DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Tailgate Forum Jim Brown, estranged from the Browns, and unimpressed with Trent Richardson

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When I read this article, I thought,, I wonder how much he skewed Lerners thinking while in the Employ of the Browns as a consultant?

I wonder if his thinking is what caused Randy to make some of the decisions he made. and maybe, just maybe, when randy realized it, took on Holmgren and Holmgren knew it also and dumped Brown..

Just a little outside the box thinking..

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Jim Brown was born in 1936.

He has lived a complex life and he is a complicated man. Anyone can have an opinion about Jim Brown but remember that opinion has been formed by what you have read about him. You have not walked in his shoes.

Over the years he has been quoted and again you can form an opinion from those quotes. However, that does not mean you know Jim Brown.

There have been a number of instances where Jim Brown was involved in publicized charges or situations that have led to more reports about his personal life. Again the information we as the public get is second hand and we often do not get both sides of the story.

I am not defending Jim Brown or condoning some of his behavior. At the same time I recognize that a public life does not always provide a clear picture into the true life of the person.

As a player:

Jim Brown averaged 104.3 yards a game and 5.2 yards per carry average over a nine year period.

Barry Sanders is second with 99.8 yards a game average and 5.0 yards per carry average.

Jim Brown is entitled to his opinion.

I do not agree with him in regards to Trent Richardson.

Trent Richardson will forge his own career. He does not need the validation of Jim Brown or anyone else.

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Jim Brown criticizes Randy Lerner, Cleveland franchise
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By Gregg Rosenthal
Around The League editor
Published: June 1, 2012 at 04:53 p.m.
Updated: June 1, 2012 at 08:07 p.m.

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Jim Brown has not been shy of late when it comes to criticizing members of the organization he helped define.

He has taken on Cleveland Browns President Mike Holmgren. He was not impressed with the Browns' selection of Trent Richardson. In an interview with NFL Network's "NFL Total Access" on Friday, Brown criticized owner Randy Lerner's management style.

"I think that the owner, and I have to be very candid with you, is trying to turn all the power over to someone else. I don't think that's possible," Brown said. "I think that the owner is ultimately going to be the leader and I think until Randy takes that position, it's going to be difficult.

"Holmgren is a fine executive, but he is not the owner, and I think the players know that. So I think the players feel that they don't have that top dog sitting there in that office so they can feel that they have great leadership from the top. There's always a question mark when your owner is in England."

Holmgren does take on responsibilities that are unique for a man in his position. He often represents the Browns at the league's owners' meetings instead of Lerner.

Right or wrong, Holmgren truly is the one under the most pressure to turn around the organization. That's not necessarily a bad thing, and the team has drafted very well the past two years despite its poor win-loss record.

We reached out to the Browns for comment, but they declined. They are surely tired of hearing Brown take on the organization. (The team and Brown had a falling out after perceived slights in 2010.)

Browns fans also have likely grown tired of Brown's attacks on his longtime employer.

Then again, speaking his mind always defined Brown. That attitude made him alternately beloved, feared, and respected during his playing days. Not much has changed.

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"I think that the owner, and I have to be very candid with you, is trying to turn all the power over to someone else. I don't think that's possible," Brown said. "I think that the owner is ultimately going to be the leader and I think until Randy takes that position, it's going to be difficult.

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So the bitter geriatric with 10 arrests and a failed resume as it pertains to EVERYTHING involving the football world beyond his playing of the game 5 decades ago is now the authority on how to run an entire organization.

Got it.

Will someone check Jim Brown for Dementia...

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Since right now he is only a fan, he has the right to agree or disagree with Lerner or anybody else in the front office just like we do. It doesn't make him right or wrong, just like none of us here is always right or wrong. The media just hypes up everything he says in hopes of getting attention and way to many of us give them the attention they desire

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Listen to what he said, really.

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Of course he has a right to his opinions. I have a right to my opinions on popped shirt collars, but that doesn't mean I should droll on to the media about it or that the media should publish what I say.

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