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http://broncotalk.net/2012/03/30887/denver-broncos/nfl-draft-broncos-currently-own-six-picks/NFL Draft: Broncos Currently Own Six Picks Posted Fri Mar 2nd by Jon Heath The 2012 NFL Draft is quickly approaching and the Denver Broncos currently have picks in six of the seven rounds. Per the Denver Post’s Jeff Legwold, the team’s selections are as follows: Current draft selections: 1st round (25th overall) — own selection. 2nd round (TBA overall) — own selection. 3rd round (TBA overall) — own selection. 4th round (TBA overall) — own selection. 5th round (TBA overall) — acquired in Brandon Lloyd trade from the St. Louis Rams. 7th round (TBA overall) — own selection. A few notes: The Broncos’ may add to their six draft picks through trades before or during the draft and the team may be awarded at least one compensatory selection in the coming weeks. The team’s fifth round selection from the Rams was originally a conditional sixth rounder which turned into a fifth when Lloyd caught more than thirty passes in St. Louis last season. The Broncos’ own fifth round pick is in Cleveland, as the team is still giving the Browns compensation for quarterback Brady Quinn. Denver’s sixth round pick went to Philadelphia as part of a trade with the Eagles which sent linebacker Joe Mays to the Broncos.
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My Bad, but still I think a 5th is more then people think we will get for trading McCoy.
so in ascents they are saying that he isn't worth as much as BQ.
and I like(ed) the Miller pick too.
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i was shocked we were able to get as much as we could for Quinn. I thought maybe a 6th for him, but two 6ths (turned into a 6th and a 5th) plus peyton hillis? I thought that was easily the best trade for the browns since the return. If we could pull off another swindling like that, I'd be quite happy. 
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i was shocked we were able to get as much as we could for Quinn. I thought maybe a 6th for him, but two 6ths (turned into a 6th and a 5th) plus peyton hillis? I thought that was easily the best trade for the browns since the return. If we could pull off another swindling like that, I'd be quite happy.
I've been pretty happy with the past few Drafts and man has it been a long time since I could claim that.
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I agree.. Heckert ALWAYS throws in a few curveballs, but overall I'm pretty happy with the direction our team is headed talent wise.
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i was shocked we were able to get as much as we could for Quinn. I thought maybe a 6th for him, but two 6ths (turned into a 6th and a 5th) plus peyton hillis? I thought that was easily the best trade for the browns since the return. If we could pull off another swindling like that, I'd be quite happy.
I've been pretty happy with the past few Drafts and man has it been a long time since I could claim that.
You are not alone.. now, they just have to put it all in a blender and pour themselves (and us) a winner
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i was shocked we were able to get as much as we could for Quinn. I thought maybe a 6th for him, but two 6ths (turned into a 6th and a 5th) plus peyton hillis? I thought that was easily the best trade for the browns since the return. If we could pull off another swindling like that, I'd be quite happy.
I've been pretty happy with the past few Drafts and man has it been a long time since I could claim that.
You are not alone.. now, they just have to put it all in a blender and pour themselves (and us) a winner
Charlie Casserly said on TV last night that he thinks what would be best for the Browns this year is to draft in the top 5 again. He said some very nice things about the pieces the Browns have acquired but said they are probably still a couple pieces away from being legit and that we would benefit more from drafting top 5 next year than we would from going 8-8....
and while I agree with him, damn it I don't want to sit through another 4 win season. 
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i would prefer to have that 8-8 season and figure out which guys that are still available in the late teens are actually top5 talent (that happens most drafts)
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i was shocked we were able to get as much as we could for Quinn. I thought maybe a 6th for him, but two 6ths (turned into a 6th and a 5th) plus peyton hillis? I thought that was easily the best trade for the browns since the return. If we could pull off another swindling like that, I'd be quite happy.
I've been pretty happy with the past few Drafts and man has it been a long time since I could claim that.
You are not alone.. now, they just have to put it all in a blender and pour themselves (and us) a winner
Charlie Casserly said on TV last night that he thinks what would be best for the Browns this year is to draft in the top 5 again. He said some very nice things about the pieces the Browns have acquired but said they are probably still a couple pieces away from being legit and that we would benefit more from drafting top 5 next year than we would from going 8-8....
and while I agree with him, damn it I don't want to sit through another 4 win season.
Why should anyone even want to start justifying why another stinker of a season is a good thing already? No way. No how. That is just plain old loser speak right there.
I apologize if it sounds like I'm jumping on you but that really gets my goat. I'm sick and tired of losing teams. Forget the draft, lets see some football played the way Paul Brown intended. For wins.
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Why should anyone even want to start justifying why another stinker of a season is a good thing already? No way. No how.
Because he's not emotionally invested and hasn't endured the losing the way we fans have... he's objective and he sees that we aren't good enough to make the playoffs so we would be better off with a top 5 talent than a top 20 talent.
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I'm sick and tired of losing teams too... and we have been playing for wins, we just haven't been good enough to get very many....
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Your Point brings up a few questions in my mind: (it might have been asked somewhere already on Dawgtalkers) What is the current ranking of backup QB's in the NFL? how many, if any, are better than McCoy? And if he is a top ranked Backup, isn't that the best reason to keep him? (more of a rhetorical question)
but really who is the top 5 backup QB's?
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Here's an interesting take from the Bleacherreport. Has Colt at #3. I certainly wouldn't put him ahead of Jason Campbell, Kyle Orton or Matt Moore...but maybe since it's a fantasy site they're considering his potential for playing time leading to scoring potential.
Top 20 Fantasy Backups
1. Jake Locker, Titans: It's entirely possible Locker notches five to seven starts (and 12-13 TDs) in his second and final season as Tennessee's savior-in-waiting at quarterback.
2. Chad Henne, Jaguars: Henne provides excellent peace of mind for Jacksonville's coaches...even though Blaine Gabbert should be given every chance to succeed.
3. Colt McCoy, Browns: I don't understand the rationale in trading McCoy just because Brandon Weeden is likely the new starter. You know, a bird in the hand...
4. Jason Campbell, Bears: Oakland's trash is Chicago's treasure. The Bears would remain playoff contenders this time around, if Jay Cutler goes down.
5. Rex Grossman, Redskins: You could do a lot worse than Grossman as a backup. A lot worse. From a fantasy angle, Grossman's a steady lock for 245 yards, 1.5 TDs per game.
6. Matt Moore, Dolphins: Assuming the Dolphins finish fourth in the AFC East (a reasonable conclusion), Miami should invoke the baptism-by-fire approach for Tannehill. Of course, Moore certainly has the goods to lead the 'Fins through September/October.
7. Tarvaris Jackson, Seahawks: T-Jax threw the ball 30 or more times in nine Seahawks games last year—an impressive total considering Marshawn Lynch scored at least one touchdown in 11 straight active games (Weeks 4-15).
8. Ryan Mallett, Patriots: Yes, he's New England's third-stringer and destined for another season of clipboards and baseball caps, but Mallett is also this countdown's only lock for 3,800-yard, 26-TD seasons. Someday.
9. John Skelton, Cardinals: Skelton was 5-2 as a starter last year and accounted for 290-plus yards in his final four games. Unfortunately, America doesn't really celebrate accomplishments of backup quarterbacks. Unless...
10. Tim Tebow, Jets: With this respectable ranking, you now have certifiable proof I don't think Tebow is the worst QB in NFL history.
11. Kyle Orton, Cowboys: It's a simple arrangement. Orton's a reasonable play for 250 yards, two TDs whenever granted injury-replacement starts for Tony Romo.
12. Brian Hoyer, Patriots: With Mallett already in the Patriots' stable, I'm surprised Hoyer wasn't dangled in offseason trade discussions. His (brief) track record of success and physical skills compare favorably to Matt Flynn.
13. Dan Orlovsky, Buccaneers: If Orlovsky (1,079 yards passing, six TDs in his last five starts) had been named Indy's Week 1 starter last year, the Colts would have won too many games to qualify for the No. 1 or 2 picks in the 2012 NFL draft. And, of course, Peyton Manning would still be there. Orlovsky is a solid backup for Josh Freeman.
14. T.J. Yates, Texans: Talk about a thankless ranking here. All Yates did was help lead the Texans to a postseason berth and the club's first playoff victory—and all he can muster is 14th? From a fantasy angle, though, Yates struggled in his final five games as Houston's starter (one TD, five INTs).
15. Brady Quinn, Chiefs: Quinn remains a physically gifted athlete with good touch on deep balls; and if pressed into duty, he'd find a way to hit Jamaal Charles, Dwayne Bowe, Tony Moeaki, Peyton Hillis, Dexter McCluster and Jon Baldwin roughly 57 percent of the time.
16. Shaun Hill, Lions: I like Hill's capacity for 275 yards and two touchdowns on any given Sunday with Detroit's offense, but I don't care to see him in any non-garbage-time scenario all season.
17. Drew Stanton, Colts: One could make a plausible argument that Stanton would have been a more proficient backup than Tebow with the Jets, if New York hadn't traded him to Indy. Stanton is an underrated passer and gifted scrambler.
18. Joe Webb, Vikings: Think of Webb as the Tebow of the Midwest: He would get his 220 total yards and 1.5 touchdowns through a combination of sterling runs and quirky passes every Sunday.
19. Russell Wilson, Seahawks: I've never been one to dismiss a quarterback on size alone. Joe Theismann and Drew Brees managed to win Super Bowls despite their own pre-draft, uh, shortcomings. Bottom line: Wilson has impressive tools.
20. Charlie Whitehurst, Chargers: This ranking is more a reflection of Norv Turner's QB tutorial skills than of anything Whitehurst has accomplished in recent seasons. Still, he'd probably average 225 yards passing in full-time relief of Philip Rivers.
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I would put McCoy just below Shaun Hill ...... but I would also move Brady Quinn down as well.
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Yeah .... I didn;t really even bother reading the comments. Obviously I missed a fair amoung of humor. 
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You have to at least keep the ball in bounds... I mean, at least give your guy a shot.
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Guess they are still referring to that Detroit game..
remember KC fans booing Matt Cassel throwing the first pitch at the allstar game? do you think they'll start chanting for Brady if he struggles early?
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I would have all those guys ranked ahead of mcCoy except:
Quinn, Hoyer and Whitehurst
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YEP, he lost ALL credibility with this statement! I've never seen so many deep balls go out of bounce before BQ and that was his problem, he couldn't make a long throw to his own teammate (and not a sideline or opponent) to save his live.
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QB's who I would take over BQ that where rated lower. Quote:
16. Shaun Hill, Lions: I like Hill's capacity for 275 yards and two touchdowns on any given Sunday with Detroit's offense, but I don't care to see him in any non-garbage-time scenario all season.
17. Drew Stanton, Colts: One could make a plausible argument that Stanton would have been a more proficient backup than Tebow with the Jets, if New York hadn't traded him to Indy. Stanton is an underrated passer and gifted scrambler.
18. Joe Webb, Vikings: Think of Webb as the Tebow of the Midwest: He would get his 220 total yards and 1.5 touchdowns through a combination of sterling runs and quirky passes every Sunday.
19. Russell Wilson, Seahawks: I've never been one to dismiss a quarterback on size alone. Joe Theismann and Drew Brees managed to win Super Bowls despite their own pre-draft, uh, shortcomings. Bottom line: Wilson has impressive tools.
20. Charlie Whitehurst, Chargers: This ranking is more a reflection of Norv Turner's QB tutorial skills than of anything Whitehurst has accomplished in recent seasons. Still, he'd probably average 225 yards passing in full-time relief of Philip Rivers.
I think that Joe Webb could put up some decent numbers if he had to take over the starting QB position for the Vikings.
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yeah, how is Webb not in the top10 at least (if not top5)
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yeah, how is Webb not in the top10 at least (if not top5)
Well to be fair to the guys who make these fantasy list, they also take into account who is ahead of them, but if Joe Webb gets an opportunity to start a full season ... I think that he has the talent to be worthy of a higher Fantasy Draft selection.
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I would put McCoy just below Shaun Hill ...... but I would also move Brady Quinn down as well.
Where is Wallace on your list?
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And why this guy is a nimrod. The guy will be the starter in NY sooner rather than later. Face it. The only way Denver could get rid of Tim was to bring in Peyton.
Think about that for a moment.
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I would put McCoy just below Shaun Hill ...... but I would also move Brady Quinn down as well.
Where is Wallace on your list?
Probably right around McCoy.
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I heard an interesting take on the backup QB spot the other day ...... and maybe it makes some sense in a way .... even though I don't really 100% buy it .....
Anyway ...... there was one of the training camp videos that opined that McCoy might be the perfect backup because he is cautious, and doesn't take a lot of chances. I don't know if I necessarily buy that ...... but maybe they had a point.
I do find it rather amazing that a team still fostering some illusion that there is a QB competition has given Weeds almost all of the starter reps with the 1st team, and also almost all of the interview opportunities .... not to mention the positive comments from the head coach ...... while McCoy has been almost forgotten.
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I think McCoy can be the perfect backup because he is a decent QB with great history of playing in college (a lot and with a good program) and with experience in the NFL (overcoming ridiculous circumstances).
He could easily be our Charlie Batch.
He could be a decent backup on this team for a very long time...maybe even to the guy who replaces Weeden down the road.
I think it would be bad to kick him out...unless HE does something to create an unending distraction.
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McCoy is never going to be an effective, top end starter in this league. I know that a lot of people disagree with me (although that number seems to be dwindling) but I just do not see any top tier talent with McCoy.
I am so glad that he has been replaced, and I think that we'll be a better team because of it.
I also have maintained all along that successful QBs enter the league overly aggressive, and have to be toned down when they learn what they can, and cannot, get away with. QBs who start out timid rarely succeed long term. Frye, Quinn, and McCoy all took the cautious, timid approach. None of them have worked out as the starter.
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I only talked about McCoy as a backup. Maybe you were j/c?
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Yeah. Sorry. Exceptional pain today. 
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Lol. And the tremendous compensation they got was a late round draft pick.
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I will also say that it looked (on video) like McCoy had a couple of nice throws today ... one to Cameron and one to Benjamin.
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You're only saying that because of your deep seeded hate for Colt...
Am I the only one that pronounces hyperbole "Hyper-bowl" instead of "hy-per-bo-le"?
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Yep ..... couldn't you feel the venom in that statement?
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No, it's a political calculation.. now that he knows Weeden has won the job, he will say some nice things about Colt so he has some evidence to pull out in the future. 
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And why this guy is a nimrod. The guy will be the starter in NY sooner rather than later. Face it. The only way Denver could get rid of Tim was to bring in Peyton.
Think about that for a moment.
I genuinely agree with you. I honestly feel it is the lock of all locks Tebow will start over Sanchez at some point. Mark is in a lose lose situation and all Tebow has to do is show up.
Getting Peyton Manning was more about getting the type of QB John Elway likes, you know, a guy that can throw the football.
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I can't wait until Sanchez throws his first pick and they are screaming for Tebow, and then soon after they'll be screaming for Sanchez again, I love that Jets fans are going to have to go through this.
The old saying is that if you have two QB's you don't have one. Well if you have two crappy QB's you most definitely don't have one.
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"Kind of" feel bad for the kid.
All he did was come in, take his team to two AFC title games, and then he has to deal with NYJ trying to bring in Manning, oh wait heres a 3 year contract extension, oh by the way we're trading for another QB to split time with you...
Watching him laugh and joke during Interviews when you have to know that inside he KNOWS what's really going on...
He's not great, sure. But he could be a solid QB on a good team.
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