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weird, since they already signed Bernard Pollard and George Wilson, both who played Strong Safety last year.

Yeah...McDonald I threw in there only cause he was rated so high n available.

Kasa actually we have been investigating him since before the combine. His Coach at college is our new TE Coach. I think he is a target of ours.

What about that kid from Arkansas State...Jones...listed as a Safety but he might have CB prospect written all over him??? Was slated around 4th n 5th round till his Pro Day...fast 40 n 41inch Vert. Leap. Your mock there nobody probably heard of him - so late round steal...lol

Need? I'd be looking at TE n DBs of course.

Just thinking out loud.
Disappointed a bit that you did not join the Board Mock draft

Update:

3rd round:

#63 Chiefs - Eric Reid, S, LSU
#64 Jags - Mike Glennon, QB, NC State
#65 Rams (from Lions) - Travis Frederick, C/OG, Wisconsin
#66 Raiders - Gavin Escobar, TE, San Diego State
#67 Eagles - Jamie Collins, DE/OLB, Southern Miss
#68 Chargers (from Browns) - Terron Armstead, OT, Arkansas Pine Bluff
#69 Cards - Justin Pugh, OG, Syracuse
#70 Titans - D.J. Swearinger, S, South Carolina
#71 Bills - Phillip Thomas, S, Fresno State
#72 Jets - Brian Winters, OG, Kent State
#73 Bucs - Jon Bostic, ILB, Florida
#74 Jets (from Panthers via 49ers) - Chase Thomas, OLB, Stanford
#75 Saints - David Amerson, CB, NC State
#76 Packers (from Chargers via Browns) - Brandon Williams, DT, Missouri Southern State

I traded down again with the Packers to #88 for pick #122. I was offline and sent out some "do it or leave it" deals to several teams and both the Packers and 49ers were interested, but the Packers moved first and got the deal. The 9ers would have sent me #93+#128+#164+#237....I would have probably taken this deal over the Packers' one if I were online, but I'm still happy I got a deal and none of my remaining targets are gone...Gratz, Nassib, Wreh-Wilson, Mathieu, Kelce all still available

3rd round:

#63 Chiefs - Eric Reid, S, LSU
#64 Jags - Mike Glennon, QB, NC State
#65 Rams (from Lions) - Travis Frederick, C/OG, Wisconsin
#66 Raiders - Gavin Escobar, TE, San Diego State
#67 Eagles - Jamie Collins, DE/OLB, Southern Miss
#68 Chargers (from Browns) - Terron Armstead, OT, Arkansas Pine Bluff
#69 Cards - Justin Pugh, OG, Syracuse
#70 Titans - D.J. Swearinger, S, South Carolina
#71 Bills - Phillip Thomas, S, Fresno State
#72 Jets - Brian Winters, OG, Kent State
#73 Bucs - Jon Bostic, ILB, Florida
#74 Jets (from Panthers via 49ers) - Chase Thomas, OLB, Stanford
#75 Saints - David Amerson, CB, NC State
#76 Packers (from Chargers via Browns) - Brandon Williams, DT, Missouri Southern State
#77 Dolphins - Travis Kelce, TE, Cincinnati
#78 Rams - Jordan Reed, TE, Florida
#79 Steelers - Bacarri Rambo, S, Georgia
#80 Cowboys – Sio Moore, LB, UConn
#81 Giants - Josh Evans, S, Florida
#82 Dolphins (from Bears) - Jordan Poyer, CB, Oregon State

5 picks left...hmm, CB Alford, CB Wreh-Wilson, CB Gratz, QB Nassib, OT/G D.Thomas, CB Mathieu still available....my man Shamarko Thomas and RB Ball are also still around....also available but not considering here: WR Swope, WR Dobson, QB Wilson, QB L.Jones, TE V.McDonald, QB Bray, RB Randle, RB Franklin, RB Ellington, OT Bakthiari

Huddle up and list them, scouts

I picked CB Wreh-Wilson at #88, bash away. I went back to the tape on WW, Gratz, Mathieu and L.Ryan and WW's game was the most well rounded imho and best suited for an outside-CB. He adds size to a small Browns backfield...the other 3 CBs are good prospects too and I especially liked Mathieu's tape. Gratz and Ryan were beaten too often for my liking...in fact, Gratz was burned (and looked bad) for 2 TDs vs Louy and Bridgewater, meanwhile WW was a shutdown CB that game. He ALWAYS played the ball, is not a grabby CB like so many (mostly smaller) College CBs are and he blew up a sweeping OL on a run play...impressive, but watch for yourselves:

http://www.youtube.com/v/f7ko5KCYFxA

Here's an update:
3rd round:

#63 Chiefs - Eric Reid, S, LSU
#64 Jags - Mike Glennon, QB, NC State
#65 Rams (from Lions) - Travis Frederick, C/OG, Wisconsin
#66 Raiders - Gavin Escobar, TE, San Diego State
#67 Eagles - Jamie Collins, DE/OLB, Southern Miss
#68 Chargers (from Browns) - Terron Armstead, OT, Arkansas Pine Bluff
#69 Cards - Justin Pugh, OG, Syracuse
#70 Titans - D.J. Swearinger, S, South Carolina
#71 Bills - Phillip Thomas, S, Fresno State
#72 Jets - Brian Winters, OG, Kent State
#73 Bucs - Jon Bostic, ILB, Florida
#74 Jets (from Panthers via 49ers) - Chase Thomas, OLB, Stanford
#75 Saints - David Amerson, CB, NC State
#76 Packers (from Chargers via Browns) - Brandon Williams, DT, Missouri Southern State
#77 Dolphins - Travis Kelce, TE, Cincinnati
#78 Rams - Jordan Reed, TE, Florida
#79 Steelers - Bacarri Rambo, S, Georgia
#80 Cowboys – Sio Moore, LB, UConn
#81 Giants - Josh Evans, S, Florida
#82 Dolphins (from Bears) - Jordan Poyer, CB, Oregon State
#83 Vikings - Robert Alford, CB, SE Louisiana
#84 Bengals – Sean Porter, LB, Texas A&M
#85 Skins - Corey Fuller, WR, VT
#86 Colts - Dallas Thomas, OG, Tennessee
#87 Seahawks - Ryan Nassib, QB, Syracuse
#88 Browns (from Packers) - Blidi Wreh-Wilson, CB, UConn

Kinda glad the Seahawks picked up Nassib (somewhat shocking, but it was a BPA "value" move the GM explained), as I was close to take him and gamble on one of the CBs to drop to me at #104.
I now have 2 picks each in rounds 4, 5 and 6 and one in round 7 (#104, #122, #139, #145, #173, #175, #221). I'm in good position to grab some falling value at QB, WR, TE, OL and even RB, could also see myself draft another CB...I have no clear answers for FS and ILB, but I like some gambles later on like Commings for FS or even "project" TJ McDonald. For ILB I'm eyeing J.Knott

Thoughts?

No Bashing...I thought it was obvious that we should have picked the BEST CB...I have not studied the mid to late round guys..."Study" I like to see entire game films not reports or hilight stuff. I did not this past year. So looks to be the correct pick...your choice is -Wilson kid. Without privy of interview (we brought him here) I would be afraid of taking Mathieu cause that would have been the key.

Ziggy n -Wilson. Possibly what just might happen in theory (maybe not exact same guys)

Still out there for a future pick is OG Thorton - also just a note we have looked into Dallas Thomas kid not sure if its a visit him at his school or after Pro Day or brought him in unnoticed to Berea. No link to confirm so not on the visit thread all I do know is we have shown Interest in him.

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Wrong thread???

Apparently..too tired this morning to know what i'm doing.

I do like Milliner but he's a bit stiff in the hips..but he's the obvious CB..
After that I do like Rhoads to a degree, he's not as fast but maybe more fluid.
Ifthe Browns traded down ,they would take him if they were eyeing a corner and they are very high on him.

Keep a eye on these guys:

U know about Trufant but he's better than what we have now. He likes to fight for the ball and is fluid but lacks top end speed. He may have the best
on the ball skills.
I really like Jonathan Banks..he's lanky, has speed, and is very smooth in his movement.
He's a ballhawk..very underrated.

The thing about these guys, they are physical and like to tackle and most importantly are instinctive..

Some mid-later rd ones I like:

Robert Alford -SE Louisiana
David Amerson NC ST *** he does get burned a lot.
Darius Slay -Miss ST
B.W Webb William & Mary
Leon McFadden SDSU

I am not in the crowd that is enamoured with Mathieu , I don't know if he'll be able to handle the bigger recievers on the outside if he's positioned as a outside corner and not a slot cover man.

One late rounder(5-7) guy to watch for that someone mentioned to me and a few others :
Sheldon Price CB UCLA..he needs to refine his techniques but he could be a good late pickup.

Wre-Wilson? I 'd slot him in the third round .Dude has 4.37 speed, if the Browns were looking for a CB with that second pick and he is there, I would take him instantly.Big corner,I wonder if he is more of a zone cover than a man cover but I think it's just a thing of him and his technique in man coverage in turning his hips and running..it's certainly not a lack of speed but just being flexible enough.

Everybody's sleeping on Kayvon Webster. I think it's a mistake. He can play. Definitely can be a starting second corner, no doubt in my mind.

yeah, along with Hawthorne, Devin Taylor, Brandon Thurmond, Terron Armstead (who was quietly amazing in that game), Chad Bumphis (even before the busted coverage TD), and AJ Francis... these guys looked really good at the Shrine Game.

https://www.dawgtalkers.net/showflat.php?...rue#Post1006453

That's a tough projection for me as all I've seen of him is the Shrine game and the Combine, but the guy plays physical and can get his hands on the ball. 13 PDs the last two years and played (IIRC) an out-and-up really well for a deflection in the Shrine game.

The combine is what it is, but he looked more natural than most of the corners in the drills. Good COD and acceleration. DB drills to me are the best indicator of success of any of the physical activity at the combine.

Update:

3rd round:

#63 Chiefs - Eric Reid, S, LSU
#64 Jags - Mike Glennon, QB, NC State
#65 Rams (from Lions) - Travis Frederick, C/OG, Wisconsin
#66 Raiders - Gavin Escobar, TE, San Diego State
#67 Eagles - Jamie Collins, DE/OLB, Southern Miss
#68 Chargers (from Browns) - Terron Armstead, OT, Arkansas Pine Bluff
#69 Cards - Justin Pugh, OG, Syracuse
#70 Titans - D.J. Swearinger, S, South Carolina
#71 Bills - Phillip Thomas, S, Fresno State
#72 Jets - Brian Winters, OG, Kent State
#73 Bucs - Jon Bostic, ILB, Florida
#74 Jets (from Panthers via 49ers) - Chase Thomas, OLB, Stanford
#75 Saints - David Amerson, CB, NC State
#76 Packers (from Chargers via Browns) - Brandon Williams, DT, Missouri Southern State
#77 Dolphins - Travis Kelce, TE, Cincinnati
#78 Rams - Jordan Reed, TE, Florida
#79 Steelers - Bacarri Rambo, S, Georgia
#80 Cowboys – Sio Moore, LB, UConn
#81 Giants - Josh Evans, S, Florida
#82 Dolphins (from Bears) - Jordan Poyer, CB, Oregon State
#83 Vikings - Robert Alford, CB, SE Louisiana
#84 Bengals – Sean Porter, LB, Texas A&M
#85 Skins - Corey Fuller, WR, VT
#86 Colts - Dallas Thomas, OG, Tennessee
#87 Seahawks - Ryan Nassib, QB, Syracuse
#88 Browns (from Packers) - Blidi Wreh-Wilson, CB, UConn
#89 Texans - DJ Hayden, CB, Houston
#90 Broncos – Andre Ellington, RB, Clemson
#91 Patriots - Logan Ryan, CB, Rutgers
#92 Falcons - Kiko Alonso, ILB, Oregon
#93 49ers - Stepfan Taylor, RB, Stanford
#94 Ravens - Shamarko Thomas, S, Syracuse
comp#95 Texans - Vance McDonald, TE, Rice
comp#96 Chiefs - Cornelius Washington, OLB, Georgia
comp#97 Titans - Ryan Swope, WR, Texas A&M

4th round:

#98 Jags - Da'Rick Rogers, WR, Tennessee Tech
#99 Chiefs - Aaron Dobson, WR, Marshall
#100 Raiders - William Gholston, DE, Michigan State

3 picks left till my next selection. Still available: CB Gratz, CB/FS Mathieu (starting to think he could be a decent FS), QB Wilson, QB Bray, QB L.Jones, RB Ball, RB Randle, OT Bakthiari, OT Mills, OT Faulk, OT B.Williams, OT/G Quessenberry, C/G Schwenke, RB Franklin, DE Simon, S TJ McDonald, CB McFadden, TE Gragg, TE Sims, WR Harper, DT B.Logan, WR Boyce

I will also consider another trade down and 49ers and Seahawks showed some interest if their guy is still there

With Mathieu gone to the Eagles at #101 I took the deal with the 49ers, sending them #104 for picks #128+#164+#180

I now have 9 picks left and 8 to come between 122 and 180 where there will be some nice mid round value throughout imho

The only problem I have with trading down for so many mid round to later picks is this ...... how many of these players can make the Browns?

We already have a ton of that kind of player on the Browns right now. The team has young, decent, "mid-round" type talent in a number of spots.Sooner or later we need some stars to go with the pretty decent types.

Who have you drafted so far?

Ansah and BWW, right? Anyone else?

Update:

4th round:

#98 Jags - Da'Rick Rogers, WR, Tennessee Tech
#99 Chiefs - Aaron Dobson, WR, Marshall
#100 Raiders - William Gholston, DE, Michigan State
#101 Eagles - Tyrann Mathieu, CB, LSU
#102 Vikings (from Lions) - David Quessenberry, OT/OG, San Jose State
#103 Cards - T.J. McDonald, S, USC
#104 49ers (from Browns) - Michael Buchanan, OLB, Illinois
#105 Bills - Cobi Hamilton, WR, Arkansas
#106 Skins (from Jets) - Brian Schwenke, C, Cal
#107 Titans - Kevin Reddick, LB, UNC
#108 Panthers - Duke Williams, S, Nevada
#109 Saints - Brennan Williams, OT, North Carolina
#110 Chargers - Brandon Jenkins, OLB, Florida State
#111 Eagles (from Dolphins) - Matt Scott, QB, Arizona
#112 Chargers (from Bucs) - Montori Hughes, NT, Tennessee-Martin
#113 Rams - Jelani Jenkins, OLB, Florida

8 picks left. It's as if the other GMs try hard to avoid my targets, lol There's some incredible value dropping. The Steelers will get a 2nd/3rd RB gift-wrapped to them (M.Ball, Randle, Franklin), Bray, Wilson, L.Jones and Dysert still available too. So are CBs Gratz and K.Webster....there are 3 WRs left I like: Harper, Boyce and D.Robinson is starting to intrigue me in the 5th. Not a fan of Goodwin and unconvinced by Stills. Lots of options left at TE and for backup OT....only one G/T I like remaining though in Thornton, so maybe I'll secure him in the 4th...haven't made up my mind yet

Thoughts? Would any of you just go BPA and draft Ball or Randle? I posted my remaining picks last post...what's the smartest tactic to get the best combination of players?

I am a firm believer in getting the best possible players late in the draft. That can be from a productivity standpoint, or a perceived upside, but drafting for need late in a draft is useless.

I believe that Norv has generally kept 5 backs (RB + FB) in most of his stops. Ball would be a fine addition, and could allow us to trade either Hardesty or Ogbonnaya for some value if a team loses a RB in camp.

Quality players find the field, one way or another. Scrubs remain scrubs, even if they are forced to play. I would go for a really good player at a position we have "stacked", as opposed to a lesser player who won't make a positive contribution, even though he plays a position we need help at.

Bummer missing out on Brandon Jenkins in the 4th. There's a reason FSU had him in front of Carradine before he was injured.

If you're planning on taking one of those wideouts, I'd take them next... specifically (I'm assuming Josh) Boyce or Chris Harper.

Guys I really like that would fit our team that are available late:

Brandon Sharpe, OLB Syracuse {will at least be available in 6th}
Quanterus Smith, OLB Western Kentucky {will be gone in 5th}
David Bass, OLB Missouri Western {5th/6th}
Ja'Gared Davis, OLB SMU (bonus: played OLB in a 3-4 in college) {likely available in 7th}
Walter Stewart, OLB Cincy {6th/7th... Mayock said top 10 if healthy}
Armonty Bryant, OLB East Central (put him on the left side and watch him work) {who knows? 5th to UDFA depending on how close your guys pay attention}

Jordan Campbell, ILB New Mexico Highlands (eye-popping numbers, showed strong at All-Star game vs. FBS competition, then unreal Pro Day numbers ) {actually has a big internet following... I can tell by traffic patterns on my site... could be 5th}
Taylor Reed, ILB SMU (played ILB in 3-4 in college, along with Hunt & Davis, 3 draftable defenders) {likely UDFA}
Jonathan Stewart, ILB Texas A&M (played 3-4 in college until last year) {should be 6th}

FS Duke Williams, Nevada {maybe 5th}
Maybe JJ Wilcox can play FS... he's big but looked natural for a safety at combine {maybe 5th}
FS Cody Davis, Texas Tech (played SS in college) {7th - UDFA}
Still haven't gotten to check out NC State FS Brandan Bishop {UDFA}

Kayvon Webster, CB USF {4th}
Terry Hawthorne, CB Illinois {6th}

You've watched all the TEs, but I like Stoneburner {6th}

Lamar Mady, OG YSU (Warmack for cheap... extremely strong) {7th}
Hugh Thornton, OG Illinois {4th/5th}
Earl Watford, OG JMU {7th}
Manase Foketi, OG/OT West Texas A&M (first-team all-american Div II LT) {7th}
Josh Dworaczyk, OG/OT LSU (started at LT after Faulk's injury, played well) {7th-UDFA}

Joe Madsen, C WVU {7th - UDFA}

Braden Wilson, FB KSU {7th -- Monster blocker}

That's why I traded down twice, the value of this draft is in the mid/late rounds. It's a numbers game and you just gotta be patient and let the board come to you...

Nice list Steve...add Eric Martin, Nebraska, to the pass rusher's list

I really like both Boyce and Harper...Harper gives me some M.Sanu flashbacks

Not much left that I like at FS....maybe a 7th flyer on Boyett? Bishop? Guess we have to sign Kerry Rhodes or roll the dice on Gipson

I haven't watched Stoneburner but read good things from draftniks I respect. TE is really deep...not sure why we elected to sign 2 depth players in FA there instead of going the draft route, oh well. I also like Griffin, UConn and Rivera, Tennessee if I miss out on Gragg

Update:

4th round:

#98 Jags - Da'Rick Rogers, WR, Tennessee Tech
#99 Chiefs - Aaron Dobson, WR, Marshall
#100 Raiders - William Gholston, DE, Michigan State
#101 Eagles - Tyrann Mathieu, CB, LSU
#102 Vikings (from Lions) - David Quessenberry, OT/OG, San Jose State
#103 Cards - T.J. McDonald, S, USC
#104 49ers (from Browns) - Michael Buchanan, OLB, Illinois
#105 Bills - Cobi Hamilton, WR, Arkansas
#106 Skins (from Jets) - Brian Schwenke, C, Cal
#107 Titans - Kevin Reddick, LB, UNC
#108 Panthers - Duke Williams, S, Nevada
#109 Saints - Brennan Williams, OT, North Carolina
#110 Chargers - Brandon Jenkins, OLB, Florida State
#111 Eagles (from Dolphins) - Matt Scott, QB, Arizona
#112 Chargers (from Bucs) - Montori Hughes, DT, Tennessee-Martin
#113 Rams - Jelani Jenkins, OLB, Florida
#114 Cowboys – JJ Wilcox, S, Georgia Southern
#115 Steelers - Marcus Lattimore, RB, South Carolina
#116 Giants - Kenny Stills, WR, Oklahoma
#117 Bears - Josh Boyce, WR, TCU
#118 Bengals – Montee Ball, RB, Wisconsin

3 picks to go...my consideration list for the next pick(s): WR Harper, QB Bray, QB Wilson, RB Randle.....I'll probably punt QB L.Jones, TE Gragg, TE Sims, CB Gratz, CB Webster, G/T Thornton, T/G Mills to the 5th for now....along with a boatload of OL falling (Bakthiari, Aboushi, Bailey, Faulk)

Thoughts?

Signing Nelson, I'd skip Harper.

ouch... missed out on Duke Williams, Kevin Reddick, Brandon Jenkins, Montori Hughes (good enough to push someone off the roster, no doubt), JJ Wilcox, MArcus Lattimore, and Jsh Boyce since last trade?

Has Quanterus Smith been taken? David Bass? Maybe Brandon Sharpe?

Probably just go ahead and take Bray. At this point, he's well worth the "risk."

You're kind of in a tough spot at FS now, I think. That's what I saw when I was doing my mock... to get a FS I'm confident in starting, it will have to be in the third round.

*Edit* is John Simon still available?

FYI, I picked RB J.Randle, who was a BPA pick for me at this point with still 8 picks coming up and the last RB left I ranked as a top 3 rounder. I don't trust TRich yet, both his play and health and Hardesty is in his last year of his rookie deal and I don't see him re-signing and Obi, as much as I like him, should never be guaranteed a roster spot.
Randle imho is a good compliment to TRich and a good fit in Chud's Offense. He also has some chemistry going with Weeden. He scored 26 TDs in 2011 with Weeden as his QB. He can run tough, has very good speed/athleticism, is a good receiver and blocker....he's a complete 3 down RB imho, which neither Hardesty nor Obi are in case of a TRich injury


Update:

4th round:

#98 Jags - Da'Rick Rogers, WR, Tennessee Tech
#99 Chiefs - Aaron Dobson, WR, Marshall
#100 Raiders - William Gholston, DE, Michigan State
#101 Eagles - Tyrann Mathieu, CB, LSU
#102 Vikings (from Lions) - David Quessenberry, OT/OG, San Jose State
#103 Cards - T.J. McDonald, S, USC
#104 49ers (from Browns) - Michael Buchanan, OLB, Illinois
#105 Bills - Cobi Hamilton, WR, Arkansas
#106 Skins (from Jets) - Brian Schwenke, C, Cal
#107 Titans - Kevin Reddick, LB, UNC
#108 Panthers - Duke Williams, S, Nevada
#109 Saints - Brennan Williams, OT, North Carolina
#110 Chargers - Brandon Jenkins, OLB, Florida State
#111 Eagles (from Dolphins) - Matt Scott, QB, Arizona
#112 Chargers (from Bucs) - Montori Hughes, DT, Tennessee-Martin
#113 Rams - Jelani Jenkins, OLB, Florida
#114 Cowboys – JJ Wilcox, S, Georgia Southern
#115 Steelers - Marcus Lattimore, RB, South Carolina
#116 Giants - Kenny Stills, WR, Oklahoma
#117 Bears - Josh Boyce, WR, TCU
#118 Bengals – Montee Ball, RB, Wisconsin
#119 Skins - Ty Powell, OLB, Harding
#120 Bengals (from Vikings) - Leon McFadden, CB, San Diego State
#121 Colts - Jonathan Franklin, RB, UCLA
#122 Browns (from Packers) - Joseph Randle, RB, Oklahoma State

Browns-mock so far:

6 DE/OLB Ansah
88 CB Wreh-Wilson
122 RB Randle
128
139
145
164
173
175
180
221

Remaining targets for picks 128+139+145 are QB Wilson, QB Bray, WR Harper....nobody seems to want these QBs, they are dropping hard. Lots of players left that I like at this point of the draft: CB Gratz, CB Webster, CB W.Davis, ILB N.Johnson, QB L.Jones, OT/G Bakthiari, OT/G Mills, OT Faulk, G Bailey, G/T Thornton, TE Gragg, TE Sims, DT Logan (would have been my pick if we were still in a 4-3, not sure about him as a 5T DE, he'd be Winn-like)...some nice 5th/6th round value

any updates?

4th round:

#98 Jags - Da'Rick Rogers, WR, Tennessee Tech
#99 Chiefs - Aaron Dobson, WR, Marshall
#100 Raiders - William Gholston, DE, Michigan State
#101 Eagles - Tyrann Mathieu, CB, LSU
#102 Vikings (from Lions) - David Quessenberry, OT/OG, San Jose State
#103 Cards - T.J. McDonald, S, USC
#104 49ers (from Browns) - Michael Buchanan, OLB, Illinois
#105 Bills - Cobi Hamilton, WR, Arkansas
#106 Skins (from Jets) - Brian Schwenke, C, Cal
#107 Titans - Kevin Reddick, LB, UNC
#108 Panthers - Duke Williams, S, Nevada
#109 Saints - Brennan Williams, OT, North Carolina
#110 Chargers - Brandon Jenkins, OLB, Florida State
#111 Eagles (from Dolphins) - Matt Scott, QB, Arizona
#112 Chargers (from Bucs) - Montori Hughes, DT, Tennessee-Martin
#113 Rams - Jelani Jenkins, OLB, Florida
#114 Cowboys – JJ Wilcox, S, Georgia Southern
#115 Steelers - Marcus Lattimore, RB, South Carolina
#116 Giants - Kenny Stills, WR, Oklahoma
#117 Bears - Josh Boyce, WR, TCU
#118 Bengals – Montee Ball, RB, Wisconsin
#119 Skins - Ty Powell, OLB, Harding
#120 Bengals (from Vikings) - Leon McFadden, CB, San Diego State
#121 Colts - Johnathan Franklin, RB, UCLA
#122 Browns (from Packers) - Joseph Randle, RB, OK State
#123 Seahawks - Lavar Edwards, DE, LSU
#124 Seahawks (from Texans) - Oday Aboushi, OT, Virginia
#125 Broncos – Will Davis, CB, Utah State
#126 Chargers (from Patriots via Bucs) - David Bakhtiari, OT, Colorado
#127 Falcons - Alvin Bailey, OG, Arkansas
#128 Browns (from 49ers) - Chris Harper, WR, Kansas State
#129 Ravens - Bennie Logan, DT, LSU
comp#130 Ravens - Jordan Mills, OT, Louisiana Tech
comp#131 49ers
comp#132 Lions
comp#133 Falcons

As you can see, I picked Harper. He was the last WR I really liked and has great value at the end of the 4th imho. He's similar in style to G.Little and M.Sanu and thus has Boldin/Ward upside, as in tough, poss-WR. He can play both inside and outside and that flexibility was another factor as I don't see any WR left who could play both. He's a former running-QB with 2.5years of WR-experience now. He was clearly the go to guy for QB Klein, who was all over the place with his throws. Harper has improved each season and has tons of upside left.
Norwood, Cooper and a rehabbing Nelson should not be guaranteed roster spots imho. If they all have a good TC, we could opt to keep 6 WR, more and more teams do it. Since Benjamin is strictly a no4/RET guy and not tough enough for the slot, Harper could compete from day 1 for playing time there although I consider one of Norwood or Nelson to win it in his rookie year

...with that, my mock looks like this so far:

6 DE/OLB Ansah
88 CB Wreh-Wilson
122 RB Randle
128 WR Harper
139
145
164
173
175
180
221

QBs keep dropping but I expect a run at them soon. Since I'm not enamoured with any of them, I can live with any of Wilson, Bray, L.Jones or Dysert, but prefer Bray and Jones due to scheme fit and potential to groom.

On guy I really think you should consider at ILB is Taylor Reed from SMU. He's not a big pounder guy like Nico Johnson, but frankly I think the talent and size on our DL affords us the luxury of having versatile playmaking-type LBs inside, not having to worry about FB neutralizers. Reed is a tackling machine and has really improved his pass defense skills... three picks (including a pick-6) and 5 pass deflections last year. He's also a good interior rusher with 6.5 sacks last year. You can almost certainly get him with your last pick, which adds overall value to your draft, as for whatever reason he is so far off the radar that cbs doesn't even have them in their top 750. Their parent database NFLDraftScout has him rated 891st behind really awful players. I don't know what they're seeing.

Here are the Pro Day results in case you want to see them for Ja'Gared Davis (who played OLB in SMU's 3-4) and Taylor Reed. I still think Jordan Campbell is the best choice of all of them, but I understand if you don't want to go out on a limb for a New Mexico Highlands guy.

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Taylor Reed, LB (5-11 1/4, 240) — Reed ran the 40 in 4.75 seconds against the wind and 4.68 seconds with the wind. He had a 30 1/2-inch vertical jump and a 9-foot-9 broad jump. He did the short shuttle in 4.23 seconds and the three-cone drill in 7.22 seconds. He also threw the bar up 29 times on the bench press (225 pounds).

Ja’Gared Davis, LB (6-0, 238) — Davis ran the 40 in 4.82 seconds against the wind and 4.78 seconds with the wind. He had a 32 1/2-inch vertical jump and 9-foot-9 broad jump. He did the short shuttle in 4.42 seconds and the three-cone drill in 7.26 seconds. He also had 14 strength lifts.

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http://blogs.nfl.com/2013/03/27/margus-hunt-is-worked-out-by-rex-ryan-at-pro-day/

Here are the defensive stats for SMU. You can change the year in the address bar to see previous years' stats for these guys. Davis I think is a stud LB but might be a bit undersized as a 3-4 OLB. He can play 4-3 OLB, though, and probably 3-4 ILB at a high level.

http://www.smumustangs.com/sports/m-footbl/stats/2012-2013/teamcume.html#TEAM.DEF

Update, 4th round just completed:

4th round:

#98 Jags - Da'Rick Rogers, WR, Tennessee Tech
#99 Chiefs - Aaron Dobson, WR, Marshall
#100 Raiders - William Gholston, DE, Michigan State
#101 Eagles - Tyrann Mathieu, CB, LSU
#102 Vikings (from Lions) - David Quessenberry, OT/OG, San Jose State
#103 Cards - T.J. McDonald, S, USC
#104 49ers (from Browns) - Michael Buchanan, OLB, Illinois
#105 Bills - Cobi Hamilton, WR, Arkansas
#106 Skins (from Jets) - Brian Schwenke, C, Cal
#107 Titans - Kevin Reddick, LB, UNC
#108 Panthers - Duke Williams, S, Nevada
#109 Saints - Brennan Williams, OT, North Carolina
#110 Chargers - Brandon Jenkins, OLB, Florida State
#111 Eagles (from Dolphins) - Matt Scott, QB, Arizona
#112 Chargers (from Bucs) - Montori Hughes, DT, Tennessee-Martin
#113 Rams - Jelani Jenkins, OLB, Florida
#114 Cowboys – JJ Wilcox, S, Georgia Southern
#115 Steelers - Marcus Lattimore, RB, South Carolina
#116 Giants - Kenny Stills, WR, Oklahoma
#117 Bears - Josh Boyce, WR, TCU
#118 Bengals – Montee Ball, RB, Wisconsin
#119 Skins - Ty Powell, OLB, Harding
#120 Bengals (from Vikings) - Leon McFadden, CB, San Diego State
#121 Colts - Johnathan Franklin, RB, UCLA
#122 Browns (from Packers) - Joseph Randle, RB, OK State
#123 Seahawks - Lavar Edwards, DE, LSU
#124 Seahawks (from Texans) - Oday Aboushi, OT, Virginia
#125 Broncos – Will Davis, CB, Utah State
#126 Chargers (from Patriots via Bucs) - David Bakhtiari, OT, Colorado
#127 Falcons - Alvin Bailey, OG, Arkansas
#128 Browns (from 49ers) - Chris Harper, WR, Kansas State
#129 Ravens - Bennie Logan, DT, LSU
comp#130 Ravens - Jordan Mills, OT, Louisiana Tech
comp#131 49ers - Dion Sims, TE, Michigan State
comp#132 Lions - Marquise Goodwin, WR, Texas
comp#133 Falcons - Terry Hawthorne, CB, Illinois

Wilson, Bray, L.Jones and Dysert sill around....after re-watching some more, I've narrowed my choice down to Bray or L.Jones as I don't see the vertical systems as good fits for the others.

Both are pure pocket QBs that need a good pass blocking OL, the Browns have that ready for them. Bray has an incredible arm and trusts it to a fault. He doesn't like to get hit and doesn't constantly step up in the pocket and gives up on plays instead, that's VERY concerning...but then flashes that arm again, it's incredible and pretty accurate on deep throws. Love how he throws it up as soon as he sees a 1on1 matchup deep, true gunslinger. Reads deep to short, but throws it away too often instead of looking longer for dump off.

L.Jones also has a good arm, but he's not the gunslinger Bray is. Good thing he stayed on for his SR season, he improved and got smarter. I like how he moves in the pocket, has some awareness there and steps up most of the time. Looks almost more like a WC QB now but flashes that arm to go deep, not as accurate deep as Bray but good enough. Moves around to fin an open target. Jones is severly over-hated, imho. He has less of a ceiling compared to Bray, but he's more advanced as a QB and thus has a higher floor

One of the QBs, Thornton, Gragg are my targets in the 5th round, but still have an eye on Gratz and Webster who are still around too

Opinions?

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One of the QBs, Thornton, Gragg are my targets in the 5th round, but still have an eye on Gratz and Webster who are still around too

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Sounds good to me

stashing Bray for the year on the bench behind Weeden and Campbell is exactly what he needs. now, we've tried that before (Colt behind Jake & Seneca), but I think Bray would be worth the risk for his upside.

I thought somebody ahead of me in the 5th would relieve me from making this decision, but so far still no QB taken after 3 picks in

5th round

#134 Chiefs - A.J. Klein, LB, Iowa State
#135 Jags - Christine Michael, RB, Tamu
#136 Eagles - Akeem Spence, DT, Illinois

Speed and thus number of picks will pick up with the 5th round....so, 2 picks left and it's my turn again...Bray or Jones? or punt QB to pick 145 and take someone else? I'm undecided....Bray is enticing with his arm strength but Jones is more advanced and plays smarter overall. He also has better pocket awareness...otoh, I like Bray's attacking mentality to go deep often....hmm