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But you think your opinion is ALWAYS right just like I do. Therin lays your problem
No, therein lies YOUR problem. I have no problem with me being right....... 
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People do dumb things all the time. Usually dumb things carry consequences. This one is Tony's to own.
And this is what I said in my very first post.
My point has always been that the punishment and the explanation of the punishment just don't ring true.
The PD admits that a columnist would be given more leeway in a matter like this. They say Tony isn't a columnist. What does a columnist do? He gives his/her opinion on things. In 2 of the 3 things that Tony does/did as an employee of the PD he was REQUIRED to give his opinions on things about the Browns. Pretty much a columnist if you ask me.
I've never argued that what he did wasn't dumb or that he shouldn't be punished. I just think that the PD overreacted and most probably kowtowed to the Browns on this matter.
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People do dumb things all the time. Usually dumb things carry consequences. This one is Tony's to own.
And this is what I said in my very first post.
My point has always been that the punishment and the explanation of the punishment just don't ring true.
The PD admits that a columnist would be given more leeway in a matter like this. They say Tony isn't a columnist. What does a columnist do? He gives his/her opinion on things. In 2 of the 3 things that Tony does/did as an employee of the PD he was REQUIRED to give his opinions on things about the Browns. Pretty much a columnist if you ask me.
I've never argued that what he did wasn't dumb or that he shouldn't be punished. I just think that the PD overreacted and most probably kowtowed to the Browns on this matter.
and you are wrong hes a beat reporter not a columnist and as such opinion has nothing to do what what he writes. Not sure about your man love for him but he got exactly what he had coming. You must pay for your mistakes and this is his 2nd stike. You think he should get a stike 3 because you believe in him I think he does not because I dont. You want to read fluff bad things I want to read whats really going on and the only way as a beat reporter is to write what going on not not what you think should be going on.
You just as I can give our opinion on if it was right or wrong but neither of us will be right. WHY because the only ones that matter sign paychecks and they are right even if you feel they are wrong.
If you need 3 years to be a winner you got here 2 years to early. Get it done Browns.
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and you are wrong hes a beat reporter not a columnist
I can't wait for him to call you captain obvious also 
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I can't wait for him to call you captain obvious also
Nope, you have that title all to yourself. It's an honor, really......
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and you are wrong hes a beat reporter not a columnist and as such opinion has nothing to do what what he writes. Not sure about your man love for him but he got exactly what he had coming. You must pay for your mistakes and this is his 2nd stike. You think he should get a stike 3 because you believe in him I think he does not because I dont. You want to read fluff bad things I want to read whats really going on and the only way as a beat reporter is to write what going on not not what you think should be going on.
Well, no, actually I'm not wrong. If I had said the sun was pink, that would be wrong. I stated an opinion which I backed up with a few observations. Your posts and Daman's to a certain extent fall into the "I'm right, you're wrong, I'm plugging my ears now" category. Amusing to read but not really adding anything to the discussion.
As I've said many times I don't expect to change any minds when I post in a thread like this. Guys like you don't like to have their set in stone ideas challenged and tend to get downright nasty when that happens. I've seen it too many times not to expect it. But I also feel that posting a dissenting opinion lets everyone know that things are not always black and white.
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and you are wrong hes a beat reporter not a columnist
I can't wait for him to call you captain obvious also
Now let's see,, I say he's a Beat writer and not a columnist, and you call me captian obvious.. But anyone else says it, and I'M STILL CAPTAIN OBVIOUS and they aren't?
I just wanted to be sure I understood how you mind works....
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I here by promote you to Major !  .. Now you be somebody ..
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I here by promote you to Major ! .. Now you be somebody ..
Cool,, thanks
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But, the PD doesn't consider him a Columnist.. They consider him a Beat Writer.
And that to me, is the end of the story.
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I say he's a Beat writer and not a columnist
See the difference?
The first comment is when I called you CO.
But if it makes you feel better I feel you have earned a promotion. I will now think of you as General Nuisance.
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Great Googly boogly man,, IT WAS A FREAKIN MISPELLING ON THE SECOND ONE
You lose the argument based on fact, the only thing you can pick on now is Spelling
What's next, Grammer? and after that punctuation and then you will start picking on my manner of dress and choice of mouthwash and toothpaste..
what do you mean you don't like the color of my car?
what a joke
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What's next, Grammer?

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Why yes, Kelsey Grammer is next.
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But you think your opinion is ALWAYS right just like I do. Therin lays your problem
No, therein lies YOUR problem. I have no problem with me being right.......
Well then try doing so some time 
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No, (*slaps forehead*) it has nothing to do with GRAMMAR or spelling or your lack of mouthwash. In the first example you restated a fact (that the PD considers him a beat writer, not a columnist) that I had stated in almost every post before that because that point was central to my point that I felt he could be considered columnist. Hence the Captain Obvious moniker. In the second example you changed it to say YOU considered him just a beat writer. Thereby changing the gist of the argument. You see, I can legitimately take issue with what the PD says because I believe they are being disingenuous if not downright dishonest. Taking issue with your opinion is worthless because you are never going to change YOUR opinion. I'll assume your comprehension problems in this matter are because your assistance monkey had the day off...... 
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Well then try doing so some time
It took you 2 days to come up with that? You're slipping..... 
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I cant believe people are still discussing the fact they have disagreeing opinions. Thats about the only thing I do agree with Otto on in this thread he has his I have mine and everyone else has theirs. In the end the only one that counts was the PD's.
I thought I heard they made Mary the new beat reporter the other day?
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Mary Kay was a beat reporter. She took over as Hall of Fame voter.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
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Ok thanks, I knew I heard something. 
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MaryK is a HOF voter?!
Ugh.
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MaryK is a HOF voter?!
Ugh.
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Now that adds credence to the Hall ! 
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Kind of excited that this has gone to 300+ posts even though nothing new has happened in days. Tip of the cap to the those who shall remain nameless in arguing their same case probably 50 times and proving nothing.
Just like to wish Mary Kay good luck in all of her current and future duties.
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Grossi was a HOF voter?
Ugh again.
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Grossi was a HOF voter?
Ugh again.
He is credited as being the single biggest reason that Art Modell is not in the HOF. It was his purpose in life.
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It certainly could make some want to take the label "beat reporter" literally.
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So what you're saying is... he may have been a turd in the punchbowl, but he was our turd in the punchbowl.
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Grossi was a HOF voter?
Ugh again.
He is credited as being the single biggest reason that Art Modell is not in the HOF. It was his purpose in life.
And one reason that he will always have my thanks.
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Kind of excited that this has gone to 300+ posts even though nothing new has happened in days. Tip of the cap to the those who shall remain nameless in arguing their same case probably 50 times and proving nothing.
Thank you. I accept this award in the name of all the little people..... 
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Well then try doing so some time
It took you 2 days to come up with that? You're slipping.....
2 days? Heck it took a week I started working on it last Friday 
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