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I would have to say no to Ziggy at 6. I didnt like the limited film I have seen on him (youtube). Too raw for me at 6. The only player I would want at 6 is Millner.
Geno Smith is a possibility. If the FO views him as a franchise QB I would be OK with that selection.
I think this would be a great year to trade down to the teens. There I would target Warmack or Jones who I like the best of all the OLB prospects.
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1 - KC - Sharrif Floyd DT Fla - They resign Alberts at LT and cut Tyson Jackson for cap space.
2 - Jax - Dee Milliner Cb Ala - Bradley saw what a difference tough corners can make when he was in Sea. He attempts to duplicate that in Jax
3 - Oak - Geno Smith Qb WV - I originally had a LT here but I think they will realize that Palmer is done and Pryor never will be.
4 - Philly - Eric Fisher OT CMU - Could be a 3-4 OLb but they need oline help and Chip is an offensive guy (pun intended). I think Joeckel is the best LT in the draft but I also think that Kelly wants more mobile guys on his line so takes Fisher because of his combine performance. Kelly is so smart he outsmarts himself.
5 - Detroit - Ziggy Ansah DE BYU - Could be Milliner if he falls. Should be Joeckel. But I believe that the Lions coaching fell in love with this guy at the Senior Bowl. Besides, they have needed to address their oline for years and have failed to do so.
6 - SD via trade with Cleveland - Luke Joeckel OT Texas A&M - Best player in the draft. SD needs a LT desperately. The relationship with Norv greases the wheels on this trade.
7 - Arizona - Lane Johnson OT Oklahoma - Would have been Geno Smith had he fallen this far. But since he is gone they address their other glaring need.
8 - Buffalo - Keenen Allen Wr Cal - If Geno Smith falls to our spot Buffalo would probably trade up to jump Arizona to get Smith. They might look to trade with Oakland or Philly to get him. I don't see a Qb that they would take here so they get a weapon and target a Qb in round 2 (most likely a trade up into the back end of round 1.
9 - NYJ - Cordarelle Patterson Wr Tenn - They need Sanchez to have a good year so they get him a weapon. Doesn't help. This pick could easily be one of the OLB's. My guess is that it wold be Mingo if they go that direction but could also be Jordan.
10 - Tennesee - Chance Womack OG Ala - The Titans want to run the ball and Womack gives them that strong interior push to help give Chris Johnson some room to run.
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stop trying to develop a treasure of a rare quaility gem from a lump of coal and start picking up the diamonds laying on the ground all over the place.
Ridiculous analogy. First, where are all the diamonds just laying around in this draft? Jordon? Strength question marks. Jarvis Jones? Stenosis. Mingo? Strength question marks, and can he shed blocks? Damontre Morre? Struggles dropping into coverage, has a hard time playing in space. Werner? Probably too small to play in the 3-4. Dee Milliner? Probably won't be there. If he is, we'd probably jump on him.
Second, Ziggy has incredible raw talent and an almost unlimited upside.
Third, as raw as he is, he's a fierce pass rusher right out of the gate, a huge need we need to fill. Also, he's smooth and quick dropping into coverage, so while he may lack technique and experience, he has the physical tools and ability to get the job done.
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With Joe, "the bean counter" Banner and his committment to analytical statistics I wonder what they believe to be more valuable defensively? Pass rush or pass defense? I accept the old football adage, builld from the inside out or, in this case, from the defensvie front to the secondary. That's a long way of saying I think the Browns can still get a good corner either in free agency or, after round one.
Given that the team does somethings in free agency, I am all in on Ansah.
If any of you have not, you really should go look at his game videos at draftbrakedown.com.
The guy just stands out, it's not just hype. Jordan would be my fall back option if Ansah was gone. However, he is more stout at the point of attack than Jordan. He uses his hands more effectively than Jordan. His leverage and knee bend are very good. Right now, with two years of football experience he stacks and sheds blocks effectivley. He is more physical against the double team. He shows more as a run defender than Jordan and he takes better angles toward the QB in pass rush. He displays good instincts and decision making as plays are developing in fron of him. He's alread played all over the defensive front, lining up at DE, DT, NT and OLB. Sounds ideal for Horton's multi-front defense.
After all of that,throw in the size and speed attributes.
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I watched the cut up of defensive plays for the BYU vs ND game 2012 on the http://draftbreakdown.com website that someone posted in another thread. I chose that game because that is the best team BYU played. I was not impressed at all. I saw him make 2 plays. One a sack on which the defenses stunted and Ansah didn't get blocked. I attribute that sack to scheme not the player. On another play he was blocked but got his hands up and tipped the pass leading to an interception. He did not make another play. He got no pressure vs the pass, at all. As for stout against the run, he got manhandled. Often the play ran right by him. He's also on the all high five butt slap team. You know the guy that shows up at the end of the play to high five and butt slap his teammates and say good job after the play is over. Always next to the pile hardly ever actually in the pile. What games did you watch that you were so impressed? If you have a stellar game of his I will go watch it but I am not an Ansah fan.
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I think there are about seven videos on that site featuring Ansah. Probaably the most impressive is BYU vs. Boise/Utah also look at the bowl game against San Diego St. What I like about what they do with their videos on draftbreakdown is it is not a highlights video. You see some plays made and some that were not. It does display a player's weaknesses and he does have those. He will have to get better; only the most rare prospects come into the league as finished products.
I'm not trying to convince anyone. Every year fans have their preferences.
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I think I was the first on here pimping him for our 6th overall. I'd draft him over pretty much anyone by now.
He just aced EVERTHING I am looking at: ceiling/floor risk, character, coachability, athleticism, toughness/physicality, power, game intelligence, motor, situational football awareness....he's the complete package. He has a crazy ceiling and still a relatively high floor because of how physical and how intense he plays the game, so at worst you have an overachieving front 7 hustle player, who loves to play ST to boot and certainly has the size/speed to be a monster there....sky is the limit once he takes on NFL coaching.
He's also unique in that I don't see much of a real bust chance for a player this raw and new to the game, because he has no question marks with motor/attitude/character thus qualifying on those basic requirements
Many qÈestions, one Ansah: Ziggy 
While he appears intriguing..got two words for ya..Courtney Brown..
Brown was plagued by injuries but one thing above that..he had no mean streak..no burning fire to destroy his opponent..too robotic in his movements.
I can't say what Z WILL BE BUT IF HE'S got no desire to be the best, he won't be.
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I watched the cut up of defensive plays for the BYU vs ND game 2012 on the http://draftbreakdown.com website that someone posted in another thread.
I chose that game because that is the best team BYU played. I was not impressed at all. I saw him make 2 plays. One a sack on which the defenses stunted and Ansah didn't get blocked. I attribute that sack to scheme not the player. On another play he was blocked but got his hands up and tipped the pass leading to an interception. He did not make another play. He got no pressure vs the pass, at all. As for stout against the run, he got manhandled. Often the play ran right by him.
He's also on the all high five butt slap team. You know the guy that shows up at the end of the play to high five and butt slap his teammates and say good job after the play is over. Always next to the pile hardly ever actually in the pile.
What games did you watch that you were so impressed? If you have a stellar game of his I will go watch it but I am not an Ansah fan.
Watch the Senior Bowl.
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I will if I can find a cutup of the defensive plays for his team (was he North or South). But to be honest, I don't think the Senior Bowl will change my mind because I do not put a lot of stock in those games. teams cannot scout each other, olines haven't worked together before ...
And remember Charlie Frye? Wasn't he Senior Bowl MVP?
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http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/NFP-Sunday-Blitz-1729.htmlThings I Didn’t Used to Know ´ *Many people were impressed with Ziggy Ansah’s 4.56 40 yard dash at 271 pounds, and rightfully so. But they would have been more impressed if they knew Ansah didn’t even train for the event. Unlike probably every other player in attendance, Ansah kept going to class and never worked with an outside trainer to prepare for the combine. In fact, the 40 yard dash he ran at the combine was the first of his life, according to his agent Frank Bauer. It should be noted, however, that Ansah did run 100 meter dash and the 200 meters on the Brigham Young track team before he became a football player.My jaw dropped again...while you can call him "stupid" for that or question his committment...at least he didn't train because he went to classes and I believe him as he comes across very humble and intelligent
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I watched the cut up of defensive plays for the BYU vs ND game 2012 on the http://draftbreakdown.com website that someone posted in another thread.
I chose that game because that is the best team BYU played. I was not impressed at all. I saw him make 2 plays. One a sack on which the defenses stunted and Ansah didn't get blocked. I attribute that sack to scheme not the player. On another play he was blocked but got his hands up and tipped the pass leading to an interception. He did not make another play. He got no pressure vs the pass, at all. As for stout against the run, he got manhandled. Often the play ran right by him.
He's also on the all high five butt slap team. You know the guy that shows up at the end of the play to high five and butt slap his teammates and say good job after the play is over. Always next to the pile hardly ever actually in the pile.
What games did you watch that you were so impressed? If you have a stellar game of his I will go watch it but I am not an Ansah fan.
This is definitely the guy that scares me the most at 6. Right behind Mingo.
Unfortunately, he's going to be in play even if Milliner and Jordan are still on the board.
I'm pretty confident that one of Jordan, Ansah, Jones, Milliner is going to be a Brown at 6. How's that for limb crawling? LOL. Best thing is that both OLB and CB are serious needs on this team. I'm also confident that CB will no longer be a serious need by the time we get to the draft.
Django. One might take not preparing for the Combine as a lack of dedication. School or no school. You can't tell me he was in the books all day, every day. Many before him have done the school thing and prepared for his future career in football.
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You managed to scoot out a foot or two on that 10" thick limb.
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BYU raw prospect Ziggy Ansah could be intriguing for Browns at No. 6 Published: Monday, March 04, 2013 Share on facebookShare on twitterShare on stumbleuponShare on redditShare on pinterest_shareMore Sharing Services 0 By Jeff Schudel JSchudel@News-Herald.com Twitter: @jsbrownsinsider Click to enlarge You're going to be hearing and reading about Ezekiel "Ziggy" Ansah a lot over the next seven weeks leading up to the draft — maybe over the next seven or 10 years if the Browns choose to build their defense around him. Some players fall in rankings leading up to the draft and others climb. Ansah, a defensive end/outside linebacker from Brigham Young, is in the latter group. He never played football until 2010 and has a load of what analysts like to describe as "untapped potential." "Three years ago, I needed help putting on my shoulder pads," said Ansah, who was born in Ghana, Africa and arrived in the United States in 2008. "I'm past that now, but when I first went to the BYU coaches and told them I wanted to try out for football, I don't think they thought I was even serious." Ansah, 6-foot-5, 271 pounds, grew up playing soccer and basketball at his local schools in Accra, the capital city of Ghana, where he met Mormon missionaries. The missionary who baptized him kept in touch with Ansah after returning to the United States and convinced him to apply to BYU. Ansah was accepted and tried out for the basketball team in 2008 and '09 but was cut both times. He did make the track team as a walk-on and ran a 10.91 100-meter dash and a 21.89 200-meter dash. Ansah never started a football game at Brigham Young until 2012. He totaled only 10 tackles his first two years. No one outside his coaches and teammates knew who he was. His family was 7,000 miles away in Ghana. The light went on for Ansah last season. He started nine games and made 62 tackles. Thirteen of his tackles were behind the line of scrimmage and he had 4 1/2 sacks. "This is an interesting defensive end/outside linebacker class because for a lot of them you are betting on the upside, and Ansah is certainly one of them," NFL Network analyst Mike Mayock said. "There are a lot of questions about the guy, but you can't question his movement skills." Focus is always put on a player's 40-yard-dash time. Ansah clocked the 40 in 4.63 seconds at the NFL Scouting Combine last week. But the number that was more impressive was his 1.56 split in the first 10 seconds. That translates into a quick burst edge rusher, which is exactly what the Browns are looking for in an outside linebacker in the 3-4 alignment they will use under defensive coordinator Ray Horton. Ansah could be a reach with the sixth pick, which the Browns own. NFLDraftScout.com rates him 12th among players in the draft. Mayock estimated Ansah could go later in the first round, thus making a team already good even better. "I like the challenge a lot," Ansah told a group of reporters interviewing him at the combine. "I know most of you are here to talk to me, but then again a lot of people have doubts about me and that's what I love. I just want to prove you wrong. "I'm just trying to staying focused. I'm not trying to let any of this distract me in any way. I pray every day. I seek Our Father's guidance." Ansah is not homesick for Ghana, but he said he misses his family. He said he knew "zero" about football before enrolling at Brigham Young, so naturally he has had to explain it to his mother and father, two brothers and two sisters back in Africa. "I was really athletic," he said. "I grew up playing basketball. I didn't want to just sit around and go to school. I wanted to do something. Since basketball didn't work out, I wanted to do football." Rob Rang of NFLDraftScout.com offers this scouting report on Ansah: "Rare combination of size, athleticism and natural power. Has a long, well-distributed frame with room for additional muscle mass without a significant loss of quickness. Flashes an explosive initial punch to the offensive lineman to gain space ... Slips off blocks when the ball-carrier is near, latching on with his long arms and big hands for the drag-down tackle. Seemed to improve nearly game to game in 2012, especially when it came to locating the football ... Possesses significant untapped potential and is an ascending talent whose best football is ahead of him." On the negative side, Rang says: "Lacks elite first-step quickness off the snap. Relies too much on his speed, size and an explosive first punch to shock his opponent with his initial surge, struggling to break free if the blocker grabs a hold of Ansah's jersey or chest plate." Ansah is expected to play right end if a 4-3 team drafts him or right outside linebacker for a 3-4 defense. http://news-herald.com/articles/2013/03/04/sports/nh6625480.txt?viewmode=fullstory
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The more I read about him, the more I like.
I doubt he will be taken before the 6th pick, so he is our guy if we want him.
His inexperience might turn out to be an advantage. We are looking at several players who have been DE's their whole college career and we are projecting them to OLB. In that time they have become comfortable playing a certain way. With this guy, he really hasn't formed any habits, so converting him might not even be a conversion. It will simply be training him for a new position.
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Ugh... here we go with the tweener guessing game again. The guy has great measureables, but can he be taught to play the game at the highest level? At #6, I don't want a project. We need a starter. Just say "no." 
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Ugh... here we go with the tweener guessing game again. The guy has great measureables, but can he be taught to play the game at the highest level? At #6, I don't want a project. We need a starter. Just say "no."
That's the problem we face. Just about everybody we want and or need are project players. We could go Millner as a solid pick if he is there. No real chances with Warmack either.
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It's about a 99.9999% sure thing Milliner won't fall to #6. He's arguably top D player in the draft, and there are too many teams ahead of us that need secondary help.
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It isn't my intention to knock Milliner but even if the Browns don't take Ansah the pick really ought to be pass rush/OLB over a corner back. My reasoning is that even with the best secondary coverage if you give a NFL QB enough time in the pocket coverage can't be sustained. A team needs to produce numerous hurries and sacks and a corner usually can't do that. Pass rush is simply a more valuable attribute. The one thing I can say with confidence is the Browns don't have enough ability in that area.
Some will say that Ansah isn't a pass rush specialist. I agree. I see a player that can do multiple things in front seven defense. I'm also of the mind that Horton's defense will put him in more situations to rush given Horton's reliance on zone blitzing. I also don't accept the argument that he is a risk due his lack of experience. He is not a finished product however, there is no reason to suspect that he will not continue to develop given what he's already learned and applied in just two years. The man is studying actuarial science, that's at least as challenging as any defensive technique or scheme. So there is no question about his ability to acquire and apply new skills. He's already done so acedemically and athletically. To the degree there is a question it would be his drive and desire to put in the work. There is nothing, to date, that I am aware of, that is a red flag in that regard. I would expect the front office will undoubtedly do its due dilligence to get answers to any concerns or questions when making any of the selections it is considering. If he meets all the criteria they have I would hope he would be the pick.
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I doubt he will be taken before the 6th pick, so he is our guy if we want him.
I really think that he goes to Detroit at 5. They are losing both of their starting De's and fell in lone with Ansah while coaching him at the Senior Bowl.
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yes, I agree on selecting a pass rusher over a CB. There are some CBs available in FA and we have the $$ (Keenan Lewis), while getting a pass rusher in FA is rather difficult (and expensive).
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I would not take Ziggy at #6, he has only started 9 games in college and never played football before, maybe late 1st or early 2nd but not @ 6 ... JMHO 
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I'm WILLING!
The kids was awesome at the Senior Bowl started to fall in love with him then. The fact that I found out later he has been playing Football only since 2010 (learning to put his equipment on) was not a negative but a positive. He learned so much so fast. Then came the combine. He carried his weight with ease n athletically, Speed, Explosion Did DL n LB drills. Was the first n had nobody to watch as an example. Caught on n did not look RAW that he should have.
He is just at the TIP OF THE ICEBERG.
6'5" 270 4.62 n not Chaun Thompson! Smart, catches on quick he will be something Special n will Dominate!
I want Domination.
We once again are switching to a 3-4 last time I swore up n down PICK Merriman to build the new D around...Turned out WARE was the better pick. But the LOGIC was sound. Now we are new to the 3-4 n got a lot of pieces just not that DOMINANT OLB to take over games. Ziggy Ansah is growing on me more n more...all college DE's have Transition to go through DE - OLB...so he is not as far behind as one might think.
Keep in mind I also love Jones as well. He has that special explosion...of course there is the back thing...will he be Prime Time 5 years from now???
Ziggy seams healthy - hold the weight well. Might be best if he can get to 260 if it makes him FASTER! He will have his moments as a rookie but he will have his DOMINATING moments as well!
We deserve a Game Changing OLB with our new D!
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Liar Liar. 
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I am scared to death of taking a kid with almost no playing experience with the 6th pick in the draft. He might be a great player ..... but it's hard enough to find experienced college players for the 3-4 OLB position, let alone a kid who hasn't even played a full year.
I dunno what we're going to do at 6 ..... but if we stay there, we need a player who will be a major impact player from day 1, and for years to come. I don't know whether or not this kid is that player. Players who are extraordinarily raw and inexperienced, taken at the top of the draft, worry me.
I do think that we have the right coachign staff to help develop a player who need more teaching ...... but still, I want a guy capable of wreaking havoc the day he arrives in camp.
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I will welcome you back, but as with Vers, I talked with you from time to time on the Browns site when I made my once every 4-5 month visit to BS for a while.
As I was saying, I think in this case his lack of experience is a good thing....if that makes any sense to those who don't get the drift.
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This is a weird draft up front. I do like the two OLB prospects Ansah n Jones. But my perfect scenario is Two LT prospects go quick leaving that Johnson kid as the next best...n when we pick at six we start getting more than one team asking to move up n get him...possibly just ending up moving back one spot n gain that 2nd rounder??? But outside of the LTs its pretty week. The Gator DT seems to be moving up fast. The Utah kid has a heart thing...that will scare off possibly an Overall #1 pick n get that LT thing going early.
Ansah looks like more of a sure thing than his resume shows. I just love how much he has improved...heck since his last game to the Senior Bowl he made crazy improvement...n that was Football not Combine stuff. But he did well in LB drills for a guy that RAW...belied the RAW thing.
Peen...always enjoyed your little visits...thanks, Attack Dawg too.
Ansah...yeah all DEs are in a foreign environment transitioning to LB in the 3-4. He probably has a jump on it as his MENTAL THOUGHTS won't make it as difficult as others making that transition. Jones is a natural LB already so his transition is easier.
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I don't much about this kid.No,I know nothing about this kid,other than he is an athletic freak of nature.
So we draft him at 6,what are going to get?
Does he know how to play football? No
Is he instinctual? Can't be,hasn't played enough.
Will he set the edge vs. the run? Highly doubtful.
Can he cover TEs and RBs? Hell no.
Can he rush the passer? That might be his only asset.
So,at #6 overall people are advocating us to draft a one down pass rush,and I hate to use the word specialist because that has yet to be proven,modern day Mike Mamula.
People shouldn't let combine numbers mesmerize them.
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Yes I do,and sadly it's been some time since Spot was splattered by the silver SUV.
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My concern with Ziggy isnt just the inexpierence but its also the level of competition he faced. Watch some highlights from the Boise st game and I saw a lot of Tackles 3 yards past the line, a coverage sack when the ball should have been thrown away. Some decent plays but I didnt see the signiture series that made you say damn hes going to be a stud.
I did see such plays with Jones against some of the best teams in the country. He may have trouble with larger quick OT but he will face that everyday in practice. If it werent for that Spinal thing. I really hope we can drop down to 10-12 and still snag him or Warmack.
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Ok
I have mixed feelings about picking him at 6, but he should be considered an as option. I watched the Senior Bowl and he was all over the place.
All the reports suggest that he has the skill set both mentally and physically to play the game at a high level. In other words he can be coached. The BYU background should not discounted, as the school has pretty strict conduct standards that apply to all.
I would prefer Jordan, or Milliner who are probably more certain, but after the Combine, the number of viable options at 6 have thinned. (see Werner, Moore and Jones)
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So,at #6 overall people are advocating us to draft a one down pass rush,and I hate to use the word specialist because that has yet to be proven,modern day Mike Mamula. People shouldn't let combine numbers mesmerize them.
"People" have pimped him well before the combine..here's what I said exactly 1 month ago...based on watching 5-6 games of Ansah
"This dude will be a Top 10 pick when all is said and done and I would NOT be surprised if he goes top5. Was unimpressed with his stats and expected all hype, but unlike the other rushers he was lined up inside the OT or even at DT most of the time...when he was actually standing up he made some jaw dropping plays.
This kid is not the next Mike Mamula...he plays the game the right way, VERY disciplined and incredibly HIGH motor. Like Moore both 4-3 and 3-4 teams will be interested. In Horton's scheme he can line up from DE to OLB, this dude is crazy versatile and the definition of HYBRID and because he's so well coached and disciplined you can move him ANYWHERE along your front 7"
Btw in general, you just CANT call Ansah raw and want us to draft Jordan at the same time. Jordan played as a standup OLB and had 10.5 TFL and 5 sacks. Ansah played well over half his snaps with his hands on the ground, most of them at NT (!) and had 13 TFL and 4.5 sacks....the "hype" and "Mamula" guy in this draft is Dion Jordan imho, I saw nothing but projection on tape, he was as "meh" as there is out there. Ansah EASILY had the highest motor/hustle of all the rushers, maybe Moore came close and Ansah was BY FAR the best against the run. He's raw using his hands as a rusher, but has shown to be coachable...as I said, he's the definition of "hybrid" and has a crazy ceiling once his technique gets anywhere close to his athleticism...and his floor is still very high thanks to his motor/run defending. This dude can start day 1 and freelance around your front 7
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I don't much about this kid.No,I know nothing about this kid,other than he is an athletic freak of nature.
So we draft him at 6,what are going to get?
Does he know how to play football? No
Is he instinctual? Can't be,hasn't played enough.
Will he set the edge vs. the run? Highly doubtful.
Can he cover TEs and RBs? Hell no.
Can he rush the passer? That might be his only asset.
So,at #6 overall people are advocating us to draft a one down pass rush,and I hate to use the word specialist because that has yet to be proven,modern day Mike Mamula.
People shouldn't let combine numbers mesmerize them.
You answered every single one of your questions with your first statement. Should've left it at that. 
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Ziggy article Around the NFL: BYU's Ansah on Browns' draft radar Steve Doerschuk 03/23/2013 9:50 PM To say the Browns’ 2005 offseason was complicated is like saying Lake Erie is watery. New general manager Phil Savage began working for an owner with whom he would mesh poorly and a new head coach he did not know. Savage’s first draft pick was a problem unto itself, made at No. 3 overall in a year when almost no one, save for a few sleepers who became later picks and lucky strikes elsewhere, was worth it. Braylon Edwards seemed like the safest pick at the time. Now? Recently, at the Hall of Fame Luncheon Club, former Browns head coach Sam Rutigliano had only one thing to say about the former Michigan wide receiver: “There is no ‘I’ in team. There are two in idiot.” Time marched on. Other moves imploded. Savage and Crennel whittled their 2006 Round 1 choice down to Kamerion Wimbley and Haloti Ngata and picked the wrong one. The 2007 trade into Round 1 for Brady Quinn went drip, drip, drip before it went dry. On the flip side, Savage scored at No. 3 overall in ’07 with Joe Thomas, got good value in the 2006 second round with D’Qwell Jackson, and stole Ahtyba Rubin in Round 6 in 2008. The Savage regime produced a 10-6 season, but in the end, lacked the cohesion to survive. Yet, we thought then that Savage was a smart scout, and we still think so. We enjoy Savage’s opinions, which he expresses now and then as director of the Senior Bowl. We took notice the other day when he got in front of the crowd that is touting potential Browns pick (at No. 6 overall) Ziggy Ansah. Ansah is a shade taller than 6-foot-5, weighed 271 pounds at the Combine (running a 4.63 40), and is way outside the box. Ansah took up football in 2010 a while after moving from his native Ghana to Salt Lake City. A Brigham Young student had met him while on a mission trip, and a few dozen conversations later, Ansah was on his way to the United States. Ansah’s early attempts at putting on pads and getting in stances became campus comedy. “The first time he lined up, he looked like a crouching frog,” Brigham Young linebacker Kyle Van Noy told the Salt Lake City Tribune in December. “Funniest thing I ever saw. He was just raw. He still is raw. “But the potential he has is more than anyone I have ever seen play a sport, actually.” Ansah was mostly just a special teams player as recently as 2011 and did not become a full-time starter until well into the 2012 season. His level of play fascinated Savage. Savage sees him as a 4-3 end, but others suppose he could be fitted to a 3-4. New Browns coordinator Ray Horton doesn’t want to be pinned down as to how he will creatively use gifted players. “Ziggy has the physical tools that will make him a likely top 10 pick,” Savage said. “He can turn speed to power and affect the QB. Plus, not only can he drop off into zone coverage, but he also has some experience as an interior rusher. “Ziggy may have the highest ceiling of any prospect in the draft. It will be fascinating to see which team has the courage and vision to take him early.” The Browns need a cornerback more than they need another front-seven guy, but the best one, Alabama’s Dee Milliner, is coming off shoulder surgery. Last year’s Round 1 pick, Alabama’s Trent Richardson, was coming off knee surgery, part of the reason it’s not clear he was worth the No. 3 overall pick. Veteran analyst Pat Kirwan had Ansah as the No. 5 overall pick (Lions) in a mock draft early this month. Kirwan since has reassigned Ansah to the Saints at No. 15, but says, “Ziggy is not as raw as advertised and will be effective early.” The Browns are as likely as any team in the draft to try to trade down. If they do, don’t be surprised if “Ziggy” comes up.
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Recently, at the Hall of Fame Luncheon Club, former Browns head coach Sam Rutigliano had only one thing to say about the former Michigan wide receiver: “There is no ‘I’ in team. There are two in idiot.”
Ouch. Sam is usually polite to a fault ...... so Edwards must have been a complete and total tool.
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Setting aside how I feel about Ansah, which, as it turns out, is mirrored by Savage when saying I think he's a 4-3 DE, I wonder where in that article it actually says Ansah is on our radar.
Just general commentary on the shadiness of modern "journalism."
At this point, is there a top-15 guy who isn't on our radar?
A case can be made for every single player who might rank in the top-15 in this draft that he should be on our radar.
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Ouch. Sam is usually polite to a fault ...... so Edwards must have been a complete and total tool.
Now you don't have any proof of that...
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Ouch. Sam is usually polite to a fault ...... so Edwards must have been a complete and total tool.
Now you don't have any proof of that...
I don't have any proof of which?
Oh, I see ..... you missed the purple tag ......
I didn't understand what you were trying to say until I hit reply and looked at the "purple" tag.
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