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Surprised Eifert (sp??? ND TE) hasn't been taken yet? Kid is a stud in this growing TE miss match era.

JMHO

Visionary EO, he just went at 26 to the Packers

Still no Geno, there has been some trade chatter app²rently, but nothing has happened yet

I'd be extremely upset as a Vikings fan with this draft.

The strength of this team was our DLine. We just added more DLine in free agency.
I cannot tell you how sick it would make me to invest even more this highly in DLine.

Someday, we'll actually invest in LBers.... of course, as soon as we do, we'll change schemes and render the player moot, so it doesn't much matter.

Django...why have you not traded Sheard yet??? Are you not allowed to trade players?

Because he's trying to trade Rubin first, like I told him to!

@EO no, we can't trade players and I would not want us to trade him even if we go with pass rusher at 6

Update....Geno is gone to the....

1st round:

#1 Chiefs – Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M
#2 Jags – Dion Jordan, DE, Oregon
#3 Raiders – Sharrif Floyd, DT, Florida
#4 Eagles – Eric Fisher, OT, CMU
#5 Lions – Dee Milliner, CB, Alabama
#6 Browns – Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU
#7 Cards – Lane Johnson, OT, Oklahoma
#8 Bills – Jarvis Jones, DE/OLB, Georgia
#9 Jets – Matt Barkley, QB, USC
#10 Titans – Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah
#11 Bucs (fom Chargers) – Xavier Rhodes, CB, Florida State
#12 Dolphins – Tavon Austin, WR, West Virginia
#13 Chargers (from Bucs) – Chance Warmack, OG, Alabama
#14 Panthers – Sheldon Richardson, DT, Mizzou
#15 Saints – Barkevious Mingo, DE, LSU
#16 Rams - Kenny Vaccaro, S, Texas
#17 Steelers - Desmond Trufant, CB, Washington
#18 Cowboys – Jonathan Cooper, OG, UNC
#19 Giants - Cornelius Carradine, DE, FSU
#20 Bears - Alec Ogletree, ILB, Georgia
#21 Vikings (from Bengals) – Cordarelle Patterson, WR, Tennessee
#22 Lions (from Skins via Rams) - Björn Werner, DE, FSU
#23 Bengals (from Vikings) - Justin Hunter, WR, Tennessee
#24 Colts - Keenan Allen, WR, Cal
#25 Vikings (from Seahawks) - Arthur Brown, OLB, Kansas State
#26 Packers - Tyler Eifert, TE, Notre Dame
#27 Texans - Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia
#28 Broncos – Manti Te'o, LB, Notre Dame
#29 Patriots - DeAndre Hopkins, WR, Clemson
#30 Falcons - Jonathan Banks, CB, Mississippi State
#31 49ers - Jonathan Cyprien, FS, FIU
#32 Ravens - Kevin Minter, LB, LSU

2nd round:

#33 Jags - DJ Fluker, OT, Alabama
#34 49ers (from Chiefs) - Jesse Williams, NT, Alabama

The arm length has nothing to do with it. A friend at work was telling me he thought they were moving Reiff inside to guard. That the case? Either way, I see almost no way they pass on Fisher if he's there.

Just a head's up:

The Chargers are switching to a zone-blocking scheme this offseason, and Cooper's a much better fit for it than Warmack. So I would personally switch Warmack and Cooper between the Cowboys and Chargers.

Just a suggestion.

FYI, I just pick for the Browns...the other picks are done by other armchair-GMs

Here's an update:

2nd round:

#33 Jags - DJ Fluker, OT, Alabama
#34 49ers (from Chiefs) - Jesse Williams, DT, Alabama
#35 Dolphins (from Eagles) - Menelik Watson, OT, FSU
#36 Rams (from Lions) - Barrett Jones, OC, Alabama
#37 Bengals (from Raiders) – Matt Elam, S, Florida
#38 Cards - Damontre Moore, DE, Texas A&M

Philly traded their #35 to the Dolphins for #42+#111+#224

You forgot to put in there 38B

Gordon WR - Salt Lake City Rehab facility.

We got a steal as long as he stays clean.

Update:

2nd round:

#33 Jags - DJ Fluker, OT, Alabama
#34 49ers (from Chiefs) - Jesse Williams, DT, Alabama
#35 Dolphins (from Eagles) - Menelik Watson, OT, FSU
#36 Rams (from Lions) - Barrett Jones, OC, Alabama
#37 Bengals (from Raiders) – Matt Elam, S, Florida
#38 Cards - Damontre Moore, DE, Texas A&M
### Browns pick forfeit ###
#39 49ers - Datone Jones, DE, UCLA
#40 Titans - Larry Warford, OG, Kentucky
#41 Bills - EJ Manuel, QB, FSU
#42 Eagles - Margus Hunt, DE, SMU
#43 Bucs - Kawann Short, DT, Purdue
#44 Panthers - Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State
### Saints pick forfeit ###
#45 Chargers - Jamar Taylor, CB, Boise State
#46 Rams - Eddie Lacy, RB, Alabama
#47 Cowboys – Johnathan Hankins, DT, Ohio State
#48 Steelers - Terrance Williams, WR, Baylor
#49 Giants - Sylvester Williams, DT, UNC

Wow... Moore went at #38?? That doesn't seem like a reasonable drop, does it? I don't watch much college football and, therefore, am certainly not a draftnik by any stretch of the imagination. However, I would think some team will take a pass rusher with this guy's resume some time in the 1st. No?

Update:

2nd round:

#33 Jags - DJ Fluker, OT, Alabama
#34 49ers (from Chiefs) - Jesse Williams, DT, Alabama
#35 Dolphins (from Eagles) - Menelik Watson, OT, FSU
#36 Rams (from Lions) - Barrett Jones, OC, Alabama
#37 Bengals (from Raiders) – Matt Elam, S, Florida
#38 Cards - Damontre Moore, DE, Texas A&M
### Browns pick forfeit ###
#39 40ers - Datone Jones, DE, UCLA
#40 Titans - Larry Warford, OG, Kentucky
#41 Bills - EJ Manuel, QB, FSU
#42 Eagles - Margus Hunt, DE, SMU
#43 Bucs - Kawann Short, DT, Purdue
#44 Panthers - Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State
### Saints pick forfeit ###
#45 Chargers - Jamar Taylor, CB, Boise State
#46 Rams - Eddie Lacy, RB, Alabama
#47 Cowboys – Johnathan Hankins, DT, Ohio State
#48 Steelers - Terrance Williams, WR, Baylor
#49 Giants - Sylvester Williams, DT, UNC
#50 Bears - Kyle Long, OG, Oregon
#51 Jets (from Skins) - Zach Ertz, TE, Stanford
#52 Vikings - Johnathan Jenkins, DT, Georgia
#53 Bengals – Giovani Bernard, RB, UNC

QB Nassib, WR Woods, WR Patton, DE Okafor still available....I'm thinking about an uptrade for QB Nassib or WR Patton, but I feel handcuffed by our FO for not going after a DB....to be put in a "drafting for need" situation at #68 is just stupid

Bummer that Okafor could still be available when you pick.

If Woods is available, you HAVE to take him, right?

I won't have to think about it as Okafor-Woods-K.Greene and now Patton went 54 to 57...

but trading up for Nassib still looks enticing, otoh I cant really go there considering our holes at CB and FS, right?

Due to mock rules the Colt-trade won't be reflected anymore btw, so I still have only 6 picks overall, not 7, so a small trade down is still a possibility too...targets include Swearinger, Gratz, Kelce, Mathieu, Wreh-Wilson, St.Bailey, L.Jones, Gragg....if I can get two of those, I'd be pretty happy

Maybe 3 - swearinger, 4 - Webster, 5 - Gragg

you should offer your 6th to SF for the move-up pick and their 7th. they might want to reflect the real selections as well.

Just some names that i don't see picked yet. How about OT Terron Armstead? He tore up the combine and i think he would look good at LG next to Joe Thomas plus he could be Joe's backup. or OG Brian Winters? or CBs David Amerson or Logan Ryan?

yeah, Amerson and Ryan should definitely be in play at 68!

I'd be surprised if Armstead makes it past Baltimore's 2nd.

I'm not very high on Ryan...didn't like what I saw, he's a reactonary zone-CB only imho and I cringed a little when I read that we worked him out. He's smart but like Poyer he's a CB/FS tweener....and not in a good way. Lacks the coverage abilty to become a good CB and lacks either size or tackling ability to be a true FS....Amerson is in the same boat just with reversed strengths/weakness as he has the size/speed/athleticism but lacks the tackling for FS and smarts for CB

I really don't want to draft either of them

Here's the update:

2nd round:

#33 Jags - DJ Fluker, OT, Alabama
#34 49ers (from Chiefs) - Jesse Williams, DT, Alabama
#35 Dolphins (from Eagles) - Menelik Watson, OT, FSU
#36 Rams (from Lions) - Barrett Jones, OC, Alabama
#37 Bengals (from Raiders) – Matt Elam, S, Florida
#38 Cards - Damontre Moore, DE, Texas A&M
### Browns pick forfeit ###
#39 40ers - Datone Jones, DE, UCLA
#40 Titans - Larry Warford, OG, Kentucky
#41 Bills - EJ Manuel, QB, FSU
#42 Eagles - Margus Hunt, DE, SMU
#43 Bucs - Kawann Short, DT, Purdue
#44 Panthers - Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State
### Saints pick forfeit ###
#45 Chargers - Jamar Taylor, CB, Boise State
#46 Rams - Eddie Lacy, RB, Alabama
#47 Cowboys – Johnathan Hankins, DT, Ohio State
#48 Steelers - Terrance Williams, WR, Baylor
#49 Giants - Sylvester Williams, DT, UNC
#50 Bears - Kyle Long, OG, Oregon
#51 Jets (from Skins) - Zach Ertz, TE, Stanford
#52 Vikings - Johnathan Jenkins, DT, Georgia
#53 Bengals – Giovani Bernard, RB, UNC
#54 Dolphins (from Colts) - Alex Okafor, DE, Texas
#55 Packers - Robert Woods, WR, USC
#56 Seahawks - Khaseem Greene, OLB, Rutgers
#57 Texans - Quinton Patton, WR, LT
#58 Broncos – Sam Montgomery, DE, LSU
#59 Patriots - Markus Wheaton, WR, Oregon State
#60 Falcons - Cory Lemonier, DE/OLB, Auburn
#61 Redskins (from 49ers via Jets) - B.W. Webb, CB, William & Mary

I am not a Nassib fan. I probably wouldn't take him if he fell to our spot in the 3rd. I am definitely not trading up for him.

I agree with Jester on that one. If it comes down to djs vs bww I'd take djs without question. You're more likely to get a good corner in the fourth than a free safety you like. With Ryan, Amerson, Alford, Gratz, and Webster still available, you have good options for #2 corner later, but who will you take at free safety?

Huddle up folks....the Ravens took WR S.Bailey at the end of the 2nd. Chiefs took FS E.Reid and JAX went with QB Glennon...3 more picks and then it's my turn

What do you think of DJ Hayden, CB from Houston. I don't really know much about him but I have read taht he has first round talent.

Alford Cb SE Louisiana or Amerson Cb NCST.

I see Amerson as more of a FS

I have just agreed to a deal with the Chargers at #76, but there's some confusion now as he thought he was otc, but the Eagles haven't picked yet...I guess it is a pending trade now, if the Eagles don't pick his target I will get picks #76 + #145 + #221...an extra mid 5th and mid 7th

That would be awesome.

Eagles picked OLB J.Collins and my trade with the Chargers is official

Update:

2nd round:

#33 Jags - DJ Fluker, OT, Alabama
#34 49ers (from Chiefs) - Jesse Williams, DT, Alabama
#35 Dolphins (from Eagles) - Menelik Watson, OT, FSU
#36 Rams (from Lions) - Barrett Jones, OC, Alabama
#37 Bengals (from Raiders) – Matt Elam, S, Florida
#38 Cards - Damontre Moore, DE, Texas A&M
### Browns pick forfeit ###
#39 40ers - Datone Jones, DE, UCLA
#40 Titans - Larry Warford, OG, Kentucky
#41 Bills - EJ Manuel, QB, FSU
#42 Eagles - Margus Hunt, DE, SMU
#43 Bucs - Kawann Short, DT, Purdue
#44 Panthers - Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State
### Saints pick forfeit ###
#45 Chargers - Jamar Taylor, CB, Boise State
#46 Rams - Eddie Lacy, RB, Alabama
#47 Cowboys – Johnathan Hankins, DT, Ohio State
#48 Steelers - Terrance Williams, WR, Baylor
#49 Giants - Sylvester Williams, DT, UNC
#50 Bears - Kyle Long, OG, Oregon
#51 Jets (from Skins) - Zach Ertz, TE, Stanford
#52 Vikings - Johnathan Jenkins, DT, Georgia
#53 Bengals – Giovani Bernard, RB, UNC
#54 Dolphins (from Colts) - Alex Okafor, DE, Texas
#55 Packers - Robert Woods, WR, USC
#56 Seahawks - Khaseem Greene, OLB, Rutgers
#57 Texans - Quinton Patton, WR, LT
#58 Broncos – Sam Montgomery, DE, LSU
#59 Patriots - Markus Wheaton, WR, Oregon State
#60 Falcons - Cory Lemonier, DE/OLB, Auburn
#61 Redskins (from 49ers via Jets) - B.W. Webb, CB, William & Mary
#62 Ravens - Stedman Bailey, WR, West Virginia

3rd round:

#63 Chiefs - Eric Reid, S, LSU
#64 Jags - Mike Glennon, QB, NC State
#65 Rams (from Lions) - Travis Frederick, G/C, Wisconsin
#66 Raiders - Gavin Escobar, TE, San Diego State
#67 Eagles - Jamie Collins, OLB, Southern Miss
#68 Chargers (from Browns) - Terron Armstead, OT, Arkansas Pine Bluff

Would you trade down even further or too much risk to miss out on Swearinger?

49ers expressed late interest in pick 68...I asked for picks 93+128+157+164 but their GM could not decide. The Seahawks, Texans, Falcons, Packers along with the 9ers have also a boatload of picks left to trade and not much room on their rosters, so I'll target those teams for another deal maybe...I think if M.Ball is still around at pick 76 I could squeeze something out of the Packers at 88, maybe even their 4th (#122)

Not sexy picks...but I like Thorton OG Illinois kid will be a good OG - Long was my hope in the 3rd round but see he was taken in the 2nd. Thorton might be better??? just doesn't get the press.

TE would be a key pick...I think our guys would pick Kasa in this 3rd round. Also is McDonald still available at TE??? as a possible.

Could be a spot for QB...Wilson? Not sure who has been taken...I know Emanuel n Glennon are gone.

Personally, I'd be happy with the two picks you were gifted and take your guy. 88 is a long way away, and if you really like the player, take him. I look at it this way... if he's gone, who do you take at that position?

I agree tab, I really like Thornton at OG as well. I like Mady, too.

Nassib still there? Thought he was taken in the first as most have him hitting the First round now. I got a feeling our FO/Coaching Staff would take him if available in the 3rd. All depends in the real draft how quick Geno n Barckley get taken.

Dallas Thomas...what is his injury status??? Thorton is country Strong!

JMHO

Thanks for the comments EO

I'll add Thornton to my watch list for the last 3 rounds, haven't seen or read much on him yet. As for the TE position: not a fan of Kasa or McDonald at all. I really don't get the McDonald hype, dude didn't even run routes at freaking Rice. All he did was catch screen, I'm not kidding, go watch his tape...he's incredibly raw and a pure project. There's some talent and willingness there, but you have to start from scratch with him and I don't want to be the team that invests 3 years of development into him just to see him leave as a FA...I'd rather be the one that signs him after some other team invested valuable playing and development time in him....he's basically a less athletic and even rawer version of Jordan Cameron imho

That said, not before the 5th round on both McDonald and Kasa and there will be probably other prospects I like more in the 5th

Well, the Titans just picked Swearinger at 70th overall (Pugh to the Cards at #69), they list him as a SS ...he can play both positions though

My no1 option now is to trade further down, although Nassib is very tempting and would be a value move, but I'm not sure he fits the vertical Offense