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Same feelings here. Is there an argument for keeping Colt other than he costs less? The controversy surrounding him just isn't worth it....and before anyone says that there is no controversy, just look in these forums. If it's happening here to this extent, it's happening elsewhere. If Colt were gone, we'd have Weeden-1, Wallace-2, Lewis-3 and none of the BS....or people at each other's throats.
Before the labels start flying, I'm no Colt hater. He's a good kid that always gives 100%. I agree he was dealt a crappy hand. But it's time to move on.
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 find me one poster that wants Colt to start over Weeden. i don't want to cut him, so that makes me in the "pro-Colt" camp I suppose, and I call his play last year terrible. Seneca just happened to be putrid (that's worse than terrible).
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As I said before Colt is younger with more upside, and takes up less cap room. Wallace Is older, is not going to get any better, and takes up more cap room. Media and fans be damned it's time for the front office to worry about putting the best team on the field, not worry about what a few idiots think.
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Again, like I said, I would hate to have to rely upon either McCoy or Wallace to win games for us.
Given that choice, I'll take McCoy... every day.
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This is actually pretty comical. 6 pages of rationalizations and justifications.
The only question that has to be asked is, "If Weeden wasn't on the team, who would be the starter?"
Thats your backup. McCoy will be the backup barring some team offering us something worthwhile.
Keep your best players period.
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The only question that has to be asked is, "If Weeden wasn't on the team, who would be the starter?"
Someone not currently on the roster.
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I just don't understand.
Oh, you understand you just refuse to address it. Let's try again shall we?

Your starter works with your first string WR's all through the pre-season and every day in practice. Their timing should be wonderful with that many reps.
Your back-up works mainly with the second string and has very little experience with the first string WR's and therefore the timing and rythym has not been established to nearly the degree it has been with the starter.
That's a rather basic concept isn't it?

Therefore, it should be that your starter looks MUCH better with the first string than your back-up. Not everyone has the ability to jump off the bench and produce with people that they are not used to practicing with. Some need a lot of time with WR's in order to get any rythym down while some seem to have the ability to do it coming off the bench.
Some pitchers are starters and some relievers. Not all good starters turn into great relievers. The exact same principal applies.
Now wheather Colt has that ability I can't say. But to dismiss this as if it doesn't exist seems rather naive to me.
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Some pitchers are starters and some relievers. Not all good starters turn into great relievers. The exact same principal applies.
Your over thinking this.
A backup QB is not the same as a reliever in baseball. There are other reasons why said pitcher is not a starting pitcher, whereas with a backup QB he is one play away from being the starting QB.
Thinking in terms of who comes off a cold bench better is short sighted at best if your starting QB is out for an extended time frame.
Bottom line is who gives your team the best chance to win. If that's a toss up then I would look to see who gives the better value, age, ceiling, ect.....
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Only in Cleveland can we have 200+ posts debating who should be the backup QB.
We seriously need to start winning some games so we have something else to talk about.
No winning team could muster 50 posts about a backup.
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No winning team could muster 50 posts about a backup.
Except for Green Bay 
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Only in Cleveland can we have 200+ posts debating who should be the backup QB.
If they came out tomorrow and announced that McCoy would be the backup we could get another 200+ debating Wallace or Lewis as the #3... we just have to have a QB controversy, it's in our DNA. 
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I doubt it DC. Many I've talked to believe there are many differences in a starter and I back=up as I've outlined prior. But most I have talked to also agree if they feel McCoy can come off the bench and play back-up, rather than feel he has the need for most all of the reps to be effective, they're fine with that. I am too. But I'm tellin' ya, a guy who gets all the reps week in and week out verses someone who doesn't. coming in cold off the bench, is apple to oranges. But if the FO feels McCoy is the best QB remaining on the roster to fill that role, that would be great! I like him a lot more than I do Wallace! He's a good kid. 
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but, the stories about Colt's rookie year were that he not only didn't get any rep's with the offense, but that he basically had no QB-mentoring and was left to run the scout team and little else.
despite that, he was able to come in cold and have a decent showing against Pitt, lead the team to wins vs. NO, NE, and the heartbreaking loss against the Jets (among others).
So, I think Colt has shown he has the capability of coming off the bench. His numbers were better than Seneca's in every way, shape, and form from last season. He's younger. He's cheaper.
Unless he's throwing a hissy fit behind the scenes about not being the starter, then I think he's the guy.
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If the FO comes to the same conclusion I think that would be the best case scenario for everyone involved actually.
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