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True, they could get minni's pick, and that also benefits us, if they were to take Tannehill at 3. I just can't see him going that soon (nor @4), but anythings possible. Either way we can be set up to move down a few, pick up the extra picks and get solid contributors from the start. Perhaps even a couple of moves down.
Of course if the above did happen (mami to #3), and we stay at 4, it makes for a good debate, Kalil or ...
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The Seattle Seahawks have agreed to terms on a contract with former Packers quarterback Matt Flynn, the team announced Sunday.
The contract is for three years and $26 million with $10 million guaranteed, a league source told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.
Flynn agreed to a deal with Seattle after visiting both the Seahawks and the Miami Dolphins over the past week.
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Thanks for the update.
Biggest news of the day.
Now what will Miami do?
1) Go for Tannehill (trade up or take him at #8).
2) Pass and stick with Matt Moore?
3) Make a bid for Smith.
4) Other?
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Man, it would be so awesome if Miami traded up to 3 to get Tannehill  Steal a future first from STL for Kalil AND get Blackmon? Sign me up!
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Given their options, if I were them I would stick with Moore, and draft a guy behind him. That was you could be developing a guy while Moore plays, and hopefully he continues to get better. He looks like an average level QB, who can have some success in the right system/conditions. I wouldn't build around him, but if I wanted to take a developmental guy who will sit for a year or 2, Moore wouldn't terrify me as a short term solution.
At least Moore has some size, a decent arm, and the ability to throw far more TDs than INTs in the right system.
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Man, it would be so awesome if Miami traded up to 3 to get Tannehill
Steal a future first from STL for Kalil AND get Blackmon? Sign me up!
Why does Miami need to trade up? Unless they think we're taking Tannehill AT 4... Which if thats the plan... Ugh...
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there ya go bein a stick in the mud.
We need to get half our staff at A&M's pro day. Has this happened yet?
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Isn't this the same thought everyone had about Matt Moore after his 2009 season? I know he has a big arm and size, but won't Philbin be running some sort of West Coast offense. Doesn't that mean they would rather have accuracy and mobility?
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there ya go bein a stick in the mud.
We need to get half our staff at A&M's pro day. Has this happened yet?
I'd rather just call Miami up ourselves...
Why should Minnesota get a bunch of picks when we can, and if STL wanted Kalil that badley they should of stayed at 2...
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He seems to have decent accuracy. He completed 60% of his passes last year, and had a very respectable 7.2 yards/attempt. He had quite a number of big plays in the pass game too. I only got to see him play a little bit last year, but he had the look of a guy who might be seeing the lights come on.
As far as WCO type throws, he completed 78% of his passes behind the LOS, and 67.5% from 1-10 yards, and he was 53% from 11-20 yards. (By comparison, McCoy went 73.8%, 59.4%, and 44.6% on those throws)
Who knows?
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because I'd rather have Blackmon than what we could get at 8.
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Texas A&m already had their proday but Tannehill is gonna have a workout the 28th. Now if we like what we see, we will bring him in for a private workout and have him throw to our guys in our controlled setting.
Unless they dont allow that stuff anymore either. lol
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because I'd rather have Blackmon than what we could get at 8.
If we get Richardson at 8, and draft a guy like Jeffery in the 2nd, I'd be totally happy...
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Given their options, if I were them I would stick with Moore, and draft a guy behind him. That was you could be developing a guy while Moore plays, and hopefully he continues to get better. He looks like an average level QB, who can have some success in the right system/conditions. I wouldn't build around him, but if I wanted to take a developmental guy who will sit for a year or 2, Moore wouldn't terrify me as a short term solution.
At least Moore has some size, a decent arm, and the ability to throw far more TDs than INTs in the right system.
I actually liked what I saw from Matt Moore last season (don't know how well he projects in their new WCO) and Tannehill probably will not come in and start right at first. Doesn't mean that they won't draft him, but if I'm Miami I'm thinking about replacing Brandon Marshall's talents at WR.
If that's the case then we could very well see Tannehill drop to #22.
Much will I think hinge on what he does at his pro-day.
I don't mind so much not getting a day one starter at the QB position at 22, but if I'm taking him in the top 10, then he should be able to start by mid season.
I just hope we don't reach for him at #4, because we really need an day one impact player there for sure.
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If that's the case then we could very well see Tannehill drop to #22.
If he drops that far I think you'll see a Quinn/Tebow trade up.
I'd be ecstatic if we got another first and a 2 or 3 this year and gave someone Tannehill at #22, I just assume whoever trades up for him will be looking to jump us at 22...
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If that's the case then we could very well see Tannehill drop to #22.
If he drops that far I think you'll see a Quinn/Tebow trade up.
I'd be ecstatic if we got another first and a 2 or 3 this year and gave someone Tannehill at #22, I just assume whoever trades up for him will be looking to jump us at 22...
Yeah, The Bungals might be obliging at #21.
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because I'd rather have Blackmon than what we could get at 8.
If we get Richardson at 8, and draft a guy like Jeffery in the 2nd, I'd be totally happy...
hmmm.. interesting.. i like it actually.
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j/c - wanted to get people's thoughts on something. The talking heads I've been listening to on Sirius NFL radio, seem to think that Tennessee will end up with Manning, putting Hasselbeck on the market. I'm not sure if I would want Cleveland to sign him or not...I watched him for 8 years in Seattle as a season ticket holder, and think of him very highly as a QB. That being said, he was injured a lot the last couple seasons in Seattle... I didn't really pay attention to him in Tenn, but stats show he had a typical season with a few extra INTs. He knows the offense, and obviously Holmgren knows his game. I'd think we'd probably at least talk to him, if not bring him in. As I said, in the beginning of this paragraph, I'm not sure he'd b worth bringing in, unless we cut Wallace. At minimum he could teach Colt and be a very good backup - at best, he could be the guy in 2005 or 2007 for us. I'm torn...what does everyone else think?
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If I thought Hasselbeck could put us in the SB this or next year, then yes...
But as superior to McCoy as he may be, I'd rather just run the table with Colt this year, see what we have, and move on from there...
IMO, if we had Hasselbeck last year we'd of made the playoffs...
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j/c - wanted to get people's thoughts on something. The talking heads I've been listening to on Sirius NFL radio, seem to think that Tennessee will end up with Manning, putting Hasselbeck on the market. I'm not sure if I would want Cleveland to sign him or not...I watched him for 8 years in Seattle as a season ticket holder, and think of him very highly as a QB. That being said, he was injured a lot the last couple seasons in Seattle... I didn't really pay attention to him in Tenn, but stats show he had a typical season with a few extra INTs. He knows the offense, and obviously Holmgren knows his game. I'd think we'd probably at least talk to him, if not bring him in. As I said, in the beginning of this paragraph, I'm not sure he'd b worth bringing in, unless we cut Wallace. At minimum he could teach Colt and be a very good backup - at best, he could be the guy in 2005 or 2007 for us. I'm torn...what does everyone else think?
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I can just see Randy's eyes rolling in his head. We signed Jake to do the exact same thing and paid him how much, for how many games ? I just don't know if we are even looking at FA QB's at this point. He would want at least what Flynn just got and whatever team gets left with no QB after the Manning musical chair stops.. will outbid us without even trying.
Would he be released out right ? Cap considerations for each team ? Can they trade him for a pick or player and the new team pick up his remaining contract ?
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I've got no issue with Hasselback.
As a player, he's FAR superior to Jake Delhomme. I watched him play us last year and was definitely impressed. Might not take us to a superbowl, but we'll definitely be a much better team with him. It would give us time to get some talent on the team and let our QBs develop in this system
Makes me wonder now why we didn't get the guy last year. We definitely would have been a lot better
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I agree. Jake got by on limited skill and tons of guts and determination. Once the skills started to fade, his game faded quickly. Hasselback has skills that haven't faded and seemingly have in some areas gotten better. If Manning goes to Tennessee, which I doubt, I think SF is in the drivers seat there, I would expect we give Hasselback a call. But then again, what I expect and what we do are two different things. 
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It scares me a little that everyone is scrambling for QB's outside of the draft.
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I still have this feeling that Manning will wind up in Denver.
Don;t know why ..... just a feeling.
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The Seattle Seahawks have agreed to terms on a contract with former Packers quarterback Matt Flynn, the team announced Sunday.
The contract is for three years and $26 million with $10 million guaranteed, a league source told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.
Flynn agreed to a deal with Seattle after visiting both the Seahawks and the Miami Dolphins over the past week.
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Cortland Finnegan has no idea what you're talking about...
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Ok,, so sometimes it works out the way it's supposed to... but then you have a Flynn who was pegged as the perfect match for Miami because Philbin was the new HC..
Maybe,, just maybe, Philbin and Flynn never got along...
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I think Miami has had one of the worst offseasons (two if you count courting Harbaugh)
Lose out on Fisher, Manning, Trade their best player for 2 3rds, Apparently Low Balled Flynn possibly to the point of pushing him to Seattle...
And they are having 5 hours meetings with... Alex Smith?
Way to go Jeffery Ross.
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Seattle's GM has a very close relationship with Flynn and led the charge to draft Flynn when he was with the Packers.
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You know how we are always trying to draw lines between players and coaches and how because they have history that this place or that place might be the perfect fit and that's fur sure where they will end up?
Right. And Tannehill's college coach is Miami's OC.
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You know how we are always trying to draw lines between players and coaches and how because they have history that this place or that place might be the perfect fit and that's fur sure where they will end up?
Right. And Tannehill's college coach is Miami's OC.
Yeah, but Tannehill's College Coach's former Boss is our Team President!
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Getting Smith willnot preclude them from drafting Tannenhill,if that is their plan.
Smith will be the seatwarmer until tannenhill is ready.Actually that might be the perfect fit the kid.
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Ahh,, wasn't aware of that.. so maybe there is some truth to it.,.,
BUT,, what was being talked about? FLYNN and MIAMI was, according to most reports,, A sure thing..
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Apparently Low Balled Flynn possibly to the point of pushing him to Seattle...
So, lowballing Flynn, with his old coach as part of the staff in Miami. What should we read into that, if anything?
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Panthers signed RB Mike Tolbert to a four-year contract.
Let the Jonathan Stewart trade speculation begin. Tolbert is an adept short-yardage runner and big contributor in the passing game, but his signing is curious for a team that already has Stewart, DeAngelo Williams and Mike Goodson under contract. Regardless of whether or not Stewart is retained, Tolbert should be in for far fewer snaps than he played in San Diego, and may not even be a consistent goal-line option with QB Cam Newton thriving in the role last year. A fringe fantasy option outside of PPR leagues last season, Tolbert could have a hard time finding value in 2012.
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Crazy....Heckert either really likes our RBs or he has already some draft targets...Tolbert to the Panthers makes no sense, but if the Panther really want to trade Stewart, I'd listen....lifetime 4.8yds/run and last season he caught 47 balls too....he's 24yo and under contract for only 2012 at just over 1.3mil....I think he could be aquired for a 4th on the cheap...I would do that in a heartbeat
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