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Mary Kay's now saying Trestman's in the mix.

Instead of bringing the CFL to Cleveland, maybe we should just move the Browns to the CFL? Things that make you go hmmm....

Either Seahawk Coordinator is looking good too!

Love the O and stoutness of their D all year.

I brought up Darrell Bevell a few days ago. He was an OC under Childress and worked with Favre. Seems like he is able to adapt his offense to his QBs strengths.

I get a very strong feeling that Haslam is going to get the guy he feels comfortable with and Banner is just the guy setting up the interviews. That may not be a bad thing.

According to Jason Cole of Yahoo! Sports, the Browns have included Colts OC Bruce Arians and Montreal Alouettes coach Marc Trestman to their head-coaching search.



http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/253635/report-browns-interested-in-arians-trestman

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Haslam has to make a impact hire now since we lost out on Sabin and Kelly....I think the Jaw would spark the fanbase more than anyone else.

carrot top..lol.

Just dont want to see some panic mode decision!

A great coach is out there whether he's top tier or in the wings.

That's good they are thinking before doing.

J/C

If Trestman turns out to be the guy, maybe Bernie gets a role in the organization. I'm not even saying QB coach or anything like that, but maybe a training camp instructor. Say what you will about Kosar, the man is one of the most intelligent QBs to ever play the game. (I'm talking football intelligence). I'd kind of like to see that.

My #1 is still Wisenhunt with a solid OC and DC to back him up. I think a lot is being made about Warner being on the bench and Leinart starting, but we don't know if that came from upper management or not. When Wisenhunt had a good QB, his offenses flourished (Roethlisberger/Warner).

I cant...just not feeling it.

I agree. I like Trestman. I'd like to see more of him.

Bernie shouldn't have any role within the organization until he gets some help for his addiction issues.

Regarding the coaching search, just another article...
UPDATED JAN 6, 2013 6:05 PM ET

CLEVELAND (AP)
Chip Kelly won't be packing his visor or high-powered offense and joining the Browns.


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A person familiar with Cleveland's coaching search says the team will not be hiring Oregon's offensive wizard, who nearly reached an agreement with the Browns on Friday. However, the 49-year-old Kelly was indecisive about making the jump to the NFL and the Browns decided to move on to other candidates.

The person spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity Sunday because of the sensitivity of the search.

The Browns questioned whether Kelly ''was committed to coming to the NFL,'' said the person, and the team decided to continue the search for their sixth fulltime coach since 1999.

Kelly, who turned down Tampa Bay's job deep into negotiations last season, may stay in the college game and return to Oregon, where he has built the Ducks into a national power. Oregon has gone 46-7 the past four seasons under Kelly and made four straight appearances in BCS bowl games.

After Kelly met with the Browns for seven hours Friday, it appeared he was headed to Cleveland. The Philadelphia Eagles even decided to leave Arizona after they were informed a deal between the Browns and Kelly was imminent. However, Kelly wanted to keep a scheduled interview with the Eagles and the team returned and reportedly spent nine hours with him on Saturday.

Kelly also met with the Buffalo Bills, but that was nothing more than a cursory interview for both sides.

The pursuit of Kelly created an interesting subplot between the Browns and Eagles. Cleveland CEO Joe Banner spent 19 seasons in Philadelphia before leaving the team last year amid a power struggle. Banner is longtime friends with Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie, and the two of them potentially squaring off in a bidding war for Kelly was straight out of a screenplay.

It's not known what kind of offer the Browns made for Kelly, who earned a base salary of $2.8 million last season at Oregon and still has five years left on his contract.


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Meanwhile, the Eagles confirmed they had scheduled an interview with Broncos offensive coordinator Mike McCoy on Sunday.

Kelly's high-octane, hurry-up offense has raised his profile and made the Ducks, with their splashy array of colorful Nike uniforms, more than a curiosity. Several NFL teams, including the New England Patriots and Washington Redskins, are using elements of Kelly's schemes in their offenses.

With Kelly no longer in the picture, the Browns will turn their attention to other candidates.

Owner Jimmy Haslam and Banner spent most of the past week in Arizona, where Kelly was coaching Oregon in the Fiesta Bowl. While waiting to meet with Kelly, the Browns interviewed former Arizona coach Ken Whisenhunt, Cardinals defensive coordinator Ray Horton, Syracuse's Doug Marrone and Penn State's Bill O'Brien.

Marrone accepted Buffalo's coaching vacancy on Sunday, and O'Brien decided to stay with the Nittany Lions. The interview of Horton satisfies the NFL's Rooney Rule for minority candidates.



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A former NFL player, Whisenhunt, who led the Cardinals to a Super Bowl, spent one season as a special teams coordinator with Cleveland. He also served as Pittsburgh's offensive coordinator from 2004-06, and that connection could serve him well with Haslam, who had a minority share in the Steelers before he bought the Browns from Randy Lerner for just over $1 billion.

Haslam and Banner fired Pat Shurmur last week, one day after the Browns finished a 5-11 season with a loss in Pittsburgh. Shurmur went 9-23 in two seasons for the Browns, who have lost at least 11 games in each of the past five seasons.

Before embarking with Banner on the coaching search, Haslam said there was no set time frame on finding a coach and he would wait has long as necessary to ''bring the right person to Cleveland.''

''Our goal is to get the best person and if we happen to find that person within a week, that's great and if it takes a month, that's great also,'' Haslam said. ''Sooner is preferable, but whatever timetable it takes to get the right person, we're going to take.''

Haslam and Banner are focused on hiring a coach first before turning their attention to a personnel executive. Tom Heckert, who overhauled Cleveland's roster in the past three years, was also fired last week. It's not known if the Browns have interviewed any GM candidates.

Ugh. No Marc Trestman please. He's been out of the NFL since 2004. He couldn't hold an NFL job for more than 2 years anywhere before he got tossed overboard.

Bleh.

Again, I'm pleased we made a choice to move on. Dont coddle and beg or throw mega bucks at this guy. Kick his arse to the curb if he isnt commited to Cleveland!

Good job Jimmy!

I would love to see Trestman back here as HC. Dude is a nerd but the nerd knows football. Hell ask Bernie how he got so damn smart about the game. The football version of Steve Erkel. lol

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Toad, I remember a month or so ago it was reported that Bernie was "drunk" on a radio show, but I didn't know anything about addiction. If that's the case, I totally agree with you.

Y-town, I was sour on Trestman when he was here, but I think he really improved as a coach/coordinator in his later stints. I guess it's similar to your thoughts on Arians. I'm cold on him, but admit he has improved.

I think when it's all said and done, it's going to be Wisenhunt. Hopefully he brings Grimm as his OL coach.

J/C...

for what it's worth.. There is an " H " in Whisenhut.. just saying.

I'll take note of that when I spell it. You sure I'm the culprit?

Dude produced everywhere he has been and is a hell of a coach.

Cleveland Browns better off without Chip Kelly: Terry Pluto
Terry Pluto, The Plain Dealer By Terry Pluto, The Plain Dealer
on January 06, 2013 at 6:26 PM, updated January 06, 2013 at 6:43 PM


CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Maybe Chip Kelly and the Browns would have worked.

Maybe the Oregon coach could have ripped up the roster and put together a new one quickly to fit his system.

Maybe Kelly is The Next Great Thing.

Zachary Thornton emailed me: "I'm consistently amazed at how (little) NFL coaches understand about statistics and probability. ... There are so many decisions made in the NFL because "that's the way it's always been done." There is a new era of football coming to the NFL, and Chip Kelly's brand is what it's going to be."

Maybe ... but I doubt it.

Obviously, new Browns owner Jimmy Haslam and CEO Joe Banner were enamored with Kelly, or they would not have spent so much time courting him.

But rather than feeling rejected because Kelly wasn't sold on the Browns and the talks fell apart for whatever reason, I'm relieved.

Yes, the Browns missed Kelly, their No. 1 target.

Yes, they were intrigued by Doug Marrone (the new Bills coach) and Bill O'Brien (stayed at Penn State), but those two are no longer on the market.

Yes, they may make one more run at Nick Saban, but he appears to be staying at Alabama.

But I'm not upset by any of this.

I don't want a coach who will re-invent the game, a coach such as Kelly with no pro experience.

Nor do I want a coach who has power over the college draft -- and that's why the Browns maybe should reverse their field and hire a general manager first.

As for a coach ... when I mentioned names such as Ken Whisenhunt, Bruce Arians and Lovie Smith -- many fans moan.

Whisenhunt (Arizona) and Smith (Chicago) were recently fired. Arians is 60 years old and has been a career assistant before being an interim coach with the Colts this season.

If they want to try something different, how about Brad Seely? The veteran special teams coach (now with San Francisco) has a knack of organization and success. John Harbaugh was a veteran special teams coach when hired by Baltimore in 2008.

Being fired should not be a disqualification for the next job.

So how about these names: Mike Shanahan and John Fox?

Both have hot quarterbacks and hot teams. Both were fired and considered retreads when hired by their respective teams.

I've been receiving emails about how Whisenhunt hasn't done much since Kurt Warner retired ... well, is that a surprise?

No quarterback and you go nowhere in the NFL.

Green Bay's Mike McCarthy and Houston's Gary Kubiak were both veteran assistants before receiving a chance to run their own teams. The Browns interviewed Kubiak at least once (1999) and passed.

Now, they are very successful coaches.

Browns fans know Bill Belichick was fired in Cleveland, went back to being a defensive coordinator with the Jets before hooking up with Tom Brady and becoming a legend in New England. Belichick's record in games not started by Brady is 53-53.

Pete Carroll was the head coach of the Jets and New England before going to USC, then leaving for Seattle.

The Harbaugh brothers (Jim and John) both had extensive pro backgrounds as players or assistant coaches before becoming head coaches.

I throw out all those names because I doubt any -- except perhaps Shanahan and Carroll -- created a real buzz when they were hired. All have their teams in the playoffs.

These days, you hear the phrase "winning the press conference."

Perhaps Kelly would have done that for the Browns, assuming he talked up his electric offense and seemed really excited about coaching the orange helmets. Mike Holmgren "won" his early press conferences, too.

But the bottom line is winning games, and I had serious doubts Kelly could have done that here. web page

Even pluto like Seely!

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Toad, I remember a month or so ago it was reported that Bernie was "drunk" on a radio show, but I didn't know anything about addiction. If that's the case, I totally agree with you.

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You can find the interview, man. It's bad. Very bad. Very obvious. His ex-wife made references about addiction problems, and there have been other off-the-record discussions.

Bernie has a brilliant mind, but IMHO he's not stable enough to have a permanent position with an organization until those issues are resolves.

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Even pluto like Seely!

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I've backed you on that, I like it a lot.

1981–84 University of Miami (VC/QB)
1985–86 Minnesota Vikings (RB)
1987 Tampa Bay Buccaneers (QB)
1988/1989 Cleveland Browns (QB/OC)
1990–91 Minnesota Vikings (QB)
1995–96 San Francisco 49ers (OC & QB)
1997 Detroit Lions (QB)
1998-00 Arizona Cardinals (OC & QB)
2001-2003 Oakland Raiders (QB/OC)
2004 Miami Dolphins (QB/AHC)
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His 1981 Vikings saw Wade Wilson throw 14 TD and 13 INT

His 1987 Bucs saw Steve Deberg throw for 1891 yards 14 TD and 6 INT ..... and Vinnie throw for crap.

The 1988/1989 In 1988, the Browns threw 19 TD and 17 INT. They ran for a 3.6 yards/carry average. In 1989, Browns threw for 20 TD and 15 INT. They ran for a 3.6 yards/carry average.

By comparison, the year before Trestman arrived, Kosar threw for 22 TD and 9 INT. They averaged 3.7 yards/carry.

The 1990 Vikings threw 25 TD and 24 INT.

In 1991, they threw for 16 TD and 16 INT.

He then sat out until 1995 because he had a reputation of being hard to work with and not all that competent.

He returned to the 49'ers. Look at how badly Steve Young declined while Trestman was there.

1997, Detroit Lions, QB Coach, 19 TD 17 INT.

1998-2000 Cardinals. Jake Plummer. Awful. Look at how Plummer improved when Trestman left.

I'm gonna stop there ...... but, to me, Trestman has been a so-so to awful coach. I want nothing to do with him.

The PD reporters, all of them on their online show, seem to thik that you cannot pry Kyle Shanahan out of DC.

Didnt poppa shanny said he was staying?

Not that he has to listen to dad but I bet it weighs heavy in a choice.

I personally wouldn't rank Trestman in my top-75 candidates, hehe. The guy couldn't get a job in the NFL or college, so he took his talents to Canada...willingly?

His record is spotty. I'm sure he knows football, but I don't know how he could earn the respect of the players and fans.

He had his day and his shot. His window has closed IMHO.