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After facing rejection in basketball Ansah did successfully walk on to the BYU track team, where he ran a 10.91 in the 100-meter dash in addition to clocking a time of 21.89 seconds in the 200 meters.




He was a 270 lb sprinter.

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- who is this New Mexico Highlands guy? lol




http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1244460/jordan-campbell

The only thing I knew about him was how well he had played in the NFLPA Collegiate Bowl.

In 2011 he had 28.5 (!) TFLs. Granted, that was D2, but who in the heck has 28.5 TFLs?

This past season, (2012) he had 24.0 TFLs and 10.0 sacks.

Jordan Campbell Stats

He originally went to school at USC, recruited as a RB, but transferred out to Louisville the same time that Jarvis Jones went to Georgia.

http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/USC/...-commits-to-usc

Looks like some eligibility issues came up, possibly regarding interactions with an NFL agent.

http://www.thecardinalconnect.com/2011/0...nds-university/

I think this guy is a steal and would love for us to draft him in the 6th or 7th.

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Another combine snub IMO who could be a 6th or 7th round steal.... While Jordan Campbell could be a great choice at 3-4 ILB, I think Brandon Thurmond of Arkansas-Pine Bluff would be a nice pickup at 3-4 OLB.

This past year, Thurmond (who played DE and is listed at 6'1" or 6'2" and 260#) had 25.0 TFLs and 17.5 sacks.

http://www.uapblionsroar.com/documents/2013/1/26/Stats-FB.pdf

He played great in the Shrine game, and from the practice accounts he had really stood out well there, too.

I can't figure out if he's the same Brandon Thurmond that was recruited to play at Kentucky. "Both" players are listed at 6'2" and from Georgia, but one is listed as Augusta and the other is "Rex" GA. Looks like the player at Kentucky redshirted his freshman year, and was out his entire RS So and RS Junior years with injury. If it's the same guy, then he's definitely an older prospect, but the guy sure looks like he can play.

The sleeper guy I might like the best, though, isn't going to be a sleeper for long, as Armonty Bryant of East Central Oklahoma (3-4 OLB) was invited to the combine.

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I can't figure out if he's the same Brandon Thurmond that was recruited to play at Kentucky. "Both" players are listed at 6'2" and from Georgia, but one is listed as Augusta and the other is "Rex" GA.



Augusta is about 2 hours east of Rex, which is a suburb of Atlanta... and a quick google search shows they went to different high schools.. totally different kids.


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ah thanks. I did look up the cities on the map and saw they were far apart. Didn't think to check their high schools.

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I checked the cities and thought.. it wouldn't be unusual for a kid to consider Augusta his hometown but move closer to Atlanta (Rex) to go to school to improve his recruiting options... but I even saw pictures of both, not the same.


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I checked the cities and thought.. it wouldn't be unusual for a kid to consider Augusta his hometown but move closer to Atlanta (Rex) to go to school to improve his recruiting options... but I even saw pictures of both, not the same.




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Barkevious Mingo says he’s getting bigger and faster

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Barkevious Mingo is undeniably talented —maybe the most talented player in this year’s NFL draft — but at LSU he was a 230-pound defensive end. And there aren’t many 230-pound defensive ends in the NFL.

So that’s why Mingo has been bulking up over the last six weeks. And Mingo says he’s getting significant results.

“The most important thing, I think, to show is that I’ve increased weight —putting on a lot of weight, putting on a lot of size,” Mingo said on NFL AM. “I’m weighing 245 now. I played most of the season at 230.”

Despite that weight gain, Mingo says he has actually gotten faster, and he wants NFL teams to know he’ll be able to play either defensive end or outside linebacker in the pros.

“I think I can do it all,” Mingo said. “I’ve been working on linebacking skills, driving back in coverage — that was something I was lacking at LSU. Working on getting my hands better.”

Mingo is widely viewed as a Top 10 pick. If he shows at the Scouting Combine that he really is bigger and faster, he’ll solidify that status

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Mingo has some very high ceiling, that's for sure. He also has a very low floor.

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Barkevious Mingo... That name just SOUNDS like the kind of nasty dude you want playing OLB in a 3-4 defense!

I have no idea about his skills, but it sounds like he's trying to get a head start on the learning curve to playing at the next level. It will be interesting to see how he does at the Combine and in individual workouts. I'm no draftnik, but it seems like tweeners like this guy are, more often than not, huge boom or bust propositions.


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Barkevious Mingo... That name just SOUNDS like the kind of nasty dude you want playing OLB in a 3-4 defense!




I don't know. But, if his name was Mongo, then I wouldn't want to mess with him unless I had a TNT-laced candygram on hand.


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First 4 letters are B-A-R-K...

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Too bad it's not Barkevious Barkley. That would be amazing.

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Speaking of LB's, Alec Ogletree was charged with DUI. Could cost him some money, since he failed a drug test once already. I guess he's headed to Cinci.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/16/alec-ogletree-charged-with-dui/

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Somehow these knuckleheads surprise me every time w this idiotic behavior...

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Really - the guy had jumped Teo to be top-rated ILB, from what I've read, and has a shot at being a top ten pick. He's standing at the verge of a payday that could sustain him and his family for the rest of his life. His response? Drive drunk. I don't know if it ends up affecting his draft position, but along with a failed drug test, it should be a major red flag - if only for what it says about his maturity and intelligence.

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Somehow these knuckleheads surprise me every time w this idiotic behavior...





I hear ya.. I can't speak for anyone else, but if the biggest day in my life to this point was around the corner,, I'd get my family to lock me in a room and feed me three times a day only letting me out to exercise and stay in shape. LOL

I wouldn't get near week, booze, women, fast cars.. Nothing. I'd be a Monk LOL


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I wouldn't get near week, booze, women, fast cars.. Nothing. I'd be a Monk LOL






So basically you would keep doing what you have done for most of your life.


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So basically you would keep doing what you have done for most of your life.




Oh how little you know about me, LOL Outside of weed, I've done them all


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You've never smoked weed???


I have, be it a long time ago....it cost $20 a ounce.....that was maybe 1974 or 1975....I know I quit by 76, and haven't since.


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I never saw the great appeal of weed.

I tried it a few times when I was a kid ...... and while everyone else was "Oh man, this is good ... (stuff) ...... I'm really getting a major buzz ..." I felt nothing at all from it.

I guess things affect different people differently.


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Your body has natural immunities tolerance... thats why most ppl say the first time they smoke they felt nothing

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Man, is this still a draft thread


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You've never smoked weed???


I have, be it a long time ago....it cost $20 a ounce.....that was maybe 1974 or 1975....I know I quit by 76, and haven't since.




Yes once, I'm not sure why, but it did nothing for me so I never did again. I didn't find anything in it that made it worth the risks associated with it.

My attempt was 1970. a nickle bag was 5 bucks and I don't remember how much was in it. that's how little I paid attention.

I preferred a beer at the time.


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Guess I win the goody two shoes of the board. I have never even tried weed once. Never smoked a cigarette either.


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You've never smoked weed???


I have, be it a long time ago....it cost $20 a ounce.....that was maybe 1974 or 1975....I know I quit by 76, and haven't since.




Yes once, I'm not sure why, but it did nothing for me so I never did again. I didn't find anything in it that made it worth the risks associated with it.

My attempt was 1970. a nickle bag was 5 bucks and I don't remember how much was in it. that's how little I paid attention.

I preferred a beer at the time.




you got hosed...

back in my high school days of 1999 a nickel was 5.00
a dime bag was 10.00 and a quarter was 25.00
and a half was 50.00


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You also got ripped. When I was in HS, an oz of good columbian was 35 or 40 dollars.


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I'm liking Damontre Moore at the OLB in our 34 IF Milliner goes earlier.

Still pretty high on Milliner and Haden at the CB spots though.

FA signings will be key.

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I don't know what kinda people y'all have bought from, but in my neck of the woods, it's called a dimebag because it's $10. Has nothing to do with how much is actually in it, as the amount of weed you'll get for $10 depends on the quality.



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Good thing that the weed discussion already started in here, because I fear we will have to smoke a lot of ganjah to make our draft look good

That said, I think we should draft Ansah no matter who is on the board at 6. He's a true DE/OLB tweener for the 3-4, which is incredibly rare. He's an animal against the run and incredibly raw rushing the passer, but there's plenty of power, motor and speed to turn into greatness. I love Moore but you can't teach speed/athleticism, also Moore is a pure OLB only. Ansah otoh can line up both at DE and OLB, he's the definition of HYBRID. He's somewhat a 180 to the norm 3-4 OLB, as I'd play him standing up on early downs and from the ground on passing downs, allowing a pass rush only guy to enter the field behind him

My board for pick no6 looks like this right now:

1. Ansah
2. Moore
3. Milliner
4.-10. Trade down for whatever you can get

I usually have 15-30 players I'm sold on at the end of the draft process. Right now these are the other players in this no1 category:

CB Banks
OT L.Johnson
G Cooper
RB Lacy
RB S.Taylor
TE Eifert
TE Kelce
WR Patton
FS Swearinger

The top guys in category no2 and close to jump into my "sold on" list are:

OT Fisher
CB Alford
CB Wreh-Wilson
CB J.Taylor
OLB Okafor
T/G Thomas
G Warford
S S.Thomas
RB Randle
T/G Pugh
WR S.Bailey
WR T.Williams
RB Bernard
DE B.Logan
OLB C.Thomas


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I would never draft any linebacker top 20 that isnt a pass rusher. Werner, I see as 4-3 DE only. Moore and Jones are the 2 I want if we state at 6. I dont know if Ansah would be successful under Horton. Hell we may go free agency for our pass rusher anyway.

Millner I like but I actually like Rhodes from FSU more. Tenacious and physical and reminds me a lot of Richard Sherman. Banks is going to be a good one also. Rhodes is kinda off everyone's radar it seems. Havent seen him as a first rounder in any mocks. Actually everyone seems to have trufant rated ahead of banks and Rhodes.

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I'm coming around to a different mindset lately when it comes to the draft.

What do all of the top teams in the league, the perennial contenders for a Super Bowl, have in common?

They all have holes, but make up for those deficiencies by being completely dominant in one phase of the game.

New England can dink and dunk with precision all day long.

Baltimore executes the long ball better than anyone.

The 49ers maul people along the line of scrimmage.

When the Giants won their Super Bowls, it was the front four beating the hell outta everyone.

Right now, this draft, we have the chance to build a unit that can obliterate other teams with such consistency that it will cover areas of weakness.

Chance Warmack, Guard, Alabama.

I'm sick and tired of the so called "conventional wisdom" that says that a guard shouldn't be taken that high or that you can't put that much money in the OL.

Why not? It's not like rookies get paid top dollar anymore, and investing in top players consistently in one area will probably yield dominant performance from that unit.

I'm saying it now, and I don't care if I get derided for it:

Damn the holes we have in the secondary and linebacking corps, I don't care. Make the OL so good that the other teams' defense can't get off the field because they can't stop any run. Make the OL so good that other teams can't walk right after we are done beating the blood outta them. Play offense and keep the ball so long it doesn't matter if you have significant issues on defense, because their offense can't get on the field.

Chance Warmack, Guard, Alabama.

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despite him looking like crap at the senior bowl practices, ansah can move. I think he'll show really well at the combine and I don't think athleticism is an issue for him, if that's what you mean by "under Horton." I want to watch some more but I'm being converted, too.

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I wouldn't be opposed to this at all.

Imagine the following OL for Trent Richardson to run behind.

LT - Joe Thomas
LG - Andy Levitre
C - Alex Mack
RG - Chance Warmack
RT - Mitchell Schwartz

All these folks that say that Alex Smith isn't all that, but he was 13-3 last year behind a quality OL. He was 6-2-1 this year behind that line. Colin Kaepernick was 5-2 behind that line (excluding the playoffs).

Build the OL and you improve your team more than any other unit. It makes your entire offense better.

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I'm not opposed to Warmack... But isnt Barret Jones the better lineman? I know he played center last year, but the kid can play any spot on the line and excelled at each. Including Left Tackle.

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I'm not opposed to Warmack... But isnt Barret Jones the better lineman? I know he played center last year, but the kid can play any spot on the line and excelled at each. Including Left Tackle.





Warmack is the cream. Jones is great, but Warmack is the prize off that line.


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Jones is more versatile, but he can't play any position better than Warmack can play guard. Warmack is especially talented at getting to the next level and embarrassing linebackers, ask Ogletree, Jones, and Te'o.


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That is waaaaay too much money invested in a unit that doesn't score points

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We need a pass rusher. Ansah doesnt have the rush skills I am looking for. I think he is a strong run defender that will put up 4 or 5 sacks a year and those will come on hustle plays.

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