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Troy Smith signs with Steelers

Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on January 20, 2012, 2:09 PM EST

The Steelers have signed another candidate to play behind Ben Roethlisberger next year.

The team announced they have signed former 49ers quarterback Troy Smith. The Heisman Trophy winner last played in the UFL and was available to be signed because he didn’t finish the year on an NFL roster.

Smith started six games in San Francisco last year, some when Alex Smith was healthy enough to play. A lot changes in a year.

Ed Bouchette of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette has written repeatedly that the Steelers will re-sign Byron Leftwich to back up Roethlisberger next season. Charlie Batch’s gig may finally be up after eight years in Pittsburgh; he was known to have a close relationship with retired Steelers coordinator Bruce Arians.

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STOP TAKING BUCKEYES YOU &^*#$

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A backup in case they can't re-sign Dennis Dixon.

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Troy Smith has just had no luck in his career. Was slated to be the starter in Baltimore and got injured never got his shot. SF was almost a train wreck in the making while singletary was there.
Well hope he does well on the bench but if he gets in games sorry Troy have to root against you now.


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Anyone have a feeling that Ben's replacement will just fall in their laps in the next draft? Like in round 3 or beyond?

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I don't think you see guys of his caliber falling to anyone in the 3rd round or so. Brady was an exception that rarely is repeated.


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Its really gonna suck seeing him beat us...

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Its really gonna suck seeing him beat us...




You realize he was on the Ravens and beat us four times. (And by he I mean not Troy Smith)

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Its really gonna suck seeing him beat us...




Scott Tolzein beat him out for the QB3 spot in SF. I'm not sure he even makes the Pitt roster. He could just be OTA and camp fodder.


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Scott Tolzein beat him out for the QB3 spot in SF. I'm not sure he even makes the Pitt roster. He could just be OTA and camp fodder.




I agree. The love for this guy on this board amazes me. It's as though 32 teams in the NFL have totally missed the boat over the past few years, while our board "experts" see him as a Hall of Famer.


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I havent seen alot posters on this board fawning all over Troy Smith ever. Even when he came out half didnt want him and the others were in the well if hes there with the 4th-7th round we could take a flyer on him bring him home iirc.

Heck I wanted the Cavs to draft Jon Diebler or Lighty only because 2nd round picks are pretty much useless and we had a late 2nd rounder to waste on one of them.
Dont think they will be superstars but thought it would be fun to watch Jon firing from downtown in blowouts or Lighty coming home to Cleveland and get a chance to play in front the hometown fans.

Back on topic I have not seen any we gotta get this guy for Troy Smith when he was cut from SF.just people commenting on him when he moves to a new team.


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I havent seen alot posters on this board fawning all over Troy Smith ever. Even when he came out half didnt want him and the others were in the well if hes there with the 4th-7th round we could take a flyer on him bring him home iirc.

Heck I wanted the Cavs to draft Jon Diebler or Lighty only because 2nd round picks are pretty much useless and we had a late 2nd rounder to waste on one of them.
Dont think they will be superstars but thought it would be fun to watch Jon firing from downtown in blowouts or Lighty coming home to Cleveland and get a chance to play in front the hometown fans.

Back on topic I have not seen any we gotta get this guy for Troy Smith when he was cut from SF.just people commenting on him when he moves to a new team.




I cannot remember who it was on here, not sure he's even here anymore. But man o man, he wanted Smith here and called the management at the time lame for not taking him in the first round.. they thought he was the guy that could take us to the promised land..

You gotta remember, that's the year we drafted Joe Thomas first and then traded with Dallas to get Brady Quinn, Quinn turned out to be a mistake, but Thomas sure as heck wasn't.

can you imagine having Smith but not having thomas?

I wish I could remember who that way...LOL


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They couldn't have been talking about taking Griffin..I mean Smith in the first round could they have?


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Its really gonna suck seeing him beat us...




Scott Tolzein beat him out for the QB3 spot in SF. I'm not sure he even makes the Pitt roster. He could just be OTA and camp fodder.




He was unsigned in January. That means that he wasn't on anyone's roster at the end of the year.

Not exactly a ringing endorsement.


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Some of the Buckeye fans on the old board I was on wanted to take him in the first round.


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They couldn't have been talking about taking Griffin..I mean Smith in the first round could they have?




Not sure what you mean, but yeah, that one person meant they wanted Smith in the first round in 2007


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They can have him... and really who knows if he will be there come the seasons start.

If this is any sign of the guys they are targeting to pick up...then it gives me a sense that we be kicking their Butts come game time...

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Not sure what you mean, but yeah, that one person meant they wanted Smith in the first round in 2007




Is my memory correct in thinking that person's screen name is something you load into a gun?


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That's what i remembered as well


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wow, i'm glad he got another chance in the NFL; he never really got much of a shot, with his illness and joe flacco emerging in baltimore, then getting more or less thrown to the lions in san francisco... obviously he has a ways to go before he has any chance at getting serious playing time, but i wouldn't count him out of supplanting dennis dixon when it's said and done

i wouldn't mind seeing the browns try to go after charlie batch at this point since it seems inevitable now that he becomes a free agent; honestly i think batch might be a top 15 quarterback in the nfl if he wasn't behind ben, and would much prefer him to matt flynn. that way we could also draft a quarterback this year and give them a chance to learn from the sidelines while we have a legitimate starting qb to teach him the tricks of the trade.

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Not sure what you mean, but yeah, that one person meant they wanted Smith in the first round in 2007




Is my memory correct in thinking that person's screen name is something you load into a gun?




Hmm could be.. like I said, I just don't remember.. But you could very well be right...


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i wouldn't mind seeing the browns try to go after charlie batch at this point since it seems inevitable now that he becomes a free agent; honestly i think batch might be a top 15 quarterback in the nfl if he wasn't behind ben, and would much prefer him to matt flynn. that way we could also draft a quarterback this year and give them a chance to learn from the sidelines while we have a legitimate starting qb to teach him the tricks of the trade.




Seriously, Charlie Batch? Top 15? Batch would be 3rd string on our team right now, imo. Troy Smith is an upgrade at backup QB for the Steelers, which should tell you all you need to know about Charlie Batch.

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i wouldn't mind seeing the browns try to go after charlie batch at this point since it seems inevitable now that he becomes a free agent; honestly i think batch might be a top 15 quarterback in the nfl if he wasn't behind ben, and would much prefer him to matt flynn. that way we could also draft a quarterback this year and give them a chance to learn from the sidelines while we have a legitimate starting qb to teach him the tricks of the trade.




Seriously, Charlie Batch? Top 15? Batch would be 3rd string on our team right now, imo. Troy Smith is an upgrade at backup QB for the Steelers, which should tell you all you need to know about Charlie Batch.




I'd say Batch is on par w/ McCoy and Wallace. All 3 are decent 2nd stringers on a GOOD team.

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I might possibly agree on Wallace, if Batch was Wallace's age (31) but the thing is, he's 37 years old. McCoy, imo, has upside potential. I think he can and will be a starter in the league somewhere, if not here.

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i'm curious why you guys seem to think mccoy is a "decent backup for a good team" material; there is a possibility that he has a good understanding of the west coast offense, and he might even be able to make good defensive reads, but what difference does it make when he throws like a little girl

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Saying he throws like a little girl is a compliment.

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i'm curious why you guys seem to think mccoy is a "decent backup for a good team" material; there is a possibility that he has a good understanding of the west coast offense, and he might even be able to make good defensive reads, but what difference does it make when he throws like a little girl





Really...can you throw better...or can your Batch ass boy can ? I would take him as a back up way before your 37 yr old injury prone Batch....


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i think batch might be a top 15 quarterback in the nfl if he wasn't behind ben, and would much prefer him to matt flynn. that way we could also draft a quarterback this year and give them a chance to learn from the sidelines while we have a legitimate starting qb to teach him the tricks of the trade.




Top 15... Legitimate starter ? learn from a loser... ...

WOW !!! Go back to pukesburgh...and take your rings...your screen name makes you out to be a damn Steeler troll....


And don't mention " we could " your not a we... you want the Browns to draft a QB and have Batch teach him...i have to puke now...really !

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I think he may be forgetting that batch had his time in the spot light in Detroit.. and didn't get it done..


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No Daman..his spotlight light was a mini mag...he had a decent year in " 99 " then sucked since then..cause he's a girl and gets hurt when the boys hit her...

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This is quite possibly the dumbest post I have ever seen on any message board in my entire life.

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i never said i wanted to mother charlie batch's children, all i said is he is better than most quarterbacks in this league; colt mccoy can't even throw a spiral 30 yards, so if your only defense is that you are a colt mccoy apologist your opinion is more or less irrelevant to the discussion.

i realize calling him a top 15 quarterback is a bit brash, but i broke down my list of top qbs:

aaron rodgers
tom brady
drew brees
peyton manning (assuming he can play again)
eli manning
matthew stafford
michael vick
philip rivers
cam newton
ben roethlisberger
jay cutler
matt flynn
matt schaub
charlie batch
tim tebow
tony romo
vince young
jason kitna
andy dalton
kyle orton
matt ryan
jason flacco
alex smith
ryan fitzpatrick
mark sanchez
christian ponder
chris kolb
etc.

that puts batch at number 14, somewhere between schaub and tebow... honestly if i were to expand this list mccoy wouldn't crack my top 40

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i never said i wanted to mother charlie batch's children, all i said is he is better than most quarterbacks in this league; colt mccoy can't even throw a spiral 30 yards, so if your only defense is that you are a colt mccoy apologist your opinion is more or less irrelevant to the discussion.

i realize calling him a top 15 quarterback is a bit brash, but i broke down my list of top qbs:

aaron rodgers
tom brady
drew brees
peyton manning (assuming he can play again)
eli manning
matthew stafford
michael vick
philip rivers
cam newton
ben roethlisberger
jay cutler
matt flynn
matt schaub
charlie batch
tim tebow
tony romo
vince young
jason kitna
andy dalton
kyle orton
matt ryan
jason flacco
alex smith
ryan fitzpatrick
mark sanchez
christian ponder
chris kolb
etc.

that puts batch at number 14, somewhere between schaub and tebow... honestly if i were to expand this list mccoy wouldn't crack my top 40




schaub should be higher on your list

tebow, flacco, ryan, orton, sanchez, dalton would all be easily ahead of batch

I'd also take campbell, palmer, smith, skeleton, hasselbeck, yates, bradford, and cassel before starting batch

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I really disagree with your list, but I really must say, and I'm really not trying to be a jerk, but you lose credibility when you post names like:

Jason Kitna (Do you mean Jon? Is he starting anywhere?)
Jason Flacco
Chris Kolb

But honestly, how in the HELL would anyone put Matt Ryan, Andy Dalton (who had a great rookie season, I hate to say), Tony Romo and a whole bunch of others you have on there below Charlie Batch?


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Why are we talking about Jon Kitna at all?


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Why are we talking about Jon Kitna at all?




Because he is obviously good enough to start for at least 12 teams in the league right now

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I would rather start Thad Lewis than Jon Kitna...


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I think we're just feeding a troll.


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I really disagree with your list, but I really must say, and I'm really not trying to be a jerk, but you lose credibility when you post names like:

Jason Kitna (Do you mean Jon? Is he starting anywhere?)
Jason Flacco
Chris Kolb

But honestly, how in the HELL would anyone put Matt Ryan, Andy Dalton (who had a great rookie season, I hate to say), Tony Romo and a whole bunch of others you have on there below Charlie Batch?




fair enough, i mixed up a few of their names but the fact remains the same, i think john kitna could start for roughly half the teams in the league; his QB ratings the past 5 years have ranged from above average to great, and while i would probably prefer romo in most situations, there are arguments to be made for why kitna is the superior quarterback.

as far as why i think bosh is better than matt ryan, andy dalton and romo: i agree that dalton looked pretty good as a rookie, but obviously he doesn't have the track record that batch has so while i would certainly rather start a franchise with any of those three because they are younger, they also make stupid mistakes that a veteran qb wouldn't make. i am not arguing who is more valuable than the others, obviously kitna and batch are too old to have much 'value', but they are still capable of being productive quarterbacks, much more than other old guys like kerry collins who somehow had the chance to start in recent memory.

and no, i'm not trolling just because you have your opinion and i have my opinion doesn't mean that your opinion is better than mine it's a free country and your groupthink mentality is what is destroying our great democracy... matt ryan is a decent quarterback, but put kitna on the falcons with roddy white and julio jones and he would put up better stats because he has a better deep ball.

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