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"If not, if you want to get Trent Green and go in a different (draft) direction - offensive line, running back, wide receiver, what have you

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See,he's talking about getting Green. AND his first mention in another direction was OFFENSIVE LINE!

That's it! I'm sold. He's showing his hand! This MUST mean he's going for Thomas!
(end of sracasm)

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I don't know that there's really a big rush on this one," Savage said. "I don't think it affects our draft strategy too much one way or the other.

"If we're inclined to take a quarterback, it would probably be good to have a Trent Green on board as a mentor type of player.

"If not, if you want to get Trent Green and go in a different (draft) direction - offensive line, running back, wide receiver, what have you - then at least you're hedging your bet a little bit that the position is covered a little bit more than it is right now."

Head Coach Romeo Crennel keeps saying Charlie Frye has "a leg up" on Derek Anderson in the race for the No. 1 QB job in 2007. Savage said he has talked about Green with Frye and Anderson.

"If we get (Green), great. If we don't, great, we'll move on," Savage said. "The onus is on Charlie and Derek to prepare for next season as if one of those two is gonna be our quarterback, and that ultimately could be the way this thing shakes out."



Theres a key sentence in there for those that feel the QB doesn't need a UPGRADE...

if you want to get Trent Green - then at least you're hedging your bet a little bit that the position is covered a little bit more than it is right now."

If they felt Chuck/DA was the man..he never would have said that..remember last year they didn't want Chuck looking over his shoulder..

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Give it up Attack. You're wasting your energy. If they don't accept by now that we're seriously looking at Green, they never will be able to. Let people believe what they wish to believe, even if it means they can't fathom the reality that we're looking at upgrading the position.

We'll just go along knowing better.

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You know my stance on Frye bro, and I'd have NO issue bringing in Trent Green. It gives next season a brighter outlook and brings in a GREAT guy to mentor Frye. Add Thomas or Peterson in the draft and things are looking up for this Franchise.

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Best post I have seen to date from a Frye supporter regarding this issue!

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IDK who cant accept the fact Savage is looking at Green, sure people have different opinions on how hard we're going after him....but I've yet to see someone say, "We're not interested in Green!"

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There are a few. You're not just lookin' hard enough Mav my friend

I know your stance on Frye, and you know that to a certain extent I agree with you. I also agree that getting him makes this team better, even if Frye is the starter.

However, some few still don't want to believe that this is an indictment against Frye. I'm afraid it is. We aren't interested in sending a decent draft and handing a new contract to an aging QB just to play backup. We did what we did with Dilfer because we needed him to start for a year. If it were truly as a backup, we probably wouldn't have done it.

I'd also ask that you keep in mind that Green is handed the starters job in Miami. Everyone in the league knows it. So why would Opie waste his time in trying to lure him here when he can sign with a better team, with his former OC, in a better climate, and be handed the starting gig when we're just trying to get him here as a backup?

It simply doesn't add up.

Frankly, I'm torn. I'd like Frye to have one more shot at this thing behind what's obviously an improved line. However, I'm also adamant that, at a minimum, we need an insurance policy, and at a max, we need a guy to BE the starter so Frye can learn some more. If we draft a QB in the 1st Frye is done here. If we get Green, Frye is benched and we get to use our 1st rounder on another position (unless Savage STILL wants to draft a QB, in which Frye is beyond toast). If we don't get an insurance policy and draft a 2nd or 3rd round QB, I don't know that we're any better off this year than we were last.

I'd rather we just get Green, name him the starter, give Frye a year or two to learn, and spend the pick on someone else.

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Browns | Savage in no hurry on Green trade
Fri, 6 Apr 2007 14:11:27 -0700

Steve Doerschuk, of the Canton Repository, reports Cleveland Browns general manager Phil Savage is not in a hurry to try to trade for Kansas City Chiefs QB Trent Green and said that the situation may not be resolved until the weekend of the 2007 NFL Draft. It is believed Savage will not offer anything more that a fifth-round pick, however he may swap third-round picks for Green.

KFFL

[Good... or better yet, wait until they cut him.]

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It is believed Savage will not offer anything more that a fifth-round pick, however he may swap third-round picks for Green.

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Thus, I think Phil and the Browns are throwing out tons of stuff, some smoke some not in an effort to confuse the situation.

I'm betting that in every war room for every team in the league, there is similar stunts being pulled...

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a 5th is one thing...early 3rd for late 3rd is too costly, IMO...early 3rd you get a guy who slips out of the 2nd round and could push to start by day1...

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Thus, I think Phil and the Browns are throwing out tons of stuff, some smoke some not in an effort to confuse the situation.

I'm betting that in every war room for every team in the league, there is similar stunts being pulled...


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That sums the whole thing up in a nut shell.

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I thought so, but nothing is ever that simple on here is it

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I thought so, but nothing is ever that simple on here is it

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It is in my posts

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(If he gets here,) he'll end up having to compete for the starting job and there's no guarentee he'll win it. He could end up as the #2 or even #3

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Are you serious?

I understand Green is old and beat up, but Anderson can't hold Green's jock.

Frye while he is one hell of a competitor, he is still not a complete quarterback which I can assume most Browns fans agree on just by reading the posts that regularily show up here. So in that respect Frye would be the back up.

The question regarding Green should be, if he was acquired, does he fit this style of offense, can he adjust to the offense, and can he bring this team to another level in the immeadiate future?

Green being in a Browns uniform will one way or another help the Browns, but it also depends on what it will cost to get him. He has a short life left in the NFL, so he would be used to mentor on and off the field, BUT WHO would he mentor? Frye or a QB that is not currently on the team?

Oh, well, don't matter to me one way or the other because this season he'll no longer be a Chief and Huard better repeat what he did last season.

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The question regarding Green should be, if he was acquired, does he fit this style of offense, can he adjust to the offense, and can he bring this team to another level in the immeadiate future?

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You're not getting a value for Green UNLESS he's willing to restrucure his contract to a reasonable price. That remains to be seen.

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That sort of goes without saying, doesn't it?

Green and the Fish have allready agreed on a restructured deal. He's willing.

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I just think everyone is so news starved,they're making much more out of this than is waranted to this juncture.

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Considering that many have been adamant that we're not looking at QB's, somewhat presumably in defense of Frye, I think the fact that we're now trying to get him here to talk contract is news. Making too much out of it? Hardly. We're talking about a situation where the GM of the team.........the very focal point for this board and the reason it exists...........is trying to get a guy in here to be our starting QB next year.

God knows that's more newsworthy than the backup DE that the Jaguars just signed

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I think the fact that we're now trying to get him here to talk contract is news.

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Browns gearing to lure Green
Friday, April 06, 2007Mary Kay CabotPlain Dealer Reporter
The Browns are apparently ready to step up their pursuit of Chiefs quarterback Trent Green.

Browns General Manager Phil Savage told WTAM AM/1100 on Thursday morning that the next step is to negotiate a "ballpark contract" for Green that would prompt him to want to come to Cleveland for a visit.

Green's agent, Jim Steiner, declined to comment Thursday night on possible negotiations - but also didn't deny that they've begun.

So far, Green, 36, has said he only wants to be traded to the Dolphins, who are also in the hunt. But Savage seems to think that if he can get Green's foot in the door, his arm and the rest of him might follow.

"The attraction for us would be we're gonna run a similar offense to where he has been," Savage said.

Green, who's under contract next season for $7.2 million, wants to be reunited in Miami with new head coach Cam Cameron, who coached him in Washington. But new Browns offensive coordinator Rob Chudzinski worked under Cameron the past two seasons in San Diego and will install a similar offense. What's more, the Dolphins are offering only a 7th-round pick and the Chiefs are seeking a second-round pick.

Savage also told WTAM that he's talked to quarterbacks Charlie Frye and Derek Anderson about his interest in Green and that a trade might not take place until draft day, April 28. Green worked out in the Chiefs' off-season program Thursday, but was mum on his situation.

Meanwhile, the Browns hosted two other hot quarterback prospects this week in LSU's JaMarcus Russell and Notre Dame's Brady Quinn. Oklahoma running back Adrian Peterson also visited the Browns facility. The three are being strongly considered by the Browns with their No. 3 overall pick in the draft.

Russell and Peterson were here on Wednesday, and Quinn arrived Wednesday evening and spent part of Thursday here as well.

If the Browns hope to land one of the quarterbacks, they might have to trade up to do so. It's widely believed that Russell, who's been attending Savage's football camps in their shared hometown of Mobile, Ala., since he was 14, will be picked No. 1 by the Oakland Raiders.

Adding intrigue to the situation is that Russell and Frye share the same agent, Eric Metz.

Two other top prospects, Wisconsin tackle Joe Thomas and Georgia Tech receiver Calvin Johnson, are not believed to have visits scheduled to Cleveland yet, but that doesn't preclude the Browns from drafting them.

To reach this Plain Dealer reporter:

mcabot@plaind.com, 216-999-4670

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"The attraction for us would be we're gonna run a similar offense to where he [Trent Green] has been," Savage said.

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Just the fact that he's looking to bring him in for a visit says there's no faith in Frye or Anderson as starters.

Green wouldn't come here to backup, period.

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In the course of his duties, any GM has to always be on the lookout for anyway to improve his team... That means bringing in players that will either start or compete to start or will back up existing starters,,, Hard to deny that..

But you say it's a foregone conclusion that they don't have faith in Frye or Anderson,, I don't see that... I see it as they think bringing in Green will improve the team... and in truth, that's probably correct. Green is a much more accomplished QB then either of ours.. But he's going on 37 and he's had a serious head injury (he's probably alright but still) so clearly, he's NOT a long term answer....

But does any of that mean they have given up on Frye or Anderson,, not necessarily! Granted, it could mean that, but then I think you would have seen a rush to look at Harrington and/or Carr. You may have seen or heard rumors about us and Culpepper..

You and I both heard a little something,, some stirrings about Carr.. But man they went away quickly.. and all Carr would have cost us in money,,, no picks.

But, this thing with Green seems to have some legs to it. At the very least, it's the longest running rumor

In the end, you are making assumptions which may or may not be true,,, time will tell Ammo,,, Time will tell!

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Frye while he is one hell of a competitor, he is still not a complete quarterback which I can assume most Browns fans agree on just by reading the posts that regularily show up here. So in that respect Frye would be the back up.

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If you're basing your certain belief on what most fans seem to agree on...

Don't think for a second that if Green does come here, he couldn't be beat out for the starting job by Frye or Quinn or Russell, (forgot about those two?) or yes... even Anderson. If you know anything about this team, you'd know that the starting spot will be determined by competition. If you're absolutely certain Green would start, you absolutely know more than Savage because if that were the case, he'd already be signed.

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Just the fact that he's looking to bring him in for a visit says there's no faith in Frye or Anderson as starters.

Green wouldn't come here to backup, period.

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