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Receiver Josh Gordon was suspended without pay for the first two games next season for violating the NFL's substance abuse policy, the second year in a row that the Cleveland Browns will be missing a key player because of a drug-related punishment.

Gordon also was fined two additional game checks on Friday. He'll miss games against the Dolphins and defending Super Bowl-champion Ravens, and is eligible to return for a game against the Vikings.

Gordon said in a statement that he used cough medicine containing codeine -- a banned substance -- while recovering from strep throat in February. The league could have given him a four-game suspension.

"The policy terms are strict about unintentional ingestion, but the NFL has not imposed the maximum punishment in light of the facts of my case," Gordon said. "Therefore, I have chosen to be immediately accountable for the situation. I sincerely apologize for the impact on my team, coaches, and Browns fans."

It's the second year in a row that the Browns have a key player suspended early in the season. Cornerback Joe Haden was suspended four games last season for violating the league's policy on performance-enhancing substances. Haden acknowledged taking the stimulant Adderall. The Browns lost their four games without him.

Gordon caught 50 passes as a rookie last season, developing into the Browns' best deep threat. He led the team with 805 yards receiving and five touchdowns.

The Browns selected him in the second round of the supplemental draft, taking a chance on a player who had major problems at Baylor. He was dismissed from the Bears after getting suspended twice for using marijuana. He transferred to Utah but didn't play there after failing another drug test.

Gordon will be able to practice with the team and play in the preseason games.

"Obviously, we are all disappointed in this news," coach Rob Chudzinski said. "In our short time with Josh, he has done everything that we've asked him to do and he has exhibited substantial improvement.

"We believe that he will continue to work diligently through training camp and the preseason. I am confident that others will step up in his absence."



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Yeah this sucks at least its not pot


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I have a difficult time believing is story. ONE more slip up and his career is in serious jeopardy.


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I'm very torn about this. I don't feel Josh did anything wrong "on purpose". Yet at the same time, given his history, I would have hoped he would have been far more careful and had lived up to the letter of the law on this.

Sometimes, no, often times you can't escape your history. What's in the past is in the past, yet it can follow you as it has Josh. His history is what put him in the second tier of the NFL substance abuse policy from day 1.


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What a clown, given his history we might as well chalk up a year suspension at some point. Absolutely ridiculous, cough syrup my ass.

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I take that same cough syrup, he should know the policy better, but when you have strep throat sometimes you're judgement isn't the best. When my wife gets strep she's completely down for the count for at least 2-3 days.

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I'm really confused about this. Did he actually test positive for something else and we just didn't hear about it? Or did he not get the benefit of that first warning due to his issues in college?

If he did test positive for something after he got to the NFL, what was it?

Add: Does this also mean that Haden had also tested positive for something before he got busted in the Adderoll incident?

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It seems like the NFL believed his story somewhat. The usual suspension is four games but they reduced his to two games while fining him four game checks.

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and yes, you can come into the league with a strike... Gordon likely did.

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I was under the assumption that players are suspended 4 games for PED's ... however, codeine (or maybe he actually tested positve for marijuana because we'd never know and the league doesn't announce substances) is considered a recreational drug....and players are suspended 2 games for recreational drugs. So maybe his "story" is to cover up another marijuana bust.


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It's really impossible for us to know for sure what a player is suspended for, because the league isn't allowed to say. The player and/or his agent can claim anything, but the league will never confirm or deny anything.

The fact that he only got 2 games does lend credence to his statement that is was a mistake, but who knows for sure?


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It's my understanding that when a player gets busted for drugs, the league doesn't care how the player or agent spins it. I have a hard time believing that he took a banned substance by accident. I think he got busted for weed and he is having a hard time staying away from it. I hope I'm wrong and we never have to talk about this again.

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I've read on another site that whatever was in the cough meds is not on the NFL banned list, and that a player last yr. was busted for pot and he got a 2 game ban and lost 4 paychecks also. I think something is rotten in denmark


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I've read on another site that whatever was in the cough meds is not on the NFL banned list, and that a player last yr. was busted for pot and he got a 2 game ban and lost 4 paychecks also. I think something is rotten in denmark




Interesting theory. It'd be good to see something concrete in regards to this.


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I have read that codeine is on the banned substance list, and that's what Gordon claimed he tested positive for.

However, without any verification from the league, there's no way to know for sure. Players can say whatever they want, and the league cannot challenge it in any way.


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While we have no way of ever knowing, I would bet he was busted for marijuana and is using this story to cover up.


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It was in the Bleacher Report and a poster was commenting on the banned list and then named the other player that got caught last year. Take it for what's it's worth.


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I think two things are inevitable at this point.

1. He will be suspended again.
2. We will be actively looking for his replacement once this happens ... if we aren't already.

I've read that Josh Gordon the player is a hard worker, both on the field and in the classroom. There are reports that contradict this, but there are way more reports that support this.

I've also read that the off the field Josh Gordon doesn't keep good company and has a ton of negative influence in his life. He is going to get suspended again.

And it sucks because he is uber talented. The problem is you can't wait around for the next suspension. You've got to act now. The FO is in a very tough spot.

Gordon will screw us over at some point when we can least afford it.

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money just brings out who u truly are and i guess he is truly a junkie

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It's really impossible for us to know for sure what a player is suspended for, because the league isn't allowed to say. The player and/or his agent can claim anything, but the league will never confirm or deny anything.

The fact that he only got 2 games does lend credence to his statement that is was a mistake, but who knows for sure?




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and hopefully- this will be the last of his issues. He seemed to turn the corner. I guess time will tell.


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I think two things are inevitable at this point.

1. He will be suspended again.
2. We will be actively looking for his replacement once this happens ... if we aren't already.

I've read that Josh Gordon the player is a hard worker, both on the field and in the classroom. There are reports that contradict this, but there are way more reports that support this.

I've also read that the off the field Josh Gordon doesn't keep good company and has a ton of negative influence in his life. He is going to get suspended again.

And it sucks because he is uber talented. The problem is you can't wait around for the next suspension. You've got to act now. The FO is in a very tough spot.

Gordon will screw us over at some point when we can least afford it.






I agree Rish....the guy is a timebomb waiting to happen. I wouldn't count on him.


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I think two things are inevitable at this point.

1. He will be suspended again.
2. We will be actively looking for his replacement once this happens ... if we aren't already.

I've read that Josh Gordon the player is a hard worker, both on the field and in the classroom. There are reports that contradict this, but there are way more reports that support this.

I've also read that the off the field Josh Gordon doesn't keep good company and has a ton of negative influence in his life. He is going to get suspended again.

And it sucks because he is uber talented. The problem is you can't wait around for the next suspension. You've got to act now. The FO is in a very tough spot.

Gordon will screw us over at some point when we can least afford it.





agreed, he just cant stay out of trouble. he will be out of the nfl in a few years.....he will blow all his money.....then beg to come back and will say he is a changed man.....we have seen this story before....


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I don't like the idea of not having one of our best players (again) at the start of the year due to a suspension


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Oh I don't know Slick. Ricky Williams was in and out of trouble, suspended often, and he still played into his 30's. Kevin Mack supposedly had a Coke problem and the Browns found a way to get him back on track. I'm not ready to write the kid off just yet. I would have a backup plan however....


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I don't like the idea of not having one of our best players (again) at the start of the year due to a suspension




No one LIKES it. However, it does give some of the other receivers an opportunity to grab that opening and show they can back him up when needed. In the end it could actually work out well. Time will tell....


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I'm not buying the "at least its not pot" or "2 games means it was an honest mistake" stuff. People have been suspended 2 games for pot before and his history is not on his side.

Poor form, Josh. Your pissing away elite talent (no pun intended).....

Even if was codeine, I still lean on the chances that he was "sippin on some sizzurp" than a doctor prescription.

This is so frustrating.


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Here is an article about what I think he really took:

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“Lean” and “Purple Dank”: Dangerous Cocktail

“Lean” is another name for “Purple Drank,” the special drug cocktail (sipping syrup) that combines codeine-based cough syrup with promethazine, lemon-lime soda, ice, and crushed up hard candies. With those ingredients mixed together in a cup, the color of the blended components turns purple or pink. The core ingredient in “Purple Drank” is the codeine-promethazine cough syrup.
To produce Lean, one must first come into possession of diverted cough syrup. Promethazine and codeine is a controlled substance under Schedule III of the Federal Controlled Substances Act. The underground market for the cough syrup is brisk. A pint of promethazine and codeine cough syrup can cost up to $400. The average street price hovers around $250. In some cases, plain codeine cough syrup is substituted when the combination medicine can not be found. But true aficionados of lean will testify that plain codeine syrup falls far short of the effects of real promethazine-codeine products. Typically, Lean is mixed in a two-liter plastic bottle of lemon-lime soda with four ounces of cough syrup. Crushed up hard candies can be added at any point to the blending process. It takes several minutes for the candies to dissolve in the liquid. The candies, along with the lemon-lime flavoring of the soda tend to offset what can be a nauseating taste of cough syrup. Poured over cracked ice or small ice cubes, the drug is consumed from small foam cups. True “Lean” fans drink their cocktail from a foam cup. Music videos and pictures of rap artists using “Lean” or “Purple Drank” always depicts the drug being consumed from foam cups.

The effects of “Purple Drank” and “Lean” are dose dependent. Sharing the beverage with others as it’s poured from a two-liter plastic bottle, it’s unlikely that a partygoer will get any more drug than what would constitute one to two doses of straight-up cough syrup. In the end though, how much any one abuser ingests is dependent on how much is shared and how many glasses of “Lean” is consumed. Users are urged to nurse their “Purple Drank.” It’s encouraged to drink the mix it in a fashion similar to that of a martini or “scotch on the rocks.” Because both codeine and promethazine are central nervous system depressants, the effects of “Lean” can be quickly observed. http://blog.globalsafetynetwork.com/?p=367




Purple Dank is huge in Texas. Gordon went to Baylor where he was kicked off the team. I have said all along that it's hard to trust this guy. I am not arguing about how bad marijuana is, but man, if you get caught once and then do it again when you know they will kick you out of school...............and then do it again at a new university.........well, it just shows a lack of discipline and a warped sense of priorities.

Furthermore, this also relates to the arguments we have had about all the talent we have. That talent is being projected as good. They have not established themselves yet. And a guy like Gordon who many people were raving about might not end up delivering. It's all a big guessing game at this point.

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Dumb AND (mucho) Dumber! Stooopid. We have no team doctors to do this legit? Insist on stupidity, Josh.
Score points when you get a chance. Better do it in a hurry because the trajectory in his football life is NOT good IMO. Truly disappointing.


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Set the " Days without embarrassment, bad news, or sense of loss as a Browns fan clock" back to zero on the day this was announced.

I like this player, I support this player, I'm not going to blame this player. This guy is going to go out and score many TD's when he gets on the field.
Lookin forward to your return Josh!

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It seems like the NFL believed his story somewhat. The usual suspension is four games but they reduced his to two games while fining him four game checks.




The NFL reduce Big Ben's rape suspension, that doesn't mean anything.

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Even if was codeine, I still lean on the chances that he was "sippin on some sizzurp" than a doctor prescription.





The only people that would think otherwise are probably the same people who think Haslem's innocent.

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Similar to Haden and Adderall, Codeine would remain testable in urine for only 2-4 days. Whereas pot lasts for several weeks with multiple use. And steroids last several weeks with single use. Though they must be maskable considering how many players likely get away with it.

Either these guys are getting tested 2-4 days after their illness / Vegas parties or they are using drugs that stay in your urine longer. The latter is more likely.

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No one LIKES it. However, it does give some of the other receivers an opportunity to grab that opening and show they can back him up when needed. In the end it could actually work out well. Time will tell....





I agree. I think we are much deeper than last year at the position. If I was Bess, Nelson, or Benji, I would be determined to make sure the team doesn't miss him.


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I can see that a week and a half without this board hasn't softened anyone

There is nothing but conjecture at this point. The only one talking is Josh Gordon, he said he had strep throat, took a Medication prescribed by a Dr. and it contained a banned substance.

I understand he has a past, but he seemed to have cleaned up his act and performed very well for us last year.

I see no reason not to give him the benefit of the doubt until PROOF is shown otherwise.


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How is it conjecture?

He was kicked out of a school in college for failing multiple drug tests.

He went to a new university and got busted again for the same offense.

He has played in the NFL only one year and already has been suspended, meaning he once again has failed multiple drug tests.

Proof? There won't be any. The player can say anything he wants. The NFL will never say a word. With all the above evidence, I would like to see proof of his innocence. Do you have any?

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I understand he has a past, but he seemed to have cleaned up his act




When did he seem to have cleaned up his act?

He's played one year in the NFL and already failed two drug tests.

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How is it conjecture?

He was kicked out of a school in college for failing multiple drug tests.

He went to a new university and got busted again for the same offense.

He has played in the NFL only one year and already has been suspended, meaning he once again has failed multiple drug tests.

Proof? There won't be any. The player can say anything he wants. The NFL will never say a word. With all the above evidence, I would like to see proof of his innocence. Do you have any?




this recent issue is conjecture,, Can you name ONE reliable source that says anything other than what Gordon himself is saying? the NFL isn't talking, the Team isn't talking. Nobody is talking specifics. Nobody but the Media, What the hell do they really know if those "IN THE KNOW" aren't talking.


Yet, for some reason, some are taking his problems in College (I admit I don't like it in fact I hate it) and turning it into something in the NFL.

When did he fail a second drug test in the NFL?

and if you are saying that they let the first one slide, then tell me about Joe Haden. he must have failed 2 also then right?

He was suspended for 4 games last season.. Was that not his first offense? 4 game suspension for Joe and 2 for Josh (+ two extra game checks)

And didn't he do a pretty good job last year..

As for proof of innocence,, since when has that been the criteria.. I thought it was innocent until proven guilty.. I guess in every world except the world of Vers

Sometimes I think you want to argue just to argue..

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And if he can put up big numbers this season all will be forgiven. That's the way it works in the NFL. I must admit I thought "Purple Drank" when I first heard he got nailed for codeine. As long as he had a prescription he's going to get a pass on this one. Maybe he's learned a lesson, maybe not. I just want to see him put up some numbers before he crashes and burns.

I'm willing to wait and see how this circus plays out.


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There is no PROOF either way.

To my understanding his problems w/college was STRIKE ONE COMING IN...not some failed drug test after he became a member of the NFLPA. This put him on the NFL drug abuse program. So to my understanding because of this he has to pee in his cup every month and get tested.

Now the question is this.

1. Is it this innocent pee in the cup n some strong medicine showed up a banned substance in his prescription? Why it was just a 2 game suspension.

2. Or was that just BS n the fact is Jordan partied New Years Eve and it showed up in his drug test Feb. or just thought he could get away with it in Jan/Feb before the test as he got tempted to smoke a blunt. I've read that in some cases Marijuana was given just 2 game suspensions in the first offense of the Substance Abuse Program.

So although I don't think he was caught abusing drugs (marijuana) already n put on the ONE STRIKE. I am pretty sure it is on record that his history with drugs in college put him on the SAProgram Strike One format. Similar to that honey badger kid coming in with his Strike One.

I don't think we will ever know about 1. or 2. at least I hope not cause usually all that comes out if a guy gets put out of the NFL in the future. The kid can become the best WR we have had since 99 possibly ALL TIME??? Considering its a passing league now. Man get your head straight - don't understand all the hard work he has put it to throw it away with Pot Smoking. Not one person I knew in college back in the Sex n Drug era - I was the jock but my Fresh dorm was full of big time drug guys...one by one boom over night decided to straighten up n quit cold turkey w/Marijuana. them who didn't attempt to quit...dropped out. There is no physical addiction just mental.

Hope the kid becomes great!

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Defending this guy at this point is ludicrous. If this guy were a backup defensive linemen people would be up in arms that we need to cut him immediately! He put his team in a bad spot, he put his team mates in a bad spot and he put the entire franchise is a bad spot because everyone was counting on him. Now he's one suspension away from missing another entire year. That would be 2.

Looks like Lombardi was right about this kid.

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