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Ever since we merged boards, this place turned into one long tinfoil-hat-wearing chain e-mail.
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And Obama made ammo disappear. 
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I'm not a big fan of Beck.. but that was stupid.
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Ever since we merged boards, this place turned into one long tinfoil-hat-wearing chain e-mail.
as opposed to?
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Why do people keep insinuating it will be innocent citizen vs innocent citizen (ie: countrymen)?
Because that is the premise of the poll. I am aware that subsequent posts have dismissed this premise and redefined the revolution as a response to a crime wave, but that's not what the 29 percent had in mind, unless you think that number is entirely composed of dependents, which I assume we don't want to do because the largest group in the 29 percent are Republicans.
Let me put it this way. Almost everyone who has responded to this thread agrees that a revolution might be necessary. Many go further and say it is only a matter of time. So, if most of you had been lucky enough to get the phone call by this pollster, you would be counted in the 29 percent as well. And after everything I've read from you guys for years, I'm assuming you don't fall in the dependent category.
So, this is why my question, exactly how I stated it, is relevant. Most of you fall into the category of that 29 percent, and therefore at some point you have to ask yourself the question if you are really ready to start shooting. Now, DC says not at this time, but perhaps in the future things could be such that he would be able to. Okay, fair enough. But if this is the case, I still maintain that this is the Armchair Revolution of 2013, and everything that is being said about it is nothing more than abstracted speculation that doesn't mean much when words have to turn into action.
Now, anarchy2day, on the other hand, I believe is ready to start shooting. 
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Hell, the US government and military could easily infiltrate any such group(s), and start taking them apart from inside ..... knock out communications, then take out the leadership ..... and then level the headquarters of any such groups. Further, the government/military can pressure the media into molding the story as they desire.
Again, I understand that, except our military isn't to operate inside our boundaries....it's why homeland security is needed, who is buying ammo out the yin yang.
As I said, it will take a state or a group of states to stand up. If not, I agree, it can be backpaged as some skinhead group even if none of them are such.
If you have a group of state legislatures and Governors, it can't be brushed off as a fringe group. The least you can call it is a fringe grouping of states.
Rebels, so to speak.
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Hell, the US government and military could easily infiltrate any such group(s), and start taking them apart from inside ..... knock out communications, then take out the leadership ..... and then level the headquarters of any such groups. Further, the government/military can pressure the media into molding the story as they desire.
Again, I understand that, except our military isn't to operate inside our boundaries....it's why homeland security is needed, who is buying ammo out the yin yang.
As I said, it will take a state or a group of states to stand up. If not, I agree, it can be backpaged as some skinhead group even if none of them are such.
If you have a group of state legislatures and Governors, it can't be brushed off as a fringe group. The least you can call it is a fringe grouping of states.
Rebels, so to speak.
The US military operated inside the boundaries of the US during the Civil War. I would bet money that they would do so again if required to defend the union.
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Ever since we merged boards, this place turned into one long tinfoil-hat-wearing chain e-mail.
 Truer words have never been spoken.
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But if this is the case, I still maintain that this is the Armchair Revolution of 2013, and everything that is being said about it is nothing more than abstracted speculation that doesn't mean much when words have to turn into action.
Aren't most things like this? People rail against taxes but very few have the cajones to not pay them in protest and risk going to jail..... people rail against all sorts of things but very very few are willing to risk their own way of life to take a stand... as I said, the vast majority aren't going to consider picking up a gun until this country has sunken in chaos with people fighting over food, uncontrolled violence in the streets, etc... essentially when their backs are against the proverbial wall...
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I would suggest that were were much closer to the tipping point during the sixties with civil rights, political assassinations and the Vietnam war as major issues of the time.
One point of realization was Kent State.... and that probably had an influence on American history.
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I'm not a big fan of Beck.. but that was stupid.
This. Jon Stewart stopped being funny a long time ago.
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I'm not a big fan of Beck.. but that was stupid.
Plus, when was the last time Beck was even on the air? I thought that he'd been gone for quite some time now. (like a year or more)
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I would bet money that they would do so again if required to defend the union.
I really wonder if they would. I don't believe preserving the union is as important to people as it once was.
I know I couldn't care less if California as an example decided to pull out of the Union. Shoot, I'd be all for it.
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I would bet money that they would do so again if required to defend the union.
I really wonder if they would. I don't believe preserving the union is as important to people as it once was.
I know I couldn't care less if California as an example decided to pull out of the Union. Shoot, I'd be all for it.
I think you'll find that maintaining our territorial integrity is probably much stronger than you might realize.
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I would bet money that they would do so again if required to defend the union.
I think you'll find that maintaining our territorial integrity is probably much stronger than you might realize.
Probably so. Take the War between the States. Money was the prime motivator. The South was the cash cow that funded Washington. I suppose it would be the same today.
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I'm not a big fan of Beck.. but that was stupid.
Plus, when was the last time Beck was even on the air? I thought that he'd been gone for quite some time now. (like a year or more)
If you'd have gone with Dish instead of DTV then you'd get GBTV, the official network of preppers everywhere.
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I'm not a big fan of Beck.. but that was stupid.
This. Jon Stewart stopped being funny a long time ago.
I get his point, that the references to us becoming Russia or China are extremely exaggerated, at least for now, Europe not so much... so he takes the approach that just because we aren't there yet means that we must be in great shape and nothing is changing, which is also false.... He uses extreme examples, just like Beck does, to reach a false conclusion and get a laugh... such as "If you think we should have a safety net then you want us to be totally socialist"... its hard to argue that the "safety net" is ever expanding and that it really isn't even a safety net any more for a lot of people, it's a way of life.... but he mocked an easy target in Beck, got a few laughs, and some people find it brilliant.. okie dokie.
I'd also like to see him fill in his bubbles to the right to show the steps we are taking toward theocracy, the beard thing was kind of funny, but I'm thinking he'd have a hard time showing any justification for how we are moving in that direction.
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The only real difference I see is that Beck actually tried to say his comments were newsworthy while Stewart doesn't.
Stewart has gotten old and stale. At least he never claimed to actually be a news reporter. There are fringes in both directions. And it's those on the fringe that hurts the actual message of most people who are not as extreme.
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