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I would agree with most of that.
I do get irritated when I see receivers running open, and being missed by the QB. I had similar frustrations last year with McCoy too. He would largely ignore the deeper receivers entirely. This year, though, we are more likely to miss the throw than having the QB completely ignore the deeper routes. I'm not sure which is worse.
I heard something on the radio the other day about rookie QBs .... and I think that it could be true .....
Rookie QBs generally avoid the middle of the field because it's harder to work in there. A great TE can be a QB's best friend .... but the young QB has to learn to trust his ability to get the ball in there.
I have seen some of that from Weeden.
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Ugh. I know it's just highlights.
But Tannehill looked REALLY GOOD today against a good defense in Seattle...
Accurate throws and whatnot...
Just saying...
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Yeah, but he's looked even worse than Weeden at other times.
Rookie QBs this year have been really amazing, actually. None look like "typical" rookies.
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I just think he:
Fits our offense better.
Has a higher ceiling talent wise.
Has more time to reach it.
Did I want to draft him at 4? No.
But Tannehill/Martin is looking like a big hindsight-coulda-shoulda-woulda.. Basically Kendall's Perfect Storm of what could of happened..
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I think that unless Weeden improves over the next 5 games that we are in big trouble at QB.
I just don't think he's got it.
Him and TRich continue to be lowlights for me this season. That 15 yard TD run today was beautiful. Everything sandwiched around that was underwhelming for a #3 overall pick. He looks really slow to me. Wish he displayed more speed.
And I can't believe I'm saying this but if we find ourselves with the same QB roster next year, I wouldn't mind a competition at QB. As bad as it is with Weeden, I know it was way worse with McCoy, but I don't believe Weeden deserves to just be handed the job. He's a slightly...just very slightly...better version of DA and even thats debateable.
At least DA had balls.
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I don't like the use of the term "slow" with Richardson.
He is a very fast human being.
He just... never seems to get going... I don't know..
He dances, and Hardesty hits the hole, but then the coaches say they aren't going to change Richardsons style? Doesn't make sense...
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I think that unless Weeden improves over the next 5 games that we are in big trouble at QB.
I just don't think he's got it.
Him and TRich continue to be lowlights for me this season. That 15 yard TD run today was beautiful. Everything sandwiched around that was underwhelming for a #3 overall pick. He looks really slow to me. Wish he displayed more speed.
And I can't believe I'm saying this but if we find ourselves with the same QB roster next year, I wouldn't mind a competition at QB. As bad as it is with Weeden, I know it was way worse with McCoy, but I don't believe Weeden deserves to just be handed the job. He's a slightly...just very slightly...better version of DA and even thats debateable.
At least DA had balls.
I will disagree with this. The coach plays not to lose instead of to win. The team is following his lead. Once Pat is gone you will see a different QB without the shackles. Yeah Ints happen turnovers happen Pitt had 8 of them and only the 8th sealed their fate. Play to win!
If you need 3 years to be a winner you got here 2 years to early. Get it done Browns.
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I'd like to see that speed on the field.
Other than the one play against Cinci, I just don't see it.
I'd love to see him break to daylight and out run the D for a long TD run.
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I'll be honest. I think I fell for Trent's highlight package.
Peterson had a lot of break away runs at Oklahoma, and that transitioned to the NFL.
Trent was an athletic freak playing against teams like Old Miss, but he's no longer the best athlete on the field, and it shows.
He's never going to "bust" technically, but we gave up A LOT for him, and I fear we may never get a return..
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Makes perfect sense. Chilly laid it out very clearly. He stated you want two guys with different running styles to keep the defenses off-balance.
The problem is that we just aren't good at run-blocking so it looks better when Hardesty bangs it in there. Teams key-in on Richardson, not Hardesty. The Steelers were in our backfield all day long. When we had 2nd and short you could see the safeties walking to the line, and they almost always made the tackle.
On many occasions we've had backup RB's who put up good numbers in off-situations who really weren't as good as fans thought they were. We've had those types of backs here.
The bottom line is that until our line starts blocking well on the ground we're not going to get much out of any RB getting 20 touches a game. One guy might get a little something in spurts, but in the long-run we just aren't going to get far. That starts with the guards. Pinky has been outplayed by Greco, and Greco isn't a very good run-blocker. Lavauo has made strides as a pass-blocker but can't move anyone. We don't have a TE who is a good blocker, and we don't have a fullback on the roster.
It's easy to blame the QB's and the RB's, but without a line those players aren't going to be very good.
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I think you are way off base with your run blocking bashing.
But I agree with you that teams seem to know when to sell out for the run.
Those are two very different things and the latter is the bigger problem.
I wish we had a QB that could recognize what the D is doing and get us into the right play.
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Your QB would have to be allowed to change the play in order to get you into the right play.
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I wish we had a QB that could recognize what the D is doing and get us into the right play.
Is he allowed to?
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We do know that Weeden has the ability to audible since he's done it this season. It's not like Mangini who wouldn't let his QB's audible. Is that a lack of football intelligence? Is it being a rookie? Has he had the leash pulled in because the coaches don't trust him now? Hard to say, but if every one of us dumb fans can see it coming, then he should see it as well.
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Your QB would have to be allowed to change the play in order to get you into the right play.
That should be a pre-req to play QB in the NFL.
Its the primary reason why Brady and Manning are so awesome. They always get the O in the right play.
Its chess, not checkers. 
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I don't believe Shurmur allows the QB to audible. He didn't let Colt last year, we know that much.
He did say that Weeden has changed the play at the line, but never said whether or not he was allowed to do it or did it on his own. I suspect the latter.
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We do know that Weeden has the ability to audible since he's done it this season. It's not like Mangini who wouldn't let his QB's audible. Is that a lack of football intelligence? Is it being a rookie? Has he had the leash pulled in because the coaches don't trust him now? Hard to say, but if every one of us dumb fans can see it coming, then he should see it as well.
I don't recall Weeden audibling once today.
Not saying it didn't happen, but I don't recall.
I suspect Weeden just ran the plays called.
I think teams see this on tape and sell out for the run knowing Weeden won't change the play.
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Your QB would have to be allowed to change the play in order to get you into the right play.
That should be a pre-req to play QB in the NFL.
What should be a pre-req? Having a head coach that permits you to change plays at the line?
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I think all QBs should have the ability to step to the line, read the D, and audible to a different play if it will give you an advantage against that particular D.
A professional QB should have that ability or you shouldn't be a professional QB.
Whether or not the coaches allow it is a different question.
But if the coach isn't allowing it I would venture to guess that is more of an indictment on the QB than the coach.
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But if the coach isn't allowing it I would venture to guess that is more of an indictment on the QB than the coach.
Of course you would.
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But if the coach isn't allowing it I would venture to guess that is more of an indictment on the QB than the coach.
Of course you would.
I like how you act like you "caught" me in a backhanded criticism of Weeden. Oh, Adam_P you're a clever one. Way too clever for me. 
It was a criticism of Weeden or any QB who can only run the play they are given. Thats a serious disadvantage of any O.
It could also be Shurmur being an ass....a control freak ...or just a moron. That's certainly a possibility too.
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I'm not trying to be clever or catch you in anything. I think that its pretty unsurprising that, given the tone of your statements lately, you would read something into a situation in a way that supported your position.
Should I be surprised?
McCoy was not permitted to audible last year either. The defensive players were not permitted to call timeouts on the field last year. Those are far more indicative of your second scenario than of your first.
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You must have missed how much I hate Shurmur too.  Could have flipped a coin on who I would rather throw under a bus. I just have a hard time believing that a coach won't allow his QB to do something that should provide a significant competitive advantage unless they felt the QB couldn't handle it. What are the other reasons a coach wouldn't allow it? Ego? Control freak? Maybe that's what's going on here. I could see Shurmur pulling a stunt like that.
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Butch didn't let Garcia call audibles if I recall correctly.
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Butch didn't let Garcia call audibles if I recall correctly.
Ive watched Kaepernick ...whos essentially a rookie since he really didnt play last year ...call audibles all game long. He called one on his TD run.
I think all Harbaugh cares about is winning.
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Kaepernick has Harbaugh coaching him. Weeden has Shumur. Any further explanation needed?
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"It's like they're playing a different sport then you are!"
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Kaepernick has Harbaugh coaching him. Weeden has Shumur. Any further explanation needed?
Harbaugh walked into a situation with pieces but poor coaching.
I see the Browns in the same light. We have pieces but poor coaching.
Can we get our Harbaugh?
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Kaepernick has Harbaugh coaching him. Weeden has Shumur. Any further explanation needed?
Harbaugh walked into a situation with pieces but poor coaching.
I see the Browns in the same light. We have pieces but poor coaching.
Can we get our Harbaugh?
The similarities are there and I think they are legit comparisons.... the biggest difference is that the 49ers players really didn't seem to like Singletary and appeared to have quit ... but the Browns players still seem to be playing really hard for Shurmur...
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Maybe you ignored how he apologized to the coaches. He does that, then I don't need to see anything else.
You only apologize if you screw up.
But don't let the truth get in the way of you doing what you do best, which is pick fights for the sake of picking fights. 
My question still stands. At the time you posted this, you made these two statements in the exact same post. In one you said you needed to see the context before you know, then in the next breath you made a derogitory comment.
As per usual you dodged the question and somehow wish to dodge it based on something that came out after the fact.
People aren't as blind as you make them out to be. And I'd say your fan club isn't as large as you probably believe it is due to those exact type of actions described. I don't make the news Toad, I just report it.
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You "report" news like Toni Grossi reports news.
If every person had to wait until they were 100% sure before forming an opinion none of us would ever get to say anything.
But keep on tryin'
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Funny thing is, you're the one who said you would have to read it in its context before forming your opinion....... about 30 seconds before you formed your opinion. I didn't have to "try" anything. You did all the work for me. 
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