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I worked for a McDonalds' franchisee here in Youngstown years ago.
They offered one insurance plan for their managers and shift managers ...... and another, different plan for their employees.
Off on a tangent....Wouldn't it be ironic if McD's banned its employees from smoking like the casino thread? 
They would have one helluva time finding employees for most stores. Many stores have employees who are from inner city type areas, even if the store itself is not.A disproportionate number of those young adults smoke.
Sad but true.
Man, I couldn't even afford to smoke anymore, even if I wanted to. lol It doesn't matter though, because when I quit, I quit forever.
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I worked for a McDonalds' franchisee here in Youngstown years ago.
They offered one insurance plan for their managers and shift managers ...... and another, different plan for their employees.
Off on a tangent....Wouldn't it be ironic if McD's banned its employees from smoking like the casino thread?
Big difference between an existing company making a rule change like that, and a new company making hiring choices. The thing people seem to misunderstand about the Casino is they had a no smoking mandate from the day they opened. They didn't suddenly tell currently employees they couldn't smake anymore. They either accepted the job or not based on their willingness to forego the smoking habit.
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I worked for a McDonalds' franchisee here in Youngstown years ago.
They offered one insurance plan for their managers and shift managers ...... and another, different plan for their employees.
Off on a tangent....Wouldn't it be ironic if McD's banned its employees from smoking like the casino thread?
Big difference between an existing company making a rule change like that, and a new company making hiring choices. The thing people seem to misunderstand about the Casino is they had a no smoking mandate from the day they opened. They didn't suddenly tell currently employees they couldn't smake anymore. They either accepted the job or not based on their willingness to forego the smoking habit.
Understood, but they could still do it. Cleveland Clinic did it as I recall. My point in the irony would be how unhealthy MCDs fast food is but ban smoking for its employees. Won't happen, but the thought of it is kinda funny.
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As long as unemployment is high, this will continue to happen to the low end jobs (which could be equivalently filled by a large number of employees). For those jobs, health care is a larger percentage of the total cost to the employer, and swapping out one employee who smokes for one who doesn't is a small cost. Even if the employer doesn't provide health insurance, this is reasonable since it cuts down on breaks, doesn't annoy other employees/customers etc.
When unemployment goes down, this trend will slow, because a higher percentage of low end employees need to be hired.
You will never see this happen at high end jobs, because the value of different employees is much greater, and health care costs are a much smaller portion of the employee's total compensation.
I don't think this has much to do with Obamacare, it's just capitalism and market forces at work.
I think a very early place to see this kind of behavior is McDonalds.
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