Quote: Hey Okla. St put up a ton of points each game, so that would have to translate to the NFL, right?
No, they have this special system that allows them to put up points easily and for their players to put up gaudy numbers... Anybody could thrive in their system... the reason other schools don't use it is because they prefer the challenge of struggling to score points.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
Quote: Hey Okla. St put up a ton of points each game, so that would have to translate to the NFL, right?
No, they have this special system that allows them to put up points easily and for their players to put up gaudy numbers... Anybody could thrive in their system... the reason other schools don't use it is because they prefer the challenge of struggling to score points.
The University of Houston begs to differ about any special system you speak of.
"Going from 4-12 to 6-10 isn't good enough. I believe we are going to be better than that. We're going to be a lot better than that." - Mike Holmgren (3/15/12)
Quote: Their mock has us taking Richardson at 4, Wright at 22, and Weeden at 37.
If that could happen, I would absolutely be thrilled.
You know what, I like that idea as well.
I know we can't take Tannehill at #4.
I just know that these guys need to have another option on board so when the season falls apart under Colt, they have something to throw out there, and nothing better than a rookie. Rookies buy shaky front offices time.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
Quote: Their mock has us taking Richardson at 4, Wright at 22, and Weeden at 37.
If that could happen, I would absolutely be thrilled.
You know what, I like that idea as well.
I know we can't take Tannehill at #4.
I just know that these guys need to have another option on board so when the season falls apart under Colt, they have something to throw out there, and nothing better than a rookie. Rookies buy shaky front offices time.
I believe we are going offense in first round, and Blackmon is a "production" pick in scoring. But then I also felt great about Touchdown Tommy years ago. Geez, I even liked watching Ben Gay run for awhile, so disregard MY intuition. But if we can generate more offense WITH McCoy, I think we get more out of the draft this time. Hoping Heck works some of that later-round magic.
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Posted by Josh Alper on March 28, 2012, 9:21 AM EDT
After Mike Holmgren blew his stack about the Rams dealing the second overall pick to the Redskins, you wouldn’t think the Browns and Rams would be making any deals this offseason.
Things can change pretty quickly in the NFL, though, and there’s a chance that the teams could make a deal of their own involving first round draft picks. Speaking at the owners meetings on Wednesday, Rams coach Jeff Fisher said that he had no hard feelings about Holmgren’s comments and that he sees the Browns’ fourth overall pick as a potential trade target.
“Yeah, I would think so,” Fisher said, via Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain-Dealer. “I don’t know if we’d consider going that high. Those conversations aren’t going to take place until draft day because your guy’s got to be there. It’ll be interesting to see what kind of compensation they want. We’re very happy with the compensation we’ve got right now over the next couple of years.”
If the Rams did move back up to the fourth pick, it would likely be a bid to get Oklahoma State wide receiver Justin Blackmon. Assuming they like him, the Browns could then take Texas A&M QB Ryan Tannehill with the sixth pick while picking up something extra for their trouble. That whole scenario could get complicated if the Dolphins were to move up for their own shot at Tannehill, but we’ll try to keep the wild speculation about something that will happen a month from now at a minimum.
Fisher said there’s a good chance the Rams will move up or move down from the sixth spot come draft day. He also said that the team fielded trade offers for Sam Bradford. It’s not known if the Browns were one of the bidders, although Pat Shurmur’s history with Bradford suggests that they might have thrown the idea in the Rams’ direction at some point.
I would not be surprised if the parameters have already been agreed to. These trades are usually put in place at the owners meeting just like last year with the FAlcons.
Tom Compton, South Dakota: Among the best offensive line prospects that no one seems to be talking about, Compton's size (size), athleticism (5.11) and tenacity in the running game make him one of the more intriguing right tackle prospects in the 2012 draft. Compton wasn't highly recruited out of high school due to the fact that he tore his ACL as a senior but he dominated at the FCS level and enjoyed a strong week of practice at the East-West Shrine Game.
^this
I would like us to take a flyer on with one of our later picks on (even if we draft another tackle) and I see a good reason to hedge our bets here too, because our depth is also sorely lacking at OT.
we should draft all the right tackles (who can play) we can...
Quote: If it happens, I hope we charge the Rams out the nose.
I drool at the thought of MORE picks . . .
Not responding to just you -- but why do people say things like this constantly?
You do what's best for your team - it doesn't matter that the Rams traded to the Redskins and not us. The Rams aren't even in our conference, much less our division, so helping them out is neither good or bad.
In general going from #6 to #4 should only cost a third round pick. We might be able to finagle a 2nd rounder.
I don't believe the Tannehill bit from the Browns front office. I assume our 5 players are Kalil, Claiborne, Richardson, Blackmon and Ingram. I think the draft would go like:
I would be giddy like a school girl if it played out like that....use the extra pick, hopefully a 2nd from the Rams, on a RB/WR/OT. Combine that with our late first and early 2nd already......MMMMMMMmmmmmmm!
“...Iguodala to Curry, back to Iguodala, up for the layup! Oh! Blocked by James! LeBron James with the rejection!”
Alshon Jeffery timed in 4.4-4.5 range at Pro Day Posted by Evan Silva on March 28, 2012, 11:51 AM EDT Alshon Jeffery, Nickoe Whitley AP
South Carolina wide receiver Alshon Jeffery caught some criticism when he opted out of all testing at last month’s Scouting Combine. Jeffery didn’t even go through on-field drills. He only weighed in.
Jeffery participated in the Gamecocks’ Pro Day on Wednesday, however, and may have helped his draft stock. Scouts on hand timed his forty-yard dash in the high-4.4 to low-4.5 range, according to Kevin Weidl of ESPN Scouts Inc. SI.com’s Tony Pauline had Jeffery at 4.55 on his first run. Jeffery also weighed in at 213, down three pounds from his Combine weigh-in.
He’s clearly prioritized losing weight during the offseason.
Per the Gamecocks’ sports website, Jeffery registered a 10-foot, 2-inch broad jump and 36.5-inch vertical leap. They’re both solid if unspectacular measurements for a 6-foot-3, 213-pound receiver.
The impressive workout may force NFL evaluators to go back and watch Jeffery’s game tape. What they’ll find, according to NFL Network draft analyst Mike Mayock, is that Jeffery does not create separation from defensive backs downfield and isn’t worth a first-round pick. web page
Quote: If it happens, I hope we charge the Rams out the nose.
I drool at the thought of MORE picks . . .
Not responding to just you -- but why do people say things like this constantly?
You do what's best for your team - it doesn't matter that the Rams traded to the Redskins and not us. The Rams aren't even in our conference, much less our division, so helping them out is neither good or bad.
In general going from #6 to #4 should only cost a third round pick. We might be able to finagle a 2nd rounder.
I don't believe the Tannehill bit from the Browns front office. I assume our 5 players are Kalil, Claiborne, Richardson, Blackmon and Ingram. I think the draft would go like:
I think that Fisher would be looking for Kalil to drop to us if the Vikings trade out of the 3 spot and we better get at least a 2nd round pick this year (I'll take #33) and perhaps more picks next year? We still might be looking at Blackmon at 6. I think TB will target either Claiborne or Richardson, so one of those two could be another option at 6. TB could possibly take Kalil at 5 if we where to pass. He is a top 3 talent.
Quote: We would ask for a 2nd round. That would be it. When no idiots are involved in the trade, it tends to drop the pricetag.
i think people are still feeling out what the pricetag "should" be this year though since trading up from #6 to #4 doesn't include an extra $15mil or so in contract costs anymore.
Quote: The impressive workout may force NFL evaluators to go back and watch Jeffery’s game tape. What they’ll find, according to NFL Network draft analyst Mike Mayock, is that Jeffery does not create separation from defensive backs downfield and isn’t worth a first-round pick.
I have a problem with this statement.
Is anyone going to take Jeffry in the top 10? No obviously not.
But if Jeffry can't create seperation from College CBs, why should I assume he'd ever be able to do it from average to good NFL ones?
And if that's the case, why is he worth "a second round pick"?
So the Giants should stay away at 32, but Hey St Louis he's a great pick at 33?
Am I the only one that pronounces hyperbole "Hyper-bowl" instead of "hy-per-bo-le"?
Quote: If it happens, I hope we charge the Rams out the nose.
I drool at the thought of MORE picks . . .
I think that the swap of this year's firsts, a first next year from St. Louis (whichever is higher) and both 2nd rounders this year should be able to get the job done.
Quote: If it happens, I hope we charge the Rams out the nose.
I drool at the thought of MORE picks . . .
I think that the swap of this year's firsts, a first next year from St. Louis (whichever is higher) and both 2nd rounders this year should be able to get the job done.
Nah, to make it fair we should swap Hardesty for Steven Jackson... Help them get a little more youth on their roster...
Am I the only one that pronounces hyperbole "Hyper-bowl" instead of "hy-per-bo-le"?
Quote: We would ask for a 2nd round. That would be it. When no idiots are involved in the trade, it tends to drop the pricetag.
And I'd take it in a second -- we have so many holes to fill, and you can get great talent around #39 (I assume we'd get the redskins slightly lower 2nd)
Quote: Heckert better find me a RT before we hit the fourth round !
What if he can find a better right tackle in the 5th or 6th round?
Picks 100, 118, 139, and 160, could really make this draft. That, though, they might not even stay at those spots.
I'll agree that picks over 200, or 190ish are just similar to UDFA camp invites. In the 28 team old days the 5th round would have ENDED at pick 140. and the 4th round would have STARTED at pick 85.
Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
Quote: Why should we give up the oppurtunity to take a High quality Prospect without High Quality compensation
Exactly....We need play makers...True playmakers normally dont last past the 10th pick, unless there is charator issues....I understand we have alot of holes, but we need to start getting a couple playmakers and trading down makes it difficult for us to draft them.
Exactly....We need play makers...True playmakers normally dont last past the 10th pick, unless there is charator issues....I understand we have alot of holes, but we need to start getting a couple playmakers and trading down makes it difficult for us to draft them.
Really?
The ten top RBs (in yards gained) last year were all drafted out of the top 10.
Eight of the top ten WRs (in yards gained) were drafted out of the top ten (C. Johnson, L. Fitzgerald)
Five of the top ten QBs (in yards gained) were drafted out of the top ten (M. Stafford, E. Manning, P. Rivers, M. Ryan, C. Newton)
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