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Well, it's obviously a different story if we got a backup PG in return. I think Flynn would be a cancer here as anything other than a 2-month rental though.

Well .... we do have Manny Harris in Canton.

Andy's in beast mode tonight - 17 & 17

3rd game in a row with 15+ rebounds for Varejao.

If they trade him they better get HUGE value in return. He fits Scott's system perfectly.

And to think, some of you silly people thought we should have drafted Derrick Williams

I admit to wanting Williams and Knight.

It's not like he has stiffs ahead of him in the PF rotation in Minnesota though. Are the T-Wolves playing him at SF? That doesn't seem like it would be a good spot for him.

I preferred Williams at draft time mainly because we needed a 3 way more than we needed a 1. That said, Kyrie has exceeded my expectations tenfold and I couldn't be happier about it. We still need a 3, though Casspi has played a bit better recently, as well as legit guys at the 4 and 5. If we don't deal Andy (though I believe we will), a true back-to-the-basket center that allowed Andy to move back to the 4, where he should be playing, would be wonderful.

I think that I would do the trade Simmons has laid out if I were the Cavaliers. I really love Andy's game in this scheme ....... but trading him for value like that would be huge for the future.

Bob Finnan's NBA notes: Chris Grant has several key decisions to make in the coming months - news-herald.com
http://www.news-herald.com/articles/2012/02/05/sports/nh5059143.txt?viewmode=fullstory


By Bob Finnan
RFinnan@News-Herald.com
@BobCavsinsider



Cavaliers general manager Chris Grant has some tough decisions facing him in the next few months.

The following are a few things he must decide:

-- Which players on the roster will he deal by the March 15 NBA trade deadline?

He's getting a lot of calls right now about backup point guard Ramon Sessions, including from the Los Angeles Lakers and New York Knicks.

The Lakers have two first-round picks in the 2012 draft, their own and Dallas' selection. The Cavs have their eye on one of them. If they send Sessions to L.A., the Cavs might also want one of the Lakers' backup point guards in return (Darius Morris or Andrew Goudelock).

The Lakers probably won't be doing anything until they've extinguished all hopes of trading for Orlando center Dwight Howard. They'll need all their assets to pull off a deal of that magnitude.

The Knicks also want Sessions, but don't appear to have anything to send back to the Cavs. Shooting guard Landry Fields might make some sense, but the Knicks apparently want to hold on to him.

-- The Cavs would likely be able to get a high draft pick for center Anderson Varejao. They'd be crazy to deal him right now. If they traded him, they'd have to find another quality big man, which isn't easy.

Some say Varejao, 29, will be too old by the time the Cavs are ready to become a serious contender again. That might be correct.

ESPN's Bill Simmons threw out a trade scenario this week in which Varejao ended up with his beloved Celtics. He thought the Celtics should send center Jermaine O'Neal (an unrestricted free agent after this year), their first-round pick and the Los Angeles Clippers' first-rounder to the Cavs in exchange for Varejao.

The Cavs might listen to something like that.

-- Forward Antawn Jamison's name continues to be bandied about. I think his $15.1 million expiring contract is valuable to the Cavs. If they keep him, his contract comes off their books this summer.

They could find a team interested in taking him, but they'd have to take back a lot of salary, something they don't want to do. It's unlikely they'd find a team willing to give up a first-round pick for him. If they could, it would be at the bottom of the first round.

The Cavs have trouble scoring. If they dealt Jamison, they'd routinely score in the high 80s.

-- Swingman Alonzo Gee is a free agent after this season. I'd sign him to a contract extension now and not let him become a free agent. He's shown he's willing to work. He's one of the team's best players right now. He's young (24), and he's a keeper.

I dunno...I don't think either the Celtics or the Clips will be in the lottery this year, so you're looking at a couple 1st round picks in the late teens to early 20s, plus a rental on a guy with bad knees.

This coming draft is going to be a very deep draft.

I think that we can find a really high quality SF and SG by the middle of the draft .... and who knows ..... maybe we can even pair up one of those picks, plus our 2 seconds and a future 1st rounder from the Heat and move up a little further.

Stranger things have happened.

True. The one nice thing is that we still control Andy for several years, so if the deal isn't what we want this season we don't have to trade him just to make a move. We've got 1st rounders from Miami next year and 2015 (assuming Miami makes the playoffs next year, which I think is basically a given). I'd be more interested in bundling up a bunch of the second-rounders we have (2012 NOLA, 2013, 2014 Orlando, our own picks) to make a move.

I do agree with that article that we should 1) lock up Gee for several years right now, and 2) let Jamison's deal expire at the end of the year. I don't think what we'd get back would be worth it in a trade.

i am on the sell-high side, but only if you can sell high. picks in 20s ain't selling high

It may not be high, but combined they could turn in to that.

Sounds like the Cavs have a ton of picks on the horizon. We need to turn them in to players to go with Irving, who by the way is looking to be the real deal.


I agree with the writer, we need to get Gee signed. I think he is turning in to a plus player. We need to keep him.

i agree on Gee. he's looking like a solid rotation player, and we need those guys.

We're not getting a lottery pick for a couple picks in the 20s either.

i agree. the NBA isn't like the other sports when it comes to the draft. it's much harder to get good picks (unless the Clippers lose their minds again, but they won't have a good pick this year)

i am still rooting against Minny though so that if they win the lotto, then the Clippers could have had the picks to the #1 overall pick in consecutive years (Irving and likely Anthony Davis) and gave them both away.

I say just keep Andy. You'll never get max value in return for him, and there is such a thing as too many draft picks in the NBA. And unlike the NFL you don't just package up picks and move up.

His stock may never be higher, but the most I can see us getting is a first outside of the lottery. Not worth it.

agree that if we don't get overwhelmed, we should feel no pressure to move him for the sake of moving him.

I agree with both you and Spergon. NBA picks aren't anything like NFL picks. In football you have 22 positions to fill. More if you count kickers. You also need way more depth.

In basketball you only have 5 positions to fill and really only have 3 depth positions to fill since most of your depth players are more or less tweeners....guys who can play a couple of position fairly well.

Since teams know you only need two really good players, surrounded by 3 more decent guys, teams are less willing to move down. You can find decent players and depth players all day long. Some of those guys aren't even playing in the NBA. They can be found.

The only way to move up once the lottery and draft order have been set, is from a team way outside of the lottery that just doesn't see the use in the pick, because they're a good team. Maybe they'd rather have a 2nd round pick, take a foreign player, and let him develop overseas, and that's only if they don't see that guy with their current 1st round pick.

It just doesn't happen.

I honestly don't even know if I'd give up Andy to a team that is borderline 8-seed/lottery.

Assuming the Cavs get into the lotto and at best get a top-10 pick, this thing could get turned around quickly if done right, and Andy could be part of the future. I think the pick of Kyrie Irving sped up this process a year or maybe even 2 years.

About the only way it happens is if there is a 3 or 4 team trade. The "playoff" team would get Andy, we would get the lottery pick, and the 3rd/4th team would get some sort of cap-relief/assortment of need-based players/low draft picks. But like I said before, with the amnesty rule, I don't know that there are a ton of teams looking to deperately shed salary.

Part of me would like to see him go to the Clippers ... if only for the small chance to see Mo Williams and Andy take down Lebron in an NBA finals series.

So The Heat get alot of Fast Breaks basically because they stop playing defense... That's cute...

Hey I'm Dwayne Wade, Come down and play D? Nah I'll just hang out here under my basket so someone can give me the ball...

Know what's funny? All the talk last year about what a good basketball player Joel Anthony is.

Casspi comes across as the most unathletic person I've ever seen on a non-ymca basketball court... He's just that white guy that shoots threes and thinks he can go to the rim against all the big black guys...

Lebron James has never seen a shot he didn't get fouled on...

Somehow the Cavs managed to have Luke Harangody, Christian Sky-enga and Ryan Hollins on the court together for over two minutes and aren't trailing by double digits. I consider that a small victory in and of itself.

LeBron wanted none of Alonzo Gee going to the rim on that dunk, too.

I don't like how Sessions is playing tonight, it seems any time someone pressures him full court he loses he train of thought...

I think Hollins could become a great BACKUP center some day...

Hey lets NOT leave Chris Bosh wide open, just a thought...

Yeah, they still haven't figured out that Bosh is automatic from the elbow.

The ball is not bouncing our way at all tonight...

Did someone just legit throw Casspi aside or was i seeing something?

I love Alonzo Gee.

Is it bad that I got even a LITTLE excited when Jameson came up limping a bit?

Who needs a PG? I'm totally done with Sessions. Maybe he's read the reports and is done with us? I dunno, doesn't seem like himself tonight...

Yeah. Without Jamison we score 75 points a night. I guess if you want to guarantee a high pick.

His wrist or whatever must be getting better, because for the last week or so it seemed like every shot he put up hit the front of the rim...

I'm watching the Heat's coverage, watching them interview one of their assistant coaches about the Cavs was weird...

Maybe it's just me, but Dwyane Wade looks old tonight.

And apparently its legal to dunk in a ball that's sitting on the rim...

...if you're LeBron James.