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How do you vote for the things, when there are candidates and you don't know anything about either one.
Oh sure, we can all have a favorite for , President, or senate, ... or whatever, but here, we have to vote for judges and what not, and , well unless I stand before one, I don't know anythign about these people.
Don't expect me to beleive you know all about every candidate either.
So What do you do?
I leave alot of them blank. but the others.
I vote by first name. The Candidates first name, if , in my experience I've known someone else with that first name and they were a (bad word) , compared to someone else with that same first name who seemed to be nice and have common sense.
Well I vote for the candidate with the first name of someone who I liked.
Does anyone else vote by firstname?
Do you think this is an outrage, or idiocy, well, .... that's what I do, and you can't stop me. ( yet) 
What wierd things do you do to pick a candidate, ... like for county animal carcase removal comissioner?
Judges, I vote no, basically because I don't think any elected position should be a lifelong career, and terms should be limited. The easiest way to do that is just to vote them out each cycle. They served their term, I thank them for their service, now it's time for the next one to step up.
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I also expect a serious push for at least one state to ceseed.
I didn't know Donald Trump posted here...... 
You guys all posted this same crap 4 years ago and we're all still here. Climb down off the ledge.
You'd think as Browns fans you guys would be a bit more used to losing than you're showing this morning.
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.. " The other take away from this is, with the changing population mix, it's going to be impossible for super a conservative republican to win the presidential race in the near term future.. " ........................................................................................................................... Depends on how much money ( and jobs and personal wealth ) leave the Country over the next four years ? What new tax's and regulations come into play ? Pressure by external forces ( Euro finances ) .. Not a dooms day kind of guy : BUT it is going to get interesting .. Like the old say gos .... Be careful what you wish for  .. A Country this divided is in BIG trouble .. Bank on it 
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Yes.
However I doubt Feds care about anyone carrying an ounce.
Six pot plants however..
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Guys like you really need to learn to stop being such sore losers. The fact that as late as about 11 pm last night you were still saying there was a chance for Romney if he swept like 8 swing states shows you weren't dealing in reality.
In all reality, it was 2 outs in the bottom of the ninth down by 6 the minute Pennsylvania was called.
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Guys like you really need to learn to stop being such sore losers. The fact that as late as about 11 pm last night you were still saying there was a chance for Romney if he swept like 8 swing states shows you weren't dealing in reality.
In all reality, it was 2 outs in the bottom of the ninth down by 6 the minute Pennsylvania was called.
Obama won by 46K votes in FLA, 100K Votes in Ohio and 106K Votes in Virgina. That's a pretty close margin if you ask me. Had they went for Romney you would of had no 270 Electoral Winner.
This election was very close and as others have said it shows how divided this country is.
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Guys like you really need to learn to stop being such sore losers. The fact that as late as about 11 pm last night you were still saying there was a chance for Romney if he swept like 8 swing states shows you weren't dealing in reality.
In all reality, it was 2 outs in the bottom of the ninth down by 6 the minute Pennsylvania was called.
Obama won by 46K votes in FLA, 100K Votes in Ohio and 106K Votes in Virgina. That's a pretty close margin if you ask me. Had they went for Romney you would of had no 270 Electoral Winner.
This election was very close and as others have said it shows how divided this country is.
I didn't say it was impossible, but it was a very steep climb. When Penn. was called, Mitt basically had to run the table. The chances of him winning ALL of the too-close-to-call states wasn't very good. Everything I saw was saying that Florida was very close with the only non-reporting districts being very blue heavy. It wan't hard to see how things were falling.
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Nate Silver Killed it (as did the Princeton Election Consortium) -- basically went 50 for 50 on predictions (since both had Florida as too close to call).
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This election was very close and as others have said it shows how divided this country is.
United we stand, divided we fall. The fall is going to continue I fear. I am happy to have gotten to experience the greatness that this country once was. I am sad that my son will likely not get that experience. Every great democracy falls, I was hoping that I would not be around to see it.  . I know I'm going to get jumped on for over exaggerating, but I do not feel that I am. I am very sad for my country today.
I hope I am wrong, but I do not see O being the leader to pull us out of this mess.
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However I doubt Feds care about anyone carrying an ounce.
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well, if you got more than the ounce or whatever they allow, then yeah,, you've also broken Colorado law..
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If i can survive 8 years of Bush, you can survive 4 more years of Obama lol.
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Time will tell : But I am with CDawg on this one .. It was more than an election ( 4 years ) it is the way the younger folks view American Life !
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However I doubt Feds care about anyone carrying an ounce.
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well, if you got more than the ounce or whatever they allow, then yeah,, you've also broken Colorado law..
You can have an ounce on your person and up to 6 plants growing of your own.
Federal law does supersede it but they aren't going to mess with it. Who would send the feds in? Obama won't protect the border, do you think the cokehead in chief is going to care about a little weed in Colorado?
No, the feds will use this like locals use seatbelt laws, just something else to hit you with when they have you on other charges.
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I just hope that in 2016 that the Republicans stop with the "Democrat Lite" crap and actually run a conservative candidate with real, legitimate conservative chops. I am so sick of having establishment candidates like McCain and Romney being the choice for the Republican party. If the voters want a Democrat, they'll vote for the Democrat.
I do think that Ron Paul showed that a candidate with more Libertarian beliefs can bring in young people. He simply had too many problems in areas like national defense, and such, to make more mainstream Republican voters feel secure with him.
If the Republican Party doesn't take a hard look at itself and decide to become something other than "not those guys", then they will continue to lose elections like this that require statewide and national support. The House races are primarily local. Senate races are statewide, and the Republicans got lambasted there. Wackos like Akin and the other guy who made a rape comment didn't help at all. Ditto for the Presidency. You have to win states to win the Presidency, and you have to be able to be something other than "not that guy" in order to do so.
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United we stand, divided we fall. The fall is going to continue I fear. I am happy to have gotten to experience the greatness that this country once was. I am sad that my son will likely not get that experience. Every great democracy falls, I was hoping that I would not be around to see it. . I know I'm going to get jumped on for over exaggerating, but I do not feel that I am. I am very sad for my country today.
You guys all said virtually the same thing 4 years ago. Excuse me if I scoff at the notion that just because your guy lost we're all circling the toilet drain. Although if you all keep telling yourself, for the next 4 years, that things are worse I'm sure you'll convince yourself of that.
To paraphrase Mourg, if we withstood 8 years of the Bush administration I think we'll be OK after 4 more years of Obama.
Now wipe away those tears and get back in the saddle......
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Looks like its 4 more years of bitching and moaning on republicanbrowns fans.com, I mean dawgtalkers.com. At least now there is the everything else forum, now we just need a political forum. 
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We'll see what this country looks like in 4 years.
This election proved that a 100% negative campaign can work, despite having a lousy record.
No, negative campaigns don't work or Romney would be president.
And oh, BTW, I said the same thing I quoted above when Bush got his second term.
I doubt you'll be as right as I was.
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. It was more than an election ( 4 years ) it is the way the younger folks view American Life !
IT is because most kids are social liberals. Now to be honest, many are also fiscal conservative but that is lost because of the absolute hate speeches by right wing nuts that spew their radio venom. Hell they should be scared when Romney is endorsing a guy that is saying rape that results in pregancy was blessed by God. Hello McFly!!! Wonder why you are having trouble with the women vote?
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If i can survive 8 years of Bush, you can survive 4 more years of Obama lol.
I've had to suffer 8 years of Bush and now 8 years of Obama. They are 1a and 1b as far as bad presidents go. I find it bizarre that anyone would celebrate the election of this man for a second term. I'll never understand it.
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just hope that in 2016 that the Republicans stop with the "Democrat Lite" crap and actually run a conservative candidate with real, legitimate conservative chops. I am so sick of having establishment candidates like McCain and Romney being the choice for the Republican party.
Just responding to this portion of your post.
Never gonna happen again Ytown.. I don't believe that with the change in the population mix that a true, dyed in the wool, conservative has a chance in hell of winning the White House.
A guy like Reagan wouldn't survive it and he was conservative but had a strong "TV IQ" if you know what I mean. The man could communicate an idea better than any president before him or since. (in my lifetime of course, obviously, FDR could communicate as well But I wasn't born yet and due to being born in 1952, I was pretty young during Ikes terms in office so I'd have no real handle on him either.)
But given the population mix, I honestly don't think a true conservative has a chance.
but honestly, I'd like to find out. Maybe Paul Ryan will run next time.
To Tell you the truth, I blame a lot of this on GOP's inability to strike a bargain within their own party. They are fractured internally and until they resolve that, they'll not get a true conservative to run.
But hey,, look down the road on the Dem side, they don't have much to offer up either so who knows. I can't think of a legitimate Democratic candidate at this point. Biden won't be that guy.. of course if he is, Republicans will be overjoyed. they can run a rag mop against him and win I think
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I didn't feel this way after the last election. Bush sucked, no doubt, and I could understand voting for Obama in 08. He had a good plan, if you believed him, and got his supporters very excited. The question is, what has he done that he said he would do? The only thing I can think of is force the abomination of a health care bill down our throats. I didnt care for Romney, but fiscally he is a lot closer to my beliefs. Socially, not really, but this election for me was about 2 things: the economy and deficit. In my opinion Obama is going to do nothing to improve either. The continual blame Bush rhetoric is old and tiresome, but apparently not to everyone.
We were circling the toilet drain long before 08 but accelerated the flush with the beliefs and agenda of this administration. Again, my opinion, and there are apparently 60 million or so others that disagree with me as well. I'll be OK no matter what happens as I've prepared for the worst. I'm not any better nor any worse after the fist 4 years of Obama and I do hope the same can be said in 4 years. I personally think our economy will crumble over Obamas next 4 years as the man is clueless.
I have no tears and won't have to "get back in the saddle". I'll continue to go about my business - thanks for telling me how I should feel though.
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If i can survive 8 years of Bush, you can survive 4 more years of Obama lol.
I've had to suffer 8 years of Bush and now 8 years of Obama. They are 1a and 1b as far as bad presidents go. I find it bizarre that anyone would celebrate the election of this man for a second term. I'll never understand it.
Take off your blinders. I agree with the Bush statement portion. I felt he should of been impeached. But can you honestly say that Ohio and country isn't better than it was 4 years ago? My step dad had to move to Minnesota to find work. There was 16% unemployment in my mother's county in Ohio. They would cut the heat off at work to save money so they wouldnt have to fire anymore ppl. All that has changed. We out of Iraq, Bin Laden is dead, auto industry is back, economy is stable and on the incline. Give some credit where it is due.
If Romney/Ryan was so great then why did neither pull their home states, Mass. and Wis.?
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I see. I don't have blinders on when talking about Bush, but I do have blinders on when talking about your guy. This is exactly the kind of hypocrisy going on all over this thread. It's pathetic. Credit? You can sit there with a straight face and tell me Obama has made things better?! Wow. Take out a mirror and check out the person with the blinders on.
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Great .. reports of voter fraud in Ohio ...... with 2 election judges, 1 Democrat and 1 Republican allowing unregistered voters to just sign the book and vote ........ and other reports of people trying to vote and being told that they have already voted via absentee ballot.
Why is it that we cannot get elections right? Why would 2 election judges so blatantly break the law?
For states that want to establish a voter ID law, NOW is the time to do it, far enough in advance of the next election that it can be put in place, and so that the legal challenges can be heard. The wrong time for this stuff is a month or 2 before the next election.
I see no good reason that voters cannot show an ID when they vote. However, trying to force through law changes at the last minute is wrong, and stupid. It also has the appearance, whether true or not, of an attempt at voter suppression.Make the changes now if you want changes for the next election. That way they can be in place, and have been through the inevitable challenges. People can then know what they need in order to vote. (those paying attention anyway)
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I've had to suffer 8 years of Bush and now 8 years of Obama. They are 1a and 1b as far as bad presidents go. I find it bizarre that anyone would celebrate the election of this man for a second term. I'll never understand it.
Take off your blinders. I agree with the Bush statement portion. I felt he should of been impeached. But can you honestly say that Ohio and country isn't better than it was 4 years ago? My step dad had to move to Minnesota to find work. There was 16% unemployment in my mother's county in Ohio. They would cut the heat off at work to save money so they wouldnt have to fire anymore ppl. All that has changed. We out of Iraq, Bin Laden is dead, auto industry is back, economy is stable and on the incline. Give some credit where it is due.
If Romney/Ryan was so great then why did neither pull their home states, Mass. and Wis.?
Yes things are better now than they were when Obama took office, especially in the short term. Long term though, there's a lot to be desired, especially if he doesn't reign in his spending soon. I understand spending to try to prop the economy up, at least to a point. I thnk even if McCain were elected, we would have seen the spending we saw. Now we need to cut back on it, big time.
While I applaud getting some type of health care reform in, it leaves a lot to be desired. There is a lot to it that needs fixed. Hopefully they can find a way to do it.
I couldn't bring myself to vote for either Romney or Obama this election. Either one would come filled with negatives that outweigh the positives.
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Talk about a bad couple of investments WWE's Linda McMahon spends $97 million on Senate races, gets zilch By Houston Mitchell November 7, 2012, 9:01 a.m. Linda McMahon, a former president and CEO of WWE, failed in her bid for a Senate seat in Connecticut, losing to Democratic Rep. Chris Murphy on Tuesday. This comes on the heels of her 2010 loss to Richard Blumenthal in the race for the state's other seat in the Senate. Total cost to lose two elections: Around $97 million.
McMahon, a Republican, spent $50 million of her personal fortune in her failed 2010 campaign, and is believed to have spent approximately $47 million this time around. That's the most that any candidate has ever spent from their own pocket to win federal office.McMahon drew the ire of some Republicans when she began running TV ads last week featuring voters for President Obama who said they would vote for her too. Her campaign also distributed fliers urging voters to pick Obama for president and then vote for her. Those moves would seem to end any chances of her running again in the future, as it seems unlikely the Republican Party would throw its support behind someone who advised people to vote for Obama. It seems she took a page from the pro wrestling playbook, turning heel against the Republicans in order to further her own ambitions. Or, if you prefer, she did a riff on the classic "Million Dollar Man" character, spending $97 million to win the big prize. Of course, she should have realized that never worked for the "Million Dollar Man," who spent a lot of money but never won the WWE title. web page
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For states that want to establish a voter ID law, NOW is the time to do it, far enough in advance of the next election that it can be put in place, and so that the legal challenges can be heard. The wrong time for this stuff is a month or 2 before the next election.
I see no good reason that voters cannot show an ID when they vote. However, trying to force through law changes at the last minute is wrong, and stupid. It also has the appearance, whether true or not, of an attempt at voter suppression.Make the changes now if you want changes for the next election. That way they can be in place, and have been through the inevitable challenges. People can then know what they need in order to vote. (those paying attention anyway)
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You can sit there with a straight face and tell me Obama has made things better?! Wow. Take out a mirror and check out the person with the blinders on.
This is the heart of the matter, but only to those who choose to open their eyes to it. When you think about all the promises he made in 2008, very little was kept. Today we have unemployment at 8%, uncontrollable debt, $3.40 gas prices, all the same Washington BS. The "great uniter" has been the great divider waging class warfare and I feel we are more divided as a country as ever.
Now that we have a lame duck President we'll see the real guy come out. For better or worse. His entire first term was about getting re-elected; just as his Senate stint was all about becoming President. Now what will he do when he isn't trying to get elected? Only time will tell, but the fiscal cliff is coming fast. The Market is tanking today as people realize the same guy gets 4 more years to pile up the debt.
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There should be a government issued Photo ID for all americans. No ID, no vote. No ID, no work.
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Yes things are better now than they were when Obama took office
Uh, wait what?? The unemployment rate when Obama took office was 7.8% (It was actually 6.8 the day he got elected, and jumped a full point by January) and it's 7.9-8% now. The Federal Budget has gove from 1.4 trillion (Bush's last submitted budget) to 3.8 trillion. With that 2.4 trillion difference, he could of just straight out handed 48 million Americans 50,000 a year jobs ... yet unemployment hasn't changed a bit and the national debt is through the sky.
Meanwhile you have to wonder how accurate that 7.9% unemployment number is ... because lots of small businesses I know are already looking at moving full-time employees to part-time, because they can't afford them to be FT thanks to Obamacare.
Better off? At best, we're exactly where we were before.
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The economy will imporve regardless of who the puppet in the White House is, it's just a matter of how fast and how much that progress will be. Our biggest concern is the looming debt and deficit, and any inaction to deal with it will decide the direction and progress of this country. But in general the economy will improve regardless.
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Congratulations to the President on a good win. I hope republicans make an effort to work with him and I hope he reciprocates that effort.
I am still a firm believer that conservative policies are the best policies but the republican party is in trouble because it is being run by morons, the people that are put on TV to represent conservatism are morons.... There is an under current of a youth movement developing in the republican party and I sincerely hope that some of them come along with some new ideas and a fresh approach at presenting and conveying that message to the public because if they don't, the whole party is destined to become irrelevant for a long time on a national scale.....
The party needs to distance itself from the likes of Hannity and Palin and Coulter... even though I think most of the democrats ideas regarding fiscal policy are wrong, at least they come across as having ideas... the republicans appear to have no vision and no plan.
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. It was more than an election ( 4 years ) it is the way the younger folks view American Life !
IT is because most kids are social liberals. Now to be honest, many are also fiscal conservative but that is lost because of the absolute hate speeches by right wing nuts that spew their radio venom. Hell they should be scared when Romney is endorsing a guy that is saying rape that results in pregancy was blessed by God. Hello McFly!!! Wonder why you are having trouble with the women vote?
I'm part of the younger generation (under 30 voters). Let me preface this by saying I really hate Romney, but I hate Obama even more.
That being said, I believe you are correct. I am VERY fiscally conservative. Many in my generation are because it's almost an echo of the depression - my age demographic hit the job market right at the time the Great Recession became imminent. I definitely fall in line with hard-line cuts to make sure the budget is balanced. Bad for short term. Good for long term.
As far as social issues, I wouldn't consider myself liberal or conservative. I am against abortion, but I'm also against the death penalty. As far as a lot of the other social issues go, if it doesn't affect me or my family, I don't care.
I feel like my generation isn't shifting to what is considered "liberal" as much as it is shifting to what is considered "libertarian." At least from my perspective. Let the government step in only when it needs to do so.
I do have a problem with people that talk down to my generation though, as I've said before. You don't hand someone a tab for $16 trillion that you have accumulated out of irresponsibility and then throw mud in their face.
Blue ostriches on crack float on milkshakes between the sidewalk titans of gurglefitz. --YTown
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Congratulations to the President on a good win. I hope republicans make an effort to work with him and I hope he reciprocates that effort.
I am still a firm believer that conservative policies are the best policies but the republican party is in trouble because it is being run by morons, the people that are put on TV to represent conservatism are morons.... There is an under current of a youth movement developing in the republican party and I sincerely hope that some of them come along with some new ideas and a fresh approach at presenting and conveying that message to the public because if they don't, the whole party is destined to become irrelevant for a long time on a national scale.....
The party needs to distance itself from the likes of Hannity and Palin and Coulter... even though I think most of the democrats ideas regarding fiscal policy are wrong, at least they come across as having ideas... the republicans appear to have no vision and no plan.
Not that you need my validation, but this is a beautiful post.
Blue ostriches on crack float on milkshakes between the sidewalk titans of gurglefitz. --YTown
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There should be a government issued Photo ID for all americans. No ID, no vote. No ID, no work.
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and when he took office it was losing nearly 1 million jobs a month. You can play the numbers game there all you want... the economy was completely in the . due to 2 wars and years (not just bush) of bad policies that led to the housing bubble that burst.
nice try...
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