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Hey guys, we're a week in and 83 picks in... that puts us on pace to finish the draft (254 picks) the day before draft day. Let's keep it up! clwb is on the West Coast so he probably won't be picking for SEA and IND until close to his time limit, so if you pick shortly after his two and don't want to wait around , shoot me a PM with a couple players on it.

Also, I know some of you are planning on dropping out after the third round. If you are, will you please post a note about it here so we can get your team reclaimed? Thanks!

I was just gonna ask if were going past the 3rd,

Lets keep going we still have a couple weeks before the draft.

I'm up, I'll be picking in a few minutes for both Indy and Seattle.

Seattle and New Orleans have agreed to a trade:

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Sent to: PowderBlue11
Hey,
Seattle is interested in picking up a 2nd 4th rounder (#109). To move up, I'd offer the following

Round 5, Pick 5 (138)
Round 5, Pick 25 (158)
Round 6, Pick 26 (194)

Points wise, it is 79 points, halfway between pick 107 and 108. Let me know if you're interested.

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Deal. I need the picks, and that's a fair deal for both of us.
Would you mind announcing the deal? I'm pressed for time at the moment.

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OK, we're well over on Chicago's pick. Based on yoshi's exhausted 2nd-round board, I think he'd like a DE or a CB. Any votes?

nm, he picked. delete delete

Green Bay would like to move up into the bottom of the 3rd round or early in the 4th,


Would offer thier 4th round # 122
5th Round # 159 & # 167

any offers let me know

Green Bay has traded picks

# 122 in the 4th

# 159 & 167 in the 5th for


Pick 107 in the 4th.

So far the Cheifs have picked up..

Luke Joeckel
Alex Smith (trade)
Ryan Swope
Tyler Bray
Montee Ball

I think Swope in the slot along with Bowe, Baldwin, and McCluster, and then Jamal Charles teamed up with Montee Ball, the KC Offense is young and in good hands.

Had I been KC the entire time I likely would of tried to trade out of #1, or send Brandon Albert somewhere for a 1st/2nd (still think it'll happen)

I was optimistic Barkley would get to my pick when he started to fall, but am ok with Bray learning and taking over for Smith in 2 years, when the young offense should be going well..

So far the Jets have added

Josh Freeman (trade)
Barkevious Mingo, OLB - LSU
Zach Ertz, TE - Stanford
Shawn Williams, SS - Georgia
Leon McFadden, CB - San Diego State
Stephan Taylor, RB - Stanford
2014 First Round Pick from New England

I did lose Mark Sanchez and Darrelle Revis, though.


Still, I'm happy with my draft.

As this gets into the depth...to get this moving smoothly - you know mess ups are going to start (mess up = picking a guy who was picked already )

Is it possible for a young dawg with time on his hands to list by Position who has been taken??? This way before making the pick I can go to Safeties n simply check a nice short list of who was gone. To confirm our pick is there to make.

As this gets into later rounds - Dawgs are going to be a little lazy to check each round for that player to be available. If we got an easier positional list to check it might move along.

I know my last pick I had to check 2-3 positions to see if the prospect I would want is still available. It took a lot of effort that might not be done for later picks or accurately done for later picks...JMHSuggestion.

I know I know I should do it. Just doing other stuff as I hang on the board.

Traded up to hopefully take Montee Ball, but KC beat me to it, right after I agree on the trade, LOL...but still was worth moving up & taking Gio Bernard Packers still needed help at RB. Ball would have fit in nicely but oh well that how it goes....

that would have been cool getting Frederick and Ball. sorry you missed out on your first target.

j/c

I just picked Zeke Motta who has fallen off the face of most draft boards. Due to his speed in shorts.

But he is a perfect example of a FOOTBALL PLAYER who give his all on every play for the team. The Combine has to get some rating system for the Heart beside literally the heart as in heart beats n medical reasons. I mean Football Heart.

Just was always impressed with that kid while playing. 4th round on...I would prefer Football players rather than workout warriors who lack Football skills. You actually can improve speed...Field speed.

Just thinking out loud. Clay...many RBs in any round can succeed on an Offense that has Flow like the Packers do. Kid you got has skill n fits in well with the Packers O

JMHO

I think he'll go lower than that on draft day (disappeared too often last year). But, I will give him one thing. He is one of the few ND players who absolutely showed up vs. Bama.

KC is offering the 170th (6th round #2) and the 207th (7th round pick #1)

Looking to get back into the 5th round. PM offers.

Stupid not being able to trade Comp picks rule! *shakes fist*

I love over achievers...especially after the top 100 prospects are taken. Mostly you are looking at Football Players without the Olympic numbers or None Football Players with good-great Olympic Numbers.

Yeah one on one with Hernandez (Gonzo unfortunately might be in trouble medically) he might not look pretty. But you can take him out in a Nickel/Dime situation.

Alabama game showed that Heart n Intensity he can bring. I saw him turn games around during the season. Big games cause I didn't watch ND for ND but usually games that were going to be competitive. Hopefully Diam can give me some thoughts as he is about as big a ND fan that there is.

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Here is my list as of now showing who has been taken so far. The last two items in each row represent the spot the player was chosen in our draft and by who. I hope this helps.



Tackle-

1 *Luke Joeckel OT 1 Texas A&M Jr 1 KC
3 Eric Fisher OT 2 Central Michigan Sr 4 Phi
7 Lane Johnson OT 3 Oklahoma Sr 5 Det.
23 *D.J. Fluker OT 4 Alabama rJr 21 Cin
52 Terron Armstead OT 5 Arkansas-Pine Bluff Sr 32 Bal
54 Kyle Long OT 6 Oregon Sr 38 Arz.
63 *Menelik Watson OT 7 Florida State Jr 47 Dal
68 *David Bakhtiari OT 8 Colorado rJr 54 Mia
103 David Quessenberry OT 10 San Jose State rSr 76 SD
116 Xavier Nixon OT 11 Florida Sr 98 jax
125 Dallas Thomas OT 13 Tennessee rSr 50 Chi
160 Brennan Williams OT 15 North Carolina Sr 75 StL

Guard-


2 Chance Warmack OG 1 Alabama Sr 13 StL
14 Jonathan Cooper OG 2 North Carolina rSr 11 SD
43 *Justin Pugh OG 3 Syracuse rJr 55 GB
75 Larry Warford OG 4 Kentucky Sr 36 Det.
96 Brian Winters OG 5 Kent State Sr 68 Cle

Center-

56 *Travis Frederick C 1 Wisconsin rJr 88 GB
61 Barrett Jones C 2 Alabama rSr 57 Pit
92 Brian Schwenke C 3 California Sr 80 Dal

WR-

11 *Cordarrelle Patterson WR 1 Tennessee Jr 17 Hou
18 Tavon Austin WR 2 West Virginia Sr 9 NE
27 *DeAndre Hopkins WR 3 Clemson Jr 41 BUF
32 *Keenan Allen WR 4 California Jr 34 SF
36 *Robert Woods WR 5 Southern California Jr 42 Mia
41 Quinton Patton WR 6 Louisiana Tech rSr 53 Cin
53 Terrance Williams WR 7 Baylor rSr 52 Minn
60 Markus Wheaton WR 8 Oregon State Sr 94 bal
62 *Justin Hunter WR 9 Tennessee Jr 48 Pit
70 Aaron Dobson WR 10 Marshall Sr 101 phi
82 *Da'Rick Rogers WR 11 Tennessee Tech Jr 78 StL
88 Ryan Swope WR 12 Texas A&M rSr 63 KC
108 *Stedman Bailey WR 14 West Virginia rJr 97 tenn

TE-

24 *Tyler Eifert TE 1 Notre Dame rJr 22 Cle
44 *Zach Ertz TE 2 Stanford rJr 39 NYJ
65 Vance McDonald TE 3 Rice rSr 84 Cin
95 Travis Kelce TE 5 Cincinnati rSr 77
107 *Jordan Reed TE 6 Florida rJr 92 chi

RB-

33 *Eddie Lacy RB 1 Alabama rJr 37 Cin
64 *Giovani Bernard RB 2 North Carolina rSo 107 GB
93 Montee Ball RB 6 Wisconsin Sr 99 kc
102 Stepfan Taylor RB 7 Stanford Sr 106 NYJ
143 *Marcus Lattimore RB 11 South Carolina Jr 93 sf

QB-

9 Geno Smith QB 1 West Virginia Sr 6 TB
22 Matt Barkley QB 2 Southern California Sr 89 hou
45 Ryan Nassib QB 3 Syracuse rSr 103 Arz
51 EJ Manuel QB 4 Florida State rSr 68 Phi
58 Tyler Wilson QB 5 Arkansas rSr 71 Buf
69 Mike Glennon QB 6 North Carolina State rSr 100 Oak.
78 *Tyler Bray QB 7 Tennessee Jr 96 kc

DT-

4 *Sharrif Floyd DT 1 Florida Jr 3 Oak.
16 Star Lotulelei DT 2 Utah Sr 10 Ten
17 *Sheldon Richardson DT 3 Missouri rJr 19 NYG
26 *Johnathan Hankins DT 4 Ohio State Jr 73 TB
28 Kawann Short DT 5 Purdue rSr 56 Sea
37 Jesse Williams DT 6 Alabama Sr 51 Was.
48 Sylvester Williams DT 7 North Carolina Sr 23 Min
74 John Jenkins DT 8 Georgia Sr 61 Car
301 Chris Jones DT Bowling Green 90 Den

DE-

6 *Bjoern Werner DE 1 Florida State Jr 18 Dal.
8 Dion Jordan DE 2 Oregon rSr 7 Arz.
10 Ezekiel Ansah DE 3 Brigham Young Sr 8 BUF
20 Datone Jones DE 4 UCLA rSr 25 Den
25 *Damontre Moore DE 5 Texas A&M Jr 24 I nd
31 Alex Okafor DE 6 Texas Sr 49 NYG
35 *Sam Montgomery DE 7 LSU rJr 87 Sea
46 Cornellius Carradine DE 8 Florida State Sr 60 Atl
49 Margus Hunt DE 9 Southern Methodist rSr 31 SF
87 John Simon DE 10 Ohio State Sr 79 Pit

OLB-

12 *Barkevious Mingo OLB 1 LSU rJr 14 NYJ
15 *Jarvis Jones OLB 2 Georgia rJr 15 NO
38 *Alec Ogletree OLB 3 Georgia Jr 28 Minn
40 Arthur Brown OLB 4 Kansas State rSr 30 Chi
59 Khaseem Greene OLB 5 Rutgers rSr 82 Mia
66 Sio Moore OLB 6 Connecticut rSr 109 sea
91 *Corey Lemonier OLB 9 Auburn Jr 66 Oak.
99 Zaviar Gooden OLB 10 Missouri rSr 102 jax

ILB-

29 *Kevin Minter ILB 1 LSU rJr 40 Ten
39 Manti Te'o ILB 2 Notre Dame Sr 27 Pit
109 Kiko Alonso ILB 3 Oregon rSr 95 hou

CB-


5 *Dee Milliner CB 1 Alabama Jr 2 Jax
13 *Xavier Rhodes CB 2 Florida State rJr 12 Miami
21 Desmond Trufant CB 3 Washington Sr 20 Atl
30 Johnthan Banks CB 4 Mississippi State Sr 35 Phi
47 Jamar Taylor CB 5 Boise State rSr 44 Car
50 *David Amerson CB 6 North Carolina State Jr 33 Jax
57 Jordan Poyer CB 7 Oregon State Sr 70 Tenn
67 Darius Slay CB 8 Mississippi State Sr 45 SD
73 Robert Alford CB 9 Southeastern Louisiana rSr 83 minn
81 *Logan Ryan CB 10 Rutgers rJr 85 Was.
85 *Tyrann Mathieu CB 11 LSU Jr 59 NE
86 Dwayne Gratz CB 12 Connecticut rSr 86 Ind
94 B.W. Webb CB 13 William & Mary rSr 64 Minn
101 Blidi Wreh-Wilson CB 14 Connecticut rSr 46 Cle
118 Leon McFadden CB 15 San Diego State Sr 91 nyj
150 *Tharold Simon CB 18 LSU Jr 108 car
228 D.J. Hayden CB 28 Houston Sr 65 Det.

FS-

19 Kenny Vaccaro FS 1 Texas Sr 16 StL
55 *Eric Reid FS 2 LSU Jr 43 Cle
71 Phillip Thomas FS 3 Fresno State rSr 58 Den
90 Bacarri Rambo FS 4 Georgia rSr 81 NYG
115 D.J. Swearinger FS 6 South Carolina Sr 69 Arz


SS-

34 *Matt Elam SS 1 Florida Jr 26 GB
42 Jonathan Cyprien SS 2 Florida International Sr 29 SF
79 Shamarko Thomas SS 3 Syracuse Sr 62 Bal
104 Shawn Williams SS 4 Georgia Sr 72 NYJ
155 Robert Lester SS 6 Alabama Sr 74 car
219 Duke Williams SS 8 Nevada Sr 104 cinn
302 Zeke Motta SS Notre Dame 105 Buf

Wow. Thanks.

that is great. thank you.

is the first number your personal board or a specific websites? thanks.

Your welcome. The first number is CBS overall ranking.

cool, thanks again.

Awesome. Great list.

Also, what you can do, if you have a player in mind, CTRL+F and look for that players name on the page.

That's what I've been doing.

j/c

we are past the point of a RB run this round. it's now a full-on RB raid!

j/c

I like ChargerDawg's Franklin pick. Gives the Chargers three good options with Mathews, Woodhead, and Franklin. Hopefully Franklin excels and they don't have to resign Mathews this offseason.

Really surprised that Franklin was still on the board.

Gotta like a back with the nickname Jetski...

Yea I was surprised Franklin still available as well, matter fact was going to take him in couple of picks, you beat me to punch. Good value at this stage IMO.

Ditto on the Thanks n excellent job!

Oh btw...you're Hired

so...it's that time again. unfortunately B^3 is late again, so we need to fill-in for the Dolphins.

they have selected:

Xavier Rhodes, CB
Robert Woods, WR
David Bakhtieri, OT
Travis Kelce, TE
Khaseem Green, LB


I think they still need:
DE, DT, S, OL


Any suggestions?

T.J Mcdonald FS USC


Just saying

Do it.

Lets go Rams...until my pick. Who is here in case I leave to give my pick - Clevesteve are you here? Who is the deputy Commish...lol

Going to start watching the Masters on DVR soon.

I think I have clearly had the best draft so far:

Dion Jordan, Kyle Long, D.J. Swearinger, and Ryan Nassib through four rounds. I should be working in an NFL front office!

Sorry to hold things up. It's been a little busy at the fire house today.

No wheeling n dealing from me...hard to claim reality on some of the trades we were having done...Everyone wanted to be a player - I thought I was watching 18 year olds at their first House of Prostitution! Note not speaking from experience just my mental impression

Buffalo happy: Ziggy? I'll be shocked if he gets passed 2 Let alone pass #6

A top 3 WR of the draft in the 2nd. Hopkins
One of the most respected QBs Wilson to sit n learn as a 3rd round prospect
A SS that I just loved as a Football Player Go Figure...If I'm a Bill's fan I'm happy (of course I'm not )

Dallas
Bjoern Werner I saw 1 or 2 DE - After the combine all of a sudden this kid drops??? Why? Unless drugs or injury no reason.

Then investments needed for the entire Offense to become better.
RT Watson, C Schwenke n OG Thorton who will be a starter in Real life. These three can grow old together n finally get Dallas over the hump. OL not sexy but when you got the QB n stud WR n stud TE n solid RB...its about the OL

But most dawgs here are pretty well informed so many picks will look good if you ask me.

Dallas I feel much better for cause it was all about the LOS

Buffalo more risk...WR, QB, I liked the D picks in Ziggy n Zeke

When done put this baby in a time capsule n revive it after the 2015 season

Jets are disqualified because they still have Mark Sanchez on the roster. His mere status there takes everything down

Actually, he dumped Sanchez. That has to make it the best, right?

The fact that the Sanchez trade occurred irks me a little bit. Realistically there is no way the Jets can dump him without taking a huge cap hit.

Trading Sanchez would incur another $4.3 MM. Josh Freeman has an $8.4 MM salary this year. Jets currently have $12.1 MM in cap space. Freeman would have to sign an extension for this deal to get done, and they'd have to structure it somehow where his cap hit this year would only be around $4 MM for it to work. Have to restructure some others.

Well, no... I take that back. Trading Revis incurs another $4 MM in dead cap. They'd have to have some people (Holmes? Ferguson?) restructure. They could gain $1 MM against the cap cutting Tebow, but yeah the cap implications of these moves make it seem very difficult.

The St. Louis Rams would like to trade back into 4th round if anyone interested in trading out. Still have 5,6 and 7 , if any interested can talk details. P.M me or let me know.

I'm taking quality over quantity.

When I traded for Rolando McClain I was mocked...when Ozzie signed him he was a genius LOL


HACK

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When I traded for Rolando McClain I was mocked...when Ozzie signed him he was a genius LOL

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Just to update "our" team ... the Browns have drafted


Tyler Eifert, TE Notre Dame
Eric Reid, FS LSU
Blidi-Wreh Wilson, CB UConn
Brian Winters, OG Kent State
Trevardo Williams, OLB UConn

I was monitoring, but thanks for the assist. I definitely was taking Will Davis there as I'm shocked he dropped all the way to 122. I wasn't planning on taking another CB, but I have him much higher than here (maybe i'm just crazy, but he is a big reason that his coach is now at Wisconsin).

Tennessee had a trade with GB which involved a compensatory pick at the end of the 5th. Those aren't supposed to be traded. Can you guys work something out?

sorry about that one. i paid attention to my comp-picks, but missed that it was one of his. i'll PM.

I would be happy with that draft. I may not have chosen the exact player you did at CB ( I would have taken Poyer ahead of Wilson) but that's just my opinion. I would consider that a very succesful draft.

thanks NLR and Clay for getting that straightened out.

And thats why you're the Commish

OK, yoshi's time is up. Here are Chicago's picks so far. This is the fourth round, so 2 votes gets the pick.

30. CHI (f/ ATL) - 4yikes2yoshi0 - Arthur Brown, OLB, Kansas State
50. Chicago Bears- 4yikes2yoshi0 - Dallas Thomas, OL Tenn
92. CHI (f/ ATL)- 4yikes2yoshi0 - Jordan Reed, TE Miami
20(117) Bears - 4yikes2yoshi0 - Jonathan Bostic, ILB Florida

I could see a defensive tackle, a center, a corner, or a backup/developmental QB.

Or if there's a BPA you think needs to get picked, suggest that.

QB...Landry Jones

I second the Landry Jones pick. He, Dysert and Scott are the best QBs available and they need at least a backup QB if not a starter in case Cutler doesn't work out in the new offense and a contract year. They don't have many other glaring weaknesses. And this is good value.

If others agree, then I also say that pick is fine.

Gsa, just wanted to let u know I'm ready with my pick, and your after me

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Chicago f/ Atlanta picks Landry Jones

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So, last year the second Friday before the draft, we were on pick 148.

The difference is, last year we started 2 weeks earlier!

Overall, doing a great job keeping up, especially some particular posters. Sending your board in really helps move this along. We're clearly going to finish before the draft.

Thanks, guys!

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Thanks, guys

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Thank you Clevesteve...you've captianed this from the begining and kept us all on the right path...Great job as always...

I agree. I appreciate your organization clevesteve. I had never done this until this year, and I am enjoying it. Plus, it really forces me to get to know all of the mid/late round guys. I will enjoy watching the draft so much more now.

yikes wasn't here for his last pick and he is over the 3 hours on this pick. Do we turn it over to the mob?

Yep. He mentioned defensive end in an earlier PM.

I was going to suggest Dlineman for sure. Not sure who is still on the board.

Devin Taylor?

Makes sense to me. I'll put it up there.

Sounds good to me

Well, we WERE moving at a good clip.

Go ahead and pick someone for Detroit. Well turn yoshis teams over to the mob.

WR Chris Harper, KSTate

I agree on Chris Harper. The Lions need someone besides Megatron and Harper is great value in the 5th.

If not Harper, DE needs to be considered. Lions lost both starting Defensive Ends.
DE Michael Buchanan, Illini

I'm good with another DE as well. I was just throwing something out.