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Trestman might be a good fit as HC off our young team for several reasons.
...he is an offensive minded coach.
...he has a connection to the Browns dating back to his first coaching job at Miami University where he was Bernie Kosar's QB coach in 1983 and 1984.
...another connection to the Browns was established in 1988 when Trestman coached Kosar and in 1989 Trestman was the OC when the Browns went to AFC Championship game.
...19 yrs of NFL experience as QB coach and Offensive Coordinator
... a Head Coach with the Montreal Alouettes since 2008..59 wins 31 losses...in the playoffs 5 yrs with 3 Grey Cup appearances (2 w- 1 l)
...worked with Weeden last year, preparing him for the draft.
...56 yrs old
It might be difficult to find someone better qualified to step into a head coaching job in the NFL than Trestman...19 yrs NFL experience as QB coach/OC...followed by 5 yrs as a very successful HC in the CFL.
I know nothing about the man's personality or his ability to judge talent, but as an offensive minded coach, he appears to be well qualified and might be a good fit, helping to develop Weeden and the Browns offense.
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We just had a WCO head coach. Do we want another one? (Trestman)
What if you got the next Bill Walsh. Would you say that's a bad thing. You got this hang up on Trestman. he's a solid guy, good coach.
Will he get the job, hell if I know, but I think he deserves a look..
It almost sounds as if you would rather just burn him at the stake.
By the way, Marv Levy was a CFL Coach before taking the Bills to the superbowl 4 times, Bud Grant was an outstanding CFL Coach before becoming the HC of the Vikings taking them to several superbowls as well.
the bad mark on both of them is, neither of them won a superbowl.. But they got there..
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My concern is not so much that he has been in the CFL but that he is a WCO guy. Is that the best fit for our current roster? Maybe it is, I am not well-versed enough to make that call.
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I agree Mac. I don't see anything that turns me off.
Only time will tell if he can do the job or not, or get it, but in this interview process I see every reason to at minimum talk to the guy.
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My concern is not so much that he has been in the CFL but that he is a WCO guy. Is that the best fit for our current roster? Maybe it is, I am not well-versed enough to make that call.
Well... Shurmur's offense was a version of the WCO and, in theory at least, that was the kind of offense we were building our roster around. In that sense, a WCO guy would make sense if he had the other important qualities you look for in a HC (strong leadership, organizational skills, etc...).
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But Bengals defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer’s now on the list in Cleveland, as FOX’s Jay Glazer reports the Browns are bringing Zimmer in today for an interview.
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But Bengals defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer’s now on the list in Cleveland, as FOX’s Jay Glazer reports the Browns are bringing Zimmer in today for an interview.
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Just read that. We're the first team to contact him this offseason.
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Just read that. We're the first team to contact him this offseason.
don't let him leave Berea
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Of all the guys mentioned so far, I think Zimmer might be the guy I would want the most (besides Chip Kelly anyway). His players love him and his defenses have a pretty good track record.
He's also shown the ability to run multiple defenses and has worked for a variety of people in his career. He ran a 4-3 his entire career, then Parcells went to Dallas and he switched to the 3-4 and had the #1 defense.
He is a little bit older, 57, but a this point we just have to get the right guy.
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Yes, please.
Fantastic coordinator, fiery, won't let guys quit, has taken morons and turned them into productive NFL players...
you had a good run Hank.
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So let's get this right, so far we have interviewed:
Bill O'Brien (Stayed at Penn State)
Doug Marrone (Hired by Buffalo)
Chip Kelly (Stayed at Oregon)
Ken Whisenhunt (still available)
Ray Horton (currently still Arizona's defensive coordinator)
Marc Trestman (currently still the coach of the Montreal Alouettes)
Mike Zimmer is interviewing today and Bruce Arians sometime in the future.
Am I missing anyone?
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Chudzinski is in Berea today.
you had a good run Hank.
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I like Zimmer, but he's 57yo and has NEVER been a HC at ANY level he coached at.
He's a very good DC and we'd need a strong OC who probably has to run his own Offense if he gets hired.
At least Zimmer runs the same style of D Jauron runs....in fact I think he's a carbon copy of Jauron, so to me that has the makings of a useless lateral move losing (most probably) our DC in the process but I'd be cool with him if we somehow get Whisenhunt for OC
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He is a little bit older, 57, but a this point we just have to get the right guy.
Doesn't bother me at all. If we can get 7 to 8 good years out of coach I will be so happy then turn the team over to a coach in good shape as opposed to turning over a 3-5 win team...
Sure I'd love to have a guy be here for 15 years, but really, how often does that happen?
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Chudzinski is in Berea today.
LOVE IT. I loved Chud as our OC. The guy is a mad scientist. Is he ready to make the leap to HC? Dunno but wow....this potential has me excited.
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but I'd be cool with him if we somehow get Whisenhunt for OC
I was thinking the same thing. We'd have to get a strong OC if we hire Zimmer. One with head coaching experience would preferable (I hear Pat Shurmur and Mike Holmgren are available).
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in fact I think he's a carbon copy of Jauron, so to me that has the makings of a useless lateral move losing (most probably) our DC in the process
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I like Zimmer, but he's 57yo and has NEVER been a HC at ANY level he coached at.
Many guys have never been head coaches. Zimmer is a guy whose name comes up every year and he never gets hired. Maybe we are the team that finally gives him a shot.
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He is a little bit older, 57, but a this point we just have to get the right guy.
Doesn't bother me at all. If we can get 7 to 8 good years out of coach I will be so happy then turn the team over to a coach in good shape as opposed to turning over a 3-5 win team...
Sure I'd love to have a guy be here for 15 years, but really, how often does that happen?
When was the last time a HC retired due to age?
Don't most do it for the love of the game, and would do so well past typical retirement age health and owner willing?
I mean Paterno I think started coaching Roman Gladiators and never stopped until his final days.
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I agree that most don't retire due to age, but I think most people would agree that you can't work as hard at age 65 as you can at age 45.
Paterno stayed around well past the point of usefullness.
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Referencing this will NEVER get old with me. 
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CLEVELAND -- The Browns are interviewing former Browns and current Panthers offensive coordinator Rob Chudzinski today in Berea, a league source told the Plain Dealer.
Chudzinski, a Toledo native and lifelong Browns fan, served as tight ends coach of the Browns in 2004 and then spent two seasons as the Chargers' tight ends coach after coach Butch Davis was fired after the 2004 season.
Chudzinski, 44, returned in 2007 as offensive coordinator of the Browns and helped lead the team to a 10-6 record under Romeo Crennel. That year, the Browns ranked eighth overall in offense and sent four players to the Pro Bowl.
But Crennel was fired after the 2008 season, and "Chud'' was lost in the purge for the second time. He returned to San Diego as tight ends coach/assistant head coach.
Last season, Chudzinski was named Panthers offensive coordinator, and with Cam Newton at quarterback, Chud turned one of the league's worst offenses in 2010 into the No. 5 ranked scoring team in the league in 2011. The Panthers finished 12th in offense this season.
In 2001, he helped the Miami Hurricanes win the national championship as their offensive coordinator. He also played tight end there.
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My concern is not so much that he has been in the CFL but that he is a WCO guy. Is that the best fit for our current roster? Maybe it is, I am not well-versed enough to make that call.
I have no problem with WCO.. If coached and executed properly it's as effective as anything out there.
We have a problem however, we had a coach that knew the WCO but apparently couldn't teach it,, or we have a QB that didn't or couldn't get it.
Nothing wrong with the WCO however. Maybe a guy like Trestman whos known for getting the most out of a QB will be able to solve the problem with Weeden or someone else.
Just an out of the box thought.
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Chudzinksi is an interesting guy. He has shown the ability to adapt his offense to his personnel and is young. He has also been around the league for awhile so he should know his stuff. Whether he has the leadership qualities Haslam and Banner are looking for is up to them.
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When was the last time a HC retired due to age?
How many coaches have won a Superbowl after they turned 60?
answer: 2 - Vermeil @63 w/ St.L & Ewbank @61 w/ NYJ
only 2 more older than 55: Walsh and Switzer
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Add Coughlin to that list two times.
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whoops. thought Coughlin was 56 not 66 for some reason. thank you.
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Chudzinksi is an interesting guy. He has shown the ability to adapt his offense to his personnel and is young. He has also been around the league for awhile so he should know his stuff. Whether he has the leadership qualities Haslam and Banner are looking for is up to them.
I don't know why, but he's always a guy that I forget about. yeah,, I'd think he deserves a look as well.
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I might be all in on Chudzinski. Anyone who can look Derek Anderson look competent is fine by me.
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I might be all in on Chudzinski. Anyone who can look Derek Anderson look competent is fine by me.
if Weeden is a slightly better Derek Anderson and Gordon is a more sure-handed Edwards with Richardson having alot more tread left than Jamal Lewis, then lookout!
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I must admit, for me, I forgot about Chud and now he is at the top of my list. I just don't like the fact that so many reports say Trestman is just too nice however he has actually won me over and is probably my #2.
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When was the last time a HC retired due to age?
How many coaches have won a Superbowl after they turned 60?
answer: 2 - Vermeil @63 w/ St.L & Ewbank @61 w/ NYJ
only 2 more older than 55: Walsh and Switzer
Got it, so a coach over 60 depletes your chances of winning a superbowl.
Since the average age of a superbowl wining coach is 48, we should be interviewing only 48 years old coaches. (maybe 47 to give them a year to build  )
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Chudzinksi is an interesting guy. He has shown the ability to adapt his offense to his personnel and is young. He has also been around the league for awhile so he should know his stuff. Whether he has the leadership qualities Haslam and Banner are looking for is up to them.
NFL.com is saying Chud is going to interview with Cleveland.. it's on their website and so is Zimmer from Cinci.
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As of right now, these 5 HC's are on my board for consideration:
Marc Trestman
Ken Whisenhunt
Lovie Smith
Jay Gruden
Mike Zimmer
But to rank them 1-5 I can't do. Up in the air.
Why Trestman? just because he is being interviewed by Chicago and us? Did you even know anything about him before yesterday?
Don't push me. I didn't push you. Just saying.
I wouldn't be surprised if most of us aren't happy with whoever we choose to be our HC anyway. A ton of uptight vibes in this place. And Whisenhunt just got hired? By who? Just the other day he was on the market. Now he's been scooped up? No way I can ever be fast with these things.
When I have time, I will go over why I'd consider the names on my (probably soon to be changed) board.
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Chudzinksi is an interesting guy. He has shown the ability to adapt his offense to his personnel and is young. He has also been around the league for awhile so he should know his stuff. Whether he has the leadership qualities Haslam and Banner are looking for is up to them.
Ditto.
I like him a lot as well, but had all but forgot about him. He definitely had an impressive offensive mind. I don't know if he can handle being "the guy" as head coach ...... but his offensive credentials are impressive.
I would put him up there with Arians on my list. He could be a solid choice.
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Not a big Chud fan. However, Mike Zimmer seems like the kind of leader JimmyJoe have talked about. He'd be an intriguing choice, IMO. Pair him with a good OC and we might have something there.
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Chudz would be a great fit for Weeden and would cover up J&J's Kelly blunder a bit as he'd make a nice nfl.com story being a lifelong Brownsfan.
It'd be a risky move though, but one I could get behind on
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