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BABIP is an incomplete stat really. You need to measure it with FB% (fly-ball), LD%(line-drive), and GB%(ground-ball) to get a true measure of if the pitcher is getting luck (or has a great defense behind him) or unlucky (or has the Tigers defense behind him sans Austin Jackson).

The main point was that the BABIP that Verlander had last year is unsustainable even by the greatest pitchers who have ever lived.


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With all due respect to the sabermetrics crowd, most astute fans could have watched Verlander last year and seen that he was basicaly unhittable.

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With all due respect to the sabermetrics crowd, most astute fans could have watched Verlander last year and seen that he was basicaly unhittable.




oh, no doubt. and that shows up as well in sabermetrics (strikes + fouls per pitch, SO/IP, etc.). sabermetrics love when the ball is not put in play because it's guaranteed the hitter cannot do anything good with it.

but, we are past last year now. what we are trying to determine is if he can do it again at the same level. history shows us that it is nearly impossible (Pedro Martinez in the late 90s right after we passed on trading for him is one of the few examples).

maybe it's due to luck, maybe it's due to being nearly impossible to keep such placement so consistently over years, but whatever it is there is a mountain of evidence that Verlander will likely regress a little this year. that's all.


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With that infield, he better strike out around 18 per game. Good as he is, that won't happen, so my guess is you're right - he'll regress.

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With that infield, he better strike out around 18 per game. Good as he is, that won't happen, so my guess is you're right - he'll regress.




especially if they give Inge 2B too.


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They say Fielder is actually a good fielding 1B, but his range has to be pretty limited given his girth. Then you have Cabrera, who is brutal at 3rd, and Peralta with the range of a glacier at SS. Their OF is pretty good, though, and I'd guess Verlander throws more fly balls than grounders.

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you don't have to guess

he is a 40/40/10 guy. 40% on GB and FB, 10% on LD.
also, 10% of his flyballs don't leave the IF (which is pretty good).

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=8700&position=P

scroll down to "Batted Ball"


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Sabermetrics guys never leave their basements, I bet.

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Sabermetrics guys never leave their basements, I bet.






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Indians sign Asdrubal Cabrera through 2014.

http://www.cleveland.com/tribe/index.ssf/2012/04/cleveland_indians_reach_contra.html




2 notes on this:

1. This is 1 year past his arbitration years. So, we get him at least 1 more year than if he left as early as possible.

2. His contract now expires the same year as Jeters. Start the conspiracy theorists.


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It also affords the Indians some protection if he blimps again ...... I guess.


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2. His contract now expires the same year as Jeters. Start the conspiracy theorists.




And also the same year the Lindor is expected to start pushing the big league roster...


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