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Hell, I can add 12 pounds just looking at an Olive Garden menu...... 
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I was envisioning a 12pound piece of cake. That's all. 
my wife has one of those in our fridge right now (4 layer sheet cake). for a neighbor kids birthday party. so wrong to have that in there tempting me to eat it 
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uh, what? This has got to be a mistake.
Published: February 24th, 2012 | Tags: 2012 NFL Scouting Combine, Justin Blackmon
INDIANAPOLIS — Oklahoma State WR Justin Blackmon said Friday he won’t run the 40-yard dash at this week’s NFL Scouting Combine because of a hamstring injury.
Blackmon, who measured at 6 feet and 170 pounds, previously told NFL Network’s Albert Breer that he planned to “do it all” at the combine, but Friday, he said his hamstring was “a little tender” and he wanted to be ready to run at his pro day next week.
“I was actually planning to run the day before I got here, but I listened to the people that are thinking of the best interests of me and decided not to,” Blackmon said.
When he does eventually run, Blackmon said he expects to impress.
“I’d like to run a 4.2, but I know that’s probably not going to happen,” Blackmon said. “I know I’m not slow. I’ll probably get out there and shock a few people.”
Blackmon caught 122 passes for 1,522 and 18 touchdowns last season for the Cowboys. He’s widely expected to be the first receiver taken in April’s draft.
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Wouldn't that mean that he's lost like 40 lbs and perhaps a couple of inches of height?????
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His height might not be far off, but I'd be pretty amazed if he was only 170 lbs.
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Justin Blackmon won’t run at combine Posted by Josh Alper on February 24, 2012, 2:12 PM EST Getty ImagesThe big question about Oklahoma State wide receiver Justin Blackmon’s ability to thrive at the professional level is his speed. Blackmon, projected to be the first receiver off the board, said Friday that he is planning to eliminate that concern. “I know I’m not slow,” Blackmon said, via Omar Kelly of the Sun-Sentinel. “I’m hoping to shock a few people.” He just won’t be shocking anyone at the NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis this weekend. Although Blackmon said previously that he would do everything in Indy, he changed course on Friday and announced he won’t run a 40-yard dash. Blackmon cited a hamstring injury for his decision, but there’s another good reason for his decision to wait a bit longer to display his speed. He’ll run his 40 at the Oklahoma State Pro Day on March 7th instead, a move that should pay off for him thanks to the differences in the two tracks. Indy’s track is slower than the one in Stillwater — 49ers running back Kendall Hunter posted a much better time at the college’s track last year — and that should pay off for Blackmon in a better result. Michael Floyd handles questions about “immaturity” Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on February 24, 2012, 1:15 PM EST APNotre Dame wide receiver Michael Floyd has a chance to be the No. 2 wideout taken in April. First, he says he has to prove to teams he can run and that he’s put his off-field problems behind him. Speaking at the Combine Friday, Floyd chalked up his multiple issues in college to immaturity. “All I can do is be honest, tell teams what happened, and go from there,” Floyd said. “It’s about making sure you don’t make the same mistake again. Floyd, who checked in at 6’2, 220 pounds, handled the barrage of questions on the topic well. He believes he’s an “all around” receiver and tries to pattern his game after Larry Fitzgerald. (Floyd’s best ability — to grab the ball at its highest point — is reminiscent of Fitz.)
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did he get switched with Kendall Wright at the weigh-in?
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http://www.walterfootball.com/combine2012WR.phpSorry for the rounding (excel's fault... it thinks heights are dates) Code:
Player School Height Weight Hand
Joe Adams Arkansas 5/11 179 9 3/8
Tim Benford Tennessee Tech 5/11 205 8 7/8
Travis Benjamin Miami 5/10 172 8 3/4
Justin Blackmon Oklahoma State 6/1 207 9 1/4
Jarrett Boykin Virginia Tech 6/2 217 10 1/4
Lavon Brazill Ohio 5/11 192 9 3/4
Ryan Broyles Oklahoma 5/10 192 9
Greg Childs Arkansas 6/3 219 10 1/8
Danny Coale Virginia Tech 6/1 201 9 1/8
Josh Cooper Oklahoma State 5/11 190 9 1/2
Juron Criner Arizona 6/3 224 10 1/2
B.J. Cunningham Michigan State 6/1 211 8 1/8
Pat Edwards Houston 5/9 172 8 3/8
Michael Floyd Notre Dame 6/3 220 9 3/8
Jeff Fuller Texas A&M 6/4 223 9 7/8
Chris Givens Wake Forest 5/11 198 8 1/4
T.J. Graham North Carolina State 5/11 188 9
Darius Hanks Alabama 6/1 184 9 1/2
Junior Hemingway Michigan 6/1 225 9 5/8
Stephen Hill Georgia Tech 6/4 215 9 3/8
T.Y. Hilton Florida International 5/10 183 8 1/2
Jerrell Jackson Missouri 6/1 196 9 1/4
Alshon Jeffery South Carolina 6/3 216 10 1/4
A.J. Jenkins Illinois 6/1 190 9 1/2
Dwight Jones North Carolina 6/3 230 9
Marvin Jones California 6/2 199 10 1/4
Jermaine Kearse Washington 6/1 209 9 1/4
Keshawn Martin Michigan State 6/1 188 9 1/4
Rishard Matthews Nevada 6/1 217 9 1/8
Marquis Maze Alabama 5/8 186 9
Marvin McNutt Iowa 6/3 216 10
Kashif Moore Connecticut 5/9 180 9 5/8
Derek Moye Penn State 6/4 209 8 1/4
Chris Owusu Stanford 6/1 196 8 1/2
Eric Page Toledo 5/9 186 9
DeVier Posey Ohio State 6/2 211 9 5/8
Brian Quick Appalachian State 6/4 220 9 3/4
Rueben Randle LSU 6/3 210 9 1/2
Gerell Robinson Arizona State 6/3 227 10 1/8
James Rodgers Oregon State 5/7 184 8 3/4
Mohamed Sanu Rutgers 6/2 211 10 1/8
Tommy Streeter Miami 6/5 219 9 1/2
Nick Toon Wisconsin 6/2 215 9
Jordan White Western Michigan 6/1 208 9 1/4
Jarius Wright Arkansas 5/10 182 8 1/2
Kendall Wright Baylor 5/10 196 8 5/8
Devon Wylie Fresno State 5/9 187 9 1/2
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RGIII is like the same exact size as a young McNabb coming out. Very similar arms and initial quickness in tight closing space, but RGIII has deep track speed and longer strides onces out and space, and lacks the core strength a McNabb did(but McNabb in his prime is stronger then 75% of the linebackers starting)
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so Greg Childs wins the measurement portion of the competition.
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Great to Jeffery weigh in at only 216 (and 10.25" hands) -- would love him at 22 if he could run a mid 4.5
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Great to Jeffery weigh in at only 216 (and 10.25" hands) -- would love him at 22 if he could run a mid 4.5
do you trust him to keep his weight and his motivation though? that's my fear with him (when he was playing "on" he was really good though)
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I hope this young man shows well at the combine !
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Jeffrey is on my "do not draft list". Dude was 270 pounds for South Carolina last year. What's he going to do when he starts getting those NFL checks?
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I can fully understand Jeffery's frustration. He would work hard beat his man only to watch the ball be underthrown by 15 yards and 10 yards out of bounds.
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So because your QB sucks you get fat? That makes perfect sense.
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Were you expecting a rational reason for an athlete about to turn pro getting fat??
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he was fat before the season started.
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His height might not be far off, but I'd be pretty amazed if he was only 170 lbs.
FYI Rivels.com has Blackmon with those measurements coming out of high school.
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Jeffrey is on my "do not draft list". Dude was 270 pounds for South Carolina last year. What's he going to do when he starts getting those NFL checks?
I've never seen that officially listed anywhere
I've seen a picture of him in pads and a jersey where he looks a bit pudgy -- everything else is just rumor.
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A little pudgy? He looked like a short nose tackle.
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He’ll run his 40 at the Oklahoma State Pro Day on March 7th instead, a move that should pay off for him thanks to the differences in the two tracks. Indy’s track is slower than the one in Stillwater — 49ers running back Kendall Hunter posted a much better time at the college’s track last year — and that should pay off for Blackmon in a better result.
Had never considered this before but they run the 40 at Indy on painted spongy artificial turf... do they let you run it on the track at your own proday? I would assume that would make you considerably faster.
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For as long as I've been paying attention to the combine, they've always said Indy's field is slow. I don't know why they run it there. Geography? Hotel prices?
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I think because it's a dome and it's geographical near the middle of all the teams.
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He’ll run his 40 at the Oklahoma State Pro Day on March 7th instead, a move that should pay off for him thanks to the differences in the two tracks. Indy’s track is slower than the one in Stillwater — 49ers running back Kendall Hunter posted a much better time at the college’s track last year — and that should pay off for Blackmon in a better result.
Had never considered this before but they run the 40 at Indy on painted spongy artificial turf... do they let you run it on the track at your own proday? I would assume that would make you considerably faster.
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40 times are so blasted over rated it's sad.
So, you won't run your 40 somewhere where you think it'll make you slow - you'll run it somewhere where it'll make you faster? Great.
Football is played on a football field, in uniforms, with pads. Sometimes it's turf, sometimes it's a muddy field.
There's this thing called "football speed", and for me, that trumps 40 times every time. EVERY time.
How many times does a guy get to show off his speed in the nfl? Seldom.
Quickness is much more important. How fast you get to top speed is important - 40 times are, at best, a foolish way to judge, at worst, just plain dumb.
Watch college tapes - that'll tell you all you need to know about a guys speed and quickness.
I know - everyone wants "specifics" for draft players - most of them don't mean much.
Can a guy play football or not - THAT is the question.
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Well, if I can add 25 lbs of lean mass in 6 months on my own without nutritionists and working out in my spare time, I would expect that a guy getting paid to be an athlete all day can add half that in half the time.
Well maybe not....not being critical of you here, and have seen you and you didn't look like a total wimp or anything, but there is a point of diminishing returns when adding body mass. It's easy to gain on the front end and harder the further along you go. Seeing as I know that guy is a lot bigger then you were when we met 4-5 years ago, he may not be able to add much more.
At what point does a person quit gaining mass? I don't know, but suspect it happens at some point or why don't some of these professional body builders end up 500lbs of muscle?
But, no doubt he can add some.
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I agree Arch, I think the Combine drills should be done in full pads and helmet. Qb's should take the Wonderlic with 5-6 big guys chasing them ... ok, that may be a bit extreme, but I do think it needs to be more about exhibiting football potential and not who's a track-athlete.
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Oh, no doubt... but we're talking about a kid that is still growing/maturing, not a fully matured adult.
We all know that we continue to grow a bit in our early 20's.... 12 lbs shouldn't be all that much for him to add.
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I agree Arch, I think the Combine drills should be done in full pads and helmet. Qb's should take the Wonderlic with 5-6 big guys chasing them ... ok, that may be a bit extreme, but I do think it needs to be more about exhibiting football potential and not who's a track-athlete.
I disagree. This is to give you baseline numbers. There is no better way to do this.
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It gives you a baseline of who's fast, agile, can leap, and is strong - in Under Armor. Bruce Jenner would have excelled at the Combine. The gear changes the athlete - cleats, full pads, and helmet slow you down, but would provide a truer picture of "football-athleticism" (a term I just made up, and may patent  ).
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It gives you a baseline of who's fast, agile, can leap, and is strong - in Under Armor. Bruce Jenner would have excelled at the Combine. The gear changes the athlete - cleats, full pads, and helmet slow you down, but would provide a truer picture of "football-athleticism" (a term I just made up, and may patent ).
Actually, that's a kinda neat idea. But I do see Peens point about it being a baseline. They are measurables.
But for true relevance you gotta see what they can do in pads..
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It gives you a baseline of who's fast, agile, can leap, and is strong - in Under Armor. Bruce Jenner would have excelled at the Combine. The gear changes the athlete - cleats, full pads, and helmet slow you down, but would provide a truer picture of "football-athleticism" (a term I just made up, and may patent ).
Bruce Jenner also wouldn't have years worth of film to watch. You can't take the numbers as a sole measurement, but rather just a piece of the pie. The piece isn't a huge piece, but it does have its place.
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jc... DeCastro showed why he is the best G in the draft. He could be the best OL in the draft. The footwork was simply phenomenal.
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They used DeCastro as the example of how to pull too. I thought that Cullen (OT-Utah) did a very nice job in the 'pulling drill'. His footwork wasn't bad either. He might move up a bit (projected as a 7th rounder - FA). He's showing something in these drills.
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It gives you a baseline of who's fast, agile, can leap, and is strong - in Under Armor. Bruce Jenner would have excelled at the Combine. The gear changes the athlete - cleats, full pads, and helmet slow you down, but would provide a truer picture of "football-athleticism" (a term I just made up, and may patent ).
Actually, that's a kinda neat idea. But I do see Peens point about it being a baseline. They are measurables.
But for true relevance you gotta see what they can do in pads..
I also think that when players run the 40 that they should have to use the football stance that their position would use i a game rather than a sprinter's stance. Any track athlete will tell you that coming out of your stance has more impact on your time than anything else. I don't remember the last time I saw a Wr line up and take a sprinter's stance.
Of course that begs the question, why not?
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For as long as I've been paying attention to the combine, they've always said Indy's field is slow. I don't know why they run it there. Geography? Hotel prices?
Awhile back (mid 80s or so) all the civic leaders in Indy got together to talk about how to brand their city... What could be their thing? What was something they could do to drive growth and to help their city become a national brand. Really Indy was way ahead of the curve and now many other cities do this too.
Anyhow what they decided in Indy was that they could be known as the collegiate and amateur sports capital of the US. Then the leaders went out and courted all the different governing bodies and major events, offering tax breaks and other incentives.
They hit a home run. But it also has snowballed on itself.
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Quickness is much more important.
I agree with this. I want to see explosiveness, not straight line speed. I like the guys that can hit the hole hard, or get that first step or two as a receiver. Then, if the RB or WR runs a 4.5 40, and you have a DB chasing him who ran a 4.3, that RB or WR is still going to pick up some big yards, if not score.
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