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Anderson clearly has a stronger arm, wouldn't you agree? Seemed to me his passes in the 15+ yd range gave the receiver a much better chance to gain YAC (let alone not get killed waiting on a floater).

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Yes he has a much stroner arm. He also is pretty immobile and has shown throught his college career as well as his short pro career that he makes horrible decsions. His accuracy is also very questionable. Not to mention he also fumbles a lot.

He had 8 ints in only 117 pass attempts last year. Add another 57 in college. Little over 56% completion rate to go with preformances in the lower than 51% in college. Here is what one site has to say...

The third-year starter was the first quarterback to lead the Beavers to three bowl games during the school's 112-year history … Possesses 20 of the top 50 single-game passing marks (over 281 yards) in OSU annals … Only the second player in Pac-10 Conference history to throw for over 4,000 yards in a season … Only Andrew Walter of Arizona State (85, 2001-04) threw for more touchdowns in Pac-10 history than Anderson (79) … A seven-handicap golfer, he is a big athlete who wore size-17 shoes prior to age 10, forcing his parents to order shoes from the Portland Trail Blazers … A right-handed passer, but writes left-handed … First player in Oregon prep annals to earn Class 3A Player of the Year honors in both basketball and football in the same season … The Scappoose (Ore.) High product threw for 8,177 yards and 85 touchdowns during his three-year football career. Scappoose won the state title his senior year and he was selected the top quarterback in the state and second in the nation by Super Prep Magazine at the conclusion of his senior year … Averaged 26.8 points and 10.8 rebounds during his senior year on the basketball court, earning first-team all-state as a junior and senior … Finished his prep career earning four letters in football and basketball, and two in track and field (shot put, hurdles, 1,600-meter relay) and played in numerous postseason all-star games in football and basketball, including the inaugural National High School All-Star game in Highland, Texas … One of the most physically gifted quarterbacks in Oregon State football history, he possesses all the tools that made him among the most productive players in Division I-A football … Has excellent arm strength and ended his career as the school's record holder for most of the program's passing records … Played in five games as a true freshman, hitting on 17 of 41 passes (41.5 percent) for 263 yards, a touchdown and three interceptions … Moved into the starting lineup in 2002, setting school single-season records with 3,313 yards and 25 touchdowns, topping the previous marks of 3,053 yards by Jonathan Smith in 1999 and 20 scoring strikes by Smith in 2000. He completed 47.0 percent of his passes (211 of 449) with 13 interceptions that season, but was sacked 25 times and had nine fumbles … Broke his own school record and had the second-best season in Pac-10 Conference annals when he threw for 4,058 yards in 2003 (record held by Washington's Cody Pickett, who threw for 4,458 yards in 2002) … Connected on 261 of 510 passes (51.2 percent) with 24 touchdowns as a junior, but also set a school record and tied a conference mark with 24 interceptions, sharing those dubious Pac-10 honors with Dan Fouts of Oregon (1970), Ty Paine of Washington State (1970) and Chris Rowland of Washington (1973) … Extended his consecutive starts string to 38 in 2004, completing 279 of 515 passes (54.2 percent) for 3,615 yards, 29 touchdowns and 17 interceptions … One of only six Pac-10 quarterbacks to pass for more than 10,000 yards – joining Carson Palmer (Southern California), Steve Stenstrom (Stanford), Cade McNown (UCLA), Cody Pickett (Washington) and Andrew Walter (Arizona State) … For his career, Anderson completed 768 of 1,515 passes (50.7 percent) for 11,249 yards, 79 touchdowns and 57 interceptions, breaking the old school career records of 9,680 yards and 55 scores by Jonathan Smith (1998-2001) … Only Erik Wilhelm (870, 1985-88) had more pass completions in OSU annals and Anderson's 57 interceptions are surpassed only by Wilhelm's 61 on the school and Pac-10 all-time record list … His 10,716 yards in total offense broke Smith's previous school record of 9,680 … While his passing statistics are impressive, his turnovers are equally alarming … Anderson's 57 interceptions resulted in 999 yards and six touchdowns in returns by opponents … He fumbled the ball 23 times, with 14 resulting in turnovers and his indecision in the pocket resulted in him being sacked 95 times for losses of 665 yards during his career.


ANALYSIS
Well-built athlete with a tall frame and long limbs … Has a compact delivery, but raw mechanics … Carries the ball low and will revert to a slight side-arm slinger-type of delivery when on the move … Has a lot of passes deflected at the line of scrimmage when he does not unleash with a high release … Throws a tight spiral with velocity and low trajectory, but shows inconsistency on most of his throws … Has completed just a little bit over half of his pass attempts and is prone to forcing his tosses into a crowd, resulting in 57 interceptions for his career … Plays with poise and will step up in the pocket to take a hit, but gets tunnel vision by locking on to his primary target, then forces the ball to that receiver, causing his wideouts to constantly look back at the pocket rather than progress through their routes … Is best in the short and intermediate areas, where he can hit his targets on the move … Has adequate foot quickness in his drops, but is inconsistent with his depth and push from the center … Can get the ball out quickly when he needs to, but also shows a bit of a long-arm action too often … Really doesn't set his feet consistently and throws fading or off balance way too much … Has a tendency to just flick the ball and float it … Doesn't always square up rolling right or left and lacks accuracy in all areas due to poor mechanics … Knows how to take something off and use touch … Can put good velocity on throws when he sets his feet and steps into throws, but is inconsistent reading defenses and finding the open receiver … Has just adequate agility in the pocket, but does run well once he breaks out … Displays all the physical tools you look for in a quarterback, but he hasn't stepped up and been the player he's capable of being … His long ball accuracy is a very big concern, as he seems to have plenty of arm strength behind it, but his throws are frequently off target … If some coach can unearth his talent, that NFL team can have a late-round find … Will be drafted more on his physical ability rather than production … Based on physical talent and arm strength, he's certainly worth a look in camp, but he needs to drastically upgrade his development to be considered anything more than a camp talent.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/2005/anderson_derek


Has he improved? What I saw from him in camp on several occasions, not much. He had a good half against KC but I think the half Frye played was as good or better. I only got to see that game once, so take my opinion with a grain of salt.

I don't think we are to thrilled with Frye, this guy if he was any good probably would have already taken over the starters job.

To me, the question isn't about Anderson.

To me, the proof Frye isn't a quality player is you have to defend his play against a player like Anderson.

Charlie should be way better than Anderson.....but he isn't.

Until Chuck makes major strides, he is always going to have the Andersons of the world nipping at his heels.


Really.....that is the problem and why there is a question in the minds of fans and staff alike.

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I don't think we are to thrilled with Frye, this guy if he was any good probably would have already taken over the starters job.

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That's why I want to get Carr. He has his share of baggage but he does have all the physical tools and has managed to play well at times for a terrible offensive team. I know we disagree when it comes to the draft. My feeling is we can't afford to draft a first round QB unless we can trade down and still get Quinn. The way it is sounding, that would be a pipe dream. I saw were you mentioned picking one up in the second. The only one I have read about with a second round grade is Drew Stanton. Being in the Big Ten region I have seen him fairly often. He scares me. The guy fron Standford might be sky rocketing soon. That also scares me. If he didn't do it on the field why are so many people putting stock in what he is doing now?

So because someone throws out an ignorant comparison of Anderson to Frye that has to be refuted, that means proves Frye isn't a quality player? Maybe those making the comparison aren't quality football minds.

Anderson clearly has the stronger arm, but strong arms aren't everything...

Anderson makes mistakes even with a stronger arm.... Frye makes mistakes too...

Each QB has their positives and negatives... like every other QB in the league.....

What's this FIT [censored]???

When you gonna calm down when someone says something..
Get a grip before you blow a gasket..


Do u know something I don't about a Chudzinski Offense???

I gotta a little hunch..a bit of SD..a bit of Miami..similar to UM..that is..notice the guards we're bringing in?
We seem to equate a "power running attack" as the Pittsburgh and Baltimore slam it up the gut with big backs and bigger linemen; because it's what we're used to seeing. It's not always necessarily the case. Some of the more productive running attacks over the past few years have gone the route of more athletic linemen to open up what you can do with an offense: Carolina, Tennessee, Atlanta, Denver, Seattle, etc.

The other misnomer in this throught process is that Chudzinski is bringing an offense just like the Chargers who do fit that smashmouth mold we're more accustomed to. But what he is likely bringing is less of San Diego and a little more Miami. The University of Miami that is, where Chudzinski was last an offensive coordinator during their NC runs in 02 and 03.

The Terrelle Smith cutting should have been the first major indicator of which direction Chud will be going becuase when you look at SD, you see Lorenzo Neal. Very much like Smith in style. But when you look at our new starting FB, Lawrence Vickers; very similar to Najeh Davenport who was FB/RB in that Miami offense.

To address Carr and Green..mentally who's in better shape?
Carr needs coaching, Carr has the arm but bad habits now and it all won't be straightened out this season..
Green he just needs a better body

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But that would mean that Frye's talent level is that of a decent backup

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Something many people have said all along....