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Reds' Ryan Madson out for 2012

GOODYEAR, Ariz. -- Cincinnati Reds closer Ryan Madson has a torn ligament in his pitching elbow and will miss the season.

Madson returned to Cincinnati and was examined by team medical director Dr. Timothy Kremchek. The Reds said Saturday that Kremchek told general manager Walt Jocketty the ligament was torn from the bone of Madson's right elbow.

Madson agreed in January to a one-year contract guaranteeing $8.5 million, after a $44 million, four-year deal to stay with Philadelphia collapsed in November.

Jocketty says: "We talked to the team. We all have to stay positive. We have alternatives internally that we will sort through in the next few days."

Crap!

Ouch!

You know Baker is itching to put Chapman back into the bullpen. This might be his [crappy] excuse.

I dunno they have Marshall who is more than capable of closing and Bray to be a lefty setup man. I think they need to keep working on Chapman as a starter because IMO Arroyo is gonna get lit up this year and may be moved.

I agree with you. But Baker is horrible.

Well, with Madsen out, and Marshall moving into the closer role, that leaves Bray as the only lefty out of the pen for middle relief. It makes sense.

Chapman probably would have started the year in AAA.

Chapman showed last year he doesn't have the arm to pitch consecutive days, hes a starter, keep him as one. Zavada isn't a bad option to take the other lefty spot.

What makes you think Zavada would be a decent option?

It would have been ideal for Chapman to start the year in AAA to continue working at being a starter again. A nice insurance for the rotation. Unfortunately with the Madsen injury, it doesn't appear that's going to happen.

Our bullpen is so deep that I completely forgot about Ondrusek. He should set up.

For all my friends who are Reds fans on this board, I'm sorry to hear this news

I am proud to say that I have had a successful Reds bypass operation (triple shunt) and follow the Tribe when I can. But this is a tough break for my friends who favor them, especially this close to season. My condolences. Buthey, baseball is just something we do until the real men heal! Hurry up draft!

Ugh -----and there goes Masset to the DL, I didn't even like him that much but our depth is about to be tested.

I am just happy to see baseball season start this week.......GO REDS!

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Joey Votto and the Reds have agreed to a ten-year, $225MM contract extension according to Bob Nightengale of USA Today. The deal includes full no-trade protection. Dan Lozano of Icon Sports Group represents Votto.

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WOW!!!! Shocked and Happy!

Castillini must believe that we're going to fill the seats, I never thought I would see a Red earn that much in my lifetime.

He'll be 37 or 38 when that contract ends ......

I hope for your team's sake that he doesn't fall flat after the signing like Hafner did for us.

These deals always look great when the guy signs them and is in his prime. Then he gets old and is still getting paid like he is in his prime.

See: Rodriguez, Alex

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Well it's no secret if you want to keep your superstars, you are going to have to pay.

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Evan Longoria and Troy Tulowitzki don't agree.

Baker: Chapman will begin season in bullpen

Right-hander Bailey wins final spot in Reds' starting rotation


By AJ Cassavell / Special to MLB.com | 04/02/12 3:30 PM ET


GOODYEAR, Ariz. -- Dusty Baker would like to have two Aroldis Chapmans -- one for his bullpen and one for his starting rotation.

But the Reds' manager is happy enough that he has one, and on Monday Baker announced that the flame-throwing lefty will start the season in the bullpen. That means right-hander Homer Bailey will begin the season in the starting rotation, and he'll pitch against the Cardinals on April 9.

"That was a very tough decision -- very, very tough because Chapman could either be one of our best starters or our best relievers," Baker said. "It's a situation where with the injuries that we have, and starting out early in the season where the starters are lucky to go five or six innings, we need to shore up our bullpen."

Bailey's inclusion fills out the starting rotation. Johnny Cueto will pitch the club's season opener against Miami, followed by Mat Latos, Bronson Arroyo, Bailey and Mike Leake.

Baker said the struggles of lefty Bill Bray partially led to his decision to put Chapman in the bullpen. Baker said Bray "isn't a candidate right now to be a late-inning lefty guy," meaning Baker is planning to use Chapman in a very prominent relief role deep in games.

In the spring, Chapman looked very good in what many thought was his audition for a starting role. He went 2-0 with a 2.12 ERA in five appearances -- four of them starts. But he has yet to start a regular-season game, going 6-3 with a 3.27 ERA in his 69 appearances over two seasons with the Reds.

Baker reiterated that nothing is set in stone with his pitching staff -- or the rest of the roster. That's especially true now with his decision to start the season with 14 position players and 11 pitchers because of an early off-day.

The team will re-evaluate and possibly adjust the roster this weekend, depending on how well the pitching staff is preserved through the season's first couple of games.

"That's the story of this whole year," Baker said. "Until we get everything back together, it could be one of those dot-dot-dots -- to be continued."

As for Bailey, who gets the start after he went 9-7 with a 4.43 ERA last season, the thought of facing the Cardinals in the two teams' first meeting of the season is a prospect that has him excited.

"I haven't really thought about it like that, but I guess it sounds pretty cool," Bailey said of facing the defending champs. "It's just the first game of the season, though. It's a team that we know the hitters quite a bit so that brings some comfort."

This spring, Bailey is 1-2 with a 7.98 ERA in five starts, though he's confident enough with the finish to his Cactus League season to carry some positives into the regular season.

"Spring's kind of always the same," Bailey said. "For a pitcher, you're working on your fastball location and start working your way through and build your innings. My last game through, I finished. I threw well, and it's back into baseball mode."

SS Paul Janish was optioned to Triple-A Louisville, which means the roster is set with 14 position players and 11 pitchers. Below is the Reds 25-man roster

Starting pitchers

1. Johnny Cueto
2. Mat Latos
3. Bronson Arroyo
4. Mike Leake
5. Homer Bailey

Bullpen

LHP Sean Marshall
LHP Aroldis Chapman
RHP Logan Ondrusek
LHP Bill Bray
RHP Jose Arredondo
RHP Sam LeCure

Infielders

1B Joey Votto
2B Brandon Phillips
SS Zack Cozart
3B Scott Rolen
INF Miguel Cairo
INF Wilson Valdez

Catchers

Devin Mesoraco
Ryan Hanigan

Outfielders

Jay Bruce
Drew Stubbs
Chris Heisey
Ryan Ludwick

Utility

INF/OF Willie Harris
INF/OF Todd Frazier

Disabled list

RHP Ryan Madson
RHP Nick Masset
RHP Jordan Smith

So dumb. Chapman should have been sent to the minors and stretched out. Bullpen arms are the easiest thing to find in baseball.

I think it will work, they have a good young core in place and most of that core is under contract for the next few years. Although signing Phillips appears unlikely now, which I hate to see.

And if it's not working out in a few years you deal him off to a contender for prospects. And yes, that's the first scenario that pops into my head since things normally don't work out.

But for now I shall remain optimistic, I don't get this feeling much so I'm going to enjoy it while I can.

Nice, solid, opening day win for the Reds.

I think you guys have the team to beat in the Central and am tired of hearing about the Cardinals. They no doubt have a good team, but you don't take Albert away from that lineup and then lose Carpenter to injury and think they're the team to beat. The Brewers have a couple good arms and a couple good arms in the pen - and a fraud left fielder - but again, you don't take Fielder away and it doesn't matter. Plus I hate that team. lol.

The Reds made another significant financial commitment on Tuesday, giving All-Star second baseman Brandon Phillips a six-year, $72.5 million contract.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/reds-2b-phi...j.Me7lyZK05nYcB

I'll say one thing for you Reds, you're certainly making your push. Good now - but that's gonna be a rich, old left side of the infield in a few years.

I hate to put any stock in local talk radio, but the host was saying the Reds have a 4 billion $ tv deal on the horizon.

Maybe there's truth to that with these signings, I hope.

I love the Phillips deal, now if they could just figure out how to beat the cards.

Uhhhh, I was speaking from the perspective of the outfielders looking in.

Clearly.

4 runs in 3 days, and a whopping 2 hits today.

I hate seeing quality starts going to waste, especially one from Bailey.

Yeah we acquired all these arms because we were such a great offense with shabby pitching. The pitching has held up its end, its time for the bats to hold up theirs

On a side note, Dusty kind of irked me with his postgame comment yesterday.

"I even asked the umpire one time, 'Man, are we that bad or is he that good?' And he said, 'Hey, he was that good," said Cincinnati manager Dusty Baker

Looks like Dusty is back to his old excuses. "No it wasn't our fault we couldn't score today, the pitcher was just really good." How about the 2 games before that or the 4 out of the last 5 we've lost because we can't score runs?

Finally got an RBI out of the clean up spot today.

Rolen is finished, could probably plug Janish in at 3rd and get more offense.

Bruce should be moved to cleanup ASAP. Why Dusty continues to bat Rolen 4th is mind boggling. Rolen should bat no higher than 6th or 7th.

Big series coming up against St. Louis. Two out of three would be great.

Dusty loves the veterans, for some reason he seems to always play the vets thinking they will rekindle what they used to have. If I was manager, Heisey would start everyday instead of Ludwick, and Rolen wouldn't be playing either, maybe a trade between Indians and Reds for Hannahan, same D and maybe a better stick right now for the Reds. Then Indians could bring back a hot Chisenhall.