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I was looking for a "your dream draft" thread, but I only found the "draft nightmare" thread. So here goes...


1. IND: QB Luck, Stanford
2. WAS: QB Griffin, Baylor

I want HHS to convince me that they're taking Tannehill at 4. I want it to be so obvious that they think Tannehill is great and that they're going to draft him that Miami offers a big deal to Minny that they can't pass up... something like this year's 1st and 3rd and next year's first so Minny has to move down.

3. MIA (f/ MIN): QB Tannehill, A&M

Now Kalil is on the board. St. Louis, Jacksonville, Minnesota, and Buffalo are all interested in moving up. We convince STL that Buffalo has offered #10 plus 2013 1st, but we'd take their #6, #33, and #39. They still come out way ahead in their move down for Griffin and get they player they covet and take the deal.

4. STL (f/ CLE): OT Kalil, USC

Right here, everyone starts talking about Trent Richardson. The camera has already been on him when the Browns were on the clock and he started to get nervous... the phone wasn't ringing and eventually his agent calls him to make him look busy. How could the top offensive non-QB prospect not get picked here? Tampa turns in the card.

5. TB: CB Claiborne, LSU

Well, now the draftcasters talk about what a great move the Browns made. Got two extra picks in the second and now they can draft Richardson. Cleveland burns up most of their clock and the cameras keep showing Richardson, who is not getting a call. Cut to Justin Blackmon, whose phone is ringing.

6. CLE: WR Blackmon, Ok. St.
7. JAX: WR Floyd, ND
8. CAR: DL Cox, Miss St.
9. MIN: CB Kirkpatrick, Alabama
10. BUF: OT Reiff, Iowa
11. KC: NT Poe, Memphis
12. SD (f/ SEA): OLB Ingram, South Carolina
13. AZ: OT Martin, Stanford
14. DAL: OG Glenn, Georgia
15. PHI: LB Keuchly, BC
16. NYJ: LB Upshaw, Alabama
17. CIN: OG DeCastro, Stanford
18. SEA (f/ SD): Dont'a Hightower
19. CHI: DT Brockers, LSU

After Tennessee loses out on their target, the Browns call Tennessee to jump Cincinatti for Richardson, offering #22, #118, + #160. Tennessee takes the free picks.

20. CLE (f/ TEN): RB Richardson, Alabama
21. CIN: WR Hill, GT
22. TEN (f/ CLE): CB Gilmore, South Carolina (lost Cortland Finnegan)

Detroit is bummed out now that the top 3 corner prospects are all gone, as corner and OL are their primary needs, and there are no players at those positions who are a good value. The phone rings as Detroit is looking to trade down. Everyone is shocked whent hey see the team image on the "on the clock" screen...

23. CLE (f/ DET): WR K. Wright, Baylor (trades #33 + #67)
24. PIT: WR Reuben Randle, LSU
25. DEN: DT Jerel Worthy, MSU
26. HOU: OT Adams, OSU (would have liked to take a WR here, but the cupboard is bare... need to replace Winston, couldn't find a trade-down partner)
27. NE (f/ NO): OLB Mercilus, Illinois
28. GB: OLB Perry, USC
29. BAL: OG Zeitler, Wisconsin
30. SF: WR Jeffrey, South Carolina
31. NE: OG Silatolu, Midwestern St.
32. NYG: TE Coby Fleener, Stanford

Round 2:
33. DET (f/ STL via CLE): Alfonso Dennard, CB Nebraska
34. IND: Mohammed Sanu, WR Rutgers
35. MIN: Devon Still, DT Penn St.
36. TB: Doug Martin, RB Boise St
37. CLE: Lavonte David, OLB Nebraska
38. JAX: Andre Branch, DE Clemson
39. PHI (from WAS via STL and CLE): Mark Barron, SS Alabama (traded for 51 and 88)

Andy Reid doesn't "goof" this time around.

I'd like to type more, but my wife wants me to go to bed. Here's the rest of the Browns:

51. CLE (f/ AZ via PHI) Brandon Brooks, OL Miami (Oh)
88. CLE (f/ HOU via PHI) Brandon Mosley, OT Auburn
100. CLE Ron Brooks, CB LSU
139. CLE Brandon Taylor, SS LSU
204. CLE Austin Davis, QB So Miss
205. CLE Akiem Hicks, DT Regina
211. CLE Coty Sensabaugh, CB Clemson
245. CLE Julian Miller, DE WVU
247. CLE Tysyn Hartman, FS KSU

Looks pretty good but I don't see Minn. moving back and passing up on Reiff for Kirpatrick. Their OL needs are top priority this draft. I would bet that they are steadfast all-in for Kalil. But It is a nice dream.

I think Richardson has a chance to fall in the draft as well. But I don't see him slipping past NYJ. They love the hype and high profile players and he would be a great fit for their offense to help out Sanchez.

or Tebow.

Just that easy?
The first ( What the) I see is you hope Cincinnati would take DeCastro at 17 and want Richardson at 21.
They would just take Richardson at 17 because DeCastro's more likely to fall 4 spots there.

My view on that...

Cincy needs an OG. So does SD who picks 18. So does CHI who picks 19. SD, CHI, and TEN probably don't take RBs. CIN won't have a shot at a value lineman at 21, so they go for the lineman first. They also have BJGE on the roster.

Cincy doesn't need a OG that badly, they have Boling who they drafted in the 4th rnd last year and seem to like and they signed Travelle Wharton and Jacob Bell in Free Agency.

Ok, so Cliff Notes version:

Blackmon, Richardson, K.Wright, Brandon-X - day1 starters on offense
L. David - day1 starter on defense

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100. CLE Ron Brooks, CB LSU - battle Dmitri for CB2 job
139. CLE Brandon Taylor, SS LSU - at least rotational for us
***everybody else is just a flier but that's what you get in the 200s***
204. CLE Austin Davis, QB So Miss
205. CLE Akiem Hicks, DT Regina
211. CLE Coty Sensabaugh, CB Clemson
245. CLE Julian Miller, DE WVU
247. CLE Tysyn Hartman, FS KSU


My thoughts:
I like Sanu better than K.Wright in general, but with Little/Blackmon I agree that we need a small speedster in the mix.

Really hope that Richardson is everything that we hope he is if we would trade up for him there. Bama had an amazing OL and while Richardson looked great, he also had an amazing OL. We could get a better RT and still have a couple picks to target a trade up later if we went with one of the other RBs. It would certainly add spice to the draft talk though.

I love what you did with the defense since you took possibly my 2 favorite under-rated guys (though they are becoming much less so on these boards lately). If Hagg or Taylor could nail down the 2nd S spot and Ward could stay healthy, then we could actually have a defense to be proud of.

w/o trades, here would be my "fix the Browns by need in 1 draft" list:

RT - 1B - Cordy Glenn
RB - 2 - David Wilson
1WR - 1A - Blackmon
3WR - 4B - Ryan Broyles (likely PUP to start year though)
RG or LG - 5A - Senio Kelemete
LB - 3 - R.Lewis
CB - 4A - Ron Brooks
FS - 5B - Eddie Whitley

then, we can use the last 5 picks on BPA fliers.




obviously, we might still have 1 huge gaping hole. so, we either have Colt make a huge leap with this group or we go searching for QB in the next draft.

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obviously, we might still have 1 huge gaping hole. so, we either have Colt make a huge leap with this group or we go searching for QB in the next draft.

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Obviously Colt is the big ?????? in all of this... but if we do this right and we do still need to go get a QB next year... 1. I won't be upset giving up a fair number of picks because we should have filled at least 3 or 4 current holes and 2. the new QB should be walking into a decent situation...

Sounds good in theory.

I'd be happy with that outcome. Wilson isn't the RB that I'd pick but I think we'd be a much improved team with those players.

I prefer Miller, but also think he will be gone by #37. I'm about equal between Wilson and Martin and have both above Polk.

Title of this thread should be "How to build Rome in a day".

DC is more qualified to build a city than me... so I'll defer to him on that one.

Biggest thing I've ever built is a chicken coop.

Most of these picks are more for position than actual player. I admit to not knowing alot about some of these guys and just go from where they are ranked and the buzz I read on this board.

1A-Morris Claiborne, CB -Rock solid pair of CB's for a long time.
1B- Stephen Hill,WR - Admittedly, combine numbers skew this pick for me.
2- Mike Adams,OT - rounds out the Oline as I think the other spots are O.K.
3-Vinny Curry,DE- Don't know much about him, best available DE.
4A- Bruce Irvin,OLB- Great numbers but don't know about him as a 4-3 OLB.
4B-Isaiah Pead,RB - Main emphasis is RB at this spot.
5A- Senio Kelemete,OG- Oline depth
5B-Marvin Mcnutt,WR- McNutt can push Massa. or Mitchell out the door.
6A-James Hanna,TE- Based soley on great combine numbers
6B- Akiem Hicks,DE- Why not?
7A- Tysyn Hartman,FS- Why not?
7B-Aaron Corp, QB- Once beat out Barkley so there has to be some talent there.

To fix this thing in one draft. Without trades is hard as I would look to acquire Philly's two 2nd round picks for the 22nd.

1a. Ryan Tannehill. I don't believe in Colt so QB is my top priority. I believe Tannehill will be a franchise QB and it wont take nearly as long as some are predicting.

1b. RT Jonathon Martin or Glenn one should fall

2. WR Hill or Jeffery or Randle

3. RB Miller, Turbin or James, running backs will fall this year

4a. CB Coryell Judie Texas A&M
4b. WR Dwight Jones or Ryan Broyles

5a FS Janzen Jackson McNese St.
5b OLB Danny Trevathon
6a. DE Dante PaigeMoss
6b OT Donald Stephenson

7a LB Vontaze Burfict
7b. DT Nick Jean-Baptiste
7c CB Justin Bethel Presbyterian

I would be ecstatic if the draft turned out this way Steve, although I would change a few players up. It is definitely a way to build a high Caliber team and I don't think there is a better GM out there at working the board up and down than Heckert.

Ok....I'll play, for 5 rounds



1A- Tannehill QB
1B- Cordy Glenn RT
2- Mohamed Sanu WR
3- Lamichael James RB
4A- .Brandon Brooks OG
4B- Josh Kaddu OLB
5A- Trenton Robinson S
5B- Chris Rainey RB/WR/KR/PR

Rainey is the guy that is hard to place in this draft as he could go from the 2nd to the 5th.

Sanu has won me over with his elite level route running.

No doubt he is ranked all over. I see those low rankings as well. I also see him at 8 or so on many, so obviously someone is wrong.

I guess it just boils down to which you believe and which you don't.....shrug

I was just thinking about Weeden now being tabbed by many as a late 1st rounder. A few weeks ago he wasn't even talked about before the third round. It seems the media really needs QB's to go in the first. I guess with Luck and Griffin pretty much locked in there isn't any mustery going on there, so they create some. I have even seen an article alluding to Osweiler being a possible first round pick.

to be fair, it's not just the media

tebow went in the 1st, gabbert, locker, and ponder - though all were thought to be shaky (Ponder was probably the "safest" of the 4)

It makes so much sense when you lay it all out like that.

Just going by what I read The Browns are looking to "Strike it Rich" in the first round. Using the 4th selection and dealing back into the early first round. Also, using 2012 picks and future picks to get back into the early second round. I also heard Heckert's eyes light up when Weeden is brought up and it seems they like him over Tannehill. If I use this scenario I see a few ways to "strike it rich". It is said it will be no surprise if the Browns use the first four selections on the offensive side of the ball.

Some factors that play into this years draft strategy are the result of What we know from this offseason.
-The cost to move up to draft a projected QB in the draft. If the guy I target is at the top I have a steep price to pay to get there even from 4 spots away. I Can stockpile picks now and risk quality, Trade away multiple future first rounders or use future first rounders now to make the whole team better and get day 1 starters.
-The cost of mediocre free agent WR's. 50 million for Garcon.

4.)Trent Richardson-RB
5.)Justin Blackmon WR (Trade 22 and next years 1)Future first worth #16 pick(1000) plus the 22 is worth 780. The #5 pick is worth 1700.
37.)Weeden QB-
67.)Mitchell Schwartz-OT
100.)Minniefield-CB
118.)Michael Brewster=C/G
139)Travis Lewis-OLB
160)Vontaze Burfict-ILB
204.)Posey- WR
205.)Donte-Paige Moss-DE
245.)Derrick Coleman-FB
247.)Quinton Richardson-S

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Just going by what I read The Browns are looking to "Strike it Rich" in the first round.

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Odd, I read they were looking to trade back and take Tannehill, Weeden and Noles with their first 3 picks in hopes that one of them works out.

"How to fix the Browns in one Draft"

Go back in time and lose the Miami (make them play defense) Jacksonville (make them play offense) and Seattle (Make the refs not suck) games and draft Andrew Luck #1 overall.

Downhill from there...