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All I know is my contact out in Berea is gone now ( Drat , double drat ) He had Nothing nice ti say about Banner .. Basically , what you see and what you have heard , is what you got !
Sorry about your contact, but people who don't fit usually don't say great things about the new people.....and that's not saying your friend isn't good at what they do.
To me, if what we hear and see is what we get, that's a positive.
We may not end up liking the results, but at least we know from your contact we aren't getting smoke and mirrors with every other word.
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I concur. I think it's safe to say that most people who just got fired won't have nice things to say about the person who fired them.
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Honestly, I believe the entire coaching staff knew they were history once Haslam named Banner as the man running the team.
Dick knew he was gone, and many of the others did as well, but a few others thought they may still be around next year.
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After a couple of discussions I got the feeling that Haslam's big good old boy / A type personality is going to be really needed to off set what ( admittedly small dose ) I picked up on Banner at this point .. Back to the drawing broad for inside info 
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You will not need an inside source with Banner and Lombardi. Both share the same alias "Unnamed Source".
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:rofl .. I liked the Idea of Haslam ( really do ) , all in on Chud/Horton/ Norv , and that's a first for me in a long , long time .. The other two sh-mos just rattle my cage .. 
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:rofl .. I liked the Idea of Haslam ( really do ) , all in on Chud/Horton/ Norv , and that's a first for me in a long , long time .. The other two sh-mos just rattle my cage ..
I don't think you are alone in those feelings. Banner makes me nervous and I'm just dumbfounded by the hiring of Lombardi.
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:rofl .. I liked the Idea of Haslam ( really do ) , all in on Chud/Horton/ Norv , and that's a first for me in a long , long time .. The other two sh-mos just rattle my cage ..
I don't think you are alone in those feelings. Banner makes me nervous and I'm just dumbfounded by the hiring of Lombardi.
And I trust that if it is even half as bad as some of you fear, Haslam will make corrections. He hasn't done anything to make me think he isn't going to ask questions if this turns for the worse or stays stuck in the mud.
I see checks and balances in this deal. Say our scouting department sets up the board, then Banner starts making final calls on guys not on or way down the list and they dud out. How long do you think Haslam is going to put up with that? We can say it takes 3 years to grade a draft, but anybody can see if a top pick is clearly not a top pick pretty early in the process with maybe the exception of QB.
Now, say Lombardi sets up a board full of guys nobody has heard of or way out of place compared to any of a 100 sites that rank players. Haslam is a big enough college football fan that he knows who are good players and who aren't. ( I am talking about 1st and 2nd round names. Not some small school guard projected for the late 4th round) He has a clue at least, unlike Randy who never watched a college football game in his life. If the list Lombardi puts together is way out of line, Haslam is going to think he has the greatest mind in the world who sees things nobody else sees and everyone else is stupid, or he is going to raise a eyebrow and think something else.
I think I know what Haslam will think. I think Haslam is going to have more say over things than some think.
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Serious question. You are from Tennessee, right? What kind governor is Haslam's brother? Good or bad?
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:rofl .. I liked the Idea of Haslam ( really do ) , all in on Chud/Horton/ Norv , and that's a first for me in a long , long time .. The other two sh-mos just rattle my cage ..
I don't think you are alone in those feelings. Banner makes me nervous and I'm just dumbfounded by the hiring of Lombardi.
And I trust that if it is even half as bad as some of you fear, Haslam will make corrections. He hasn't done anything to make me think he isn't going to ask questions if this turns for the worse or stays stuck in the mud.
I see checks and balances in this deal. Say our scouting department sets up the board, then Banner starts making final calls on guys not on or way down the list and they dud out. How long do you think Haslam is going to put up with that? We can say it takes 3 years to grade a draft, but anybody can see if a top pick is clearly not a top pick pretty early in the process with maybe the exception of QB.
Now, say Lombardi sets up a board full of guys nobody has heard of or way out of place compared to any of a 100 sites that rank players. Haslam is a big enough college football fan that he knows who are good players and who aren't. ( I am talking about 1st and 2nd round names. Not some small school guard projected for the late 4th round) He has a clue at least, unlike Randy who never watched a college football game in his life. If the list Lombardi puts together is way out of line, Haslam is going to think he has the greatest mind in the world who sees things nobody else sees and everyone else is stupid, or he is going to raise a eyebrow and think something else.
I think I know what Haslam will think. I think Haslam is going to have more say over things than some think.
You are talking about accountability being demanded from a man that is a proven business winner. Who has proven over and over again that he's more than capable of looking at a business, learning every facet and being able to run it.
Yes, that man will see when something looks odd and he'll ask questions, demand answers and he'll soon learn to know when he's getting BSed. And that will be the end of the BSer..
The thought you brought up about him being a college football fan is probably a good point, but it only goes so far. Knowing a good player in college and then being able to know how those skills will translate to the NFL,,,,,, two different things..
Pro scouts and GM's are supposed to have that ability, College Football fans,, ehhh, not so much.
But I guess overall I agree with you. I have good feelings about Haslem and think he's capable of sorting out the fact from the fiction.
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So far, so good. He is making good choices and decisions.
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:rofl .. I liked the Idea of Haslam ( really do ) , all in on Chud/Horton/ Norv , and that's a first for me in a long , long time .. The other two sh-mos just rattle my cage ..
I don't think you are alone in those feelings. Banner makes me nervous and I'm just dumbfounded by the hiring of Lombardi.
And I trust that if it is even half as bad as some of you fear, Haslam will make corrections. He hasn't done anything to make me think he isn't going to ask questions if this turns for the worse or stays stuck in the mud.
I see checks and balances in this deal. Say our scouting department sets up the board, then Banner starts making final calls on guys not on or way down the list and they dud out. How long do you think Haslam is going to put up with that? We can say it takes 3 years to grade a draft, but anybody can see if a top pick is clearly not a top pick pretty early in the process with maybe the exception of QB.
Now, say Lombardi sets up a board full of guys nobody has heard of or way out of place compared to any of a 100 sites that rank players. Haslam is a big enough college football fan that he knows who are good players and who aren't. ( I am talking about 1st and 2nd round names. Not some small school guard projected for the late 4th round) He has a clue at least, unlike Randy who never watched a college football game in his life. If the list Lombardi puts together is way out of line, Haslam is going to think he has the greatest mind in the world who sees things nobody else sees and everyone else is stupid, or he is going to raise a eyebrow and think something else.
I think I know what Haslam will think. I think Haslam is going to have more say over things than some think.
You are talking about accountability being demanded from a man that is a proven business winner. Who has proven over and over again that he's more than capable of looking at a business, learning every facet and being able to run it.
Yes, that man will see when something looks odd and he'll ask questions, demand answers and he'll soon learn to know when he's getting BSed. And that will be the end of the BSer..
The thought you brought up about him being a college football fan is probably a good point, but it only goes so far. Knowing a good player in college and then being able to know how those skills will translate to the NFL,,,,,, two different things..
Pro scouts and GM's are supposed to have that ability, College Football fans,, ehhh, not so much.
But I guess overall I agree with you. I have good feelings about Haslem and think he's capable of sorting out the fact from the fiction.
No doubt. I am not saying I want him sitting there like Jerry Jones making all the calls. All I am saying is he knows enough about the game that if Lombardi or whoever starts pulling names out of the hat, at least with the first 2-3-4 picks, he's going to know enough to ask a question or two. Unlike Randy, he is going to be there.
IMO, at least Haslam is going to ask some pointed questions....like...."Why do you like him and few others do?"....we may go with the suggested player, but if he doesn't work out, it's where I am confident adjustments will be made.
Jimmy didn't turn his dads gas station operation, be it a big one, in to the nations largest truck stop destination without demanding excellence and results. He is a white collar guy with a blue collar heart....he knows what's going on.
It didn't take him long to see Homie's services or presence wasn't needed any longer.
Jimmy can be BS'd, all of us can. He can't be for long. The record shows that.
It's looking good.
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:rofl .. I liked the Idea of Haslam ( really do ) , all in on Chud/Horton/ Norv , and that's a first for me in a long , long time .. The other two sh-mos just rattle my cage ..
I don't think you are alone in those feelings. Banner makes me nervous and I'm just dumbfounded by the hiring of Lombardi.
And I trust that if it is even half as bad as some of you fear, Haslam will make corrections. He hasn't done anything to make me think he isn't going to ask questions if this turns for the worse or stays stuck in the mud.
I see checks and balances in this deal. Say our scouting department sets up the board, then Banner starts making final calls on guys not on or way down the list and they dud out. How long do you think Haslam is going to put up with that? We can say it takes 3 years to grade a draft, but anybody can see if a top pick is clearly not a top pick pretty early in the process with maybe the exception of QB.
Now, say Lombardi sets up a board full of guys nobody has heard of or way out of place compared to any of a 100 sites that rank players. Haslam is a big enough college football fan that he knows who are good players and who aren't. ( I am talking about 1st and 2nd round names. Not some small school guard projected for the late 4th round) He has a clue at least, unlike Randy who never watched a college football game in his life. If the list Lombardi puts together is way out of line, Haslam is going to think he has the greatest mind in the world who sees things nobody else sees and everyone else is stupid, or he is going to raise a eyebrow and think something else.
I think I know what Haslam will think. I think Haslam is going to have more say over things than some think.
You are talking about accountability being demanded from a man that is a proven business winner. Who has proven over and over again that he's more than capable of looking at a business, learning every facet and being able to run it.
Yes, that man will see when something looks odd and he'll ask questions, demand answers and he'll soon learn to know when he's getting BSed. And that will be the end of the BSer..
The thought you brought up about him being a college football fan is probably a good point, but it only goes so far. Knowing a good player in college and then being able to know how those skills will translate to the NFL,,,,,, two different things..
Pro scouts and GM's are supposed to have that ability, College Football fans,, ehhh, not so much.
But I guess overall I agree with you. I have good feelings about Haslem and think he's capable of sorting out the fact from the fiction.
No doubt. I am not saying I want him sitting there like Jerry Jones making all the calls. All I am saying is he knows enough about the game that if Lombardi or whoever starts pulling names out of the hat, at least with the first 2-3-4 picks, he's going to know enough to ask a question or two. Unlike Randy, he is going to be there.
IMO, at least Haslam is going to ask some pointed questions....like...."Why do you like him and few others do?"....we may go with the suggested player, but if he doesn't work out, it's where I am confident adjustments will be made.
Jimmy didn't turn his dads gas station operation, be it a big one, in to the nations largest truck stop destination without demanding excellence and results. He is a white collar guy with a blue collar heart....he knows what's going on.
It didn't take him long to see Homie's services or presence wasn't needed any longer.
Jimmy can be BS'd, all of us can. He can't be for long. The record shows that.
It's looking good.
I think you and I (perhaps for the first time, could it be an age thing?) are completely on the same page.
My crystal ball is broken so I can't see the future with any degree of assured accuracy. But I can suggest based on Haslems success in business, that he can learn to ask the right questions. I don't expect him to get everything right.. hell, that would be insane (although, there are those on here that will expect him too)
What I do expect is for him to ask pointed questions. ie: Lombardi, you want to trade our third round pick and rubin for Alex Smith, why? What's that do to our D, what's that do for us on O, how do we compensate for the loss of a proven talent for one that has been mid level talent over his career thus far. Does he have the arm to run Turners offense (and he'll ask turner that question, as well as chud)
Lombardi may put a little wool over his eyes on some minor stuff, but he will not pull the whole damn sheep over his eyes.
I still say this, from the Presser in which Lombardi was introduced, I don't believe that Haslam was "all in" on him. I think he gave "his" hand picked President (banner) a free ride on that one to get the guy he wanted. Now that's not scientific at all, it's just my thoughts on the subject. (personal opinion from watching haslem at the presser,, nothing else to it but that)
Haslam isn't Lerner. Lerner appeared disinterested. detached. that didn't mean he didn't want to win, that didn't mean he didn't open the wallet to get whatever his hand picked leaders told him they needed. Randy did what he thought was right. I think he tried, but he was not equipped to run a franchise. That doesn't make him a bad guy, just a bad owner who couldn't pick his field generals.
Haslem doesn't seem to have that problem.
There is an old saying in business, hire slow, fire fast. take your time picking your guys, give them what they need to do the job, step back and let them work, but watch.
Whats that other old saying, trust but verify.
Haslem will trust, but he'll verify
That's JMO of the man.
I think we're in good hands..
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Cleveland Browns hire former Panthers running backs coach John Settle | cleveland.com http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ss...t_river_defaultCLEVELAND, Ohio - The Browns have hired former Panthers running backs coach John Settle to coach the backs here, a source confirmed for the Plain Dealer. Settle's hiring was first reported by footballscoop.com. Settle, who began his professional coaching career with the Browns in 1995, spent the past two seasons with the Panthers, where he worked under then coordinator and current Browns coach Rob Chudzinski. He replaces Gary Brown, who had been with the Browns for four seasons. Settle worked in several capacities with the Browns in 1995 and then moved with the team to Baltimore, where he remained in 1996 and 1997. He was an offensive assistant, special teams quality control and assisted in the weight room. Current Browns Vice President/Player Personnel Mike Lombardi was on the Browns staff in 1995 when Settle was here. In his first season with Carolina in 2011, Settled guided the Panthers to 2,408 yards rushing, third-most in team history. They also set a team record with an average of 5.41 yards per carry. DeAngelo Williams and Jonathan Stewart both averaged more than 5 yards per attempt, and the Panthers rushed for 100 yards or more in a club-record 14 straight games. Williams (836) and Stewart (761) joined quarterback Cam Newton (706) to form the first rushing attack in NFL history with three 700-yard rushers. Settle takes over a group that includes No. 3 overall pick Trent Richardson, and 2010 second-round Montario Hardesty. Richardson rushed for 950 yards and 11 TDs as a rookie. Signed as an undrafted rookie free agent out of Appalachian State by the Falcons in 1987, Settle started 29 of 46 games over six seasons, spending four years with the Falcons from 1987-90 and two with the Redskins from 1991-92. Settle was voted to the Pro Bowl following the 1988 season when he became the first undrafted player since 1970 to rush for 1,000 yards. He also was a member of the Redskins' Super Bowl XXVI championship team. DAVIS TO EAGLES: Former Browns linebackers coach Billy Davis, who spent the past two seasons here under Pat Shurmur, has been hired as the Eagles defensive coordinator, according to Reuben Frank of CSN Philadelphia. In Philadelphia, Davis will be reunited with Shurmur, who's the Eagles new offensive coordinator. The Browns are still expected to add another linebacker coach.
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It seems like Settle did a pretty good job with the Panthers. Hope he does well here too.
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Browns coach Rob Chudzinski has completed the hiring of his first staff, the team announced today.
The Browns rounded out the staff by hiring inside linebackers coach Ken Flajole, special assistant to the head coach Steve Gera and assistant strength and conditioning coaches Chris DiSanto and Derik Keyes. They also announced their previously reported hire of running backs coach John Settle.
“The additions of Ken and John, as well as Chris, Derik and Steve, round out what I believe is an extremely strong group of coaches with diverse backgrounds, covering many years of experience at both the NFL and collegiate levels,” Chudzinski said in a statement. “They are all outstanding teachers and leaders who will bring out the best in our players.”
Flajole spent last season as the secondary coach of the New Orleans Saints and was fired in January. Before joining the Saints, he served as the defensive coordinator of the St. Louis Rams from 2009-11.
Flajole, 58, also coached linebackers for the Carolina Panthers (2003-08), defensive backs and linebackers for the Seattle Seahawks (1999-2002) and entered the NFL in 1998 as a defensive assistant with the Green Bay Packers. He also has several stops in the college ranks on his resume, which features 36 years of coaching experience.
“Ken is a highly regarded coach with an extensive resume in the NFL,” Chudzinski said. “He has achieved success as a position coach and coordinator in the league. Like other members of our defensive staff, he has experience working in several different schemes, an attribute which will be valuable as we develop the Browns’ defense.”
Settle spent the past two seasons with the Panthers, but coach Ron Rivera fired him in January. In Charlotte, N.C., Settle worked with new Chudzinski, who served as the Panthers’ offensive coordinator during the past two seasons.
Settle’s only other NFL coaching experience was with the Browns in 1995 and then the Baltimore Ravens from 1996-97 after the late Art Modell moved the franchise. Before joining the Panthers in 2011, Settle coached running backs at the University of Wisconsin (2006-10), Fresno State (1998-2005) and his alma mater, Appalachian State (1994).
Settle, 47, played running back for the Atlanta Falcons (1987-90) and the Washington Redskins (1991-92). He made the Pro Bowl in 1988.
“I have been with John the last two years in Carolina, and know first-hand the type of coach that he is,” Chudzinski said. “His players have always been productive and respond well to his teaching methods.”
Gera spent the last six seasons (2007-12) as an offensive assistant coach with the San Diego Chargers. In San Diego, Gera helped Norv Turner, the ex-Chargers head coach and new Browns offensive coordinator, with scouting and film study.
DiSanto spent last season working as an assistant strength and conditioning coach at the University of California. He held the same role with the Oakland Raiders for four seasons (2008-11).
Keyes spent last season holding the title of assistant strength and condition coach with the Houston Texans. Keyes also had similar roles with the University of Louisiana-Lafayette and the University of South Alabama.
Here is information about the five new coaches that was provided by the Browns in a news release:
Flajole (pronounced FLAY-juhl) brings 36 years of coaching experience to Cleveland, including the 2012 season as the secondary coach of the New Orleans Saints. Prior to joining the Saints, Flajole spent three seasons (2009-11) as defensive coordinator with the St. Louis Rams. Before joining the Rams, he spent six seasons (2003-08) as the Carolina Panthers’ linebackers coach. Prior to his stint with the Panthers, Flajole coached four seasons (1999-2002) with the Seattle Seahawks. He spent three of his four seasons (1999, 2001-02) coaching the defensive backs and 2000 as the club’s linebackers coach. He began his NFL coaching career in 1998 as a defensive assistant with the Green Bay Packers. Flajole entered the coaching ranks at his alma mater, Pacific Lutheran, in 1977. He then made collegiate coaching stops at Washington (1979), Montana (1980-85), Texas-El Paso (1986-88), Missouri (1989-93), Richmond (1994), Hawaii (1995) and Nevada (1996-97). A native of Seattle, Flajole was an All-Conference linebacker at Wenatchee Valley Community College (Wenatchee, Wash.) and Pacific Lutheran (Tacoma, Wash.). He and his wife, Teri, have two daughters, Kelly and Kori.
Settle spent the past two seasons (2011-12) in the same capacity with the Carolina Panthers. This is his second stint with the Browns, as he spent the 1995 season as an offensive assistant/special teams quality control coach. In Settle’s first season with the Panthers, the team made NFL history as they became the first club to feature three 700-yard rushers. DeAngelo Williams (836), Jonathan Stewart (761) and Cam Newton (706) each reached the mark as the team also set a club record for average per rush attempt (5.4). In total, team rushed for 2,408 yards on the year, the third-most in franchise history. Prior to his stint in Carolina, Settle spent five seasons (2006-10) in the same capacity at the University of Wisconsin. While leading the Badgers’ running backs, Settle spearheaded a unit that averaged more than 200 rushing yards per contest in each of his last four seasons. He also guided three players who posted a combined six 1,000-yard rushing campaigns (P.J. Hill – 3, John Clay – 2, James White – 1). Prior to joining Wisconsin, Settle spent eight seasons (1998-2005) at Fresno State, leading the Bulldogs’ running backs unit. During his tenure at Fresno State, he coached six different running backs who recorded 1,000-yard seasons. Settle entered the coaching ranks at his alma mater, Appalachian State University, coaching the running backs in 1994, before spending three seasons in the NFL with the Browns (1995) and Baltimore Ravens (1996-97). Originally signed as an undrafted free agent by the Atlanta Falcons following the 1987 NFL Draft, Settle played in 46 games with 29 starts in six NFL seasons (1987-92) as a running back with the Falcons (1987-90) and Washington Redskins (1991-92). A four-year letterman (1983-86) as a running back at Appalachian State University, Settle finished his collegiate career as the school’s all-time leading rusher with 4,409 yards and 43 touchdowns. A native of Reidsville, N.C., he attended Rockingham County High School. He and his wife, Karen, have three children, Jonathan, Leighton and Devynn.
Gera spent the last six years (2007-12) as an offensive assistant coach with the San Diego Chargers where he assisted the coaching staff with scouting and film breakdown. Prior to his time in San Diego, Gera served four years in the United States Marine Corps, including two tours in Iraq in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom. As a decorated Captain in the Marines, Gera earned eight medals during his military career. Gera graduated from the University of Missouri in 2000 with a degree in English and an MBA from the sports business program at San Diego State University in 2007. A native of Kansas City, Mo., Gera is married (Stacey).
DiSanto spent the 2012 season in the same capacity at the University of California. Prior to his time with the Golden Bears, DiSanto served four seasons (2008-11) as assistant strength and conditioning coach with the Oakland Raiders. After graduating from West Chester (Pa.) University in 2000, DiSanto worked as a volunteer strength and conditioning coach for the Philadelphia Eagles for two seasons (2000-01), while also serving in the same role with the Philadelphia Kixx (Major Indoor Soccer League), the Philadelphia Wings (National Lacrosse League) and at his alma mater. In 2005, DiSanto was the offensive line and assistant strength and conditioning coach for the University of Pikesville. He spent 2007 as a strength and conditioning intern with the Minnesota Vikings. In 2003, DiSanto played four months with multiple teams in the Arena Football League and the Arena Football League 2 as an offensive and defensive lineman. During the 2006 season, DiSanto was with the Spokane Shock of the Arena Football League 2. A native of Holland, Pa., DiSanto is a certified strength and conditioning specialist (CSCS) through the National Strength and Conditioning Association.
Keyes coached the 2012 season in the same capacity with the Houston Texans. During his time with the Texans, he assisted in the supervision of weight training and focused on the speed and agility development of players on injured reserve. Prior to joining the Texans, Keyes was an assistant strength and conditioning coach at his alma mater, the University of Louisiana–Lafayette, for the 2011 season. He spent the 2010 season as a graduate assistant strength and conditioning coach at the University of South Alabama and 2009 as an assistant strength and conditioning intern at Louisiana–Lafayette. A four-year letterman (2005-08) as a safety at Louisiana–Lafayette, Keyes was named to the Sun Belt All-Conference second team as a senior. He earned a bachelor’s degree in public relations/business finance from Louisiana–Lafayette in 2008 and a master’s degree in exercise science from South Alabama in 2010. A native of Laurel, Miss., Keyes attended Lafayette (La.) High School. He is a certified USAW Level I Sports Performance coach.
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There are tons of great running back coaches out there but of course we Settle.
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Sounds like a good enough group to me.
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IMO we have a better coaching staff now at least since we came back
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Yeah... I've thought that before. We'll see. I'll believe it when I see it play out on the field. 
[color:"white"]"Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference."
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Yeah... I've thought that before. We'll see. I'll believe it when I see it play out on the field.
I know how you feel, I'm a glass half full kinda guy, always have been. Still feel a little apprehensive I guess..
But on paper,, we have Chud, the only OC that has had a 10 win season here since we came back.. We have Turner that has a couple of Superbowl rings as an OC and a guy in Horton who's come up from player to coach and has always done a pretty darn good job.
So, with that said, I wonder, why am I still apprehensive? is it just that we've been down this road with the Butch Davis types and the Romeo Crennell types. On paper, both should have succeeded.
Begs the question, are the Browns snake bit?
One of my friends who's into forgiving and forgetting with regards to Modell says it's Karma. He firmly believes that until we forgive Modell and help him get elected into the HOF, we'll never win a SB.
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One of my friends who's into forgiving and forgetting with regards to Modell says it's Karma. He firmly believes that until we forgive Modell and help him get elected into the HOF, we'll never win a SB.
I hope you tell him he's full of it.
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One of my friends who's into forgiving and forgetting with regards to Modell says it's Karma. He firmly believes that until we forgive Modell and help him get elected into the HOF, we'll never win a SB.
I hope you tell him he's full of it.
The mans entitled to his own opinion. When it comes to the cosmic powers of the universe, who am I to say he's wrong?
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I believe Chud made 2 great hires in Horton and Turner. Elite, top of the line as good as it gets type of hires.
The rest is kinda even at best and likely downgrades at many positions. I doubt we have upgraded any positional coaches to be honest.
This previous regime had fantastic positional coaches. I dont think there has been a better group of teachers in here at any time. These young kids were fast tracked and the coaches that left here should be very pround of their work.
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Yeah... I've thought that before.
Really? This is the 1st coaching staff that we have had that hasn't made me go "Ugh". Now if we can get them to stay together for a couple years.
Am I perfect? No
Am I trying to be a better person?
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Yeah... I've thought that before. We'll see. I'll believe it when I see it play out on the field.
In the end it is mostly about the players. If they are good, it's funny how the coach is pretty good.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn. GM Strong
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