, Clemson. Oakland trades RB Darren McFadden and their 2013 2nd round pick to New England to jump back into the draft and take something other than a quarterback. Allen fits with the current wave of vertical playmaking tight ends, and the Raiders already have a solid #2 in Kevin Boss. Like Bill Belichick isn’t going to trade at least one of his 1st round picks…

32. New York Giants: Dont’a Hightower, LB, Alabama. This is a gift from Testicles (pronounced test-eh-cleez), the Roman God of Football. The reigning champs get to fill their biggest need, a thumping enforcer in the middle. The Giants already have a nice stable of young LBs but Hightower would immediately top the depth chart.

Round 2
33. St. Louis Rams: Mohamed Sanu, WR, Rutgers
34. Indianapolis Colts: Jerel Worthy, DT, Michigan State
35. *Cleveland Browns (from MIN): Joe Adams, WR, Arkansas
36. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Brandon Boykin, CB, Georgia
37. Cleveland Browns: Mark Barron, S, Alabama
38. Jacksonville Jaguars: Rueben Randle, WR, LSU
39. Washington Ethnic Slurs: Orson Charles, TE, Georgia
40. *Green Bay Packers (from MIA): Cam Johnson, OLB/DE, Virginia
41. Buffalo Bills: Casey Hayward, CB, Vanderbilt
42. *San Francisco 49ers (from CAR): Stephen Hill, WR, Georgia Tech
43. Seattle Seahawks: Doug Martin, RB, Boise State
44. Kansas City Chiefs: Brock Osweiler, QB, Arizona State
45. Dallas Cowboys: Jamell Fleming, CB, Oklahoma
46. Philadelphia Eagles: Whitney Mercilus, DE, Illinois
47. New York Jets: Brandon Weeden, QB, Oklahoma State
48. New England Patriots (from OAK): Chase Minnifield, CB, Virginia
49. San Diego Chargers: Andre Branch, DE/OLB, Clemson
50. Chicago Bears: Trumaine Johnson, CB, Montana
51. *Tennessee Titans (from ARI via PHI): George Iloka, S, Boise State
52. Tennessee Titans: Chris Givens, WR, Wake Forest
53. Cincinnati Bengals: Lamar Miller, RB, Miami FL
54. Detroit Lions: Josh Norman, CB, Coastal Carolina
55. Atlanta Falcons: Chandler Jones, DE, Syracuse
56. Pittsburgh Steelers: David Wilson, RB, Virginia Tech
57. Denver Broncos: Leonard Johnson, CB, Iowa State
58. Houston Texans: Alameda Ta’Amu, DT, Washington
59. New Orleans Saints: Bobby Wagner, LB, Utah State
60. Green Bay Packers: Kendall Reyes, DE, UConn
61. Baltimore Ravens: Brandon Washington, G, Miami FL
62. San Francisco 49ers: Dwight Bill Bentley, CB, Louisiana-Lafayette
63. New England Patriots: Markelle Martin, S, Oklahoma State
64. New York Giants: Kelechi Osemele, G/T, Iowa State

Round 3
65. Indianapolis Colts: Eric Page, WR, Toledo
66. St. Louis Rams: Bobby Massie, T, Ole Miss
67. Minnesota Vikings: Coryell Judie, CB, Texas A&M
68. Cleveland Browns: Vinny Curry, DE, Marshall
69. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Colby Fleener, TE, Stanford
70. *St. Louis Rams (from WAS): Marvin McNutt, WR, Iowa
71. Jacksonville Jaguars: Brian Quick, WR, Appalachian State
72. Buffalo Bills: Mitchell Schwartz, T, California
73. Miami Dolphins: Vontaze Burfict, LB, Arizona State
74. Chicago Bears (from CAR): Bernard Pierce, RB, Temple
75. Kansas City Chiefs: Marvin Jones, WR, California
76. Seattle Seahawks: Ronnell Lewis, LB, Oklahoma
77. Philadelphia Eagles: Alshon Jeffery, WR, South Carolina
78. New York Jets: Ronnie Hillman, RB, San Diego State
79. Oakland Raiders--used on Terrelle Pryor in Supplemental Draft
80. San Diego Chargers: Tyrone Crawford, DE, Boise State
81. Chicago Bears: Jarius Wright, WR, Arkansas
82. Arizona Cardinals: Josh Kaddu, LB, Oregon
83. Dallas Cowboys: Kevin Zietler, G, Wisconsin
84. Tennessee Titans: Brandon Brooks, G, Miami OH
85. Cincinnati Bengals: Lavonte David, LB, Nebraska
86. Atlanta Falcons: Ryan Steed, CB, Furman
87. Detroit Lions: Mychael Kendricks, LB, California
88. Pittsburgh Steelers: Chris Polk, RB, Washington
89. Denver Broncos: Nick Foles, QB, Arizona
90. *Philadelphia Eagles (from HOU): Donnie Fletcher, CB, Boston College
91. New Orleans Saints: Harrison Smith, S, Notre Dame
92. Green Bay Packers: Ben Jones, C/G, Georgia
93. Baltimore Ravens: Kirk Cousins, QB, Michigan State
94. San Francisco 49ers: Derek Wolfe, DE, Cincinnati
95. New England Patriots: Juron Criner, WR, Arizona
96. New York Giants: Ladarius Green, TE, Louisiana-Lafayette

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While I would be bummed if we took Barron with Mecilus still available, I'd be ecstatic if that was our draft. Especially getting what is probably a top-12 pick in next year's draft. I thought this was weird, though...

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Greg Little is a nice start, but Blackmon has the size and attitude to really cause problems for defenses.




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The Vikings trade #35 overall and their 2012 1st round pick to Cleveland to acquire the right to select Floyd


at #22

yes please.


not a fan of taking WRs with our top2 picks though.


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I would take Barron over Mercilus...not even close...Mercilus is very raw and not good vs the run...he'd be a 1 dimensional pass rushing RDE for us day 1 (and his pass rush arsenal isn't all that on top of that...he's "raw" there too)...otoh Barron is a day 1 starter lock...he's Ward with better coverage ability...while not a true deep FS I'd be ok with him even at 22...he's a pretty good, all around player and is somewhat underrated among the top 50 guys imho

I LOVE the trade in that mock but yes, Blackmon and Adams are overkill...and Adams is overdrafted anyway...Curry in the 3rd will NEVER happn but is a nice dream

I expect Curry to go no later then pick 40 or so and I expect him to go in round 1 since it's a weak draft for pass rushers and Curry along with Ingram are the only pas rushers that appeal to both 43 and 34 systems, have performed at a high level in both the regular and postseason...Curry can also defend the run

in that scenario I would have mock drafted:

#35 S Barron
#37 DE Curry
# 68 OT Schwartz or OLB L.David


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My picks using that Mock

1. WR J.Blackmon - Oklahoma St.
2a. RB D.Martin - Boise St.
2b. DE A.Branch - Clemson or DE W.Mercilus - Illinois
3. CB S.Prater - Iowa


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Using that mock as a base, I would go

Claiborne
Randle/Quick (I'm undecided)
Then which either I think is the best DE from Mercilus/Branch/Chandler Jones (I'm inclined to go Jones here)
In the 3rd I like Either Quick/LeMichael James/Brandon Brooks.


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I would take Barron over Mercilus...not even close...Mercilus is very raw and not good vs the run...he'd be a 1 dimensional pass rushing RDE for us day 1 (and his pass rush arsenal isn't all that on top of that...he's "raw" there too)...otoh Barron is a day 1 starter lock...he's Ward with better coverage ability...while not a true deep FS I'd be ok with him even at 22...he's a pretty good, all around player and is somewhat underrated among the top 50 guys imho





I do agree, I like Barron, too... but I would like a true centerfielder at FS. I think Ward is a good player when he's on the field.

I get the hesitance on Mercilus, and I may change my viewpoint on him, but I really liked the consistency he showed throughout the year. It's not like he had 5 or 6 sacks against NW Alabama State or something like that then was average the rest of the year. He had production while they were winning and while they were losing. Here's his game log from the year: stats from ESPN

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DATE	OPP	RESULT  	TOT	SOLO	AST	SACK
3-Sep Arkansas State W 33-15 3 3 0 1
10-Sep South Dakota St W 56-3 1 0 1 0
17-Sep Arizona State W 17-14 5 3 2 2
24-Sep Western Mich. W 23-20 4 2 2 1
1-Oct Northwestern W 38-35 6 4 2 1.5
8-Oct @Indiana W 41-20 5 5 0 3
15-Oct Ohio State L 17-7 9 1 8 1.5
22-Oct @Purdue L 21-14 5 3 2 0
29-Oct @Penn State L 10-7 6 1 5 1.5
12-Nov Michigan L 31-14 3 1 2 1
19-Nov Wisconsin L 28-17 2 2 0 1
26-Nov @Minnesota L 27-7 3 1 2 1
31-Dec @UCLA W 20-14 5 2 3 1.5


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Well, that mock has Alshon Jeffery in the 3rd - I'd do backflips and take him if he were still there at 37

but to game the mock:

4 - Claiborne
37 - Randle
39 - Barron
68 - Jeffery

Idealy - I'd probably trade up (next years 2nd) to take Jeffery at the beginning of the third, and would also take Vinny Curry in the early third.


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Taking a SS in the first round is a bit like taking a OC or OG. You might not be able to develop one, but their draft value is overall about the same..

I would be surprised to see him taken before the 21st selection. Playoff teams are more likely to draft a SS in the first round then a average to poor team with many needs.


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Don't we need a FS?

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