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I didnt even think about that, good point.

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If they think they have a lead on where the men in the picture are, they don't need to release them.

Also, I think you have to consider their safety as well. If they are innocent, they could be at risk leaving their homes by angry mobs.

CNN claimed to have seen the pictures, and I know, take them with a grain of salt, they described the males as one with a white ballcap and the other with a running jacket, both with bags. That accurately fits a bunch of pictures from that reddit. I'm not going to comment on race, you make your own opinion on that, if you've seen these pictures.

Could you imagine if these people are caught because a bunch of internet trolls/hackers/people who make cat memes did some unbelievable leg work?

Who knows who had these pictures first, but the timing is pretty interesting.

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To expand on your point too, the feds want these guys alive. By releasing the photos, you're putting targets on their backs. If they are in fact the people who did this, the last thing you want, besides them skipping the country obviously, is some brazen knucklehead taking them out before you get a chance to... get some info, we'll say.


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OK, for our sakes. What was the race? I don't like to make assumptions. Just in the pics you saw that was the race? Not whether you feel they were the right ones, or anything like that.

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The Boston Marathon.

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As soon as my picture shows up, I'm fleeing the country.


Its not like they don't know they have been IDed. They can look at internet and TV too. I would imagine they are working on getting out of country right now. More reason to have their pics plastered everywhere.

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New York Post and Boston Globe are reporting that the photo you're referring to is being circulated by authorities. The guy in the white hat is shown with a backpack in one photo, and then later with no visible backpack.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/feds_have_men_in_sights_j43UJwXZncr0wmysU42scJ

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OK, for our sakes. What was the race? I don't like to make assumptions. Just in the pics you saw that was the race? Not whether you feel they were the right ones, or anything like that.

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Sure it does, how else will I know who to cast a blanket of hate on?


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Just hate everyone that isnt like you. Thats basically SOP the world around.

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or you could be like PDR and think everyone is the same and still hate them


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New York Post and Boston Globe are reporting that the photo you're referring to is being circulated by authorities. The guy in the white hat is shown with a backpack in one photo, and then later with no visible backpack.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/feds_have_men_in_sights_j43UJwXZncr0wmysU42scJ




Yeah, this picture says the bag is already placed but if you look at the right side of the picture you will see the man in the White hat and the man in the blue jacket. The man in the white hat still has the black bag and they are standing very close or perhaps right on the center of the blast area.
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I saw a similar site today that placed them right on the blast site ... the photo of them talking was superimposed over the photo of the same area, post-explosion. I wonder if the video shows white hat taking off the backpack and setting it down.

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I wonder which of those are the ones who died. I think that's the Asian girl who is standing right in front of the bag. I don't see the kid who died.

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There is a child (i think) in a yellow and blue jacket right near the pole.

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I wonder which of those are the ones who died. I think that's the Asian girl who is standing right in front of the bag. I don't see the kid who died.

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I think a picture from another perspective shows him sitting on a man's shoulders near that black fence that's in the lower right of the picture posted above. Maybe not.

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New York Post and Boston Globe are reporting that the photo you're referring to is being circulated by authorities. The guy in the white hat is shown with a backpack in one photo, and then later with no visible backpack.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/feds_have_men_in_sights_j43UJwXZncr0wmysU42scJ




Yeah, this picture says the bag is already placed but if you look at the right side of the picture you will see the man in the White hat and the man in the blue jacket. The man in the white hat still has the black bag and they are standing very close or perhaps right on the center of the blast area.
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New York Post and Boston Globe are reporting that the photo you're referring to is being circulated by authorities. The guy in the white hat is shown with a backpack in one photo, and then later with no visible backpack.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/feds_have_men_in_sights_j43UJwXZncr0wmysU42scJ




Yeah, this picture says the bag is already placed but if you look at the right side of the picture you will see the man in the White hat and the man in the blue jacket. The man in the white hat still has the black bag and they are standing very close or perhaps right on the center of the blast area.
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Here's a Picture after the bombing at a distance. You can still see the smoke from the bomb and tell me those two guys are not within 5 feet from where the bomb went off. I'm pretty sure the FBI wants to question those two men.


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You can still see the smoke from the bomb and tell me those two guys are not within 5 feet from where the bomb went off. I'm pretty sure the FBI wants to question those two men.




They did. He walked into the police station to clear his name. The guy in the blue is a high school track athlete.

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FBI just released photos, and it wasn't these 2.

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Did nobody learn anything from the Richard Jewell situation?


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New York Post strikes again ... they apparently published photos of two innocent men. They, and others, reported that the photos were distributed by "authorities". Then again, they reported 12 dead on Monday shortly after the bombings when it was 3 dead. Tabloid trash.

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Well hes a douchebag, he has on a backwards hat

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No, everyone on the internet thinks they are Batman and can solve all the crimes.

Also, the guy who "didn't have a backpack" was holding it in his arms. This is why I hate the internet sometimes. The best laid schemes of mice and men often go awry. It's like Umbrella Man in the JFK assassination. If you put anything under a close enough microscope, you'll see some truly bizzare things. Glad to see they got cleared.


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To be fair, I'm positive one, and think both, of those guys were in the original 4chan thread on reddit


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That's exactly my point. 4chan and Reddit and other sites find all these "suspicious guys" and their names/faces/personal info gets plastered all over the internet. in the case of the two young men who got cleared, their personal information was on Reddit before it finally got taken down. The images go viral with tags like "These are the MFers who attacked our city" (also happened with the two young men) and it becomes a witch hunt where people get all riled up and cause even more innocent people to get hunted down like dogs and countless lives ruined. The internet's role should be to provide the FBI with as much info and pictures as possible and to leave the detective work to the actual detectives.

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New image of suspect #2 after the bombing. Looks like he does not have his bookbag any longer. He is on the far left by the red telephone booth thing.

If he is innocent, I am sure he will come forward, but this is a pretty clear picture for those who may recognize him.

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Boston Globe is reporting that one of the suspects is in custody.


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WATERTOWN — One suspect in Monday’s Boston Marathon bombings has been captured, according to an official with knowledge of the investigation. Another remains on the loose in Watertown after a firefight with police. Authorities have established a 20-block perimeter as they search for him.

A scene of chaos descended on Cambridge and Watertown late Thursday night and early Friday morning, as police confirmed an MIT police officer was shot and killed, and an apparent carjacking led police on a wild chase into Watertown.

Witnesses in Watertown said they heard explosions. Police officers were screaming about improvised explosive devices.

Authorities would not comment on whether the events were connected to Monday’s Boston Marathon bombings. At least one of the suspects in Watertown appeared to be a man in his 20s.

FBI agents were on the scene in Watertown.

“We are aware of the situation, we are being involved, and we are monitoring,” said an FBI representative who requested anonymity because of not being authorized to speak publicly. The FBI source said early Friday it is “too early to speculate” on a relation to the Marathon bombing.

Dozens of police officers descended on Watertown Square after midnight.

“This is still extremely dangerous,” an FBI agent said. The Cambridge bomb squad arrived in Watertown shortly after 1:30 a.m.

A man in handcuffs was being questioned by the FBI in the back of an ambulance.

At Arsenal Court and Arsenal Street in Watertown, an officer bellowed: “Ya gotta get outta here. There’s an active shooter here with an active explosive. Go!”

Peter Jennings, 33, said he was sleeping just before 1 a.m. in his home on Prentiss Street in Watertown when he was awakened by a huge boom.

“It sounded like a stick of dynamite went off,” he said. “I looked out the window, and it was like nothing I’ve ever seen – blue light after blue light after blue light.”

He said more than three dozen emergency vehicles with sirens blaring were heading down Rt. 16 West. He went to the end of his street, where some neighbors were gathering. The air, he said, smelled like “at the end of a fireworks show, like a wick smell.”

“I had a bad feeling because of what happened on Monday,” he said.

John Antonucci’s 79-year-old mother called him hysterical from her home in Laurel Street. She heard about five gun shots and didn’t know what to do.

“She was saying they’re running down the street shooting,” Antonucci said standing outside if yellow police tape. “She was crying so hard I couldn’t understand what she was talking about.”

So he told her: Stay inside the house.

Residents describe the neighborhood as safe and family oriented, where they leave open doors and windows and feed stray cats.

Standing on the corner of Quincy and Nichols as police officers hastily strung up caution tape, Lindsay ., 25, and Collin Ausfeld, 26, peered over the scene to get a glimpse of their apartment about a block away on Dartmouth Street.

“I was buying ice cream right there” -- . pointed to a structure a few steps away, behind the caution tape “just this afternoon.”

Ausfeld stared at the crime scene in front of him, trying to make sense of what he was seeing. As an afterthought, he muttered, “I hope the apartment doesn’t blow up.”

The couple said they moved to the neighborhood in January, leaving behind their Belmont place, because Watertown was closer to the city, and their block was quiet, safe, and friendly.

“After this, I still feel safe on this street,” . said. “I mean, you just never know with these things.”

Adam Healy, 31, said he stepped outside for a cigarette near one of the shooting scenes in Watertown, when he heard gunfire.

“I just heard tons of gunshots,” he said. “Gunshot, gunshot, gunshot, gunshot. Then I saw an explosion and saw a burst of light in the sky.”

Imran Saif, a cab driver, was parking his car for the night near Dexter and School streets and was preparing to bike home from Cambridge when he heard a series of loud noises that he said “sounded like fireworks.” He said he biked toward the sounds, thinking they fireworks, when people in nearby houses began waving him back, telling him it was gunfire.

“It just sounded like there was automatic weapons going off, and I heard a few explosions,” he said. “They sounded like fireworks, mostly, big fireworks going off -- tons, I’d say. I’m really scared. When I found out it was gunshots, that just knocked the wind out of me.”

Police were demanding that cellphones be turned off.

The MIT officer, who has not been identified, was shot multiple times at 10:48 p.m., according to the Middlesex district attorney’s office. No one else was hurt, and no ­arrests had been made by early Friday.

The manhunt fanned out from ­Kendall Square over an area that has endured a tragic and tumultuous week, in the aftermath of the fatal explosions at Monday’s Boston Marathon. There was no report of a connection between the two events, but the swarm of sirens and circling helicopters rattled a region already on edge.

Police from several agencies were conducting a manhunt for the gunman across the school campus and on the T’s Red Line, according to authorities.

MIT and Cambridge police responded to a report of shots fired at 10:48 p.m. Thursday near Main and Vassar streets, according to the university.

Police officers and canine units swept the campus, and a big swath of Vassar Street was blocked.

The university issued an alert to students and faculty to remain inside.

An eerie quiet descended on the campus as teams of ­police officers combed the campus block by block. SWAT teams were present.

Police checked bushes and alleys and yanked on doors.

Officers from the MIT and Harvard departments, as well as Cambridge and State Police, were present.

Siddhartha Varshney was walking home from dinner with two friends when they were stopped at the police cordon.

“Initially, we thought they had caught the suspect in the bombing,” the 28-year-old said. But they then learned it was a shooting involving an MIT officer.

“Well, I — honestly — I mean, I can’t think what I make of it. The situation is a little tense,” he said. “And I hope that whoever he is gets caught.”

Few seemed to be out on the campus at the time of the shooting. One professor, standing feet from the police tape, said he came out of his office when he heard a commotion of sirens and saw ­police lights.

At around midnight, a frantic scene was unfolding at Massachusetts General Hospital, where a dozen police cars arrived with sirens on and several women were brought in by police, looking deeply ­upset.
Marcella Bombardieri, ­Brian MacQuarrie, Martine Powers, Maria Sacchetti, and Milton J. Valencia of the Globe staff and correspondents Jeremy C. Fox, Haven Orecchio-Egresitz, Jaclyn Reiss, and Gal Tziperman Lotan contributed to this report.




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News says 1 dead, one at large. Dead guy shot, but had some traumatic injuries as well like from a bomb.

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Man I don't know, I saw the pic where they had him laying on the ground, face down, arms out, legs crossed over each other at the ankles. They hadn't cuffed him yet. He looked perfectly fine, I didn't see no blood, or wounds or anything. Now all of a sudden they get him in custody and he is dead?

Just seems fishy to me.

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Man I don't know, I saw the pic where they had him laying on the ground, face down, arms out, legs crossed over each other at the ankles. They hadn't cuffed him yet. He looked perfectly fine, I didn't see no blood, or wounds or anything. Now all of a sudden they get him in custody and he is dead?

Just seems fishy to me.

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I tried to make sense of the video of the guy laying on the ground, then told to strip to make sure he had no explosives on his body and then placed in the back of a squad car...

That guy was later uncuffed, clothed and questioned...I heard he was not held.

Just guessing...he may have been a guy in the wrong place at the wrong time.


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"News agency Associated Press is reporting that the Boston bomb suspects are from a Russian region near Chechnya, and have lived in the US for at least one year. That information is as yet unconfirmed."

why would people from Chechnya do this?


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"News agency Associated Press is reporting that the Boston bomb suspects are from a Russian region near Chechnya, and have lived in the US for at least one year. That information is as yet unconfirmed."

why would people from Chechnya do this?


Isnt Chechnya highly Muslim?

I do think it is hilarious that every single person of Mid Eastern descent who was seen there was tabbed as suspects, and it turns out to be Russian dudes? The one Saudi guy was running from the blast like every one else and somebody tackled him. SMDH

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why would people from Chechnya do this?




It almost always boils down to one of two things.

They hate us for what we have and they dont and they think we are arrogant fat pigs

We bombed the crap out of their country at some point

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"News agency Associated Press is reporting that the Boston bomb suspects are from a Russian region near Chechnya, and have lived in the US for at least one year. That information is as yet unconfirmed."

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Lots of information there. Here are a few things I thought were interesting.

According to the U.S. State Department, the Islamic International Peacekeeping Brigade (IIPB) is the primary channel for Islamic funding of the Chechen guerillas, in part through links to al-Qaeda-related financiers on the Arabian Peninsula.

Are there links between Chechen groups and al-Qaeda?
Experts say there are several ties between the al-Qaeda network and Chechen groups. A Chechen warlord known as Khattab is said to have met with Osama bin Laden while both men were fighting the 1979-89 Soviet occupation of Afghanistan. Alexander Vershbow, a U.S. ambassador to Russia, said shortly after September 11, 2001, "We have long recognized that Osama bin Laden and other international networks have been fueling the flames in Chechnya, including the involvement of foreign commanders like Khattab." Khattab was killed in April 2002.

Zacarias Moussaoui, who was convicted for his involvement in the September 11 attacks, was reported by the Wall Street Journal to be formerly "a recruiter for al-Qaeda-backed rebels in Chechnya." Chechen militants reportedly fought alongside al-Qaeda and Taliban forces against the U.S.-backed Northern Alliance in late 2001. The Taliban regime in Afghanistan was one of the only governments to recognize Chechen independence.

Russian authorities, including Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, have repeatedly stressed the involvement of international terrorists and Bin Laden associates in Ch chnya--in part, experts say, to generate Western sympathy for Russia's military campaign against the Chechen rebels. Russia's former defense minister, Sergei Ivanov, claimed that a videotape of Khattab meeting with bin Laden had been found in Afghanistan, but Russia has not aired the tape publicly.


What major attacks are the Chechen groups responsible for?

The most notorious and devastating attack came in September 2004, when Basayev ordered an attack on a school in Beslan, a town in North Ossetia. More than three hundred people died in the three-day siege, most of them children. There were thirty-two militants, though only three or four were Chechens. All but one of the militants were reportedly killed during the siege. Since then, violence has generally targeted individual officials and government offices rather than large groups of civilians. Attacks include:

An August 1999 bombing of a shopping arcade and a September 1999 bombing of an apartment building in Moscow that killed sixty-four people.

Two bombings in September 1999 in the Russian republic of Dagestan and southern Russian city of Volgodonsk. Controversy still surrounds whether these attacks were conclusively linked to Chechens.

A bomb blast that killed at least forty-one people, including seventeen children, during a military parade in the southwestern town of Kaspiisk in May 2002. Russia blamed the attack on Chechen terrorists.

The October 2002 seizure of Moscow's Dubrovka Theater, where approximately seven hundred people were attending a performance. Russian Special Forces launched a rescue operation, but the opium-derived gas they used to disable the hostage-takers killed more than 120 hostages, as well as many of the terrorists. Basayev took responsibility for organizing the attack, and three Chechen-affiliated groups are thought to have been involved.

A December 2002 dual suicide bombing that attacked the headquarters of Chechnya's Russian-backed government in Grozny. Russian officials claim that international terrorists helped local Chechens mount the assault, which killed eighty-three people.

In March 2010, two female suicide bombers detonated bombs in a Moscow metro station located near the headquarters of the security services, killing thirty-nine people. Islamist Chechen rebel leader Doku Umarov claimed responsibility for the bombing; he had also claimed responsibility for the derailment of the Nevsky Express.

Two days after the metro station bombing in March 2010, two bombs exploded in the town of Kizlyar, in Russia's North Caucasus, killing at least twelve people.

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