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"This is an interesting signing, as Nelson is a big target (6'5") for whoever the Browns have under center to start the 2013-14 season. Nelson is likely going to be worth a late round flier in deeper (14-16 teams) " Link
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SO we sign a guy who is coming off knee injury. Let's hope the doctors examined and put him through the tests well!
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interesting. if he can be back to the player he was 2 years ago, then he's good depth to have on our team.
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I think this could be good.. he won't be expensive and if he works out great and he will end up being a good number 3!
if not... no biggy it's not like he will have a long term deal with a lot of money. He can be a good #5 for 2 years.
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With Gordon and Little as the #1 & #2... and this cat as our #3.... holy smokes that is a BIG set of WR's!
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One of the players I truly wanted this offseason. ACL is no longer the injury that it was. Great size, good hands.
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That is a big set of receivers with Little, Gordon and Nelson. Little is the runt and he is TE size.
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SO we sign a guy who is coming off knee injury. Let's hope the doctors examined and put him through the tests well!
You don't really believe that they didn't to a complete work up on him do you? I mean medically speaking.
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SO we sign a guy who is coming off knee injury. Let's hope the doctors examined and put him through the tests well!
I am sure the MD's at the Cleveland Clinic opted his medical records to some Vet in rural Ohio who specializes in large animals and we don't have any clue if he is healthy.
Come on man. I am pretty sure we checked him out. You make it sound like Haslam brought Granny Clampett to be the team doctor. 
I like David Nelson. As a Gator fan, I watched Nelson makes tons of catches. The kid has GREAT hands and concentration. He catches the ball hands first. A BIG upgrade over MoMass.
Nelson is a guy who will push for play time and make the most of his chances.
If we get him, we have a fairliy serious receiver group. We have legit options on the field at all times.
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He's pretty much replacing Massaquoi on the roster. I'll take Nelson over Massaquoi just because we know what Massaquoi is while Nelson seems to have some potential.
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He's pretty much replacing Massaquoi on the roster. I'll take Nelson over Massaquoi just because we know what Massaquoi is while Nelson seems to have some potential.
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Here are the facts on each:
Mohamed Massaquoi Stats
David Nelson Stats
Both receivers played for so...so QB's/teams, so it is really hard to judge to much using stats. Basically Browns traded a receiver with concussion issues for one who had his ACL repaired. If either one stayed healthy, your looking at a reliable receiver. Nelson has about three inches on MoMass and one less year. I'm assuming Banner is weighting the age factor. Nelson will make for a nice red zone target.
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i dont think he will be our number 3.....
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He's pretty much replacing Massaquoi on the roster. I'll take Nelson over Massaquoi just because we know what Massaquoi is while Nelson seems to have some potential.
You guys tickle me!
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Mohamed Massaquoi Stats
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Both receivers played for so...so QB's/teams, so it is really hard to judge to much using stats. Basically Browns traded a receiver with concussion issues for one who had his ACL repaired. If either one stayed healthy, your looking at a reliable receiver. Nelson has about three inches on MoMass and one less year. I'm assuming Banner is weighting the age factor. Nelson will make for a nice red zone target.
Given the choice between an ACL injury and Scrambled Eggs for brains,, I'll take the ACL.. They can repair that and with Rehab a guy can be as good as new. But getting your noggin beat down, that's something that they are having a great deal of trouble dealing with.
Side by side, their stats aren't totally different.
But Nelson has size and a repaired/repairable ACL and MoMass has what I would call, a bigger problem. I hope that's the difference.
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You don't really believe that they didn't to a complete work up on him do you? I mean medically speaking.
I'm sure that is mandatory, but I am also sure there are more detailed tests and workouts that can be done to assure one's mind even more. Either or he is a big target.
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He's probably the last player in FA that qualifies in age. Apparently this FO just signs guys who are 25-27yo..."who cares how good or bad, at least they're not 30" could be their motto
I'm not even hating the signing, it's perfectly ok....I'm just shocked that as of now we seem to be content to open the season with no 30yo player on the roster, that'd be a 1st, right? Oh dang, forgot about Campbell...he and Weeden are the oldest, lol
I give up, I guess bringing in Dansby and Rhodes, 2 quality players at need positions with over 30mil in cap room is too much too ask...or too obvious a thing to do that such geniuses as Joe and Lombo get cute
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I like the signing. I know he is only 215 but add about 10-15 lbs on him could we use him as a tight end on other side cameron?
so for the redzone we will have
Little 6'2"
Gordon 6'3"
Cameron 6'5"
Barnidge 6'5"
Gronkowski 6'5"
Nelson 6'5"
Davis 6'7"
and what db,lb will be able to defend that group
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Nelson was productive before his injury. Its reported that he has very good hands, so he should be dependable. As a one year deal there isn't a lot of risks. I see it as adding depth.
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....and height. Dayumm, we have some giants going up for the ball. This should be fun to watch.
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SO we sign a guy who is coming off knee injury. Let's hope the doctors examined and put him through the tests well!
You don't really believe that they didn't to a complete work up on him do you? I mean medically speaking.
I'm sure that is mandatory, but I am also sure there are more detailed tests and workouts that can be done to assure one's mind even more. Either or he is a big target.
My guess is that he met all the initial criteria or they won't sign him.
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....and height. Dayumm, we have some giants going up for the ball. This should be fun to watch.
Well, we need giants due to all the passes that Weeden sails. We better pick up some midgets too, because he also worm-burns a lot of throws.
Dang.......if only we would get a new qb.....
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....and height. Dayumm, we have some giants going up for the ball. This should be fun to watch.
Well, we need giants due to all the passes that Weeden sails. We better pick up some midgets too, because he also worm-burns a lot of throws.
Dang.......if only we would get a new qb.....
As others have said, you'll probably get your wish.
I don't think weeden will beat out cambell.
We're trying to throw the ball downfield and he checked the ball down to Trent Richardson and the Indians on the choice.
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SO we sign a guy who is coming off knee injury. Let's hope the doctors examined and put him through the tests well!
I am sure the MD's at the Cleveland Clinic opted his medical records to some Vet in rural Ohio who specializes in large animals and we don't have any clue if he is healthy.
Come on man. I am pretty sure we checked him out. You make it sound like Haslam brought Granny Clampett to be the team doctor.
I like David Nelson. As a Gator fan, I watched Nelson makes tons of catches. The kid has GREAT hands and concentration. He catches the ball hands first. A BIG upgrade over MoMass.
Granny Clampett would be a huge upgrade over NoMass!!
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The take away from the article below is Nelson's blocking skills. I got the impression it's not just downfield blocking but also in motion from a H-back position perhaps to help the running attack. He might allow the Browns to do some things with personnel groupings that opponents aren't prepared for.
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Browns Add Wide Receiver Depth With Nelson
APRIL 8TH, 2013
If healthy, David Nelson brings great depth to the Browns’ receiving corps. (photo: sports.espn.go.com)
DraftBrowns.com Editor: Brendan Leister
According to numerous media outlets, the Cleveland Browns have reached an agreement in principle with former Buffalo Bills’ wide receiver David Nelson on a one-year deal. To begin Nelson’s career, he signed with the Bills as an undrafted free agent after the 2010 NFL Draft. In 32 career games played, Nelson has started in 17 (which is impressive when you consider his status as an undrafted free agent). The Florida Gator has produced 94 catches, 1,042 yards, and eight touchdowns in his short career. Nelson turns 27 years old in November.
After a productive 2011 season in which David Nelson caught 61 passes for 658 yards and five touchdowns in 13 starts, the aforementioned Nelson seemed to be poised for a breakout season in 2012. However, that breakout season never materialized as he suffered a torn ACL during week one of the 2012 season against the New York Jets. Nelson has been rehabbing since the injury and he is expected to be at 100 percent by the beginning of training camp.
During David Nelson’s career, he has spent much of his time as a slot receiver. He also has some experience lining up on the outside as both an X and Z receiver. In his time in Buffalo, Nelson was put in motion quite often. The Bills would motion him across the formation, from outside the numbers to the slot, from the slot to an h-back position, and even from the slot to the backfield. It became evident quickly in watching how Nelson was used that the Bills were very confident in his ability as a blocker. When motioned into the backfield and as an h-back, Nelson was often asked to help out in pass protection. He did a solid job overall in this area. Nelson’s versatility could potentially aid the Browns in being unpredictable with their combination of play calling and personnel groupings.
As a receiver, David Nelson can best be described as a “big, prototypical possession receiver”. At 6’5″ tall and 217 lbs., Nelson has a large frame that he uses to gain position on defenders and to create separation. Nelson has good build-up speed, but he will never be mistaken for a burner or a vertical threat. On third downs and in the red zone are the two areas where Nelson’s presence is felt most. His ability to find soft spots in zones combined with his size and great hands make him a tough matchup in the middle of the field.
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I like this signing. If he's healthy and able to go he's a nice addition.
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46 is a ton?
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Excellent signing. Kid is big, quick for his size with huge upside.
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I think 'Peen was referring to his career in college....
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I like this, he's tall and has phenomal hands
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We're looking at him pre-ACL injury.
We'll see how he does during his first year after the ACL. It's possible he won't fully get his confidence back until later in the season. Or next year.
Then again, maybe he'll pull a Welker and be a beast. That's rare though.
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Yea, I know. He caught 46 at Florida.
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Yea, I know. He caught 46 at Florida.
If that's the number, that's the number. What stands out is the number of times his number was called on 3rd and long. I just recall him making big catches at big moments to move the chains.
All that aside, his numbers at Buffalo are more important. Those can't be ignored. They were as good as any receiver we have. Not a bad signing by any means.
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I'm not even hating the signing, it's perfectly ok....I'm just shocked that as of now we seem to be content to open the season with no 30yo player on the roster, that'd be a 1st, right? Oh dang, forgot about Campbell...he and Weeden are the oldest, lol
I give up, I guess bringing in Dansby and Rhodes, 2 quality players at need positions with over 30mil in cap room is too much too ask...or too obvious a thing to do that such geniuses as Joe and Lombo get cute
I understand your frustration. Let's see how it ends up. The vets are also paid much more. If we hold back on signing any until after the draft, reality may set in with some of them and we will be able to sign them for a few years at the appropriate discount.
I agree with Banner. It is probably better to get rid of a guy a year or two early rather than a year or two late.
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Tall guys that can catch and little guys that can jump.
Can this guy possibly play TE?
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I agree with Banner. It is probably better to get rid of a guy a year or two early rather than a year or two late.
This is interesting for debate. An approach like this does sound good on paper, but is it really? If you let a vet go one or two seasons too early, you're probably missing on 1-2 quality, above AVG NFL seasons, youre hoping some young guy to reach "some day". How does this sound now? Future players are for future GMs...if he declines and you kept him, you have AVG or below AVG production at a high cost, while that's not cool, at least you have an experienced vet holding down a spot until the end of the season and the youngster, even high picks, probably wouldn't have been much better in the short term (a good example is our CB situation: many think any rookie CB at 6 will be much better than S.Brown, well..he will with time, but in 2013 the best we can hope is "as good as Brown")
What's the alternative? Go through the draft and sign some Nelson-like guys you hope have upside left or hit their prime years.
In both scenarios, you're effectively hoping and I can accept both depending on the player and position at question, but to shut down one side of it, isn't very smart in our situation, which is: we already have the youngest roster around. It makes sense to insert some vets with lower ceiling-higher floors to stop gap positions.
With every year passing of our "re-build" that started in the 2010 offseason it makes less sense to neglect veteran FAs. I did make sense in 2010 and 2011 to clear up the mess and turn over the age of the roster, but already in 2012 I was hoping for more from Heckert via FA and the same now from Banner.
Just look at both SB teams, they both filled voids in FA with vets or do you think they would have gotten this far without Rogers, Whitner, J.Smith, Moss or McKinney, Boldin, Pollard?
Guys like Dansby or Rhodes or even G Moore are exactly those types of players...why get cute and hope for the draft to fill the need, just to save 1mil/season and run the risk of some other team scooping them up? We have, by far, the most cap room left and have several positions with questionable projected starters...go get them, what's the problem here? It's not like they're asking for 4-5 year deals...most of these guys want 2-3 year contracts, which, in our situation, is perfectly managable, even if you have to cut him after 2 seasons. Guys like Kruger or Bryant are much bigger risks in this regard if they get injured or start partying with the money...I just don't see all this "risk" and/or smart money talk when it comes to these type of FAs...why low ball them with one year deals? Do you consider them on par with the likes of Owens or Nelson? Heck no, then give them 2-3 year deals....they're WORTH it. I hope Banner got the memo that the restricted cap-era is over. You're not smart if you get a good deal, you're smart if you field a good team within the cap....that's what it's all about today
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I have the same comment on this that I had on the Hixon potential... Looks like Turner to me more than anyone else. He had a WR profile in San Diego, all "big men that can run" and I'm good with the Nelson signing.
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