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I'm not sure why people think our QB's can't run an offense under Chip Kelly. Don't assume running QB if Kelly comes to the NFL.

Kelly would probably prefer Cam Newton and RG3 over Brandon Weeden, because it offers a few more options on top of those 2 just being better overall players, but I'm pretty sure he could make due with Weeden. I think you would see a ton of shotgun. I'm not saying he'd turn Weeden into a pro bowler and the Browns into a serious super bowl contender, but I think he could make it work, a lot more than Pat would running whatever it is we saw over the last 2 years.

If Chip Kelly did come to the Browns, I like that he has no NFL connections, that way you don't see the old hiring buddies thing that we saw with Holmgren. I still think his assistants should have NFL experience, but I would prefer that Kelly pick his own guys from a crop of current NFL assistants who have experience in the daily grind of the league.

It's a happy medium that seems very difficult to get to. I think it would be far too risky for him to bring all college assistants to the NFL. I think there has to be some experience in there. Guys who know what the day to day operations are like. I do love everything I hear about Kelly's organizational skills.

I'm not saying Kelly would be a risky move, I just think it would be a risk worth taking.

j/c

It's clear some people here need education on who Chip Kelly is.

Let’s Talk About Chip Kelly
Posted: December 29th, 2012 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 56 Comments »
Over the next few days I’ll be writing about coaching candidates. Since Chip is the most interesting, he is up first and gets far and away the longest piece. Rather than saying For/Against, I’m presenting the information for you to digest. I’ll let you know my preference in a couple of days.

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Chip Kelly is one of the hottest names in the coaching world. His innovative offense and aggressive style of coaching have changed the game of football from high school through the NFL. When Jon Gruden was fired, Kelly is one of the first people he sought out. Gruden wanted to learn Oregon’s offense. Think about that for a second. Gruden, arguably the most knowledgeable West Coast Offense guru on the planet Earth, chose Kelly above all the other brilliant coaches out there. That was the one guy he wanted to learn from. That speaks volumes.

What was Kelly’s response? Sure, I’ll teach you. Kelly went one beyond that and offered to hire Gruden as his offensive coordinator. Kelly thought they could spend a year together and learn from each other. Gruden thought about the offer, as crazy as that sounds, but his wife made it clear that wasn’t going to happen.

Bill Belichick brought Kelly in to Foxboro so the Patriots staff could pick his brain. Pete Carroll met with him so he could learn about the Oregon offense. Coaches with national titles and Super Bowls are seeking out Kelly to see just what he does and how it works. They want to learn from him.

This is payback, in a way. Kelly spent his younger years meeting with coaches to pick their brains. He visited colleges and NFL teams. He regularly talked to coaches. He went to clinics. Kelly wanted to soak up as much information as possible. Andy Reid played and coached at BYU. That was the first offense that really influenced him. He later learned the WCO from Mike Holmgren. Those two sources are the foundation of his playbook. Kelly built his playbook from the ground up. He took the principles of his high school and college coaches (run the ball) and added bits and pieces from all over to help him create an offense that could be fundamentally sound, simple, and explosive.

Ask Reid about football and he’ll tell you it is all about matchups. Kelly will largely agree. The difference is that Reid focused on his beloved passing game. Kelly sought out ways to create favorable running situations. Kelly loved the passing game earlier in his career, but the coaches around him preached the running game and that has been Kelly’s focus in the last decade.

Kelly played DB at New Hampshire. He wasn’t a star, but the coaches loved his effort and intensity. Upon graduation, Kelly went back to his high school and became the offensive coordinator. He had been a QB in high school so going back to that side of the ball was a natural fit. Kelly held this job for a few years.

While in high school, Kelly had befriended a rival coach named Sean McDonnell. When Kelly got into HS coaching, McDonnell had moved on to Boston University. Kelly would go visit him to learn the game and see football at the next level. McDonnell moved on to Columbia and in 1990 hired Kelly to come there and coach DBs and STs and work with the Freshman team. Kelly was the defensive coordinator at Johns Hopkins in 1993. In 1994 McDonnell got the job as offensive coordinator at UNH and hired Kelly to be the RBs coach. He did that for the next 3 years.

At that point there was an opening on the staff for the OL coach position. Head coach Bill Bowes brought in some candidates to interview. Kelly let it be known that he wanted the job. He didn’t have OL coaching experience, but did a good enough sales job that he got the position. This was a key moment. Kelly took a big risk by going for that job. It was outside his comfort zone. Failing there would have affected his coaching future in a big way. Kelly felt he knew football well enough and could learn what he needed about coaching OL.

Kelly is a very driven person. He likes challenges. He is extremely smart and hard-working. If a challenge can be overcome with brains and effort, he’ll get the job done. And that’s exactly what happened. Kelly installed a zone blocking scheme and the run game thrived. RB Jerry Azumah set the I-AA record for career rushing yards (6,193) and ran for 2,195 yards as a Senior in 1998.

McDonnell became the head coach in 1999 and chose Kelly to be the OC. That was the good news. The bad news, Azumah was gone and the offense didn’t have a stud RB to be the foundation of the attack. Kelly went to several schools and looked at some other offenses. He then came back to UNH and installed the spread option. UNH scored more points and won more games in 1999 than the year before with Azumah.

In 2004 QB Ricky Santos hit the field for Kelly. They were together for 3 seasons. Santos was somewhat of an afterthought when he was recruited, but he became a huge I-AA star. He rushed for 1,403 yards and 30 TDs. He threw for 13,212 yards and 123 TDs. UNH didn’t win a title, but made the playoffs all 4 years and had some postseason success. WR David Ball also put up huge numbers. He broke Jerry Rice’s record for career TDs.

Kelly started to develop some buzz in the coaching world. He had a QB, RB, and WR all set major records under him. The offense was good for 400 yards and 30 points virtually every week. And this was at New Hampshire, not exactly a football power. Kelly talked to some bigger schools. Nothing worked out. Tom Coughlin offered him a job with the Giants. Kelly was interested, but it was only Quality Control – Offense. Kelly would be assisting other coaches and more of an information guy. He turned down the offer because he wanted to coach. Kelly wanted to remain a coordinator.

Some say Kelly is arrogant. He’s picky about jobs. He’s picky about how things are done. He’s very demanding. Those around him think Kelly is more confident than arrogant. He’s always seeking out other coaches for ideas on how to improve his team. Kelly isn’t married to a specific offense or scheme. He does what works. Kelly certainly believes in himself and his ideas, but not blindly. If it isn’t working, he will make changes. He does have a lot of self confidence. Think about saying no to Tom Coughlin to keep your job as the OC at New Hampshire. You have to really believe in yourself to pass that opportunity up.

Kelly’s patience paid off when Oregon coach Mike Belotti offered him the OC job for the Ducks. Gary Crowton was the OC for Belotti, but moved to LSU to run their offense. Here is Nike owner and Oregon alum Phil Knight’s explanation of how Kelly got the job.

“Mike Bellotti figured that out. And it’s a little bit of a long story. But Bellotti lost to Utah (in 2005). (Then-Utah head coach) Urban Meyer was running the spread (offense) — one of the early adopters of the spread. In fact, some people credit him with being the inventor. Bellotti, when he saw that system, said, “We could use some of that. Literally, maybe within a year or two later, he decided to put in a spread. … He sent (offensive coordinator Gary Crowton) down to work with Urban Meyer. So he went down there and the offensive coordinator for Florida was Dan Mullen, who’s now the head coach of Mississippi State — I told you this was a long story. Anyway, (Mullen’s) from New Hampshire. And he says, ‘The guy who really knows this stuff is Chip Kelly up at the University of New Hampshire.’ So Crowton, when he came back he had some rough edges to the spread and he started calling Chip Kelly on Sundays saying, “This came up and I didn’t quite know what to do with it.” And Chip always had an answer. So, when LSU came and picked up Crowton, Bellotti knew he’d been talking to Chip Kelly, so he went to get Chip Kelly.”

Interestingly, Crowton also was the OC at New Hampshire early on his career. One small state, 3 offensive gurus (Crowton, Mullen, Kelly).

I think you know that Kelly delivered huge results at Oregon. Here are the numbers from his 2 years as the offensive coordinator.

2007 – 9-4 … Rushing 6th , Passing 64th, Overall 10th, Scoring 12th
RB Jonathan Stewart was #7 in the nation. QB Dennis Dixon was 2nd on team in rushing

2008 – 10-3 … Rushing 2nd, Passing 67th, Overall 7th, Scoring 7th
Jeremiah Johnson and LaGarrette Blount were the top rushers. QB J Masoli was 3rd.

QB Dennis Dixon is the key guy to talk about here. In his first 3 years, he threw for 18 TDs and ran for 3. Kelly took over as the OC in his Senior year. They didn’t have a full offseason together because Dixon was playing minor league baseball. Belotti was really upset, but Kelly traveled to watch Dixon play and said nothing but good things. That got their relationship off to a strong start. Dixon was great at QB that year. He got the Ducks off to an 8-1 start. He was Heisman material, having thrown for 20 TDs and run for 9 more. Unfortunately he tore up his knee. He tried to play through it against Arizona, but got hurt even worse and that ended his season and Oregon slumped without him. They did win their bowl game 56-21.

In 2009 Belotti stepped down to become the AD at Oregon. Kelly got his first head coaching job. Here are the numbers.

2009 – 10-3 … Rushing 6th, Passing 98th, Overall 33rd, Scoring 8th
RB LaMichael James 9th in the nation. QB Masoli finished 2nd on the team in rushing.
Losses to Boise St, Stanford, Ohio State. Key wins: Utah, USC.

2010 – 12-1 … Rushing 4th, Passing 39th, Overall 1st, Scoring 1st
RB LaMichael James led the nation. Kenjon Barner 2nd on the team. QB Darron Thomas 3rd (93-486-5).
Lost to Auburn in National Title game. Key wins: Stanford.

2011 – 12-2 … Rushing 5th, Passing 68th, Overall 4th, Scoring 3rd
RBs James, Barner, and Thomas were 1-2-3 in rushing on team. QB only had 56 rushes.
Losses to LSU, USC. Key wins: Stanford, Wisconsin (Rose Bowl).

2012 – 11-1 … Rushing 3, Passing 66th, Overall 4th, Scoring 2nd
Kenjon Barner 5th in the nation in rushing. QB Mariota 2nd on team.
Lost to Stanford. Key wins: Fresno State, Oregon State.

I’ve made mention of where the QB finished in rushing so that you can see this isn’t Cam Newton or Tim Tebow type of football. Those guys carried their offenses on their back. Kelly is a firm believer in feeding the RBs.

Oregon had 4 10-win seasons prior to Kelly taking over. He’s won 10 or more each year. He has the only Rose Bowl in in school history. And he’s done all this without Oregon turning into a recruiting power. Oregon is an A+ program, but it is still in the state of Oregon. Most recruiting powerhouses are in football states (California, Florida, Texas, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Alabama, Georgia). Oregon gets some stars but not nearly the same amount of elite recruits as other schools.

At this point, you should have a pretty good idea of Kelly’s background and track record.

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So the discussion now turns to Kelly and the NFL. Can he succeed in pro football? Yes, absolutely yes. That doesn’t mean he will. We see coaches with great NFL backgrounds who fail. Circumstances are a key factor for every coach.

Most people play the “Steve Spurrier card” in regard to Kelly. Joe College will hit the NFL and make a fool of himself. The situations could not be more different. Kelly is a workaholic. He is incredibly driven and has worked his way up from the bottom. Spurrier was a Heisman Trophy winning QB at Florida. He was arrogant. He believed that he truly was smarter than others and could win in the NFL by doing things his way (work smarter, not harder). In college, Spurrier was always the smartest coach on the field. That wasn’t the case in the NFL and his inability to deal with that fact made him a failure.

Kelly is the guy with the chip on his shoulder. He wasn’t a star player. He didn’t start his coaching career in the SEC and ACC like Spurrier did. Spurrier was the OC at Duke by his 3rd year. Kelly was still a high school coach in his 3rd season of coaching. Kelly will not be out-worked. Spurrier is famous for playing golf in the afternoons. One of the criticisms that Oregon boosters have with Kelly is that he won’t attend their offseason golf outings. He sends his assistants. Spurrier plays during the season on a regular basis.

Kelly won’t come to the NFL thinking he knows more than the other coaches. Kelly has met with NFL staffs over the years. Initially it was to learn. Over time he became the lecturer so that they could learn. He still takes away whatever nuggets of wisdom that he can. Kelly loves learning the game of football and still sees himself as a student of the game.

Can Kelly’s offense work in the NFL? Complex question. The first thing I think you have to understand is that Kelly doesn’t see himself as having just one offense. He’s noted for the spread option, but isn’t married to it. If he was made coach of the Patriots, Kelly would run a passing offense that featured Tom Brady. Kelly has had athletic QBs at UNH and Oregon so he’s run the spread option.

I’m sure he’d love to have an athletic QB like RG3, Russell Wilson, or Colin Kaepernick to run his full playbook, but the key for Kelly is to have a smart QB who is accurate. Jake Locker is a great athlete, but highly inconsistent passer. Tim Tebow is a big, strong guy, but didn’t always make good reads when running the option. Those guys might drive Kelly a bit nuts.

Kelly is all about numbers. If he can make you worry about his passing game and leave fewer guys in the box, he will run. If you stack the box, he will throw. If you load up the outside, he’ll attack the inside. And so on. This isn’t rocket science. Kelly wants to see where you line up your defenders and then he will attack the weak spots. These basic principles already work in the NFL. Watch Brady and Manning at the LOS, looking over the defense. They want to attack the weak spots in the defense.

Kelly isn’t a “plays” guy. Spurrier was. Reid and Mornhinweg definitely are. Kelly will tell you to focus on players, not plays. Think back to the Skins game. The Eagles threw the ball to TE Evan Moore at one of the most critical moments in the game. The design of the play worked. Moore was open. The pass was accurate. Should have been a TD. The problem is that football isn’t chess. You can’t think of the players as pieces who will do as you wish. You must account for the human element. That generally means focusing on your star players. Get them the ball in crunch time. Don’t focus on surprising the other team. Out-execute them.

If he comes to the NFL, Kelly will adapt to the players he has. Over time he’ll shape the roster to be exactly what he wants, but don’t fall into the trap of thinking what you see at Oregon is exactly what you’d see in the pros. Kelly is smart enough to know that you can use multiple QBs in college, but in the NFL you need one star QB and the team is built around him. That means limiting him as a runner.

One of the recent stats that has helped to show Super Bowl teams is sack differential (sacks for vs sacks against). Kelly hates sacks. His philosophy is to blame them on the QB. Always. Kelly thinks the QB should get rid of the ball. 2nd and 10 is better than 2nd and 17, as he loves to point out. Oregon was in the Top 12 in fewest sacks allowed from 2009-2011. This year they are down at 37th. Having a Freshman QB will do that to you. Oregon has rushed the passer well in his time as HC.

Kelly will bring somewhat of a collegiate atmosphere with him. When asked why his WRs at Oregon are such good blockers he said, “We’re not gonna throw to ya if you’re not going to block on the perimeter.” Are you listening, Jeremy Maclin? Some NFL players will be put off by a coach who gets on their case about things like blocking. You can just hear the thoughts going through the player’s head…”Did you draft me to block or catch TDs?” He won’t say it, but you know he’ll think it. Some coaches are able to motivate the NFL players and they have success (see Jimmy Johnson). Greg Schiano brought some of that to Tampa. Other coaches are seen as college guys intruding on life in the NFL and they fail (Lou Holtz most famously).

Players are held to tough standards. Kelly hates underachievers. From a clinic talk he once gave, “If a player is a 5.0 player (40-yard dash speed) and plays at 5.0, that is what we want. Do not be the 4.6 player who plays at 5.2 in games.” In other words, give me the guy I can trust, the reliable player. I don’t want the guy who has potential, but doesn’t play up to it. Kelly preaches about effort. He likes to say that the team who plays hardest the longest generally wins. This is absolutely true in college and high school. The NFL is about execution more than effort, but that’s still a big part of success. You want teams that go hard in practice and in games. The coach sets the tone for this.

In college, practice time is very limited so Kelly came up with some creative ways to do things. He does little to no teaching on the field. That is practice time. Teaching goes on in the classroom. You then put those concepts into action in practice. You sure can’t argue with the results. The scouts and coaches who have watched his practices at UNH and Oregon say they are amazing. Coaches and players fly around the field. There is constant motion. Everything is mapped out to maximize every possible second. If Kelly thinks one drill needs 3 minutes, that’s how long it is. He doesn’t go with some generic guidelines. He literally times out how long each session should last and plans accordingly.

This would have to change somewhat in the NFL. There is substantially more practice time. You’re also not teaching just basic concepts. Things are more complex in the NFL. You need more time to be thorough.

One thing I love about Kelly is that he sees himself as a teacher and understands that the players won’t learn if you don’t explain things the right way. Kelly points out that players today love to know why things are done a certain way. Instead of using the old “because I told you so” line, Kelly teaches his coaches to tell the players why something is done. If you can’t explain why something is done a certain way, maybe it isn’t the right thing to do.

I am not sure how much of Kelly’s style of coaching during games would follow him to the NFL. He loves to go for 2 in college. Oregon starts a lot of games up 8-0. Kelly wants to put the opponent on their heels right away. And he’s not afraid to fail on the attempt because he expects to score plenty of points. Kelly hates to kick FGs. His team has hit 5, 9, 13, and 16 FGs in his time as coach. Remember how bad Penn State’s kicker was early this year and how Bill O’Brien would go for it all the time on 4th down? That PK still hit 14 FGs on the year. That will likely be the lowest total for an O’Brien team and it is close to the most for a Kelly team.

I’m sure Kelly would be more aggressive about going for 2 and going for it on 4th downs than most NFL coaches, but he might dial down what he does at Oregon. Kelly is smart enough to understand there is a big difference in pro and college football. Few college games swing on one play. Generally one team is clearly better than the other. The NFL is a league of parity. Many games have one key moment. There is a fine line between aggressive and reckless.

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The case for the Eagles to go after Chip Kelly: Greatness. Chip Kelly isn’t a coach that is available all the time. He is a winner. He is innovative. He’s also smart enough to know that he doesn’t know everything. He’ll mix his ideas with some conventional NFL wisdom. Jimmy Johnson came to the NFL with no pro experience. He was smart enough to ask questions and learn what he needed. He took his college ideas and mixed them with NFL ideas and built a dynasty. Like Johnson, Kelly is tough on his players. Kelly believes in competition. Either you get the job done or I’ll go to the guy behind you. This worked for Johnson. It is working for Pete Carroll in Seattle.

If Kelly does succeed, he could be a great coach. He’s got the potential to be special. Why not take the chance on greatness? There will always be another hot coordinator next year or the year after. Kelly could be one of those rare coaches that will haunt you if you pass on him.

I think Kelly would fit in well with most of the Eagles personnel. He loves RBs. He’d have a great group to work with. Kelly prefers athletic blockers to massive guys. He likes TEs that can catch the ball. He would find a way to use DeSean Jackson, but it seems Kelly prefers bigger WRs. The one obvious hole is at QB. Kelly could find his own guy, as most coaches prefer to do. Foles might be part of the short term plan, but likely would not be the long term guy. He could be your backup and that would be just fine.

One of the big concerns with Kelly is his lack of NFL experience. How would he put together the right staff? Kelly is more connected than people think. Tony Dungy’s son Eric plays at Oregon. I’m sure Kelly would talk to Tony and seek advice on staff ideas. Kelly is friendly with Belichick. Kelly is friends with Bill O’Brien at Penn State. O’Brien has NFL connections. Kelly could talk to Pete Carroll for ideas. Kelly hasn’t coached in the NFL, but he’s not a complete stranger to the league and coaching circles.

Kelly would be a great change from Andy Reid. Eagles players have gotten used to doing things Andy’s way. Kelly would come at them from a whole different perspective. The roster is young enough that most guys would probably be comfortable with the collegiate feel that Kelly would initially bring. Kelly isn’t afraid to be the bad guy. He suspended LeGarrette Blount for most of his Senior season after Blount threw a punch at a Boise State player. Kelly suspended star CB Cliff Harris (Reuben Frank’s favorite all time Eagle…just ask him!!!) after Harris got in trouble in his final season at Oregon. Kelly will bench those players who aren’t getting the job done. He’s not afraid to play Freshmen. He does what he thinks it will take to win. Simple as that.

Seems to me that after a couple of years of disappointing play, the Eagles could use someone like that.

The case against Chip Kelly: Being a great college coach and a great pro coach are two very different things. Kelly was able to collect good runners, solid blockers, and athletic QBs and move them around to create favorable matchups and deliver explosive offenses. That helped him to win a lot of games, but when facing teams with NFL talent (Stanford this year, LSU in 2011, Auburn in the 2010 title game), Kelly and Oregon came up short. Oregon wasn’t blown out. They weren’t embarrassed. They did lose. His teams were just 1-2 in bowl games. Scoring 55 on Washington State is nice, but that doesn’t mean you’ll win in the NFL.

The Pac-10 (or 12 if you prefer) has not exactly been a juggernaut since 2009. USC wasn’t at an elite level. The Reggie Bush days were in the past. Cal, Oregon State, and the Arizona schools were up and down. Stanford was the one team that rose up. Kelly and Oregon inflicted losses on these teams to keep them down, but you’d be more comfortable if one other program was really pushing them. Oregon has played some good non-conference games. Kelly isn’t afraid of being challenged. Just happens that the conference has been down in recent years.

Kelly has never faced big time pressure. He’s already the best coach in Oregon history. The media out there gets on him at times, but would be nothing like the scrutiny he would face after a big Eagles loss. At Oregon he basically only answers to one person…Phil Knight. And as long as Kelly wins, Knight will only whisper sweet nothings in his ear. In the NFL Kelly would have to deal with an owner, a GM, and million-dollar players. You can’t just get rid of the NFL guys you don’t like.

QB development is a strange subject. Kelly has gotten great production from Ricky Santos. He turned Dennis Dixon into a Heisman candidate. He got Darron Thomas to play at an even higher level than I had realized. This year Freshman Marcus Mariota is having a great year. The problem is that aside from Santos, these guys are playing for a year or two and then something happens. Jeremiah Masoli was suspended and later kicked off the team. Thomas foolishly went pro (which makes you wonder if there was something else going on). Bryan Bennett was projected to be the starter this year, but lost the job to Mariota. While there has been success, none of this really went according to plan. In the NFL you must find a franchise QB and build around him.

You can spin this that Kelly only had one special talent to work with (Dixon) and that was only for a season or you can point out that other coaches found one guy and got him to play at a high level for 3 or 4 years. In the NFL Kelly would have to find his guy and they’d need to stick together. That’s how you win titles.

Kelly could manufacture yards and points in college due to his ability to call plays and find weak spots in the defense, but that’s not good enough in the NFL. You must have the right QB and he must play at a high level. Kelly is very tough on his QBs. He was hard on Santos back at UNH. Kelly is very demanding and that can rub some people the wrong way. Would his personality work in the NFL? That is a huge question and can’t be brushed aside easily. College coaches are dictators. NFL coaches have a lot of power, but have to answer to more people.

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Resources

Great set of links on Kelly, his offense, and his ideas.

Kelly and Urban Meyer video. Don’t worry, no nudity.

Oregon football stats

Smart Football on Chip Kelly’s offense

Age 49

1990 – Columbia (DB/ST)
1991 – Columbia (OLB/SS)
1992 – New Hampshire (RB)
1993 – Johns Hopkins (DC)
1994–1996 – New Hampshire (RB)
1997–1998 – New Hampshire (OL)
1999–2006 – New Hampshire (OC)
2007–2008 – Oregon (OC)
2009–present – Oregon

For fun, I put together the All-Chip Kelly team from his time as HC at Oregon.

QB Marcus Mariota
RB LaMichael James
RB Kenjon Barner
TE Ed Dickson
OL Max Unger
OL Carson York
OL Fenuki Tupou
OL Mark Asper
OL Kyle Long
WR Jeff Maehl
WR Lavasier Tuinei
ATH De’Anthony Thomas (runner/receiver/returner)

DL Dion Jordan
DL Brandon Bair
DL Kenny Rowe
DL Nick Reed
LB Spencer Paysinger
LB Casey Matthews
LB Josh Kaddu
S TJ Ward
S Patrick Chung
CB Walter Thurmond
CB Cliff Harris

Chip is very good with RBs and Safeties. This list isn’t loaded with elite NFL talent the way that Carroll had at USC or Johnson at Miami

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If Chip Kelly did come to the Browns, I like that he has no NFL connections, that way you don't see the old hiring buddies thing that we saw with Holmgren. I still think his assistants should have NFL experience, but I would prefer that Kelly pick his own guys from a crop of current NFL assistants who have experience in the daily grind of the league.

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Chip Kelly would want guys that know and will run the system that he likes and I'm not sure there are a lot of those currently in the NFL that don't already have jobs.... My guess is that he would bring a large percentage of his college staff with him.

I'll add to your concerns:

Kelly's style is run heavy, the NFL is a pass happy league. It's MUCH easier to dominate with the run at the College level than the NFL and Oregon is UP in 8 of 10 games, that won't happen in the NFL. What's Coach Kelly's answer if/when his team is down 2 scores or more? The clock won't stop at every 1st down you know.

I'm very confident Joe Banner has an answer for that

If we really fired Heckert and pretty much throw away our 1st round QB investment to bring in and give power to a first time HC with a funky scheme that has all kinds of transition question marks...oh my. At least we'd be the inventor of the "new wildcat"...it already sounds like a stupid idea just typing it out....it has OUT-smarting written ALL OVER it....Mangini-style

I'm not so sure Banner/Haslam would be up for that.. from their recent spill (presser) they seem like they are building for longevity.. as bad as its reported they want Chip, no way they allow him to pick up assistants w/ no NFL experience.

Banner/Haslam have a short list for the HC spot.. I'm sure they have some people in mind for the OC & DC as well. I wouldn't mind the OC coming from college too, but the position coaches MUST have some experience in the league.

Someone also mentioned that TRich wouldn't be a good fit for Chip, and I disagree.. Put TRich one on one with a defender on the outside and he is going to move the chains all day.

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as bad as its reported they want Chip, no way they allow him to pick up assistants w/ no NFL experience.

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You don't seriously think that a guy that will want player transaction/Draft power will allow Joe Banner to pick his coaching staff, do you?

What color is the sky in your world? LOL

thebigbaddawg....

Oh I know who Kelly is. I live in Kelly/Duck country. The national media can write what they want. I know what I see. I also know how he deals with the local media. Like I said MASSIVE ego.

A rookie head coach and more than likely a rookie OC on the way... I can't believe a billionaire is so stupid. Money can't buy common sense.

So let me see if I understand you.

Haslam who is the son of the guy who built their business because he had minority ownership in the Steelers is somehow knowledgeable about the inner working and nuts and bolts of a NFL team?

Do stock holders know how to run the day to day operations of the companies they hold stock in?

Just because Banner has the authority given to him by Haslam and his financial background with the Eagles that makes him also an authority on what it takes to coach a team? I am sure he was the only person involved in the hire of Andy Reid.
If their relationship was so strong then why is he not being interviewed for the opening her?

After listening to their press conference her is what they said. We want to build through the draft. We are in good shape as far as cap room. their is a strong nucleus of young players.

How did that happen?

Heckert who had built his resume from the ground up made it happen by clearing the dead weight that the previous regime created. Making astute trades in the draft
to gain multiple draft picks and securing young talent through all the draft rounds.

Then when Haslam and Banner came to town he called the moving vans because he knew he was gone.

I guess Heckert is the guy who knows zero.

Me I just read the tea leaves and the fish wrappers. I do not profess to know more than anyone. I have just watched this team since Jim Brown played and Paul Brown was the head coach.

You are certainly entitled to your opinion. But I don't think your proximity makes you factually right.

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I'm not sure why people think our QB's can't run an offense under Chip Kelly.

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Well, I don't know about McCoy or Lewis, but Weeden has already said he probably can't run it.

We threw away that pick when we used it on Weeden in the first place. I would much rather face reality (ie that Weeden sucks) and move on than stick with him just because the former regime used a 1st on him. And remember, Weeden is a product of the former regime.

Well then if Weeden is gone lets start looking at who the next savior will be under Kelly. Gino Smith, Taylor Martinez, EJ Manual? Any other RG3 wish they weres out there?
Dennis Dixon? Ideas?

Or as some suggest keep Weeden. Kelly can change what he's always done on offense to something different that we haven't seen so that Weeden can play in his system. Great.

"I read it before I posted. And to be clear, I said he was hands down the best at GAME DAY COACHING. That's an underrated part of a head coach's job but certainly not the end all be all. "

Watch the Stanford (or Auburn, or OSU) game. Tell me again how great of a game day coach he is. He kept pounding the square peg into the round hole. His system wasn't working as Stanford played disciplined gap assignment. He did nothing to change. NOTHING. How do you think he'll handle the Steeler or Ravens?
But hey he beat Washington State!

Yes, you did say that, apologies. Though, that is where I have to completely disagree with you. He doesn't adjust, which to me means he is not a good gameday coach. Look at his losses, the easiest to find and the best example may just be the OSU Rose Bowl. OSU shut down that offense and he changed nothing. Something like 250 yards of total offense for a team that averaged somewhere near double that. Look at all of their losses and you'll see similar. No adjusting.

Per the coach taking the team to national contention, yes he's kept the team there, but Belotti is the the guy who turned Oregon around into perennial contenders in the Pac10. Chip certainly has done a good job with keeping them there.

Hey, Weeden had a much better ypc than TRich

He also ran for more yds than Brady, Peyton, Eli, Brees or Schaub EVER ran in a single season. Yeah, that's right, lol

Sure, he's a pure pocket QB, but for a rook he had already a pretty advanced pocket presence and picked his spots for the occasional run. He also didn't fumble much for a "statue", but who cares about facts. Let's throw away that 1st rounder already and draft the next prospect QB who won't come even close to Weeden's abilities.

Can't wait to see Chip Kelly running his 2min Offense down 7p or more. He has never even called a game where the clock doesn't stop on every 1st down...you know, that's a pretty big hurdle already for his genius "scheme" lol. Maybe there's a reason stuuf like that gets run more in College than the NFL?

He is not a dunce. These are things that you can easily adjust to.

Besides, can it get any worse than Shurmur?

Atlanta's OC Koetter is going to stay with the Falcons.. so scratch him off the list.

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with him gone.... i'm about 100% sure we get a college coach.

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The Latest Browns’ Coaching & GM Search Rumors From Around The NFL
January 1, 2013 9:59 PM

Here’s the latest news and rumors from around the country on the Browns’ search.

UPDATE 1/2/13 10:41 AM – Michael Lombardi told Baskin & Phelps Wednesday morning on 92.3 The Fan that he has not spoken to the Browns about the vacant personnel opening. Lombardi added that he would listen but he already has a good job with the NFL Network and won’t leave unless it’s the right fit for him. Lombardi also said that any interest in the Browns would be predicated on who the coach ends up being.

UPDATE 1/2/13 10:07 AM: Cross Falcons offensive coordinator Dirk Koetter off the list after he signed a 2-year contract extension to remain with the Falcons. The team announced the move Wednesday morning.

- Adam Caplan of Sirius/XM and PhiladelphiaEagles.com reports that Browns CEO Joe Banner traveled to Arizona Tuesday. Banner and the Browns are among the teams that will interview Cardinals defensive coordinator Ray Horton CBS Sports’ Jason La Canfora reports.

Horton, who remains on staff in Arizona following the firing of head coach Ken Whisenhunt, is also a candidate with the Cardinals as well as the Bills.

Former Eagles coach Andy Reid appears to be the front runner to land the Cardinals job according to multiple reports. There is a possibility that he could reunite with former Browns GM Tom Heckert as well.

- Banner could remain in Arizona so he could also interview Oregon coach Chip Kelly.

Kelly has led the Ducks to their 4th straight BCS bowl game, including the 2011 national championship game, Oregon’s first Rose Bowl win in 95 years last season and Thursday night’s Fiesta Bowl against No. 5 Kansas State.

The Philadelphia Eagles are also interested in Kelly according to multiple reports.

- ESPN’s Adam Schefter reports that the Browns will interview Syracuse head coach Doug Marrone this week.

Marrone, who was an offensive coordinator of the New Orleans Saints, has taken the Orange to 2 bowl games in 4 seasons. Marrone will also interview with the Bills.

- Penn State coach Bill O’Brien definitely fits the description that owner Jimmy Haslam said he’s looking for. O’Brien, who has a buyout of over $9 million in his contract, took over a Penn State team left in turmoil following the Jerry Sandusky child abuse scandal. He led the Nittany Lions to an 8-4 season and was named the Big 10 coach of the year.

Philadelphia, Arizona and San Diego are reportedly interested in O’Brien according to La Canfora.

- One name to cross off the list – Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels.

After a disastrous head coaching debut with the Denver broncos, McDaniels told Boston reporters that he’s not interested in another head coaching job this offseason.

McDaniels had been linked to NFL analyst and former Browns director of player personnel Mike Lombardi. Lombardi remains the popular front runner to come to Cleveland and work with the new Browns’ coach, whomever that will be.

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So is 90% of today's roster...so are Haden, Taylor, Ward, Sheard, Little and TRich, all other top 50 picks of "the former regime"...would you cut ties with them too? your point is again? Oh right, you don't like Weeden, the rook QB with a rating of 79 since week 2. Good luck with your next rookie QB then, and the next one in 2014

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Actually 100% of todays roster is from a former regime. As far as getting rid of guys, you get rid of the ones that have either not produced or do not fit what you plan to do in the future... To say that if somebody wants to cut one guy that they might as well cut them all is just stupid... no, the current regime will have no ties to any of the players you listed but all of the others have either produced or can play in pretty much any system... Weeden can't claim either of those.... and I'm not advocating getting rid of him but if Kelly is your guy, then get him a QB that can run his system and it's not Weeden...

For the record, I'm not all that in favor of Kelly.. seems like a very big gamble to me. There are 10 college coaches I'd take before I'd take him...

I was specifically talking about gameday.

I, or anyone else, have no clue how Chip Kelly will run a NFL and it's roster.

The only way Arians has a shot is if we whiff on about three or four other guys (At least Kelly, O'Brien, and Marrone all seem to be ahead of him).

Could it be that he recruits those type of players and adapts his offense to those types because he was smart enough to know he will not be able to compete with USC,Alabama etc. when it comes to recruiting. It seems like USC is at the top of the recruiting class every year and he has managed to beat them a couple of times. I don't know if he is the right guy or not but I think one of our big problems was coaches that tried to force players to adapt to their strict system/ philosophy. I just want a guy that is smart enough to know that you have to play to the strengths of what you have.

not looking to get into a debate but from that long article it seems to me he tailors his offense to his personal? He can only get those type players you mention so thats the offense he runs.
If he is to be the man I have to at least believe he will run an offense around the talent he is able to get. Who knows maybe with real NFL talent they guy becomes the next Bill Walsh?

I look at it this way, they canned Heckert so why not totally jump into the pool all in so to speak. I guess the biggest question for me is how much actual control he would have over the draft.

I dont see why he couldnt get a system scheme for Weeden to be able to play in if need be. If Weeden is sent packing then so be it. I think he showed some flashes and he does have a big arm but sometimes its the between the ears things that I question.

He is very smart and if he doesnt think he can make the playoffs out the gate with the roster we have I dont think he will sign with us. I've said already in 1 of these theads I expect to make a serious push for the playoffs next year so I dont want a coach the would feel well if only I had...insert whatever excuse.