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candyman92 #709124 07/27/12 03:06 PM
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I think that it would be really funny if people decided to boycott Chicago




How is that funny? Tourism is a huge source of their money. It's a beautiful city and I would hate to see anything bad happen to it

Off topic: Chick-fil-a has garbage food anyways




Well, if the Mayor of Chicago is going to call for a boycott ..... then turnabout is fair play.

Besides, it would be more than fair, because the people of Chicago (maybe) elected this Bozo. I say "Maybe" because it is, after all, Chicago. Never know how many dead people turned up voting in the last election.


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All it is, is low sugar lemonade.



It's a sugar substitute... but if you go there and don't get the sweet tea, you are missing the point.


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Sweet Tea. BLEH.


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Sweet Tea. BLEH.




QFT!

If I'm having tea, I'm have TEA, not sugar with a touch of tea added for color.


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I have a great and profound admiration for Chick-fil-a for putting their beliefs, whatever those beliefs may be, ahead of the desire for profitability. That's something not very often seen in today's society...


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The only reason I like Chick-Fil-A, is because it's one of the few fast food places that you can have healthy options.

I try to eat as good as I can, but sometimes I just don't have the time to go home and cook dinner.

Grilled chicken sandwich on a wheat bun and a cup of fruit at 310 calories and 4 grams of fat sure beats the hell out of 780 calories and 40 grams of fat for a Big Mac and fries.




You could also say that a grilled chicken salad at McD's beats the hell out of a fried chicken sandwich, fries and a shake at Chick Fil-A. You don't have to eat the pink stuff at any fast food joint.


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I don't equate what he said with bigotry, at least not in the traditional sense anyway. I don't have to agree with how one leads their life nor support it. And those that disagree with Cathy are free to demonstrate their disapproval as well as they see fit. As long as it is within the confines of the law.

You get the sense anymore that those that preach tolerance need a dose of it themselves.

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You get the sense anymore that those that preach tolerance need a dose of it themselves.





Some of the most intolerant people I've ever come across regularly cry about the need for others to be more tolerant.


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the best diet lemonade




WTF??


Can I sell you a few dozen cases of Diet Water?
I'll even throw in some Diet Lemons at "half" price




Listen hear bub, we can't all be svelte like you. I need to save calories where I can! It is sweetened with Splendia, instead of adding sugar. I do prefer their regular lemonade but the diet helps me keep my sugar down.


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The can believe what he wants....but it's stupid to walk around telling people. You're a fast food chain, not a politician. You're supposed to be concerned with maximizing your potential sales, not angering certain segments of the public.



So a successful business person shouldn't be able to talk about his personal beliefs for fear that he may anger somebody?




A successful business person can say or do whatever they want. I'm not questioning their right to do so. More power to ya if you want to put yourself out there.

However, it does draw a certain amount of positive and negative attention when you make your opinion known on a controversial subject (abortion, gay marriage, gun laws, natural grass versus astroturf versus nexturf, etc.).

Being the leader of a very big national chain of restaurants, he should be careful of what he says because it could hurt his business, and more importantly, the other people that rely on his business (franchises, delivery people, burger flippers, etc.).

It wasn't common knowledge to me that the COO was very Christian.

Look, if this was a comment about guns, abortion or a presidential candidate...there are some people that will hear it and decline to eat at his restaurant because of his stance. People are like that.

A very good friend of mine stopped listening to Peral Jam, his favorite band at the time, just because the lead singer came out in support for abortion. While the singer got his beliefs out, he lost at least one record buying fan (and probably many others).

Just saying, if you're okay with alienating a percentage of customers....then go for it. Last I checked, we're in a tough financial time so losing any percentage of your potential business isn't a good idea.


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I don't understand how this is news. They're closed on Sundays because they're Christian. It wasn't a huge reach to think they'd have conservative views on gay marriage. I am 100% in favor of gay marriage but I personally don't care what their political stance on any issue is, I just care about the service I receive when I go there. Now, if they are actively discriminating against gays by either firing or refusing to serve homosexuals, then that's where I have an issue.

I don't make my local McDonald's fill out a political questionnaire in order to get food. The thing that bothers me about this whole thing is people are complaining about unjust treatment by Chick-Fil-A while still actively buying shoes and electronics made in 3rd world sweatshops and purchasing gasoline from countries where being homosexual is a literal death sentence and yet no one is willing to change those habits.


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The other side of that is they may just gain some customers also. Having belief's and sticking to them is actually a good trait in my opinion. At least he's not like our politicians that will say one thing, then even later that day say something else.

Believe it or not - there is a silent majority in this country............they vote with their beliefs. The vocal minority makes news, the silent majority hasn't been vocal.

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Just like celebrities, I don't know why an owner of a company's opinion makes a difference to anyone. He sells chicken sandwiches and has an opinion. Whoopee!!

I have no interest in his political or religious opinions and as long as he isn't discriminating against anyone couldn't care less about them.

I will say one thing, if I owned a business nobody would have a clue about any of my opinions, except that I'm against murder and hurting puppies.

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I will say one thing, if I owned a business nobody would have a clue about any of my opinions, except that I'm against murder and hurting puppies.




Looks like you won't be selling any widgets to murderers or Philadelphia QBs.



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At least he's not like our politicians that will say one thing, then even later that day say something else.





Oooo, glad you said that because that reminds me, Rahm Emanuel served in both the Clinton and Obama administrations when it was the official administration policy to be in opposition to gay marriage.

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LOL Beat me to it. Blech.






You guys don't know good food then. Chick-fil-a is as good a chicken sandwich as can be had.


They go strong here in the south....no shortage of customers in these parts.


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LOL Beat me to it. Blech.






You guys don't know good food then. Chick-fil-a is as good a chicken sandwich as can be had.


They go strong here in the south....no shortage of customers in these parts.




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I don't equate what he said with bigotry, at least not in the traditional sense anyway. I don't have to agree with how one leads their life nor support it. And those that disagree with Cathy are free to demonstrate their disapproval as well as they see fit. As long as it is within the confines of the law.

You get the sense anymore that those that preach tolerance need a dose of it themselves.




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It's one thing to be against the idea of homosexuality or homosexuals marrying. One has the right to their beliefs.

It becomes bigotry when you want to legislate your opinion, thereby stripping people of rights (especially when it has absolutely no effect on your life)

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It becomes bigotry when you want to legislate your opinion, thereby stripping people of rights (especially when it has absolutely no effect on your life)




Explain to me how the owner of a restaurant chain does that? He simply stated his belief that marriage is for one man and one woman. What is it about the First Amendment people don't get?

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So, if someone is against it - it's fine as long as they don't say it?

What if the majority were against it - should the majority not say anything?

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I like sweet tea. I like Chick-fil-a. I will continue to consume both. Oh...and puppies are okay, too.


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It becomes bigotry when you want to legislate your opinion, thereby stripping people of rights (especially when it has absolutely no effect on your life)




He absolutely can say whatever he wants. Hell, rent a billboard that says 'I hate gays' for all I care.

But his comments stemmed from being questioned in regards to his donations to groups seeking to ban gay marriage.

Saying 'Gay marriage is against my beliefs' is a different thing from saying 'let's ban gay marriage'.

I have no problem with him expressing his opinion. In the end, history will shame him.

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Your line of thought is escaping me. Every legislation owes its birth to someone holding an opinion strong enough to seek its becoming law of the land. You are also equating marriage as a right which I believe is a dubious assertion that one has a right to.

Furthermore, elected officials (or unelected officials acting on behalf of the public) shouldn't be dispensing the duties of their offices by such decree that Chicago and Boston are doing. If one supports the Chicago stance that they won't grant zoning permits based on political beliefs/donations by their CEO then whats to say we extend that to those that donate/support PETA, Tea Party, ACLU, Abortion Groups, et. al. What's to say that a certain business that donated to your political rival last election needs to request a zoning variance . . . they gonna dispense their duties based on that?

If the CEO of GM believes in outlawing gay marriage at the same time he wants to build a factory employing 300 plus in Chicago, will Raham and company do the same to him?

And I find it hypocritical that Raham worked for administrations that opposed gay marriage, he buys gasoline ostensibly from countries that would execute someone for being gay and if Cathy doesn't reflect the values of Chicago does Obama? He only came around thanks to Biden.

It is rather a grand statement to make that history will shame him. Lets face it PDR, by Tuesday, no one will be talking about this.

Well, maybe us but that's probably it. lol

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I went to Buffalo Wild Wings as I usually do on Saturday mornings after my 8 mile walk.

There is a Chick next door. I didn't see any protesting, but i sure saw business booming....I mean booming....people were showing support....the place was absolutely packed...that or they were giving free sandwiches away...I mean it was hopping.


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Chick-Fil-A does almost everything right.

They have great food, that is always hot and fresh, great service, and super friendly employees.

That's always a recipe for success.


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I haven't gone there since I learned they're owned by the Baptist Church. If I had a top 10 list of reasons to be glad to be out of the south, Southern Baptists would have to make the top 3.

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Who is owned by the baptist church? Buf. Wild Wings, or Chick?

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Who is owned by the baptist church? Buf. Wild Wings, or Chick?




Either way, seems like a pretty ridiculous reason not to go somewhere.



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Chick-Fil-A does almost everything right.

They have great food, that is always hot and fresh, great service, and super friendly employees.

That's always a recipe for success.




Not to mention the fact I think Men's Health voted them the healthiest FF chain a few years back. They have great platters my neighbors and I all buy for poker nights, too. Huge hit after we get 1, 2, 15 beers deep...


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They aren't owned by the Baptist Church.


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Who is owned by the baptist church? Buf. Wild Wings, or Chick?




Either way, seems like a pretty ridiculous reason not to go somewhere.




Kinda like people that gripe about oil company profits - not realizing they are invested in oil companies for their pensions, money markets, etc.

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The Chic by us is always packed. I doubt it's all that much about "support". I find going there because of what he said as silly as not going there because of what he said.

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They aren't owned by the Baptist Church.




No, not on paper.

Lets all go get some tomorrow. Oh WAIT, they're closed on Sundays . . .

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The Chic by us is always packed. I doubt it's all that much about "support". I find going there because of what he said as silly as not going there because of what he said.





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They aren't owned by the Baptist Church.




No, not on paper.

Lets all go get some tomorrow. Oh WAIT, they're closed on Sundays . . .






Then why say it if you know it isn't true.

And good for them allowing their employees a for sure day off with their families.

Liquor stores aren't open on Sundays in most states. Does the Baptist Church own them as well?


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Then why say it if you know it isn't true.




It's what he believes. He just can't prove it in writing judge

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They aren't owned by the Baptist Church.




No, not on paper.

Lets all go get some tomorrow. Oh WAIT, they're closed on Sundays . . .






Then why say it if you know it isn't true.




It's a figure of speech. I'm pretty sure you've heard the term "owned" when talking about a person or group being in someone's pocket.

I lived in Anniston, AL (twice) and LaGrange, GA from 1977 to 1989. If the topic of this chicken joint ever came up there was a really good chance you'd hear this accusation, figure of speech, whatever you want to call it. Whether or not this is true, I don't really care (ooohhh jump on me for that one...).

The point I did a horrible job of making is that they have put their Christian values out in the public's face for as long as I can remember, and I have never cared for it.

If you want, we can discuss the numerous Baptists I know who swear Proctor & Gamble supports Satanism. Man, I WISH that were a joke . . .

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First, I had never really heard the saying about the Baptist church owning them.

I have never spent any real time in Anniston, only drove through at some point in the past, but LaGrange is a nice town. What about it was it that made you in a big hurry to leave?? Understand my impressions are molded from weekend visits....more than a few, but weekend visits none the less. I understand visiting somewhere and living somewhere are different things.

As for the P&G thing, who knows how rumors like that get started and take off. I remember in the 70's people were convinced McDonalds meat contained worms as a additive. It didn't matter that at the time a lb of beef might have been $1.90 and a lb of worms might have been $5.


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