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...And the flight has been booked for Dallas  25K miles and $5. Even better. 
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you sure are optimstic. I see a murders row of RB's and QB's that the Browns have to face.
There isn't one QB on the schedule that McCoy is better than.
The Browns have yet to show they can stop the run.
how can you have the Browns going 2-0 is amazing.
Philly is a juggernaut on offense. Andy Dalton will be that much better with a full off season and the cancers are gone from the Bengals lockeroom.
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Dallas, eh? Sounds expensive...
Been to JerryWorld once, saw Sam Bradford bust his shoulder on the turf. The place feels like the freakin' IX Center. I'd love to see my Brownies there, though.
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25K miles and $5. Even better.
What?? Are you connecting through Istanbul and Tokyo?? 
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1 Sun, Sept. 9 vs. Philadelphia Eagles FOX 1 p.m. Loss
2 Sun, Sept. 16 at Cincinnati Bengals CBS 1 p.m. Win
3 Sun, Sept. 23 vs. Buffalo Bills CBS 1 p.m Win
4 Thu, Sept. 27 at Baltimore Ravens NFLN 8:20 p.m. Loss
5 Sun, Oct. 7 at New York Giants CBS 1 p.m. Loss
6 Sun, Oct. 14 vs. Cincinnati Bengals CBS 1 p.m. Win
7 Sun, Oct. 21 at Indianapolis Colts CBS 1 p.m. Win
8 Sun, Oct. 28 vs. San Diego Chargers CBS 1 p.m. Loss
9 Sun, Nov. 4 vs. Baltimore Ravens CBS 1 p.m. Loss
10 Bye
11 Sun, Nov. 18 at Dallas Cowboys CBS 1 p.m. Loss
12 Sun, Nov. 25 vs. Pittsburgh Steelers CBS 1 p.m. Loss
13 Sun, Dec. 2 at Oakland Raiders CBS 4:15 p.m. Win
14 Sun, Dec. 9 vs. Kansas City Chiefs CBS 1 p.m. Loss
15 Sun, Dec. 16 vs. Washington Redskins FOX 1 p.m. Loss
16 Sun, Dec. 23 at Denver Broncos CBS 4:05 p.m. Loss
17 Sun, Dec. 30 at Pittsburgh Steelers CBS 1 p.m. Loss
5-11...Some may call me a pessimist, I call myself a realist. I guess I was optimistic last year when I said they would win 6 (or did I say 7)?
Couple of games I'm looking forward to:
(1) Home vs RGIII and Skins...by Week 15 we should have a pretty good understanding if the Browns attempt and fail to land RGIII will be a whew or a f!!##^%#$%#
(2) Week 1 - at home vs Philly...tough oppenent....should know right away how good we are
(3) Giants - SB champs...will they overlook us? If they do, will it matter?
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Think I might hit the Broncos game as a gift to myself...
Wonder if I can scrape up enough of it for decent seats.
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Well ... we haven't won an opening game in how many years? It would be nice to finally get one. I'll wait till I see what we do in the draft before I make my season predictions. There was a time when my standard prediction was 16-0 until proved otherwise ...... but the beatdown of the past 2+ decades has beaten that stupidity out of me. 
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2004 Against Baltimore with Jeff Garcia.
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I'm just glad the schedule is out so I can get them on my calendar and make some plans for other things this fall (weddings, vacations, etc.).
I refuse to say how we're going to do since it's pretty pointless. That's why you play the games...
I am unfamiliar with this feeling of optimism
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2 wins maybe if Colt is starting.
How many wins if Tannehill is starting?
20.
(We'd be so awesome we'd play during Wild Card Weekend anyways!)
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This schedule looks brutal. 
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We will find out soon enough lol 
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14 Sun, Dec. 9 vs. Kansas City Chiefs CBS 1 p.m.
Peyton Hillis returns to Cleveland to a mixed reaction, as he sits on the bench on IR.. Matt Cassel is still Matt Cassel...
Browns Win 7-6
I wouldn't mind going to this game so I can finally throw away the stupid Hillis jersey my sister got me for Christmas.
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Man, I honestly don't see a single game on there that I believe we *should* win. I know that we've known the opponents and home/away matchups for a while now, but actually seeing it laid out and being able to take stock of it...man. Rough. Really rough.
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Wow did we get set up to pad some schedules.. .... that is a rough road. I only see 3 games that I "think" the Browns should win. then throw in one or two divisions wins (maybe), and 5-11 is right.
I was hoping for better this year, but it will be hard to see progress against some of those teams. We'll just get blown out.
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I smell 3-13....#1 pick in draft next year.
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Every time it feels positive round these parts, we stink it up worse than expected. This thread is making me feel optimistic . . . I know losses are losses, but I see the words "blown out" a lot. We don't get "blown out" all THAT much. We were in a quite a few games last year. And this draft will help. No way it doesn't. SUN shine, lollipops . . .
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I don't think we'll necessarily be blown out on the scoreboard, but teams will definitely have their way with us more times than not. Think first Ravens meeting last season...they only put up 24 but man it felt like they could've put up 50 if they really wanted to.
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Format stolen from wojo...
1 Sun, Sept. 9 vs. Philadelphia Eagles FOX 1 p.m. Loss
2 Sun, Sept. 16 at Cincinnati Bengals CBS 1 p.m. Loss
3 Sun, Sept. 23 vs. Buffalo Bills CBS 1 p.m Win
4 Thu, Sept. 27 at Baltimore Ravens NFLN 8:20 p.m. Loss
5 Sun, Oct. 7 at New York Giants CBS 1 p.m. Loss
6 Sun, Oct. 14 vs. Cincinnati Bengals CBS 1 p.m. Loss
7 Sun, Oct. 21 at Indianapolis Colts CBS 1 p.m. Loss
8 Sun, Oct. 28 vs. San Diego Chargers CBS 1 p.m. Loss
9 Sun, Nov. 4 vs. Baltimore Ravens CBS 1 p.m. Loss
10 Bye
11 Sun, Nov. 18 at Dallas Cowboys CBS 1 p.m. Loss
12 Sun, Nov. 25 vs. Pittsburgh Steelers CBS 1 p.m. Loss
13 Sun, Dec. 2 at Oakland Raiders CBS 4:15 p.m. Loss
14 Sun, Dec. 9 vs. Kansas City Chiefs CBS 1 p.m. Win
15 Sun, Dec. 16 vs. Washington Redskins FOX 1 p.m. Loss
16 Sun, Dec. 23 at Denver Broncos CBS 4:05 p.m. Loss
17 Sun, Dec. 30 at Pittsburgh Steelers CBS 1 p.m. Loss
2-14. 0-6 again in the Division. Sounds about right to me.
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This schedule is much more favorible than last years. There are no 3 game road trips, the Baltimore and Pittsburgh games are not back to back, This is a really good schedule, this is a really good way to lay out the games, really this isn't as bad as most years, this looks like what I usaually would complain Dallas gets. You finsish up at Denver and at Pittsburgh. Even if you're out of it, if you have a healthy team you have bench marks if you can play well in those games, so something worth watching, maybe. Dallas is the closest game to Memphis? How far is Indy from Memphis? I'd guess about the same. " How many wins if Tannehill starts?" Who is his runningback? If we have Tannehill starting with LaMichael James and Chris Ogbonnaya ... Well, Wherever Lamichael James goes they're winning the superbowl. I said it, LaMichael James, Super Bowl, any team , rookie year...
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Why the hell do we always play Oakland at Oakland?
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It is an outside of the division AFC north, inside of the conference, AFC, game. It probably has to do with how the Browns and Raiders finished in the division. We get Kansas City and San Diego at home, the league probably thought a game AT Oakland would be an easier game for the Browns than a game AT San Diego. They would base that on the division standings of the Browns, ( last place, Oh Lord not again, (( Al bundy impression  )) and wherever the teams finished in the division standings before the playoffs started in the AFC west. The AFC West division was really screwy toward the end last year.
Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
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I think you misunderstood my question.
Why do we almost always play AT OAKLAND
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2 wins maybe if Colt is starting.
That should be good enough to insure the Browns get the top pick in next years draft, then we solve our QB problem...see how it works?
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2 wins maybe if Colt is starting.
That should be good enough to insure the Browns get the top in next years draft, then we solve our QB problem...see how it works?
it looks like it will be best if Colt goes 14-2 or 2-14. Anything in between will not settle the fan base and make a decision for us. The Browns winning 7-9 to 11-5 will gain questionable support while less than 7 games will only keep the fans divided.
Another 5-11 type season will have the mob out for everyone's head
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I'm not going to predict our record, but I do know this,
If we draft Tannihill or even a QB in the 1st or 2nd round this Year, come January 2013 were going to be talking about which QB to take AGAIN with the # 1 pick......
Us fans scream & moan for Offense and than turn around and wanna draft Tannihill.....Tannihill.....We need Richardson and I can live with Blackmon,
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super...Colt McCoy's destiny might be in his own hands.
If he plays well and leads the team to an 8-8 record, that might be good enough to save his own job.
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super...Colt McCoy's destiny might be in his own hands.
If he plays well and leads the team to an 8-8 record, that might be good enough to save his own job.
And at best let us toil in mediocrity for years to come. 
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1 Sun, Sept. 9 vs. Philadelphia Eagles FOX 1 p.m. Loss
2 Sun, Sept. 16 at Cincinnati Bengals CBS 1 p.m. Loss
3 Sun, Sept. 23 vs. Buffalo Bills CBS 1 p.m Win
4 Thu, Sept. 27 at Baltimore Ravens NFLN 8:20 p.m. Loss
5 Sun, Oct. 7 at New York Giants CBS 1 p.m. Loss
6 Sun, Oct. 14 vs. Cincinnati Bengals CBS 1 p.m. Loss
7 Sun, Oct. 21 at Indianapolis Colts CBS 1 p.m. Loss
8 Sun, Oct. 28 vs. San Diego Chargers CBS 1 p.m. Loss
9 Sun, Nov. 4 vs. Baltimore Ravens CBS 1 p.m. Loss
10 Bye
11 Sun, Nov. 18 at Dallas Cowboys CBS 1 p.m. Loss
12 Sun, Nov. 25 vs. Pittsburgh Steelers CBS 1 p.m. Loss
13 Sun, Dec. 2 at Oakland Raiders CBS 4:15 p.m. Loss
14 Sun, Dec. 9 vs. Kansas City Chiefs CBS 1 p.m. Win
15 Sun, Dec. 16 vs. Washington Redskins FOX 1 p.m. Loss
16 Sun, Dec. 23 at Denver Broncos CBS 4:05 p.m. Loss
17 Sun, Dec. 30 at Pittsburgh Steelers CBS 1 p.m. Loss
2-14. 0-6 again in the Division. Sounds about right to me.
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super...Colt McCoy's destiny might be in his own hands.
If he plays well and leads the team to an 8-8 record, that might be good enough to save his own job.
Anyone who would lead us to an 8-8 record this year would end up with a Tebow-like aura.
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If the Browns can manage to go 3-3 in the AFC North - which I think is possible, based on how tight most of the division games were last year - there's no reason they couldn't finish 8-8. Buffalo, Indy, Oakland, KC, and Washington are winnable games, imo. Steal one from Philly or San Diego, and you are in the playoff discussion at 9-7.
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super...Colt McCoy's destiny might be in his own hands.
If he plays well and leads the team to an 8-8 record, that might be good enough to save his own job.
And at best let us toil in mediocrity for years to come.
columbus...Colt may hold the key to his own future as an NFL QB...but he has to prove himself on the field.
IF McCoy gets another opportunity to prove himself and he does it...I have no problem with him as the Browns starting QB.
I believe the odds are against McCoy, but I have been around sports long enough to know athletes "do prove critics wrong" and exceed expectations when they are down to the last chance.
Some athletes thrive on such a challenge and rise to the occasion...many do not.
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I will be ecstatic if he is the solution, I just don't think he is. I hope he proves me wrong.
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If he plays well and leads the team to an 8-8 record, that might be good enough to save his own job.
And at best let us toil in mediocrity for years to come.
columbus...Colt may hold the key to his own future as an NFL QB...but he has to prove himself on the field.
IF McCoy gets another opportunity to prove himself and he does it...I have no problem with him as the Browns starting QB.
I believe the odds are against McCoy, but I have been around sports long enough to know athletes "do prove critics wrong" and exceed expectations when they are down to the last chance.
Some athletes thrive on such a challenge and rise to the occasion...many do not.
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I think the NFC East is terribly over-rated. The Giants won the division with a 9-7 record. If they hadn't won toward the end of the season, they would have missed the playoffs altogether. I'm not saying we're going to beat every NFL East team, but every one of those teams IS beatable. I think we'll win a couple of them.
Overall, I'm guessing we're looking at 7-9.
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I'm contemplating going to the Dallas game.. Its gonna be the closest one from Memphis. hmmmm...
I didn't even see that game was in Dallas. That's only 3 1/2 hours away. hmm...
11 Sun, Nov. 18 at Dallas Cowboys CBS 1 p.m.
a 1pm game in Dallas? Dallas doesn't do 1pm games at home. also, this falls the week after my boys flag football season ends. i'm looking good for it so far.
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My methodology for predictions:
1. If a team has a better QB than you, mark it as a loss.
2. If your QBs are equal in skill, all rookies are in this category, you have a 50% chance of winning.
3. Add one victory you should not get.
This will get you to a prediction within 1-3 games either direction.
2012 prediction:
1. Philadelphia Eagles FOX 1 p.m. Loss Vick > McCoy
2at Cincinnati Bengals CBS 1 p.m. Win 50% chance
3 . Buffalo Bills CBS 1 p.m Loss Fitzpatrick > McCoy
4 Baltimore Ravens NFLN 8:20 p.m. Loss Flacco > McCoy
5 New York Giants CBS 1 p.m. Win Random victory, SB rule
6 Cincinnati Bengals CBS 1 p.m. Loss 50% chance
7 at Indianapolis Colts CBS 1 p.m. Win 50% chance
8 San Diego Chargers CBS 1 p.m. Loss Rivers > McCoy
9 Baltimore Ravens CBS 1 p.m. Loss Flacco > McCoy
10 Bye
11 Dallas Cowboys CBS 1 p.m. Loss Romo > McCoy
12 . Pittsburgh Steelers CBS 1 p.m. Loss Roethlisberger > McCoy
13at Oakland Raiders CBS 4:15 p.m. Win 50% chance
14 Kansas City Chiefs CBS 1 p.m. Loss 50% chance
15 Washington Redskins FOX 1 p.m. Loss 50% chance
16 at Denver Broncos CBS 4:05 p.m. Loss Manning > McCoy
17 at Pittsburgh Steelers CBS 1 p.m. Loss Roethlisberger > McCoy
Palmer, Cassel, Dalton x2, Luck, RG3, are the wild-cards.
Giants are the superbowl winner upset.
Browns 2012 record will be 4-12 or 5-11.
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we're screwed.
Do we get to play Seattle without their starting QB again this year?
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super...Colt McCoy's destiny might be in his own hands.
If he plays well and leads the team to an 8-8 record, that might be good enough to save his own job.
Anyone who would lead us to an 8-8 record this year would end up with a Tebow-like aura.
It seems like McCoy already has a Tebow-like aura to some people. (and posters)
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