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www.KFFL.comBrowns | Brad Childress agrees to become OC Fri, 27 Jan 2012 11:51:28 -0800 Former Minnesota Vikings head coach Brad Childress has agreed to become the Cleveland Browns' new offensive coordinator. Terms of the contract were not disclosed.
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Good news! Got an OC that fits the system the HC, GM, and Pres want to run.
Childress has experience as an OC for Philly and has HC experience. Hopefully this hire will work out the way that hiring Jauron did.
Let's get this offense rolling baby! Catch it up with the defense and start making some waves finally!
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3 former head coaches on staff, I believe that is what ushered in the change in Detroit. All that leadership and teaching ability from the coaching staff is a must for a young team.
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Detroit is also the team that I thought of too. Not a bad blueprint to follow.
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I guess if we can't get Sherman he'll do... I'm happy with have an OC with experience... I'm just not thrilled it's Childress.... sure hope he's improved since Minn especially if he's going to call the plays... I think I'd almost feel more comfortable with Shurmur keeping the play calling.... we'll see.... our offense can't get much worse.
Gotta get some playmakers though
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3 former head coaches on staff, I believe that is what ushured in the change in Detroit. All that leadership and teaching ability from the coaching staff is a must for a young team.
Yes, I feel good about this hire. I like hearing names I know of. Shurmur, a young HC, has a lot of guys he can talk to for advice too. (I've never thought it bad for a boss to ask his underlings what they think about something, doesn't have to do what they say, but listen to what they think). Plus he can always talk about things with the Big Show
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This has me a bit worried. He sucked as a Head coach. I guess its ok... I dont know much about him. I know who he is just dont know the specifics about him.
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Five if you count Holmgren and Shurmur as the current HC..
Shumur, Ray Rhodes, Dick Jauron and now Chidress.
Man, that's a whole lotta brain power.. wonder if it will work?
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One guy certainly doesn't like it, then again he was the beat writer for Baltimore before taking the job at ESPN. I miss James Walker
Childress isn't the answer for Browns By Jamison Hensley
The Browns made the right call when they decided to add an offensive coordinator, and they needed to hire someone with experience.
But hiring Brad Childress -- who is reportedly the front-runner for the job -- is not the answer. The Browns really needed to push to get Mike Sherman, who appears to be headed to the Miami Dolphins to be their offensive coordinator.
The problem with Childress is his track record with offenses. In the eight years that Childress has been a head coach or offensive coordinator in the NFL, his offenses have ranked in the bottom half of the league five times.
The disturbing part is he's only been an NFL playcaller for one season. The result? The Vikings finished 23rd in yards and 26th in points (17.6 per game) in 2006 before Childress passed those duties over to offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell the next season. Childress didn't call the plays in his three seasons as the Eagles' offensive coordinator (Andy Reid held that role) and he didn't call the plays in his final four seasons with the Vikings.
That resume doesn't inspire confidence that he will turn around a Browns offense that scored more than 17 points twice last season. Then again, it's hard to imagine any coordinator could really affect an offense that has major question marks at quarterback and running back as well as a void of playmakers at wide receiver.
If the Browns hire Childress, it wouldn't be the worst move. The team could have simply promoted quarterbacks coach Mark Whipple, but that wouldn't have accomplished anything.
Pat Shumur was overwhelmed in his first season as the Browns head coach, and he needed to have the responsibility of running the offense taken away. The only way an inexperienced head coach will succeed is if he has experienced coordinators supporting him. The Browns will have veteran voices with Childress and defensive coordinator Dick Jauron.
If I were Shurmur, I would rely on Childress' advice but not his play-calling ability.
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Great hire. Shurmur is surrounded by proven, experienced coaches.
No, Childress isn't a head coach, but he helped run a great offense in Philly. Even the Vikings' offense was good when they had a quarterback (Favre).
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I'm going to stay positive on this...I will give him my best of luck and wishes...With hopes of him being able to make this offense improve... and exciting...
Even thou I did not want this hire...it's the FO's and this is the guy they feel will help.
One thing...they didn't hire a collage level ...non experienced NFL coach...
I will say..i Hope his abrasive personality has mellowed...
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I just wonder who's going to be calling the plays, him or Shurmur. If Shurmur keeps the playcalling, maybe having Childress get things "organized" will help.
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Shurmur said ...he was open to the idea of having his offensive coordinator call plays if the right coach was hired...
Be anxious to hear from Shurmur now...
But even if Chilly is just there to organize...Any help we get has to be an improvement...I would hope....
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One guy certainly doesn't like it, then again he was the beat writer for Baltimore before taking the job at ESPN. I miss James Walker
Childress isn't the answer for Browns By Jamison Hensley
The Browns made the right call when they decided to add an offensive coordinator, and they needed to hire someone with experience.
But hiring Brad Childress -- who is reportedly the front-runner for the job -- is not the answer. The Browns really needed to push to get Mike Sherman, who appears to be headed to the Miami Dolphins to be their offensive coordinator.
The problem with Childress is his track record with offenses. In the eight years that Childress has been a head coach or offensive coordinator in the NFL, his offenses have ranked in the bottom half of the league five times.
The disturbing part is he's only been an NFL playcaller for one season. The result? The Vikings finished 23rd in yards and 26th in points (17.6 per game) in 2006 before Childress passed those duties over to offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell the next season. Childress didn't call the plays in his three seasons as the Eagles' offensive coordinator (Andy Reid held that role) and he didn't call the plays in his final four seasons with the Vikings.
That resume doesn't inspire confidence that he will turn around a Browns offense that scored more than 17 points twice last season. Then again, it's hard to imagine any coordinator could really affect an offense that has major question marks at quarterback and running back as well as a void of playmakers at wide receiver.
If the Browns hire Childress, it wouldn't be the worst move. The team could have simply promoted quarterbacks coach Mark Whipple, but that wouldn't have accomplished anything.
Pat Shumur was overwhelmed in his first season as the Browns head coach, and he needed to have the responsibility of running the offense taken away. The only way an inexperienced head coach will succeed is if he has experienced coordinators supporting him. The Browns will have veteran voices with Childress and defensive coordinator Dick Jauron.
If I were Shurmur, I would rely on Childress' advice but not his play-calling ability.
And he might simply be running the script (Game plan) on game day.
Too much is made of play calling and not enough is said about the game planning and adjustments during the game ... Obviously as a rookie head coach trying to perform both was too overwhelming for Shurmur or any other in his shoes last year.
This was a no brain'er to add a play caller/OC to the mix.
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Before I say anything, I should point out that this is all pure heresay and speculation (no links or hard evidence).
My buddy that sits next to me at work is a huge Vikings fan. He told me that the main reason Chilly was hired as a HC is because he's a discipline guy. He runs a tight ship, and, if nothing else, his offense was well prepared, disciplined, just overall ready to play a game (and this was a complaint about our offense this year, I believe).
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Just in case you missed the very first line of the article...
...who is James Hensley, the author of this article?
anyone????
But hey, Browns fans can trust his opinions, right, he works for ESPN...
He joined ESPN.com last year after 11 years as the Ravens beat writer !!!!!
Do you trust Hensley's opinion now?
He can take a flying leap for all I care...a freakin ravens beat writer...geesh..
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Wasn't James Walker originally brought in from Cleveland? I don't know if he was the beat writer, but he did some sport-newsy stuff in C-town before ESPN.
Everyone comes from somewhere, but I still miss Walker.
Then again, my Vikings buddy at work basically said the same thing to me about the hire.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
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Huh?
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I was unclear. I was qualifying the rest of my post with that statement.
My buddy at work was telling me that Chilly is a discipline guy, and good at preparing offenses for games.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
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He's talking about his buddy not about whether the hire is real or not
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I really wish the Browns would break the silence...and say something about this..
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Childress loves mobile QBs with an arm.
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This has me a bit worried. He sucked as a Head coach. I guess its ok... I dont know much about him. I know who he is just dont know the specifics about him.
The league is filled with great coordinators who failed badly as head coaches. The experiences make them better.
I view this as a goods move.
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Why do you say this? Because of TJack?
That's one guy and Jackson was INT city. I don't think he was OC for Philly when McNabb was selected......... Sage Rosenfelds wasn't very mobile, nor was Brett Favre. Gus Ferrote, Kelly Holcomb, Brooks Bollinger? How about the Eagles backups, Koy Detmer? AJ Feely?
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Are there people who don't love mobile QB's with good arms?
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This has me a bit worried. He sucked as a Head coach. I guess its ok... I dont know much about him. I know who he is just dont know the specifics about him.
The league is filled with great coordinators who failed badly as head coaches. The experiences make them better.
I view this as a goods move.
I agree Toad...Although if you read the comments on this article on PFT, we are a laughing running joke on there. Plus Florio is peeved at the firing of Grossi so he took a few day old story and started it out as "The factory of Sadnees" with a quote from a guy from the PD taking a shot at the Browns.. But yes, a good move! 
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Ok... now I'm over my inital sadness for not getting Sherman... I still think Sherman would have been the better choice, but either the FO thought Chilly was better or Sherm wanted to go to Miami instead of us... either way oh well
I really hope that Chily does better here than his track record has proven.... I think with Holmgren and Shurmur and now Childress we have a lot of offensive minded coaches that have worked together in the past... that's a good thing. Childress can take a lot of the day-to-day offense things off of Shurmur's plate so he can concentrate on other things during the week....
in terms of game day I don't care hwo calls plays... I honestly think Shrumur will keep calling plays. I remember hearing an interview with (I think) Kubiak where he basically said that calling plays really wasn't that big of a deal and it was more just 'gravey' when it came to the offense. In Houston the OC does most of the game planning and weekly work but then Kubiak is the one calling the plays. Has worked out pretty well....
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Why do you say this? Because of TJack?
That's one guy and Jackson was INT city. I don't think he was OC for Philly when McNabb was selected......... Sage Rosenfelds wasn't very mobile, nor was Brett Favre. Gus Ferrote, Kelly Holcomb, Brooks Bollinger? How about the Eagles backups, Koy Detmer? AJ Feely?
Donovan Mcnabb and T-Jack. He only made personnel decisions for 3-5 years and he had only Favre and T-Jack when he was in Minny. Besides how many WCO do not have a mobile QB? A lot of those guys you mentioned just had crappy accuracy
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The Cleveland Browns today named Brad Childress offensive coordinator, the team announced. Childress brings 33 years of coaching experience on both the collegiate and professional levels to the Browns, including 13 in the NFL. Most recently, he spent five seasons (2006-10) as the head coach of the Minnesota Vikings.
As head coach of the Vikings, Childress guided Minnesota to a regular season record of 39-35 (.527), as the team won consecutive division titles (2008-09) for the first time in 28 years (1977-78). In 2009, the team posted a 12-4 record, matching the second-best win total in franchise history, while leading the NFL with a club-high 10 Pro Bowlers. Also in 2009, the team’s passing offense, led by quarterback Brett Favre, finished the season ranked eighth, as Favre set career-highs in passer rating (107.2) and completion percentage (68.4%), while throwing 33 touchdown passes. During Childress’ first four seasons at the helm, the Vikings’ rushing offense posted the fourth-most rushing yards in the NFL (136.1 ypg) and the third-best average for rushing yards per carry (4.5). Under Childress’ tutelage, Vikings running back Adrian Peterson led the NFC and ranked second in the NFL with 1,341 rushing yards as a rookie. Peterson also led the league in rushing in 2008 with a franchise-best 1,760 yards and paced the NFL in 2009 with 18 rushing touchdowns.
Prior to joining the Vikings, Childress spent seven seasons (1999-2005) with the Philadelphia Eagles, where he tutored the quarterbacks for the first three years (1999-2001) and spent the final four as offensive coordinator (2002-05). During his tenure with the club, the Eagles posted a 70-42 record (.625), captured four consecutive NFC East Division titles (2001-04) and advanced to the postseason five straight seasons (2000-04). Philadelphia also represented the NFC in Super Bowl XXXIX following the 2004 season. During that season, Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb set franchise records in passer rating (104.7) and completion percentage (64.0%), while becoming the first quarterback in NFL history with more than 30 touchdown passes (31) and fewer than 10 interceptions (8) in a single season. As offensive coordinator, Childress led a group that ranked in the top 10 in total offense twice, amassed more than 5,000 yards each season and averaged 333.8 yards per game. In addition, the offensive unit was highlighted by seven starters who earned a combined 14 Pro Bowl berths from 2000-05.
Childress began his coaching career at the University of Illinois, spending the 1978 season as a graduate assistant before coaching both the running backs and wide receivers for six seasons (1979-84). In 1985, he entered the NFL coaching ranks as he spent one season (1985) as the quarterbacks coach with the Indianapolis Colts. Over the next 13 years, he made coaching stops at Northern Arizona (1986-89), the University of Utah (1990) and the University of Wisconsin (1991-98). As the quarterbacks coach/offensive coordinator at the University of Wisconsin, the Badgers appeared in five bowl games, which included two Rose Bowl victories in 1993 and 1998.
Childress began his collegiate career at Eastern Illinois before transferring to the University of Illinois, where he played quarterback and wide receiver. He graduated from Eastern Illinois with a degree in psychology. A native of Aurora, Illinois, Childress attended Marmion Christian Academy.
Brad and his wife, Dru-Ann, have three sons, Andrew, Christopher and Kyle, and one daughter, Cara. They also have twin grandsons, Aiden and Brecken.
Brad Childress’ Coaching Background: 1978-84: University of Illinois, graduate assistant/running backs/wide receivers 1985: Indianapolis Colts, quarterbacks coach 1986-89: Northern Arizona University, offensive coordinator 1990: University of Utah, wide receivers coach 1991: University of Wisconsin, running backs coach 1992-98: University of Wisconsin, quarterbacks coach/offensive coordinator 1999-2001: Philadelphia Eagles, quarterbacks coach 1992-05: Philadelphia Eagles, offensive coordinator 2006-10: Minnesota Vikings, head coach 2012-: Cleveland Browns, offensive coordinator
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Well there's all diff types of mobile. There's mobile like Mike Vick or mobile like Colt McCoy or mobile like........ that gunslinger outta Arkansas last year, lol.
I just don't think that he necessary likes mobile QB's. Jackson is the only one he was part of. McNabb had to be on the Eagles before he became OC.
I don't think Childress means we're gonna draft RG3. That's all. He's had QBs in Minn while he was HC that weren't mobile at all. The only one I can think of is Jackson
WCO without Mobile QB: Seattle did with Hasselback. Minn did with Favre, so did GB with Favre. Aaron Rogers is pretty mobile, ummm I can't think of many other WCO's. Drew Brees isn't mobile.... Jeff Garcia was.
It's a benefit, but by no means essential
Obviously Mobile is a plus: But I don't think it's much bigger for him than anyone else
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Childress has spoken out, back in 2006 when he defended taking Jackson, that he preferred QBs with big arms that were mobile. The guys you listed were suppose to be the smart veteran type while Jackson became the unquestioned starter. That obviously didnt happen. Favre was an obvious choice, mobility or not given he spent decades in that system.
If Childress gets a shot at drafting his Qb of the future, its going to be a strong armed QB who is mobile. That is what he has said in previous drafts.
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Word, makes sense to me
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Childress has spoken out, back in 2006 when he defended taking Jackson, that he preferred QBs with big arms that were mobile. The guys you listed were suppose to be the smart veteran type while Jackson became the unquestioned starter. That obviously didnt happen. Favre was an obvious choice, mobility or not given he spent decades in that system.
If Childress gets a shot at drafting his Qb of the future, its going to be a strong armed QB who is mobile. That is what he has said in previous drafts.
well, then we are doomed.. Cause it hasn't worked out for him thus far LOL
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Just adding to the discussion. I wonder if this means the QB carousel continues? In his four and a half seasons as HC in Minny, he had four primary starting QBs (Brad Johnson, Tavaris Jackson, Gus Frerotte, Brett Favre). Source: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/min/ To be fair, as HC, the Vikings improved each year until the year when he was fired as they went 3-7 before he got handed the pink slip, making the playoffs in two of those seasons. I expect that the offense will make positive moves next year, scoring more points. In three of the seasons as HC, Childress' offenses scored more points than they gave up. In each of the last four seasons, the Browns have given up more points than they've scored and only twice since the return have the Browns scored more points than we've given up (Davis' 9-7 Browns and Crennel's 10-6 Browns). I'm willing to give the FO the benefit of the doubt on this one but it concerns me a bit that two of those they they sought to bring in for the job refused the offer.
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Childress won't be making the decisions about who will be playing or who the Browns will be drafting.
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Childress won't be making the decisions about who will be playing or who the Browns will be drafting.
No, but you're crazy if you don't this coordinator's schemes and player preferences don't play a huge impact in personnel moves.
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