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Hey! Armonty Bryant made it to the combine! Good for him. I hope he gets a shot, because he's really physically gifted and I think could be a good player.

Also, Rontez Miles is in from Tx vs the Nation Game
Lamar Mady OL from Youngstown St and Tx vs. the Nation Game made it

No Ray-Ray Armstrong
No AJ Francis
No Byron Jerideau
No Brandon Thurmond

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/blog/rob-rang/21657954/nfl-draft-top-10-combine-snubs

2013 NFL Draft: Top 10 Combine Snubs

Every year approximately 330 NFL Draft prospects are invited to the annual Scouting Combine in Indianapolis to work out for teams in preparation for the NFL Draft. This year's Combine is scheduled for Feb. 20-26 at Lucas Oil Stadium and will consist of interviews, medical exams and player workouts. And each year there are some surprises as to who is and isn't invited.

The full list of 333 prospects for the 2013 NFL Combine can be found here.

NFL Combine participants are selected by a selection committee made up of the directors of both National and BLESTO scouting services along with anonymous player personnel representatives from several NFL teams. Eligible players are voted on by the committee and the prospects with enough votes are then invited to the combine.

While the goal of the process is to invite every player who will be selected in the NFL Draft, approximately 25-50 prospects are drafted each year who did not receive an invitation. Last season, Miami (Ohio) offensive guard Brandon Brooks was drafted 76th overall in the third round by the Houston Texans, but didn't receive an invitation. Other notable exclusions from last year's list included Eagles running back Bryce Brown, Seahawks cornerback Jeremy Lane and Rams running back Daryl Richardson (all three were drafted in April).

And this year isn't any different as there were several surprising omissions from the recently released 2013 Combine invite list, here are the top-10:

10. WR DeVonte Christopher, Utah
Although his 2012 production (22 catches for 301 yards and three touchdowns) suffered due to inconsistent quarterback play, Christopher is a savvy pass catcher with quick hands and natural body control.

9. CB Travis Howard, Ohio State
The All-Big Ten Honorable Mention cornerback has good size (6-0, 198) and length (32 1/4" arms) for the position, and although he had a very up-and-down senior season, his raw skills are intriguing.

8. WR Jasper Collins, Mount Union
As he attempts to follow in the footsteps of Pierre Garcon and Cecil Shorts as Purple Raiders in the NFL, Collins won't have the benefit of the combine like Garcon and Shorts before him.

7. CB Demontre Hurst, Oklahoma
Although he has only average size (5-9, 200) and speed, Hurst is an aggressive competitor with good experience, starting 40 games for the Sooners over the past three seasons.

6. ILB Vince Williams, Florida State
A late invite to the Senior Bowl in Mobile a few weeks ago, Williams is a physical thumper with downhill speed, but his lateral quickness and overall range are question marks.

5. DT Anthony Rashad White, Michigan State
Weighing in at 334 pounds, White has some sloppy weight and he appears to wear down too easily, but he is a load to handle in the middle and fits as a zero or one technique tackle in the NFL.

4. TE Zach Sudfeld, Nevada
After missing the 2011 season with a leg injury, Sudfeld led Nevada in touchdown catches (eight) as a senior and brings an intriguing blend of size (6-6, 261) and quickness to the next level.

3. CB Branden Smith, Georgia
While not as instinctive or productive as former cornerback teammate Brandon Boykin, Smith is a similar athlete with the speed and hip fluidity to stick with receivers all over the field.

2. RB Dennis Johnson, Arkansas
Although he didn't receive the same hype as Knile Davis (who did receive an invite), Johnson is a quick-footed runner with the balance and toughness needed for the position and leaves Arkansas as the school and SEC all-time leader in kickoff return yardage.

1. TE Michael Williams, Alabama
Although he plays stiff and will struggle to separate at the next level, Williams is a powerful and physical blocker with the size and strength to stick in the NFL as a No. 2 tight end.

Other notable snubs: DE Wes Horton (USC), DT Omar Hunter (Florida), OLB Cameron Lawrence (Mississippi State), S Rashard Hall (Clemson), S Kenny Tate (Maryland), OT Elvis Fisher (Missouri), C Dalton Freeman (Clemson), RB Curtis McNeal (USC), WR Zach Rogers (Tennessee), OG John Sullen (Auburn), FB Kyle Juszczyk (Harvard), DE David King (Oklahoma), DT Anthony McCloud (Florida State), OG Sam Brenner (Utah)

Two players from Maryland really intrigue me, Furstenberg the tight end.. good physical specimen, I was expecting him to have a good year this year and because MDs QBs fell apart the second half of the season, nobody else on the team really had a chance to get any attention... the second is Kenny Tate... played a hybrid safety/LB spot last year... good athlete, big hitter, tall at 6'4", but a bit of a tweener in size (weight) and speed...

Not advocating we take either of them, just curious to see how the draft process goes for them.

What did you think of AJ Francis? He was impressive in the Shrine Game, but I haven't seen him outside that and he wasn't invited to the combine.

cool, thanks for the info.

http://www.cornerblitz.com/2013/Features/UTR-home.aspx

Under The Radar: Prospect List

Under The Radar: Armonty Bryant Defensive End -- East Central Oklahoma
Armonty Bryant first caught my eye at the Texas vs. the Nation game on February 2nd in Allen, Texas. Big number 9 was clearly the best player on the field that day, as the 6'4", 260# guy with the white helmet was flying past offensive linemen with AQ conference logos. He seemed to be making an impact just about every play. Bryant hit the quarterback on several dropbacks, drew a holding penalty in the backfield on a run to his side, and made a one-armed tackle while engaged with the RT. I kept looking down at my roster so I would remember to check this guy from East Central Oklahoma when I got back home.

Armonty Bryant is a big, athletic, quick pass rusher. At his size, he looks like he can play 4-3 defensive end or 3-4 outside linebacker. Playing DE for the ECU Tigers, he rung up 19 TFLs, 13.5 sacks, 2 Forced Fumbles and 4(!) blocked kicks as a sophomore in 2010. His production dropped off quite a bit in 2011 as he managed only 12.5 TFLs and 3 sacks, but still managed to force 3 fumbles and block 3 more kicks. His senior year production was great, as he rung up 17.5 TFLs, 10.5 sacks, 4 forced fumbles and blocked 2 more kicks, but he missed three games in October due to a minor drug arrest for selling $20 bags of marijuana. At practice. To an undercover cop.

Bryant received an invite to the combine, so he won't be a sleeper for long. What teams will have to find out is, what kind of guy is he? Why did his production drop off so much his Junior year? Is he a talented guy who just didn't get the same start that the more lauded prospects from big schools? Or is he a knucklehead more concerned about taking iPhone picture of himself and selling weed than focusing on practice and getting better? Is he strictly a pass rusher or can he use his athleticism to transition to an OLB in a 3 man front? He will definitely be one to watch at the combine.


Under The Radar: Lamar Mady Offensive Guard -- Youngstown State
The first time I heard of Lamar Mady was attending the Texas vs. the Nation game this year. I noticed a guy on the line for the Nation squad that looked smaller than everyone else. I watched him on one particular snap and was surprised to see what a great push he got. I watched again, and saw the same thing. Later in the game, I was impressed to see him completely lock out the rushing DT, then on the next play push him well back and out of the pocket, giving the QB all day to throw. I was still concerned about his size, but he was definitely the best offensive lineman on the field that day.

Lamar Mady is listed by his school as 6'3", 315#, and NFLDraftScout has him at 6'2", 314#. If he meets either of those numbers, he is plenty big enough to play in the NFL. Like a lot of these under the radar players, the level of competition he faced week in and week out wasn't stellar, and with essentially statless offensive linemen it's very difficult to compare candidates, but believe me that this guy can play. He will be a late-round steal for a club (and there are many) that needs a guard to help out on their line.

Mady received an invite to the combine, so you will see him in action soon. The most important part of his combine might just be the weigh-in. If he really is 6'2" (the same height as Top 10 player Chance Warmack and Pro Bowl alternate Andy Levitre) then there will be no question on whether or not he should get a shot at the next level. I'm not sure how he'll do in the timed events, but the guy can lock on to a defender and give him a nice punch.


Under The Radar: Rontez Miles Free Safety -- California (PA)
I first was given the heads-up on Miles from draft junkie Shane Hallam as someone to watch at the Tx vs the Nation game. He didn't disappoint. Miles was active against both the run and the pass, knifing into the backfield in a goal-to-go situation stuffing the Texas RB. Later in the game, he made a "right place, right time" interception. He is a bit undersized, but it doesn't stop him from sticking his nose into the pile or making the big hit.

Rontez Miles is an attacking hitter as a safety. In his 48 career college games, Miles has racked up 257 tackles, including 23 TFLs and 4 sacks. He's also managed 10 INTs and 4 blocked kicks. While Miles isn't the most-polished tackler, he always seems to find the ball and delivers plenty of stopping power with his hits. He typically played very deep at FS but was also used as a coverage or blitzer from the slot. Miles was an enthusiastic and effective special teamer as well, which he'll likely have to show to initially make a squad this fall. His play reminds me a lot of David Sims of the Philadelphia Eagles.

Miles received an invite to the combine, so you will get to see him for yourself. Miles appears to have alopecia, so he will be easy to recognize. Undoubtedly, he will be asked by teams at the combine about many pictures on his MySpace account which show him flashing gang signs. Rontez, if you're reading this, it's time to put that kid stuff to bed. This is serious, and only first rounders get second chances.

I believe that Mady will wind up starting for someone at the pro level. I'd draft him later in the draft.

I had the opportunity to watch him a coupla times.
I must admit,NFL starter quality didnot jump out at me.
My impression of him was that of a plodder,not real athletic.
But,intelligence and hard work will payoff more for an interior lineman than any other position.

Clear something up for me Bud.
ECU is Eastern Carolina U.to me.(the beach)
Does EastCentral Okie go by those initials?
If the writer screwed that up,than I have zero confidence in anything else he had to say.

Yes, east central also uses those initials, just like UT is both Texas and Tennessee.

http://www.ecutigers.com/sport.asp?sportID=8

He does a nice job both in the run game and in pass protection.

I do think that he's one guy who could make the leap from YSU to the NFL.

Da'Rick Rogers is a guy I'd like to watch. A physical WR specimen at 6'3"-6'5" and around 220 lbs (depends on who's listing him.) He's got nasty speed for his size and big, natural hands. Off the field problems could really see him fall in the draft. He started playing at Tennessee then transferred to Tenn Tech. He put up really good numbers with Tenn his sophomore year. His junior year at Tech saw his numbers drop but he had little time to work into the system. The guy could be a steal if he drops. I know we're not neccessarily on the market for a WR but with Rogers opposite of Gordon... We could destroy secondaries.

Just fyi, for all the prospects not invited to the Combine there are a series of Regional Combines in various cities. The Browns are hosting one in Berea tomorrow, apparently for LB's. Beau Bell will be attending, after playing in the CFL and the Arena League since the Browns cut him.

http://www.cantonrep.com/browns/x1433784456/And-you-thought-you-had-seen-the-last-of-Beau-Bell

The players have to qualify for an invitation - they have to have some bonafides - but they also pay a $225 entry fee and travel expenses. I've been trying to find a list of "invitees", but the NFL really seems to keep these workouts under the radar.

Does he play Quincy Morgan foobawl?

http://m.nfl.com/news/0ap1000000139744/

Pre-combine position rankings for 2013 NFL Draft

By Mike Mayock

Published: February 15, 2013 at 6:50 PM Modified: February 16, 2013 at 2:37 AM

With the NFL Scouting Combine beginning on Feb. 23, Mike Mayock unveils the first of his position-by-position rankings for the 2013 NFL Draft.

QUARTERBACK
1. Geno Smith, West Virginia
2. Matt Barkley, USC
3. Mike Glennon, NC State
4. Ryan Nassib, Syracuse
5. Landry Jones, Oklahoma

RUNNING BACK
1. Eddie Lacy, Alabama
2. Montee Ball, Wisconsin
3. Andre Ellington, Clemson
4. Giovani Bernard, North Carolina
5. Marcus Lattimore, South Carolina

WIDE RECEIVER
1. Cordarrelle Patterson, Tennessee
2. Keenan Allen, Cal
3. Terrance Williams, Baylor
4. Tavon Austin, West Virginia
5. Quinton Patton, Louisiana Tech

TIGHT END
1. Tyler Eifert, Notre Dame
2. Zach Ertz, Stanford
3. Gavin Escobar, San Diego State
4. Travis Kelce, Cincinnati
5. Jordan Reed, Florida

CENTER
1. Travis Frederick, Wisconsin
2. Brian Schwenke, Cal
3. Barrett Jones, Alabama
4. Khaled Holmes, USC
5. Braxston Cave, Notre Dame

GUARD
1. Chance Warmack, Alabama
2. Jonathan Cooper, North Carolina
3. Larry Warford, Kentucky
4. Kyle Long, Oregon
5. Brian Winters, Kent State

TACKLE
1. Luke Joeckel, Texas A&M
2. Eric Fisher, Central Michigan
3. Lane Johnson, Oklahoma
4. D.J. Fluker, Alabama
T-5. Menelik Watson, Florida State
T-5. Justin Pugh, Syracuse

DEFENSIVE END
1. Bjoern Werner, Florida State
2. Damontre Moore, Texas A&M
3. Ezekiel Ansah, BYU
4. Sam Montgomery, LSU
T-5. Datone Jones, UCLA
T-5. Margus Hunt, SMU

DEFENSIVE TACKLE
1. Sharrif Floyd, Florida
2. Star Lotulelei, Utah
03. Sheldon Richardson, Missouri
4. Sylvester Williams, North Carolina
T-5. Kawann Short, Purdue
T-5. Johnathan Hankins, Ohio State

OUTSIDE LINEBACKER
1. Dion Jordan, Oregon
2. Jarvis Jones, Georgia
3. Khaseem Greene, Rutgers
4. Barkevious Mingo, LSU
5. Arthur Brown, Kansas State

INSIDE LINEBACKER
1. Alec Ogletree, Georgia
2. Manti Te'o, Notre Dame
3. Kevin Minter, LSU
4. Kevin Reddick, North Carolina
5. Kiko Alonso, Oregon

CORNERBACK
1. Dee Milliner, Alabama
2. Xavier Rhodes, Florida State
3. Johnthan Banks, Mississippi State
4. Desmond Trufant, Washington
5. Jordan Poyer, Oregon State

SAFETY
1. Kenny Vaccaro, Texas
2. Matt Elam, Florida
3. Johnathan Cyprien, Florida International
4. Eric Reid, LSU
5. Zeke Motta, Notre Dame

In general this seems to be a fairly weak draft for skill positions and pretty strong on the lines and secondary.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/18/mayock-sees-a-post-combine-climb-for-nassib/

Mayock sees a post-Combine climb for Nassib

Posted by Mike Florio on February 18, 2013, 2:34 PM EST

The Underwear Olympics get rolling this week. And so NFL Network’s Mike Mayock is doing a lot of talking about it, on a conference call.

And I’ve been doing a lot of listening.

Mayock pointed out early in the call that there are “a whole of lot holes in the quarterback class.” One of those quarterbacks could benefit, once the Combine gets rolling.

Syracuse quarterback Ryan Nassib “will quietly climb” between Indy and Radio City Music Hall, Mayock believes. “When coaches get involved,” Mayock explained, “they’re going to fall in love with his work ethic and intelligence.”

Mayock compared Nassib to Kirk Cousins in 2012 and Andy Dalton in 2013, both of whom have good but not great physical attributes but who impress coaches with their brains and their willingness to roll up their sleeves and work

FWIW, Barkley measured in above 6'2" and has 10" hands.

Not small.

Travis Kelce at the combine:

"I love Cleveland to death, it's my home city. Obviously, being from Cleveland you have to have some heart for the Browns."

I think he has just as much arm strength as guys like Matt Schaub, Matt Hasselbeck, Matt Ryan, and Drew Brees.

Schaub has one of the stronger arms in football?

Yes.

I agree with you. And I definitely don't want Barkley. But the weaker armed Qb's can be successful if they have the brain to anticipate well enough. Get the ball to where it needs to be when it needs to be there.

Kosar, Sipe, Brees, Montana - No one would ever say any of those guys have/had a cannon for an arm but they all had great vision and anticipation. Often throwing the ball well before the Wr makes his cut eliminating the Db's opportunity to make a play on the ball.

What having a strong arm does is make up for the late/poor decision. It let's the ball get through at times when lesser armed Qb's would have the ball knocked down or intercepted.

Barkley has average arm strength. I would say close to Matt Moore, Andrew Luck.

Some interesting info on Tyler Bray.I was not aware that he was that big. He might be an interesting mid round pick.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/blog/...t-gain-demeanor

I have Bray right behind Jones and Manuel. If we land one of those 3 in the 3rd, I will be happy. I like those 3 better than many of the guys ranked ahead of them.

I don't know how good an offensive lineman this kid is ...... but he's got an impressive 40, that's for sure.

OL Terron Armstead runs crazy-fast 4.65 40-yard dash - CBSSports.com
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/eye-on...65-40-yard-dash

INDIANAPOLIS -- There isn't that much impressive about a 4.65 40-yard dash time. Unless you're an offensive lineman, anyway, which explains why everyone at the 2013 NFL Combine is abuzz over Arkansas-Pine Bluff offensive lineman Terron Armstead.

That's because Armstead, who stands 6'5" and weighs 306 pounds, cranked out a pair of eye-popping numbers, running a 4.65 and 4.71 40-yard dash.

Both times are unofficial and we usually see these times go up after the official numbers are posted. So it's possible Armstead ends up with higher numbers, but it's not that relevant, because the dude can cook down the track.

"I've been blessed with a unique skill-set," Armstead said via Dane Brugler of NFLDraftScout.com. "I'm extremely light on my feet for a big guy, I have to say. It's a blessing."

Simply put, he's fast. Of course, we already knew this -- the NFLDraftScout.com guys predicted Armstead would "dazzle in workouts" this year. He's doing just that.

And he's also likely pushing his stock north quickly. Projected as the 10th overall tackle by our rankings and a third-round pick, Armstead is doing himself some favors.

Nothing says Saturday morning like watching gigantic lineman sprint around in their skivvies. But no matter what you think of the offensive lineman portion of the combine, you'd be hard pressed to hate on Armstead.

I think you will see these read option teams really target the athletic offensive linemen in this draft. This could help push a guy like OG Larry Warford down to us in the 3rd. Put that kid at LG and wow, that would be a scary offensive line. I like Pinky but I doubt he ever makes it back to be honest.

Yeah, that's more than 300 lbs (officially 306 lbs.) moving that fast. Draft him to be a fullback.

Hell, I was wondering if he could play Guard. He'd make an incredible pulling Guard moving that fast.

He's definitely an offensive tackle. I had him as my #6-rated LT in the draft Pre-Combine, but will be number 4 or 5 after the combine. I knew he was athletic but didn't know that athletic.

I posted my observations on the OL here, if anyone is interested.

I like Warford. A solid player. I like Warmack more, but so does everybody else and no way he falls past 15 at best.

If we took Warford in the 3rd, I'd have no complaints.