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The NFL Scouting Combine will be held February 22 – 28, 2012.

Official Invite List is up:

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Corners
DB03 BENTLEY, DWIGHT LOUISIANA-LAFAYETTE
DB05 BLANTON, ROBERT NOTRE DAME R J
DB06 BOLDEN, OMAR ARIZONA ST
DB07 BOYKIN, BRANDON GEORGIA
DB08 BROOKS, ROND'TRIQUE LOUISIANA ST RON
DB09 BROWN, CHARLES NORTH CAROLINA
DB11 CLAIBORNE, MORRIS LOUISIANA ST
DB12 DENNARD, ALFONZO NEBRASKA
DB13 FENELUS, ANTONIO WISCONSIN
DB14 FLEMING, JAMELL OKLAHOMA
DB15 FREDERICK, TERRENCE TEXAS A&M
DB16 GILMORE, STEPHON SOUTH CAROLINA
DB18 HARRIS, CLIFF OREGON
DB19 HARRIS, MIKE FLORIDA ST
DB20 HAYWARD, CASEY VANDERBILT
DB21 HOSLEY, JAYRON VIRGINIA TECH
DB25 JACKSON, ASA CAL POLY ST ACE
DB27 JENKINS, JANORIS NORTH ALABAMA
DB28 JOHNSON, LEONARD IOWA ST
DB29 JOHNSON, TRUMAINE MONTANA
DB30 JONES, JEREMY WAYNE ST-MI J J
DB31 JUDIE, CORYELL TEXAS A&M
DB32 KIRKPATRICK, D'ANDRE ALABAMA DRE
DB33 LYNN, ANTHONY PENN ST D' ANTON
DB37 MENZIE, DE'QUAN ALABAMA
DB38 MINNIFIELD, CHASE VIRGINIA
DB40 NORMAN, JOSHUA COASTAL CAROLINA JOSH
DB41 PELLERIN, MICAH HAMPTON
DB43 POWELL, CHAZ PENN ST
DB44 PRATER, SHAUN IOWA
DB45 PRESLEY, DE'ANDRE APPALACHIAN ST
DB47 REED, ANTWUAN PITTSBURGH
DB49 ROBINSON, JOSHUA CENTRAL FLORIDA JOSH
DB51 SENSABAUGH, COTY CLEMSON
DB53 STEED, RYAN FURMAN
DB58 WADE, TREVIN ARIZONA
DB59 WHITE, COREY SAMFORD

Safeties
DB24 ILOKA, GEORGE BOISE ST
DB26 JACKSON, JANZEN MCNEESE ST
DB34 MARTIN, MARKELLE OKLAHOMA ST
DB50 ROBINSON, TRENTON MICHIGAN ST TRENT
DB52 SMITH, HARRISON NOTRE DAME
DB55 THOMAS, JOHNNY OKLAHOMA ST
DB56 THOMAS, PHILLIP SYRACUSE
DB57 THOMPSON, CHRISTIAN SOUTH CAROLINA ST
DB02 BARRON, MARK ALABAMA
DB04 BETHEL, JUSTIN PRESBYTERIAN
DB10 CATTOUSE, SEAN CALIFORNIA
DB17 GUY, WINSTON KENTUCKY
DB22 HOWELL, DELANO STANFORD
DB23 IHENACHO, DUKE SAN JOSE ST
DB35 MCCRAY, KELCIE ARKANSAS ST
DB36 MCMILLIAN, JERRON MAINE
DB39 MITCHELL, CHARLES MISSISSIPPI ST
DB42 PLEASANT, EDWARD OREGON
DB46 QUARLES, CYHL WAKE FOREST
DB48 RICHARDSON, SEANDRE VANDERBILT
DB54 TAYLOR, BRANDON LOUISIANA ST

OLBs
LB01 ACHO, EMMANUEL TEXAS
LB02 BAKER, RYAN LOUISIANA ST
LB03 BRADHAM, NIGEL FLORIDA ST
LB04 BROWN, ZACH NORTH CAROLINA
LB06 BURRIS, MILES SAN DIEGO ST
LB09 DAVID, LAVONTE NEBRASKA
LB10 DAVIS, DEMARIO ARKANSAS ST
LB11 FLEMING, DARIUS NOTRE DAME
LB17 KADDU, JOSHUA OREGON JOSH
LB22 MANNING, TERRELL NORTH CAROLINA ST
LB23 MARSHALL, BRANDON NEVADA
LB25 NIELSEN, TYLER IOWA
LB26 ROBINSON, KEENAN TEXAS
LB27 SPENCE, SEAN-RYAN MIAMI-FL SEAN
LB28 STUPAR, STEPHEN PENN ST NATHAN
LB29 TREVATHAN, DANIEL KENTUCKY DANNY
LB30 UPSHAW, COURTNEY ALABAMA
LB32 WHITEHEAD, TAHIR TEMPLE
LB33 WILBER, KYLE WAKE FOREST

ILBs
LB05 BURFICT, VONTAZE ARIZONA ST
LB07 CARDER, RICKY TEXAS CHRISTIAN TANK
LB08 COLE, AUDIE NORTH CAROLINA ST
LB12 GALIPPO, CHRIS SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
LB13 GOODE, NAJEE WEST VIRGINIA
LB14 HIGHTOWER, QUALIN ALABAMA DONT'A
LB15 JOHNSON, JAMES-MICHAEL NEVADA
LB16 JOHNSON, STEVEN KANSAS
LB18 KENDRICKS, MARVIN CALIFORNIA MYCHAL
LB19 KUECHLY, LUKE BOSTON COLLEGE
LB20 LEWIS, TRAVIS OKLAHOMA
LB21 LOISEAU, SHAWN MERRIMACK
LB24 MCSURDY, CALEB MONTANA
LB31 WAGNER, BOBBY UTAH ST

DEs
DL02 ALEXANDER, FRANK OKLAHOMA
DL03 BEQUETTE, GEORGE ARKANSAS JAKE
DL04 BLATNICK, ANTON OKLAHOMA ST JAMIE
DL05 BRANCH, ORLANDUS CLEMSON ANDRE
DL08 COPLES, QUINTON NORTH CAROLINA
DL10 CRAWFORD, JACK PENN ST
DL11 CRAWFORD, TYRONE BOISE ST
DL13 CURRY, VINCENT MARSHALL VINNY
DL17 FRANCIS, JUSTIN RUTGERS
DL18 GUYTON, TREVOR CALIFORNIA
DL21 HICKS, AKIEM REGINA
DL24 INGRAM, MELVIN SOUTH CAROLINA
DL25 IRVIN, BRUCE WEST VIRGINIA
DL27 JARRETT, JAMAAR ARIZONA ST
DL28 JOHNSON, CAMERON VIRGINIA CAM
DL29 JONES, CHANDLER SYRACUSE
DL31 LEWIS, RONNELL OKLAHOMA
DL32 LINDSEY, BRANDON PITTSBURGH
DL34 MASSAQUOI, JONATHAN TROY
DL35 MCCLELLIN, SHEA BOISE ST
DL37 MERCILUS, WHITNEY ILLINOIS
DL39 PAIGE-MOSS, DONTE NORTH CAROLINA
DL40 PERRY, NICK SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
DL47 SHELBY, DERRICK UTAH
DL48 SMITH, JACQUIES MISSOURI
DL49 SOLOMON, SCOTT RICE
DL55 TYSON, DEANGELO GEORGIA
DL56 VERNON, OLIVIER MIAMI-FL

DTs
DL01 ALECXIH, PETER PITTSBURGH CHAS
DL06 BROCKERS, MICHAEL LOUISIANA ST
DL09 COX, FLETCHER MISSISSIPPI ST
DL12 CRICK, JARED NEBRASKA
DL14 DANIELS, MICHAEL IOWA MIKE
DL15 FANGUPO, HEBRON BRIGHAM YOUNG LONI
DL16 FORSTON, MARCUS MIAMI-FL
DL19 HAMILTON, DOMINIQUE MISSOURI DOM
DL20 HARRIS, DAJOHN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
DL22 HOWARD, JERRY FLORIDA JAYE
DL23 HUGHES, JOHN CINCINNATI
DL26 JACKSON, MALIK TENNESSEE
DL30 KUHN, MARKUS NORTH CAROLINA ST
DL36 MEATOGA, VAUGHN HAWAII
DL38 MOORE, RENNIE CLEMSON
DL41 POE, DONTARI MEMPHIS
DL42 POWELL, TYDREKE NORTH CAROLINA
DL44 REYES, KENDALL CONNECTICUT
DL45 ROBERTSON, TRAVIAN SOUTH CAROLINA
DL46 ROY, BRETT NEVADA
DL50 STILL, DEVON PENN ST
DL51 SWEEZY, JUSTIN NORTH CAROLINA ST J R
DL52 TA'AMU, ALAMEDA WASHINGTON
DL53 THOMPSON, BRANDON CLEMSON
DL57 WINN, WILLIAM BOISE ST BILLY
DL58 WOLFE, DEREK CINCINNATI
DL59 WORTHY, JEREL MICHIGAN ST
DL07 CHAPMAN, JOSHUA ALABAMA JOSH
DL33 MARTIN, MICHAEL MICHIGAN MIKE
DL43 RANDALL, KHEESTON TEXAS
DL54 TUPOU, CHRISTIAN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA

QBs
QB01 COLEMAN, BRYON TENNESSEE-CHATT B J
QB02 CORP, AARON RICHMOND
QB03 COUSINS, KIRK MICHIGAN ST
QB04 DAVIS, AUSTIN SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI
QB05 FOLES, NICK ARIZONA
QB06 GRIFFIN, ROBERT BAYLOR
QB07 HARNISH, CHANDLER NORTHERN ILLINOIS
QB08 HARRIS, JACORY MIAMI-FL
QB09 JEFFERSON, JORDAN LOUISIANA ST
QB10 KEENUM, CASEY HOUSTON CASE
QB11 LINDLEY, RYAN SAN DIEGO ST
QB12 LUCK, ANDREW STANFORD
QB13 MOORE, KELLEN BOISE ST
QB14 OSWEILER, BROCK ARIZONA ST
QB15 TANNEHILL, RYAN TEXAS A&M
QB16 THOMAS, DARRON OREGON
QB17 WEEDEN, BRANDON OKLAHOMA ST
QB18 WILSON, RUSSELL WISCONSIN
QB19 WITT, PATRICK YALE

RBs
RB01 BAKER, EDWIN MICHIGAN ST
RB02 BALL, MIKE NEVADA
RB03 BALLARD, VICK MISSISSIPPI ST
RB04 BOLDEN, BRANDON MISSISSIPPI
RB05 CREER, LENNON LOUISIANA TECH
RB06 DEMPS, JEFFERY FLORIDA JEFF
RB09 GANAWAY, TERRANCE BAYLOR
RB10 GRAY, CYRUS TEXAS A&M
RB11 GRAY, JONAS NOTRE DAME
RB12 HAMPTON, JEWEL SOUTHERN ILLINOIS
RB13 HERRON, DANIEL OHIO ST DAN
RB14 HILLMAN, RONNIE SAN DIEGO ST
RB15 JAMES, LAMICHAEL OREGON
RB16 MARTIN, DOUGLAS BOISE ST DOUG
RB17 MEGGETT, DAVIN MARYLAND
RB18 MILLER, LAMAR MIAMI-FL
RB19 MORRIS, ALFRED FLORIDA ATLANTIC
RB20 PEAD, ISAIAH CINCINNATI
RB21 PIERCE, BERNARD TEMPLE
RB22 POLK, CHRISTOPHER WASHINGTON CHRIS
RB23 POOLE, TAUREN TENNESSEE
RB24 RAINEY, CHRISTOPHER FLORIDA CHRIS
RB25 RICHARDSON, TRENT ALABAMA
RB26 SCOTT, DARRELL SOUTH FLORIDA
RB27 TURBIN, ROBERT UTAH ST
RB28 TYLER, MARC SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
RB29 WHITTAKER, FOSWHITT TEXAS FOZZY
RB30 WILSON, DAVID VIRGINIA TECH

FBs
RB07 ELLISON, RHETT SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
RB08 EWING, BRADIE WISCONSIN
TE09 IGWENAGU, UCHECHUKWU MASSACHUSETTS-AMHERST EMIL
TE14 RODRIGUEZ, EVAN TEMPLE

TEs
TE01 ALLEN, DWAYNE CLEMSON
TE02 CHARLES, ORSON GEORGIA
TE03 DUNSMORE, DRAKE NORTHWESTERN
TE04 EGNEW, MICHAEL MISSOURI
TE05 FLEENER, JACOBY STANFORD COBY
TE06 GREEN, LADARIUS LOUISIANA-LAFAYETTE
TE07 HANNA, JAMES OKLAHOMA
TE08 HARKEY, CORY UCLA
TE10 PAULSON, DAVID OREGON
TE11 PETERSON, DEANGELO LOUISIANA ST
TE12 PROVO, NICOLAS SYRACUSE NICK
TE13 RELIFORD, XIANGDRE FLORIDA ST BEAU

WRs
WO01 ADAMS, ADAM ARKANSAS JOE
WO02 BENFORD, TIMOTHY TENNESSEE TECH TIM
WO03 BENJAMIN, TRAVIS MIAMI-FL
WO04 BLACKMON, JUSTIN OKLAHOMA ST
WO05 BOYKIN, JARRETT VIRGINIA TECH
WO06 BRAZILL, LAVON OHIO
WO07 BROYLES, RYAN OKLAHOMA
WO08 CHILDS, GREGORY ARKANSAS GREG
WO09 COALE, DANIEL VIRGINIA TECH DANNY
WO10 COOPER, JOSH OKLAHOMA ST
WO11 CRINER, JURON ARIZONA
WO12 CUNNINGHAM, B J MICHIGAN ST
WO13 EDWARDS, PATRICK HOUSTON PAT
WO14 FLOYD, MICHAEL NOTRE DAME
WO15 FULLER, JEFFREY TEXAS A&M JEFF
WO16 GIVENS, CHRIS WAKE FOREST
WO17 GRAHAM, TREVOR NORTH CAROLINA ST T J
WO18 HANKS, DARIUS ALABAMA
WO19 HEMINGWAY, KENNETH MICHIGAN JUNIOR
WO20 HILL, STEPHEN GEORGIA TECH
WO21 HILTON, EUGENE FLORIDA INT T Y
WO22 JACKSON, JERRELL MISSOURI
WO23 JEFFERY, ALSHON SOUTH CAROLINA
WO24 JENKINS, ALFRED ILLINOIS A J
WO25 JONES, DWIGHT NORTH CAROLINA
WO26 JONES, MARVIN CALIFORNIA MARV
WO27 KEARSE, JERMAINE WASHINGTON
WO28 MARTIN, KESHAWN MICHIGAN ST
WO29 MATTHEWS, RISHARD NEVADA
WO30 MAZE, MARQUIS ALABAMA
WO31 MCNUTT, MARVIN IOWA
WO32 MOORE, KASHIF CONNECTICUT
WO33 MOYE, DEREK PENN ST
WO34 OWUSU, CHRIS STANFORD
WO35 PAGE, ERIC TOLEDO
WO36 POSEY, DEVIER OHIO ST
WO37 QUICK, BRIAN APPALACHIAN ST
WO38 RANDLE, RUEBEN LOUISIANA ST
WO39 ROBINSON, LA'DIVIOSIA ARIZONA ST GERELL
WO40 RODGERS, JAMES OREGON ST
WO41 SANU, MOHAMED RUTGERS
WO42 STREETER, TOMMY MIAMI-FL
WO43 TOON, NICHOLAS WISCONSIN NICK
WO44 WHITE, JORDAN WESTERN MICHIGAN
WO45 WRIGHT, JARIUS ARKANSAS
WO46 WRIGHT, KENDALL BAYLOR
WO47 WYLIE, DEVON FRESNO ST

OTs
OL01 ADAMS, MICHAEL OHIO ST MIKE
OL02 ALLEN, JEFFERY ILLINOIS JEFF
OL03 ANDERSON, JUSTIN GEORGIA
OL05 BEACHUM, KELVIN SMU
OL06 BERGSTROM, TONY UTAH
OL09 BROWN, JAMES TROY
OL10 COMPTON, THOMAS SOUTH DAKOTA TOM
OL11 CORNICK, PAUL NORTH DAKOTA ST
OL12 CULLEN, JOHN UTAH
OL13 DATKO, ANDREW FLORIDA ST
OL15 DEVER, ANTHONY NOTRE DAME TAYLOR
OL18 GLENN, CORDY GEORGIA
OL19 GREENE, A J AUBURN
OL20 HOLMES, LAMAR SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI
OL23 JONES, MARCEL NEBRASKA
OL24 KALIL, MATT SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
OL25 KELEMETE, SENIO WASHINGTON
OL27 LEARY, RONALD MEMPHIS
OL30 MARTIN, JONATHAN STANFORD
OL31 MASSIE, BOBBY MISSISSIPPI
OL32 MCCANTS, MATT ALABAMA-BIRMINGHAM
OL36 MOSLEY, BRANDON AUBURN
OL38 OGLESBY, JOSHUA WISCONSIN JOSH
OL39 OSEMELE, KELECHI IOWA ST
OL40 POTTER, NATHANIEL BOISE ST NATE
OL41 REIFF, RILEY IOWA
OL42 REYNOLDS, MATTHEW BRIGHAM YOUNG MATT
OL43 SANDERS, ZEBRIE FLORIDA ST
OL45 SCHWARTZ, MITCHELL CALIFORNIA
OL46 SILATOLU, AMINIASI MIDWESTERN ST AMINI
OL47 STEPHENSON, DONALD OKLAHOMA
OL50 WALDRON, DUSTIN PORTLAND ST
OL51 WASHINGTON, BRANDON MIAMI-FL
OL52 WATKINS, ROKEVIOUS SOUTH CAROLINA
OL55 ZUSEVICS, MARKUS IOWA

OGs
OL04 ASPER, MARK OREGON
OL14 DECASTRO, DAVID STANFORD
OL17 GETTIS, ADAM IOWA
OL21 JOHNSON, RISHAW CAL U-PENN
OL28 LERIBEUS, JOSH SMU
OL29 LOONEY, JOSEPH WAKE FOREST JOE
OL33 MCCLAIN, ANTOINE CLEMSON
OL34 MILLER, RYAN COLORADO
OL37 NIX, LUCAS PITTSBURGH LUKE
OL44 SAULSBERRY, QUENTIN MISSISSIPPI ST
OL48 TILLER, ANDREW SYRACUSE
OL49 TROUTMAN, JOHNNIE PENN ST
OL53 WYNN, DESMOND RUTGERS
OL54 ZEITLER, KEVIN WISCONSIN

OCs
OL07 BLAKE, PHILIP BAYLOR
OL08 BREWSTER, MICHAEL OHIO ST
OL16 GERHART, GARTH ARIZONA ST
OL22 JONES, BENJAMIN GEORGIA BEN
OL26 KONZ, PETER WISCONSIN
OL35 MOLK, DAVID MICHIGAN

K
PK02 BULLOCK, RANDOL TEXAS A&M RANDY
PK04 DIMKE, DEREK ILLINOIS
PK09 TEGGART, DAVID CONNECTICUT DAVE
PK10 WALSH, BLAIR GEORGIA
PK11 WIGGS, CARSON PURDUE

P
PK01 ANGER, BRYAN CALIFORNIA
PK03 BUTLER, ANDREW GEORGIA DREW
PK05 MARTENS, KYLE RICE
PK06 NORTMAN, BRADLEY WISCONSIN BRAD
PK07 POWELL, SHAWN FLORIDA ST
PK08 STAHOVICH, BRIAN SAN DIEGO ST



Some of the name / goes by mismatches crack me up.

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Damn, not on the list again this year...


Crowded elevators smell different to short people...
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Thanks for the info.



Yep, some of the names are head scratcher's, especially this guy:

ROBINSON, LA'DIVIOSIA ARIZONA ST GERELL


What???


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"Team Chemistry No Match for Team Biology" (Onion Sports Headline)
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That list reminds me a lot of madden. Made me excited to see how they will project.

Shame I can't simulate 6 seasons in an hour to find out

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A guy I don't see on the list and has some personal issues is Janzen Jackson. He was a safety for Tennessee before being dismissed. Great skills and potential if he can get his head right. Finished up at McNeese State. Run's a 4.37 40. He is one of my sleepers but the off the field issues are a flag. Could be a late round gem if he got his stuff together and would be a great Gunner on Special teams.

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"Going from 4-12 to 6-10 isn't good enough. I believe we are going to be better than that. We're going to be a lot better than that." - Mike Holmgren (3/15/12)
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Crazy, I actually got to attend a McNeese State game two years ago.... nobody really stood out to me in that game, though.


Browns is the Browns

... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.

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Quote:

Crazy, I actually got to attend a McNeese State game two years ago.... nobody really stood out to me in that game, though.


I don't think he was there yet.


"Going from 4-12 to 6-10 isn't good enough. I believe we are going to be better than that. We're going to be a lot better than that." - Mike Holmgren (3/15/12)
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That would explain it, then... because it was a game against SELU (Southeastern Lousiana State) and if there was viable NFL talent on that field at the time, you'd have shocked me, lol.


Browns is the Browns

... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.

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OK.....maybe it needs some explanation on how one might end up at a McNeese St. v SELU game??

So what took you to Hammond or Lake Charles?


I have family down in that general area, so I know where those schools are located.....both off I-10, maybe 125-150 miles spread.


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I went down there for the Browns-Saints game that fall. The friend I was staying with (old Navy shipmate) lives in Hammond and worked in the Multimedia Dept. for SELU.... so, the night before the Browns game, we went and hit the SELU Homecoming game. It was a good time

SELU lost, btw.... and actually, ALL of the home teams lost that weekend (SELU, LSU and the Saints)
I told him that I'd happily come back any time he wants to bet against all of them, hehe


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Ahhhh....I know it can be said for many places, but somehow it rings just a little truer in this case, those south Louisiana folks know how to party.


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It is definitely a good time, and you can't beat the food

I wish I could recall the name of the restaurant in Hammond that was so good - the Etouffe was off the charts good. That place and Middendorf's.... I'm planning trips back there just to go to those restaurants again


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No doubt about the food.

Like I said, I have some family down there( near N.O.), so I knew where the schools were, and have driven I-10 a time or two through Hammond and Lake Charles, but can't say I have spent any time there other than maybe gas up or grab a bite to eat at some interstate exit.


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If Jeffrey runs in the 4.4s his stock will go through the roof and I am back to liking his potential to being a number 1 receiver. He has such a wide catching radius, has soft hands, can make the circus catch and runs great routes. The questions around him are his straight line speed and ability to get seperation.

His attitude is great and said he know's he is Physical and can make big plays in big games but admitted he will work on his speed coming into the combine. He said he want's to be like Fitzgerald, Calvin and Andre Johnson(of course).

I was just watching some highlights and he has some good vision with the ball in hand. He showed some nifty moves and seen him get seperation and pull away from defenders. He can go up and get it with a DB draped on him and has really good concentration and over the shoulder catching ability. I just worry about the Mike Williams syndrome..


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what if he runs slower than 4.58?

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what if he runs slower than 4.58?


Then you pull his name off your board..


"Going from 4-12 to 6-10 isn't good enough. I believe we are going to be better than that. We're going to be a lot better than that." - Mike Holmgren (3/15/12)
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I just worry about the Mike Williams syndrome..




Is Mike Williams syndrome when a player gains 100 pounds and is out of the league in two years?

On a side note, I feel like these rookies will be playing harder because they have to earn their fat paychecks instead of just getting paid right when they come in the league.

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But wasn't Mike Williams playing hard earning his paycheck at USC?

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If Jeffrey runs in the 4.4s his stock will go through the roof and I am back to liking his potential to being a number 1 receiver. He has such a wide catching radius, has soft hands, can make the circus catch and runs great routes. The questions around him are his straight line speed and ability to get seperation.





I like him a lot as well, and if he's there at 22 I'd be dying to have him -- but I've never seen his routes characterized as "great" before -- they always looked a bit rounded to me.

That says, he has the best hands in this draft easily - the three most important components for a WCO receiver are hands,route running, and YAC,

I care much less about straight line speed, because we're not running many routes to beat man coverage deep. Also, in this new era where DBs can barely sneeze on a receiver and QBs are becoming more accurate - there's very little defenses can do to stop receivers with big size advantages. We like dual TE schemes in this offense - and having another WR who causes those sort of matchup problems would be a huge boost to the offense.

Jeffrey definitely has 2/3 - Floyd I think is the real deal for a WCO receiver -- but whether they are there at 22 will depend pretty heavily on their 40 times.

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the three most important components for a WCO receiver are hands,route running, and YAC,




Seems like those are the most important attributes for all wide receivers besides the ones drafted by Al Davis.

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Yes

But he lost all motivation when he entered the NFL and took a pay cut

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Seems like those are the most important attributes for all wide receivers besides the ones drafted by Al Davis.




Not necessarily - take the Pittsburgh run and gun offense from the last 10 years (or the "gun" only offense of the last two) - I definitely want that home run deep-threat in those sorts of offenses, even if there are a few drops involved.


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Kind of off topic, but seeing how the NFL and NCAA are beginning to allign with one another as far as discipline (see Terrell Pryor) I think they should implement a rule where if a player is caught breaking certain NCAA regulations (accepting monet from agents, etc) that they would be forbidden from partaking in the NFL combine. If players feared hurting their draft stock due to the reprucussions of their NCAA violations it may serve as a greater deterrent.


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I totally disagree. I think the NCAA is overreaching in their expectations of the athletes behavior off the field and to extend that to what is expressly a business would be in very poor taste.

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and the NFL would have none of it. once they played their last game, the NCAA has no jurisdiction over them anymore and the NFL is not about to give them that power.


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Teams would just work them out a different time. All the players already participate in Pro Days as it is.

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I agree with your premise, I think, that it's a crappy system when a kid breaks the rules, declares for the NFL.. then the coach gets slammed, the program gets slammed, the kids still on the team who did nothing wrong get slammed.. but the kid that broke the rules walks away without any real punishment...

But I still don't think your system will work. If you were an econ major and got caught cheating on a history test, the school can punish you but they can't prevent you from going to a job fair or an interview.. and that's basically what you are asking them to do.


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I tend to agree, many of their regulations are way out of line for today's day and age.


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But I still don't think your system will work. If you were an econ major and got caught cheating on a history test, the school can punish you but they can't prevent you from going to a job fair or an interview.. and that's basically what you are asking them to do.




excellent analogy man

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i'm very surprised not to see Adcock listed. he looked very good when I saw him play and thought that he was a surefire combine entrant. I do know he has a knee injury he is nursing.

guess that means we can just get him later in the draft?


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Well, according to their site their aim is to invite all prospects that will get drafted, they invited over 300 players....Adcock is ranked 247th by nfldraftscout and has a non draftable grade by PFW...I'm not agreeing with this, but just saying...maybe there is a medical or character or whatever red flag


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Stephen Hill from Georgia Tech is gonna dominate the combine

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`I liked Adcock as well but he is a guy that just never got down into a 3 point stance. I still have him as a 3-4 round grade but just like with the spread QBs, gotta project the spread OT's also.

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I agree with you about the NCAA overreaching views but aren't universities expressly a business?

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i'm very surprised not to see Adcock listed. he looked very good when I saw him play and thought that he was a surefire combine entrant. I do know he has a knee injury he is nursing.

guess that means we can just get him later in the draft?




It is surprising that he isn't listed. Adcock will be drafted and he'll be playing in the NFL. I guess they just needed to add some kickers and punters on the list of invitees.

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Wouldn't shock me if Alshon Jeffrey showed up fat and overweight

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Na ... He'll wait until after some fools draft him and then he will eat himself out of the League in 3-4 years.

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No doubt he's lost some luster.

I think he started to believe some of the things being said, which were true, then quit working. He needs to adjust his attitude. He is still a good prospect, but I'd take several receivers over him at this point.


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Pre-Combine News & Notes

14 Feb

As we move closer to the combine here’s the latest news and notes making their way around the scouting world as players, coaches and NFL decision makers prepare to descend on Indianapolis. Feb 14th: Updates on Toone, Burfict & Boykin

- Sources tell me the recent injury, or re-injury. to the foot of Nick Toon/WR/Wisconsin, continues to be an issue. Evidently in recent training for the combine, specifically when working on starts for the forty, Toone was experiencing significant foot pain. Everyone we’ve spoke with say its unlikely the Wisconsin receiver runs at the combine.

- On the other hand I’ve been told the reported broken leg suffered by Brandon Boykin/CB/Georgia at the Senior Bowl was nothing more than a leg injury and is a dead issue as far as teams are concerned. Boykin has been training for the combine and we hear he looks sharp. There’s been no definite word on whether or not he’ll run in Indianapolis.

- The buzz around Arizona State linebacker Vontaze Burfict unfortunately continues to be negative. I was told at the Senior Bowl when he showed up for combine training in January, Burfict looked soft and out of shape. Latest word has him completing less than 15 reps on the bench recently and Burfict has been slowed by a leg (hamstring) issue. All that we’ve talked with say the biggest issue surrounding the often times dominant linebacker is work ethic.

Feb 10th

- Many are still wondering what position Melvin Ingram will be playing in the NFL; Outside linebacker? Defensive end? Three technique tackle? Much will be determined by his combine workout, specifically his forty time. If what we’ve been told over the past few days comes to fruition those who project Ingram to outside linebacker will breathe easier.

I’ve been told expect Ingram to run in the 4.6’s at the combine, terrific speed for someone who tipped the scales at 276-pounds at the Senior Bowl. Someone that’s viewed Ingram’s recent workouts in recent weeks referred to him as “fast” and “athletic”. Another person familiar with the South Carolina program went a little deeper. Seems Ingram previously ran in the 4.4’s early in his Gamecock career, albeit 40-pounds ago and many are convinced a time in the 4.6’s, or possibly faster, is legitimate for the play making defender. If he runs close to the times Ingram will skyrocket up boards.

- A report surfaced on Twitter last week that Alabama safety Mark Barron underwent surgery to repair a double hernia and will be out until July. Sources I spoke with confirmed the report and it was double hernia surgery- at the Senior Bowl word was it was just single hernia. At the same time I was told the recovery should be no more than 4-to-6 weeks, 8 at the most, from the time the surgery was completed.

- Another pass rusher that’s looked good in combine training has been Syracuse junior Chandler Jones. I’m told the majority of teams presently grade Jones at defensive end on their draft board and think moving him to outside linebacker in a 3-4 is a stretch.

- I am also hearing Michael Floyd looks good and will run a forty time faster than anyone presently predicts. The good news is Floyd is healthy from the injuries which kept him from attending the Senior Bowl. The better news is he plans on running at the combine, barring any last week tweaks.

- Mike Adams combined terrific play during the Senior Bowl with solid interviews all week. Adams evidently answered all questions the scouts had about any perceived character issues. The former Buckeye continues to climb draft boards.

- Former Auburn tackle Brandon Mosely, who missed the Senior Bowl due to a bout of viral meningitis, is completely healthy and plans on working out at the combine.

- As we posted on Twitter, many were caught off guard when Miami-Ohio lineman Brandon Brooks was not invited to the combine. Brooks was the top player during Shrine practices and has been graded as a third rounder by a number of teams. Brooks will be one of the busiest post-combine players that travels the nation.

Ten teams have already told the big blocker they will bring him in as one of their allotted pre-draft visits. For Brooks these visits are likely to be more involved than other players flying visiting franchises. Teams will be completing full physicals and other work usually reserved for players at the combine when Brooks arrives at the facility.

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