Quote: Chris Owusu (has all the big play potential we want in WRs)
Said this guy had concussion problems.
I dunno if I want that over our heads. I hate having guys who get all these concussions, just makes me feel awful. Kinda why I was happy we let Brodney Pool go. Liked him a lot as a player, but I just wanted him to retire
I'm as big of a homer as any Toledo fan, but epic fail on his part coming out early.
When you're short and slow by NFL standards the odds are against you to start with, then when you come out early from a MAC school... man, you've got to blow people away in workouts and the combine - clearly he didn't do that.
Guess he either really needed the money (that an UDFA contract will bring) or really hated being in school. One more year couldn't have hurt him. Best of luck wherever he lands - it was a pleasure watching him dominate for three years.
"If it weren't for my horse, I wouldn't have spent that year in college" GO ROCKETS
Why? Just like everyone else commenting about the picks, I'll give my views of them and the draft as a whole. It sucked canal water.
There are only two players on the whole draft which the Browns selected that I would have taken. Trent Richardson and Billy Winn. Not a single other selection would I have taken. Not one. Most of them were reaches that weren't drafted just a round early, but two (or more) rounds earlier than they should have been.
Quote: Why? Just like everyone else commenting about the picks, I'll give my views of them and the draft as a whole. It sucked canal water.
But will you get over your misery?
At some point you will embrace these guys, right? At least give them a chance before writing them all off as garbage
These are the new players on our favorite football team, and at least MY favorite sports team, period. Open your heart, cheer for them, and hope for the best.
If Weeden falls on his face, Schwartz looks worse than Glenn and Martin, Hughes gets cut in training camp, and the rest of our draft picks look like garbage, then start getting really upset.
This misery of yours will end eventually? Please say it's so
If they contribute significantly to winning? Or contribute to losing?
Trent Richardson and Billy Winn won't translate into a better team when our divisional opponents upgraded at more positions with better players.
In my opinion, we've made steps backwards with this draft.
Let's take a look at players on the roster that have been here as long as or longer than McCoy which regressed last season and whom few (if any) people have suggested we replace.
1. Joe Haden. He was drafted the same year as Colt McCoy. He regressed last year from his rookie season. Anyone calling for his head?
2. TJ Ward. He was also drafted the same year as McCoy. He regressed and was injured for more games than McCoy. Weren't there injury concerns about him when he was drafted?
3. Mohamed Massaquoi. He was drafted the year prior to McCoy. He's regressed and was injured. Few (of which I'm one) have called for us to get rid of him. Some (including this front office) think that he's a perfectly good receiver.
4. Montario Hardesty. More fragile than fine crystal. The fat lady sang and his bones shattered before the crystal did. Few are echoing that he should be jettisoned.
5. Kaluka Maiava. Hasn't contributed much at all and his greatest talent is keeping the bench warm on winter games in Cleveland.
That was a really good reply,then you had to ruin the moment with your next whinney-boy post. Try to stick with the one liners,unlike your talent evaluations,they're not bad.
He does have some valid concerns though .... much as I hate to say so given some of the "reasons" he's come up with for some of his arguments ......
However:
Ward has been injury prone. Nothing major .... but he missed 8 games last year with a sprained ankle, and was an injury concern coming into the draft. He's definitely a high end player when he's on the field, but he's got to be there consistently.
Hardesty has been a major, big league, unadulterated bust. We have got nothing out of him in 2 years because of this injury or that injury. He had the worst yards per carry of any of our RB last year. This is a make or break year for Hardesty. He needs to show something against real competition. The shame is that he looked so good, with so much incredible burst before he got hurt as a rookie.
Haden is fine. Today's pass rules make it hard for any CB to be a true "shutdown" guy, and every corner is going to give up a play here or there. Haden is a pretty solid cover guy, capable of playing one on one. He can really flip his hips around in pass cover, and tackles well in addition to covering well. That's a nice piece to have in today's NFL. I disagree that he regressed. I just think that teams tried going against him more because he covered the #1 receiver more last year.
Massaquoi was drafted by Mangini. I still think that he can be a solid receiver with a real NFL QB throwing him the ball.
Maiava is a backup LB taken in the 4th round of the 2009i draft by ....... Mangini. He's a valuable special teams guy, and a decent, if not overwhelming backup. He could be replaced this year, or he might squeak by onto the final roster.
In the end, year, there are major concerns about Hardesty, and some concerns about Ward. (though Ward's play is getting better and better, and he is probably a top 5 - 7 SS in the NFL right now)
The rest is just complaining.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
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Quote: Let's take a look at players on the roster that have been here as long as or longer than McCoy which regressed last season and whom few (if any) people have suggested we replace.
Quote: 4. Montario Hardesty. More fragile than fine crystal. The fat lady sang and his bones shattered before the crystal did. Few are echoing that he should be jettisoned.
Huh? What have you been reading? I think most people would want Hardesty gone.
Jermaine Saffold, Cleveland UDFA signing. 1:55 does a good job of getting the inside-leverage off-coverage DB to turn his hips outside before cutting in.
That QB they've got is not afraid to sling it! After years of watching the Browns and Buckeyes I'm not used to that.
Quote: Well then thank god u arent in the war room calling the shots!
He should be though, he already said in another thread that we, as Browns fans are all stupid and we are an embarassment to him, and he has made it quite clear our FO is a bunch of idiots. So really I dont see how someone as brilliant as him isnt a GM already.
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Unofficial list of Browns undrafted free agent signings Published: Sunday, April 29, 2012, 2:24 AM Updated: Sunday, April 29, 2012, 2:30 AM By Mary Kay Cabot, The Plain Dealer
Here's an unofficial list of Browns undrafted free agent signings, according to nepatriotsdraft.com Josh Cooper, WR, Oklahoma State Jermaine Saffold, WR, Missouri St Andrew Sweat, LB, Ohio State Matt Cleveland, OT, Idaho Antwuan Reed, CB, Pitt J.B. Shugarts, OT, Ohio State Jake Anderson, OT, Akron Johnson Bademosi, SAF, Stanford William Green, DE, Florida Tashaun Gipson, S, Wyoming Also on the list, according to Aaron Wilson of scout.com, is OL Garth Gerhart of Arizona State.
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