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Is anyone picking Davidson over Marquette?
I'm looking at the spreads for every game, and that one, despite being a 3v14, is only Marquette -3.5
I think alot of people are and I wanted to and looked for reasons to do it. I couldn't find anything solid. Marquette has a good coach and is too good on offense for Davidson's poor defense to stop.
Another one I see alot of people picking that makes no sense is SD State over Michigan. I hate Michigan, but Nate Wolters is going to get eaten alive by Trey Burke and company.
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Is anyone picking Davidson over Marquette?
I'm looking at the spreads for every game, and that one, despite being a 3v14, is only Marquette -3.5
I think alot of people are and I wanted to and looked for reasons to do it. I couldn't find anything solid. Marquette has a good coach and is too good on offense for Davidson's poor defense to stop.
Another one I see alot of people picking that makes no sense is SD State over Michigan. I hate Michigan, but Nate Wolters is going to get eaten alive by Trey Burke and company.
It just seems too easy, I think I am going to stick with Marquette. They seem to be one of those teams that does well in the first couple rounds.
Yeah, Michigan is top heavy in talent, I can't see them losing that early.
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I originally put Marquette in my Final Four. After seeing the spread, I've changed my mind and have them losing in the first round. 
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I originally put Marquette in my Final Four.
After seeing the spread, I've changed my mind and have them losing in the first round.
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There are a few games that I am not completely sure of on my bracket that I'm curious to get some opinions on.
Creighton vs Cincinnati
Marquette vs Davidson
Butler vs Bucknell
Right now I have Indiana and Louisville in the national title game, but I don't really feel like I trust Indiana as N.C. State has the talent to potentially upset them in round #2.
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my thoughts on Quette are above.
Creighton is extremely well coached. I'd be surprised to see Cinci pull that one off.
Butler v. Bucknell might be one of the better 1st round matchups, but I'm not betting against Stevens in the tourney.
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Butler v. Bucknell might be one of the better 1st round matchups, but I'm not betting against Stevens in the tourney.
I don't know as much about college basketball as you guys, but I definitely know that one.
If they lose, I will live with it, but that guy seems like he always has his kids ready.
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Something tells me this year is going to be very chaulky. All season we heard about how much parity there was and how any team could get hot enough to make a run to the title game. While that's true, I think all that talk is going to come 180 degrees once the tourney starts.
And I was one of those talkers too. I wouldn't predict a 16 beating a 1 seed, but I remember telling a buddy of mine that if it was ever going to happen, this was the year for it. I think I made that comment after 6 beers and during that time period where the #1 ranked team seemed to lose 5 weeks in a row.
Outside of seeing a very low-seeded team win the whole thing, which we almost saw in 2010, I think the world wants to see a 16 seed win the opening round game. It would be epic.
EDIT - I guess 2011 would be the year. Butler was an 8 seed in 2011. They were a 5 seed in 2010. And it would have to be in the shot clock era (anything before that was just plain wrong in my book).
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I agree with most regions being very much chalk. while there are 15-20 teams that can win the whole thing IMO, there is quite a dropoff after those teams.
the West, on the other hand, could be a mishmash of craziness.
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I think it's going to happen, I wouldn't be surprised if it happened within the next 7-10 years.
If they don't shorten the shot clock, or mess with NBA eligibility rules again, I think that keeps the hope alive. These games are only 40 minutes. Of all the pro and college major sports, that seems to be the shortest. Anyone can hang around. From there it just takes some hot shooting and a bit of luck.
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I think you need a 16seed that relies completely on 3pt shooting and is good enough on defense. If they happen to get hot, then anything can happen (those are also the teams most likely to get blown out if they aren't shooting hot).
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Butler v. Bucknell might be one of the better 1st round matchups, but I'm not betting against Stevens in the tourney.
I don't know as much about college basketball as you guys, but I definitely know that one.
If they lose, I will live with it, but that guy seems like he always has his kids ready.
I can't bet against Brad Stevens either, he beat Gonzaga and Indiana but I like Bucknell
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Haven't read anything but the title of this thread.
I loooove March Madness - the best sporting event in our country. Such a great time for all of us. I can't help but think of some of the tournaments of years gone by, and who was playing and who my family, friends and I were rooting for.
I'll never forget watching the 2008 tourney with my dad. -Watching Tyler Hansborough and NC getting blown out, cutting down a big lead, and then losing. Then watching the championship game in OT. My dad passed a couple weeks later.
Eddy and Charles O'bannon from UCLA back in 1995.
Of course, the Fab 5 vs. NC back in 1993 ( I always remember Eric Montross but nobody else from the NC squad)
Then, there was 1989. My oldest sister enrolled at Xavier University back in the fall of 1989. The Spring of 1990 was my first experience watching the Tourney ( I was in 6th grade ). I'll never forget watching Tyrone Hill, Derek Strong and co. from Xavier beat Georgetown to advance to the sweet sixteen. I remember watching the game, feverishly rooting for Xavier. - Then the next game, Lance Blanks (I'll never forget his name) having the game of his life as Texas beat Xavier.
My first ever experience with the tourney was back in the spring of 1986. When Cleveland State advanced to the Sweet 16 and nearly made the Elite 8. I was in second grade, participating in a wrestling tournament. My dad was walking around with his mini sony tv, watching the game. - Mouse Mcfadden, a name I will never forget.
Awesome. Can't wait.
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Creighton is extremely well coached. I'd be surprised to see Cinci pull that one off.
I don't think Creighton has faced a long athletic team that plays defense like Cincinnati this year, and Creighton doesn't play defense.
I can see Cincinnati having a chance if they avoid those 8 to 10 minute scoring droughts. But I wouldn't be surprised to see them lose the way they have played the past month and a half.
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From national champs to struggling with Robert Morris in the first round of the NIT 
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I just started watching so Kentucky will probably go on a big run.
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Sorry top - though I'm sure many UK fans are happy this season is over - been awhile since Johnny C had a season as ugly as this one
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Kentucky getting bounced from the NIT in Round 1 by Robert Morris. Can't get any funnier than that! Poetic justice for 1 and Done University this year!
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Kentucky getting bounced from the NIT in Round 1 by Robert Morris. Can't get any funnier than that! Poetic justice for 1 and Done University this year!
that is funny. cannot decide if it's funnier than Texas not even getting invited to the NIT, while Stephen F. Austin University did.
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Stephen F Austin can ball on defense
I've said this the last two years. Whoever came up with the idea of having games on different channels is a genius. No idea why it took so long.
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If I can get an Elite 8, Final Four, National Championship, NIT in every 4 year span, I'll take it. "1 and Done University" Creative  Don't be upset because we bring in top talent every year (Yes, this year it didn't work, but see the previous 3) What do you want Calipari to do? Recruit guys who aren't as good because they'll be around longer? That's absurd. For the record, Calipari HATES the one and done rule, but it's not his rule. Hell, it's not even a college rule, it's an NBA rule. He's gonna recruit the best players he can get. This idea that he should recruit more 4 year players is ridiculous. "Well, player A is great prospect, he can run the floor, play defense, and score from anywhere on the floor.... And player B, well he's just not as good as player A, but that means I get his 4 points per game for FOUR YEARS! BETTER GO WITH PLAYER B!" Really think about that.
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I think he's full of crap when he says that. Kind of like how he said last year him and Pitino are fine.
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So you think Calipari doesn't wish he had John Wall, Eric Bledsoe, Demarcus Cousins, as Seniors on this years team?
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So you think Calipari doesn't wish he had John Wall, Eric Bledsoe, Demarcus Cousins, as Seniors on this years team?
That's not what I meant and you know it.
If it wasn't for the one and done rule those guys would have never foot on Kentucky.
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I've said this the last two years. Whoever came up with the idea of having games on different channels is a genius. No idea why it took so long.
The free online access is awesome too. Can click between games with ease. I love the entire setup and how fan friendly it is.
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And Julius Randle commits to Kentucky.
Everyone, get your shots in now, cuz it's over next year.
G - Andrew Harrison
G - Aaron Harrison
F - James Young
F - Julius Randle
C - Dakari Johnson
Marcus Lee and Kyle Wiltjer at minimum coming back. Although I expect Goodwin and Poythress back, as well. Plus Andrew Wiggins still out there to decide.
If Calipari is ever going to have his undefeated season, it might be next year.
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We'll be pre-season top 3 and have just as much talent as anyone in the country.
PG - Ryan Harrow
SG - Archie Goodwin
SF - Alex Poythress
PF - Kyle Wiltjer (possibly Anthony Bennett)
C - Nerlens Noel
Not real deep, but we weren't deep this year. If we add Bennett, our top 6 is as good as anybody.
you didn't get Bennett but your top5 was not worthy of such status either.
are you still happy you didn't get Shabazz?
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Nothing I said in that post was wrong, either. We were top 3 in the country when the pre-season polls were announced. We did have just as much talent as anyone. It just didn't mesh. That won't be a problem next year because we WILL have depth (which I said in my post we didn't have this year) which means anyone with the "me-first" attitude just won't play next year. So, I don't get what was wrong with that post? And yes, I am happy that we didn't get Shabazz. We'll have this talk in a couple years when the NCAA comes knockin' on UCLA's door about that.
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i was just messing with you. the issue with the 1-and-dones is that you'll have some years where things don't work out right and they are brutal on the court. it's pretty impressive that Cal was able to go as long as he did without a year like that (including Memphis).
on Shabazz, it sounds like Howland will be gone anyway (as I don't think UCLA gets too far without their PG). we'll see if the NCAA bothers with them even if there is something there to dig on.
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It wasn't just that "they didn't mesh" certain guys were just overrated, it happens.
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Harrow was overrated.
Everyone else was what we thought they were (Denny Green voice)
Goodwin has TONS of talent, just didn't buy into the system, played wreckless and was selfish.
Poythress, again has tons of talent, but he passive and looked like he didn't wanna be there all year.
Wiltjer actually improved his game and became more of an all around threat offensively.
Noel is a top 3 NBA draft pick.
Cauley-Stein was a big surprise, and for a guy who was supposed to be a project, played himself into a lottery pick, if he decides to leave.
This teams' problems had zero to do with lacking talent.
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as long as it's not the Cavs, I cannot wait for a team to draft Poythress in the top10 on projections just to see him flame out there too.
one more for Dumars?
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Do either La Salle or Boise St have a shot at KSU? I'm not all that blown away by their resume.
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No, it's a travesty that one of those teams will be credited with an NCAA tournament win tonight.
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Harrow was overrated.
Everyone else was what we thought they were (Denny Green voice)
Goodwin has TONS of talent, just didn't buy into the system, played wreckless and was selfish.
Poythress, again has tons of talent, but he passive and looked like he didn't wanna be there all year.
Wiltjer actually improved his game and became more of an all around threat offensively.
Noel is a top 3 NBA draft pick.
Cauley-Stein was a big surprise, and for a guy who was supposed to be a project, played himself into a lottery pick, if he decides to leave.
This teams' problems had zero to do with lacking talent.
Oh, so they were an AAU High School team that didn't know how to play basketball. If you can't play as a team player I don't consider you much of a basketball player. Take that "and 1" streetball crap to the streets.
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I think the issues with getting all those super talented guys on one team is that for essentially their entire lives they were by far the best player on the court and their respective teams ran through them. When you get them all together, it's hard for them to play as a team since they've pretty much never done that. I think that's the problem when you have the "All Star" team, especially when they are "one and done". It gives you all the talent in the world, but no time to make them a TEAM, so you really have to catch lightning in a bottle to make sure those guys click.
I think Kentucky will have a very talented team next year, but I just don't know if their talent will result into a successful season - especially an undefeated season.
I think pretty much every player can benefit from 2 years of college, even if it's just so they can learn to play as a part of a team. JMO.
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Harrow was overrated.
Everyone else was what we thought they were (Denny Green voice)
Goodwin has TONS of talent, just didn't buy into the system, played wreckless and was selfish.
Poythress, again has tons of talent, but he passive and looked like he didn't wanna be there all year.
Wiltjer actually improved his game and became more of an all around threat offensively.
Noel is a top 3 NBA draft pick.
Cauley-Stein was a big surprise, and for a guy who was supposed to be a project, played himself into a lottery pick, if he decides to leave.
This teams' problems had zero to do with lacking talent.
Oh, so they were an AAU High School team that didn't know how to play basketball. If you can't play as a team player I don't consider you much of a basketball player. Take that "and 1" streetball crap to the streets.
I'll never guarantee a group of freshmen will click the way Calipari hopes for. Matter of fact, I've always said, you can only do this so long before you eventually get one that doesn't work.
But, you said they didn't have equal talent. That's false.
Everyone is real quick to jump right back on the "You can't win with young players!!!!" bandwagon after one bad year.
Elite 8, Final Four, National Championship with mostly young players says otherwise.
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Creighton, Butler and Xavier to the Big East.
Solid additions.
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Solid additions.
I agree, but why are Dayton and St.Louis left out in the cold?
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