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That's one downside to Android open system, the poor programming by some that write apps. You may not be using the app, but it could still be running in the background using up resoures.
Advanced task killer set to auto kill usually takes care of that.
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In May, I get to upgrade/new phone on the low cost side. I'm going to jump from the Iphone 4S to the 5 I think. Gonna go take a look at them closer first, but I think that's what I'm going to do. I think I was told that the cost to move to the 5 is $199. We'll see.
Keep an eye out for the release date for the 6 (or 5s, whatever they're calling it). I though I saw it was late may or early june. That $199 upgrade price should be the newest release I think. But you don't want to upgrade to the 5 if the 6 comes out a week later.
That's good thinking. Thanks for the tip.
Looks like everything is being delayed. Worth keeping an eye on, but if this holds true it's probably worth just getting the 5.
Apple's iPhone 5S, low-cost iPhone, iPhone 6 may be delayed
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That's one downside to Android open system, the poor programming by some that write apps. You may not be using the app, but it could still be running in the background using up resoures.
Advanced task killer set to auto kill usually takes care of that.
Yes it does, but the average user doesn't know about those things, or how to properly set it up.
So soccer mom buying a smart phone for the first time, and in a couple months the thing runs like crap because she and her kids have been downloading app after app. Her first assumption is the phone sucks.
That's where Apple has done well, and made a smart phone for the "dumb" user. The person who just turns it on and uses it, without ever checking into "preventative maintenance". The same people who bring me their PC because they clicked something they didn't read, and now thier PC doesn't work properly.
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That's one downside to Android open system, the poor programming by some that write apps. You may not be using the app, but it could still be running in the background using up resoures.
Advanced task killer set to auto kill usually takes care of that.
Yes it does, but the average user doesn't know about those things, or how to properly set it up.
So soccer mom buying a smart phone for the first time, and in a couple months the thing runs like crap because she and her kids have been downloading app after app. Her first assumption is the phone sucks.
That's where Apple has done well, and made a smart phone for the "dumb" user. The person who just turns it on and uses it, without ever checking into "preventative maintenance". The same people who bring me their PC because they clicked something they didn't read, and now thier PC doesn't work properly.
You do not need task killers in Android. Android does not operate like Windows. You don't have a lot of RAM fre, not because apps are being ran carelessly in the background, but that is how Android is designed. It is designed to keep them in the background and free things up when it really needs it.
Here are some links online:
http://www.howtogeek.com/127388/htg-explains-why-you-shouldnt-use-a-task-killer-on-android/
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/06/02/revisiting-android-task-killers-and-why-you-dont-need-one/
Basically with a task killer, you are fixing a problem that you think is a problem but really isn't a problem.
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Good to know, thanks for the info.
FYI - I uninstalled task killer after just a few days cause I could tell it wasn't really doing anything of benefit.
I think where it mightin handy is it will shut down those pesky user installed programs that do continue running and hog resources in the background., like programs with GPS tracker. and such that if just goto the home screen without exiting, will continue to run.
Got plenty of RAM on my S3 so I don't have any issues now.
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That's one downside to Android open system, the poor programming by some that write apps. You may not be using the app, but it could still be running in the background using up resoures.
Also noticed a huge difference in performance from my EVO to my Galacy 3S just due to the increase in RAM.
You also have a different processor. The EVO only has a single core processor whereas the Galaxy S 3 has a quad core, but I am assuming that you ar talking about the S3.
But the issue is that with Android is the open source aspect and that there is a larger variety of phones to choose from. You have the super low-end cheaper phones and/or tablets and then you have the mid-range phones, then you have the higher-end flagship phones. A lot of times the old adage of "you get what you pay" is really the case. If you buy a $100 Android Tablet, you are not going to have a great time with it.
With Apple, you get 1 choice and that one choice is locked down by Apple which means they choose the hardware to go with the software which means that they are going to build it in way where it runs as smoothly as possible which will most likely mean it's not going to push the phone and you will not be using the full capability of the phone.
But the other issue with Android is you have different flavors as manufacturers like Samsung, HTC and such have taken the Android OS and applied their "skin" to it. HTC with Sense and Samsung with "I forget what it's called." But these skins tend to also bloat the system as well.
But with phones, it is a matter of what do you want in a phone. I've been running with Android because I like the better choice and that I can tweak my phone and customize it more. Though, I'm more into actually changing out the ROM and such, but even if you do not get into the Flashing new roms and rooting, there are more choices to customize your own experience with the phone than with an iPhone. The downside is that it is less user friendly because of these options as opposed to the one-size-fits-all approach by Apple.
That being said, if you are using T-Mobile or AT&T or any other GSM phone service and want a nice Android phone that is inexpensive compared to what you get, check out the Nexus 4 from Google.
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Basically your restating what I said earlier in this thread of why I push "non-techie" people to iPhones for their first smart phone. It's a controlled design with less chance of getting a dud.
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That's one downside to Android open system, the poor programming by some that write apps. You may not be using the app, but it could still be running in the background using up resoures.
Advanced task killer set to auto kill usually takes care of that.
Yes it does, but the average user doesn't know about those things, or how to properly set it up.
So soccer mom buying a smart phone for the first time, and in a couple months the thing runs like crap because she and her kids have been downloading app after app. Her first assumption is the phone sucks.
That's where Apple has done well, and made a smart phone for the "dumb" user. The person who just turns it on and uses it, without ever checking into "preventative maintenance". The same people who bring me their PC because they clicked something they didn't read, and now thier PC doesn't work properly.
You do not need task killers in Android. Android does not operate like Windows. You don't have a lot of RAM fre, not because apps are being ran carelessly in the background, but that is how Android is designed. It is designed to keep them in the background and free things up when it really needs it.
Here are some links online:
http://www.howtogeek.com/127388/htg-explains-why-you-shouldnt-use-a-task-killer-on-android/
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/06/02/revisiting-android-task-killers-and-why-you-dont-need-one/
Basically with a task killer, you are fixing a problem that you think is a problem but really isn't a problem.
I've found a task killer necessary to kill apps that can drain your battery super fast.
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The battery is all I'm worried about.
I don't always remember to go into RAM manager and clear the memory all the time. So it's nice to have the auto kill function.
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I've found a task killer necessary to kill apps that can drain your battery super fast.
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The battery is all I'm worried about.
I don't always remember to go into RAM manager and clear the memory all the time. So it's nice to have the auto kill function.
The article makes sense, but I know for a fact that my phone is much more efficient after I kill a bunch of apps.
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i wouldn't rule out the nexus 4. I bought the 32gb version, and use straighttalk.
Its prepaid, and costs 49 bucks a month out the door.
Unlimited calling, texting, and internet.
The only catch is that you aren't supposed to be streaming video. I'm hooked up to wifi most of the time so its not an issue, but i get 8mb down, and 1 up using the at&t sim. You can also use t-mobile too.
Great thing about he nexus, is you won't have to worry about updates...you'll be the first to get key-lime pie.
I bought it, rooted it, and currently am running a custom rom. Phone works great, and the battery lasts over a day. I'm not a heavy talker, but that blows away my old phone that ran gingerbread.
Best part is no contract.
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I talked to a level 4 support person at Samsung today (took a little while..). but They are not releasing the Octacore in the US any time soon. So the Galaxy S4 is going to be the quad core. They will definitely have multiple options for the internal storage at 16/32/64. Base is 16 GB at $199, 32 is going to be about $40 more they said. Still upgradable through SD cards.
Gonna roll with Jelly Bean 4.2.2. But they are not saying when we will get KLP. Said it shouldn't be very long, maybe not immediate, but before end of 3rd quarter.
She was quite forthcoming and very nice.
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With internet shopping being what it is, I wonder how difficult it would be to get an unlocked Octacore shipped over here.
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probably not to difficult at all...but just will cost probably 800 bucks
My nexus is lightning fast. I paid 350 bucks. Bought it right from google play.
I don't have to wait and wonder when i'll get an update either...i'll be the first to get it. I'm sure the s4 will get key-lime pie...but after how long of a wait? And what about the next version? They are gonna want you to buy the s5.
Plus any price with a contract isn't the real price. AT&T will probably sell that for 200 bucks. Then the contract is for 2 years at i'm guessing $120/month. So that's 2880 + 200...a little over 3 grand.
i'll be paying 1200 plus 350...just about half.
Knowing what i know now i wouldn't go on contract for anything...not even a "deal" for a phone, that isn't really a deal.
Only time it's worth it imo is for a family plan, and sometimes not even then.
Only thing that almost scared me off is the lack of an sdcard. And i can say that i haven't had a problem thus far, but i use an ipod for music
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