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http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ss...#incart_best-ofCleveland Browns' Barkevious Mingo, due to report Friday, still unsigned due to 'offset language' battle CLEVELAND, Ohio -- With Browns rookies due to report to Berea on Friday, the team and first-round pick Barkevious Mingo are still at odds over his contract, a league source told The Plain Dealer. Specifically, the Browns want offset language in the deal, and Mingo's side does not. Offset language addresses a player who is released before his fully-guaranteed four-year contract has expired. With such language, the original team only has to pay the difference between what it owed the player and what he'll make from a new team. With no offset language, the player receives the full amount from his original team and a new team. Mingo, the No. 6 overall pick out of Louisiana State, is one of three unsigned Browns draft picks. The other two are third-round pick Leon McFadden, a cornerback out of San Diego State, and seventh-round pick Armonty Bryant, a defensive lineman out of East Central University. The Browns are confident that all three will be in on time, according to a source. But "on time'' at least in Mingo's case might mean when the full squad takes the field for the start of training camp July 25. Mingo, who worked with the second team during minicamp, is set to make slightly more than his former LSU teammate, cornerback Morris Claiborne, received from the Cowboys last season. Claiborne, the sixth pick in 2012, received a fully-guaranteed four-year deal worth a total of $16.26 million, including a $10.3 million signing bonus. He does not have offset language. So far, only three of this year's top 10 picks have signed, and none have offset language in their contracts. They are No. 2 pick Luke Joeckel of the Jaguars (four years, $21.2 million), No. 5 pick Ziggy Ansah of the Lions (five years, estimated $18.6 million) and No. 8 pick Tavon Austin of the Rams (four year, $12.751 million). Last year, only one of the top nine players had offset language in his contract -- Miami QB Ryan Tannehill. During the rookie symposium last month in Berea, Mingo was eager to start camp on time. "I am ready,” he said. “I’m just looking forward to it, being able to come out here, put the pads on for the first time and actually, I guess, measure up to the older guys and see where I am and see what I have to do to get better."
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Hard to know how this will go. Most of the top 10 type draft picks don't get offset language. Tannehill was the only one to get that in his contract last year. I think that teams are going to try and work this in to more and more rookie contracts, and that there will be some holdouts as a result. (depending on just how hardline teams are)
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It shouldn't be a big deal. The contract is not that large and really why would you take a guy at 6 overall if you think there's any chance you'll be releasing him in the first four years of his deal?
For practical purposes, it's not an issue until he starts missing time. He is going through a position change, however, so it's important for his career to get all the reps he can. He's looking at being a backup, though, so I think a holdout hurts him more than the team. I think the Browns have the leverage here... if you want to look at it that way.
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seems like an unnecessary addition to the contract, as mentioned above, you should plan to keep a top 10 pick for atleast 4 years. but i guess it is a business savvy move, and with him being a backup/3rd down pass rusher, the team can afford to have him sit out if he doesnt sign immediately, over that.
not worried. pass rush specialists can rely more on instincts and athletic ability as opposed to some one with very strict complicated assignments.
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It shouldn't be a big deal. The contract is not that large and really why would you take a guy at 6 overall if you think there's any chance you'll be releasing him in the first four years of his deal?
For practical purposes, it's not an issue until he starts missing time. He is going through a position change, however, so it's important for his career to get all the reps he can. He's looking at being a backup, though, so I think a holdout hurts him more than the team. I think the Browns have the leverage here... if you want to look at it that way.
Good points all the way around.
Although I've been giving the new FO the benefit of the doubt and in particular Banners supposed "stingy" reputation, there are prob more than a few fans who will lay 100% of the blame on the FO. If that's their rep on these boards and elsewhere it's not something the FO probably needs right now.
With the D Backfield concerns it would certainly be nice to see McFadden in as well.
With Bryant's past indescretions imo it's 100% FO on him not being signed as of yet. Does Bryant even have a leg to stand on right now???
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I agree. If you are thinking you might cut the guy before his 4th year, you deserve to pay the piper and pay the full value of the contract.
I can see having offset language in lower round picks, but a top 10 pick...no way.
I side with management on many of these situations, but in this case, if Mingo misses time, this is clearly the Browns being dorks. Just sign him for crying-out-loud....Geesh.
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my concern is that if you are worried about releasing him before the 4yrs are over. why in hell did you pick him at #6 overall to begin with. sorta makes you think that it was a risk at #6 to begin with.
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Why are they waiting on picks about them? Austin was picked 8th and and doesn't have it. They're the ones that boned it for everyone if there's a statement to be made.
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just wonder where a Career ending injury would fit into this?
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just wonder where a Career ending injury would fit into this?
Separately, under injury settlements.
This tells me that they may not be completely sold on his ability to make the conversion to OLB... which goes right back to "why the hell would you take him at 6 if you are not CERTAIN?". Pay him, because if he doesn't cut it, you deserve to pay a heavier price for taking the risk.
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my only thought was....
if you pick a top 10 player... you should have no doubt that he will be a stud with a 10+ year career. If you need to protect yourself against your own top 10 selections... there may be larger internal issues in play esp since the contracts are so friendly in comparison to 3-4 years ago.
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The Browns should absolutely be ready to go all-in on the guy because he was a top 10 pick and top 10 picks are always guaranteed to stay with teams for 4 years and give great production on the field for those 4 years. Am I right? If a top 10 pick had been a bust in the past, I could understand their hesitation. But, I've never seen that happen before...
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Sounds like a Banner thing. I like it. I hope the Browns get him to sign on our terms.
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I would have been more surprised if Banner didnt try to stick it to the rookies lol.
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This tells me that they may not be completely sold on his ability to make the conversion to OLB... which goes right back to "why the hell would you take him at 6 if you are not CERTAIN?". Pay him, because if he doesn't cut it, you deserve to pay a heavier price for taking the risk.
I really don't like the sound of this at all. I agree with your post and have no idea why they would take a guy at #6 and then try to get him to sign a deal out of line with those drafted above him and just below him.
I just hope situations like these don't become a trend.
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This tells me that they may not be completely sold on his ability to make the conversion to OLB... which goes right back to "why the hell would you take him at 6 if you are not CERTAIN?". Pay him, because if he doesn't cut it, you deserve to pay a heavier price for taking the risk.
I really don't like the sound of this at all. I agree with your post and have no idea why they would take a guy at #6 and then try to get him to sign a deal out of line with those drafted above him and just below him.
I just hope situations like these don't become a trend.
It's just the art of the deal. One will cave in. not sure which. Not reading anything else into it.
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This tells me that they may not be completely sold on his ability to make the conversion to OLB... which goes right back to "why the hell would you take him at 6 if you are not CERTAIN?". Pay him, because if he doesn't cut it, you deserve to pay a heavier price for taking the risk.
I really don't like the sound of this at all. I agree with your post and have no idea why they would take a guy at #6 and then try to get him to sign a deal out of line with those drafted above him and just below him.
I just hope situations like these don't become a trend.
Just look at the top 10 picks from 4 years ago:
1--Matthew Stafford (Lions)
2--Jason Smith (Rams)
3--Tyson Jackson (Chiefs)
4--Aaron Curry (Seahawks)
5--Mark Sanchez (Jets)
6--Andre Smith (Bengals)
7--Darrius Heyward-Bey (Raiders)
8--Eugene Monroe (Jaguars)
9--B.J. Raji (Packers)
10--Michael Crabtree (49ers)
Just because a guy is taken in the top 10, it doesn't mean they're going to be a great player worth the contract Mingo is looking for. There is uncertainty and I can't blame the Browns for a second for being cautious and smart about the contract they give him.
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I would assume later round picks its not an issue due to the expense n tenure of the contract not being great.
What bothers me. Is you make a top 10 pick n then have a problem in the language regarding the trust in your ability to make a proper draft pick that will provide impact. Unless its the norm for top 15 draft picks or first round draft picks w/the longest terms of rookie contracts to sign with that clause.
If not the norm then something that makes me cringe a bit if it carries on for a while.
Not a big knowledge guy on contracts...hopefully some dawgs here can educate me a bit.
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Say what you will.
It was well pointed out that this is not the norm for top 10 picks. If it were that would be different.
But in this case, they're expecting Mingo to accept terms that were not accepted last year by the same pick as he was. As a matter of fact Tannehill was the only one in the top 10 last year to accept such a condition in his contract.
Most don't uphold this FO on "everything" they do. This is one case in which they are asking for more than should be accepted by Mingo.
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This tells me that they may not be completely sold on his ability to make the conversion to OLB... which goes right back to "why the hell would you take him at 6 if you are not CERTAIN?". Pay him, because if he doesn't cut it, you deserve to pay a heavier price for taking the risk.
I really don't like the sound of this at all. I agree with your post and have no idea why they would take a guy at #6 and then try to get him to sign a deal out of line with those drafted above him and just below him.
I just hope situations like these don't become a trend.
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I think it already is a trend.
and yea those penny pinching Holmgren and heckert last year. waiting to the last minute LMAO. 
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Mingo, who worked with the second team during minicamp, is set to make slightly more than his former LSU teammate, cornerback Morris Claiborne, received from the Cowboys last season. Claiborne, the sixth pick in 2012, received a fully-guaranteed four-year deal worth a total of $16.26 million, including a $10.3 million signing bonus. He does not have offset language.
So far, only three of this year's top 10 picks have signed, and none have offset language in their contracts. They are No. 2 pick Luke Joeckel of the Jaguars (four years, $21.2 million), No. 5 pick Ziggy Ansah of the Lions (five years, estimated $18.6 million) and No. 8 pick Tavon Austin of the Rams (four year, $12.751 million).
It does seem they're asking for something not in line with similar picks to me.
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and yea those penny pinching Holmgren and heckert last year. waiting to the last minute LMAO.
While your humor is glib at best, they too were asking for more than they should have from TRich.
And as was noted in the above article, every top 10 pick from last year accept Tannehill got their guarantee. That would include TRich.
I'm not mac so you can get over yourself in that department.
All I said was they're asking for something I don't believe that Mingo should be willing to accept. And as I've pointed out, all but one of last years picks didn't accept it and so far this year people in the top 10 selected above and below Mingo haven't accepted it.
I didn't know that comprehending what I did and didn't post would be so difficult for you. But you'll have that from time to time.
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I'm more worried about McFadden not getting in on time. That guy needs each and every rep possible. "Mental reps" don't count. 
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I agree. If you are thinking you might cut the guy before his 4th year, you deserve to pay the piper and pay the full value of the contract.
I can see having offset language in lower round picks, but a top 10 pick...no way.
I side with management on many of these situations, but in this case, if Mingo misses time, this is clearly the Browns being dorks. Just sign him for crying-out-loud....Geesh.
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I agree. If you are thinking you might cut the guy before his 4th year, you deserve to pay the piper and pay the full value of the contract.
I can see having offset language in lower round picks, but a top 10 pick...no way.
I side with management on many of these situations, but in this case, if Mingo misses time, this is clearly the Browns being dorks. Just sign him for crying-out-loud....Geesh.
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I would have been more surprised if Banner didnt try to stick it to the rookies lol.
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I do dig the whole "hey, show me, prove to me and earn your money" or "offset language". Top ten pick or not, I am sure Raiders would have LOVED to have some "offset language" with the JarMarcus draft pick. A draft "bust" shouldn't be a "rich and wealthy" draft bust. If you can't play, you shouldn't get paid player-type money!
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and yea those penny pinching Holmgren and heckert last year. waiting to the last minute LMAO.
While your humor is glib at best, they too were asking for more than they should have from TRich.
And as was noted in the above article, every top 10 pick from last year accept Tannehill got their guarantee. That would include TRich.
I'm not mac so you can get over yourself in that department.
All I said was they're asking for something I don't believe that Mingo should be willing to accept. And as I've pointed out, all but one of last years picks didn't accept it and so far this year people in the top 10 selected above and below Mingo haven't accepted it.
I didn't know that comprehending what I did and didn't post would be so difficult for you. But you'll have that from time to time.
17 first round picks remain unsigned just days before training camp
The Miami Dolphins and Dallas Cowboys kick-off the training camp season this weekend and despite a rookie wage scale, 17 first round picks remain unsigned. The majority of the first round selections are simply negotiating whether or not off-set language will included in their rookie deals. If the dialogue is put in their contract, the player will not have a fully-guaranteed deal.
Three of the top five players taken in the 2013 NFL Draft remain unsigned. While Jacksonville's Luke Joeckel and Detroit's Ziggy Ansah got their deals done early, the Chiefs, Dolphins and Eagles all remain in negotiations with their prized selections. It has already been reported that both Philadelphia's Lane Johnson and Miami's Dion Jordan are holding off on signing a deal in order to avoid the aforementioned offset language. Both players are still new to the positions that they will play in the NFL, so a long absence from training camp could be a major blow to their instant impact. Johnson in particular is expected to have a major role in his rookie season, so a delay to his development puts Chip Kelly and Co. in a tough spot.
Former Eagles Head Coach Andy Reid is dealing with a rookie issue of his own. The Chiefs took Eric Fisher with the first overall pick and the signing of his deal could be the domino that gets the rest of the rookie holdouts into camp sooner rather than later. Fellow top ten picks like New York's Dee Milliner, Tennessee's Chance Warmack, Arizona's Jonathan Cooper and Cleveland's Barkevious Mingo also are without deals and could benefit from one or two more signings in the top five.
Here is a full list of first round picks that remain unsigned, just days before training camps commence:
1 Eric Fisher Offensive Tackle Chiefs 3 Dion Jordan Defensive End Dolphins 4 Lane Johnson Offensive Tackle Eagles 6 Barkevious Mingo Defensive End Browns 7 Jonathan Cooper Offensive Guard Cardinals 9 Dee Milliner Cornerback Jets 10 Chance Warmack Offensive Guard Titans 12 D.J. Hayden Cornerback Raiders 13 Sheldon Richardson Defensive Tackle Jets 19 Justin Pugh Offensive Tackle Giants 22 Desmond Trufant Cornerback Falcons 23 Sharrif Floyd Defensive Tackle Vikings 24 Bjoern Werner Defensive End Colts 25 Xavier Rhodes Cornerback Vikings 26 Datone Jones Defensive End Packers 27 DeAndre Hopkins Wide Receiver Texans 28 Sylvester Williams Defensive Tackle Broncos 29 Cordarrelle Patterson Wide Receiver Vikings 32 Matt Elam Safety Ravens
Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sbna...Bq00CTGXumYY.99
only 3 top 10 picks are signed. a lot of teams do this. same in 2011 and 2012. sure seams like a trend to me. I added the h&h thing because a lot of people are saying its all banner and do not seam to realize its the same every year.
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And that's fine and well.
Problem being, it remains quite a problem and the facts that both picks above Mingo and one below Mingo have all signed with their deals to be fully in place without the clause.
The fact still remains that all but one of last years top 10 picks signed deals that fully guaranteed the deals.
Owners got what they wanted in the rookie contract structures yet still want more it seems. I see it as no less wrong than before. Because one side of an arrangement wants everything their way doesn't make it right.
I didn't know this was a trend, but it's still not right.
Thanks for pointing out it's a much bigger trend than I realized but I still stand by the opinion that one side can't have their cake and eat it too which is what it appears the owners want in this instance.
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All I know is the hard negotiations on this would be a fine line building to that line being drawn in the sand by the players.
Reasoning as follows - the more a rookie misses camp the more he fall behind until it reaches a point where expectations of impact are minimal due to the missing time.
So that the risk for - Well he is not worth the money spent on a top 10 pick might be the case or a trade made where I think this applies as well???
Again totally layman on contracts.
The way I see it...as long as he is in camp with the big boys its all Good.
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I can understand teams wanting to be able to cut their losses should an expensive player bust out. Kinda like a stop loss. We'd be crushing the Browns if they ever got themselves into CAP hell. So I get it. It's smart business.
But I do think this is tacky. like you said They fought for and got a rookie contract structure that is very team friendly. pushing this kind of stipulation seems overkill. JMO
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If a player is released and not signed by another team, isn't his original team responsible for the entire contract? An offset of zero would be 100%.
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To my small knowledge the new CBA gives the first round rookies four year contracts with option of five year. I guess if we released him let's say around his 3rd or fourth year, you're right and dead on... likely no other team will want him leaving the initial team to fulfill.
The aspect of another team wanting him would have been pointless (for very obvious reasons) in terms of JarMarcus comment. But it's better still to have some of those extracurricular details in the contract. Teams like Dallas and New England always like first round players in need of some help/turnaround. Even Rolando McClain got picked up before "retiring" or whatever.
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I can understand teams wanting to be able to cut their losses should an expensive player bust out. Kinda like a stop loss. We'd be crushing the Browns if they ever got themselves into CAP hell. So I get it. It's smart business.
But I do think this is tacky. like you said They fought for and got a rookie contract structure that is very team friendly. pushing this kind of stipulation seems overkill. JMO
And it's not like a team is going to give up on a player after 2 years. It just doesn't happen with first rounders.
This isn't me bashing Banner...I have liked everything he has done to this point....this stuff goes on league wide....and it's stupid.
If the owners want to cut their losses from signing bad picks, make all first round contracts for 2 years, then let the guys get to the money contract.
As I said earlier, my track record is usually with ownership in these matters....at least when guys were getting 50 mil contracts. The players/union have given up much regarding rookie contracts to give more cash to proven players....good move, but now the owners need to get off this offset language crap, go with the scale and call it a done deal.
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Sounds like a Banner thing. I like it. I hope the Browns get him to sign on our terms.
Indeed? And if he holds out well into the season? If he only sees spot duty all season because of a hold out? You will be cool with that?
Seriously though, I don't care much when we sign him. As long as the team is ready to play great football in September, who takes the field means nothing.
Just don't make excuses about your #1 pick holding out....
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This tells me that they may not be completely sold on his ability to make the conversion to OLB... which goes right back to "why the hell would you take him at 6 if you are not CERTAIN?". Pay him, because if he doesn't cut it, you deserve to pay a heavier price for taking the risk.
I really don't like the sound of this at all. I agree with your post and have no idea why they would take a guy at #6 and then try to get him to sign a deal out of line with those drafted above him and just below him.
I just hope situations like these don't become a trend.
It's just the art of the deal. One will cave in. not sure which. Not reading anything else into it.
I agree with this 100%
Not a big deal to me unless he holds out
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I don't see anything wrong with the FO wanting offset language in the contract.
If he works hard and plays well then it becomes a non-issue. So perhaps in that way it's a bit of an incentive to work hard and play well.
If he slacks-off or can't make the transition to OLB and we release him and another team picks him up he will get the full amount of the contract anyway only it would come to him in a different way. A little from each team. Either way he makes his full, original contract amount without losing anything whatsoever.
Why should he be paid in full by the Browns for the time he is not with the Browns? And then on top of that get his full pay from his new contract with his new team?
For some reason I don't see what's fair about getting paid as though you were playing for your original team even though you're not and then getting paid on top of that for actually playing for your new team.
How many of us would love to get paid for working two jobs while working only one?
Unless I misunderstand what offset language means, omitting it seems unfair to the original team and is fully loaded in favor of the player. On the other hand, the offset language is not in favor of either the original team or the player. What it does is guarantees that the player will get the full amount of money that he expected to get when he signed his original deal. That's a hell of a guarantee for a guy who gets fired.
I'll agree that no offset language would be a "vote of confidence" from the FO that the player will do well and I'm sure that for some players that would be an incentive to work hard and do well knowing the team believes in them. Perhaps for other players an incentive to hold out would come from the possibility of missing out on the "extra" money he would get should he fail and get cut and signed by someone else. But that almost seems like an incentive to fail if all the player cared about was the money.
Either way one side has to back down so he doesn't miss any reps. That seems to be the most important issue here.
If Mingo feels that being here is the most important issue and talks go down to the wire then he will instruct his agent to get the deal done with the offset language included to avoid, at all costs, falling behind at the very beginning of his career. On the other hand, if his agent can convince him that the money is the most important issue then he may miss reps in a hold-out. (Read Brady Quinn)
It's all very interesting. I don't care how it shakes out, only that I want him here the first minute the gates open.
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I wanted to add one more thing but couldn't figure out how to get it in without it becoming a distraction to the point I was trying to make above...
This does seem like a Banner thing in which he puts all the players on notice that the team expects hard work, discipline, loyalty and accountability. It appears that no one is a lock just because they were drafted high or that he is "our guy" rather than the previous regime's guy. This offset language he desires in Mingo's contract is a way to start that accountability on the right foot from day one. In other words, you work your ass off to improve because we're not paying you extra for failing.
He has done this publicly with Gordon specifically in saying he needs to work hard to improve because as a second round pick you expect an impact player. That was before his suspension even. This set a tone that you are expected to be ruthless in your work ethic and desire to make an impact.
That's quite different from Holmgren who stated in a press conference when questioned why they weren't attempting to improve the receiver corps, "We like our group of receivers. We really do". Honestly, doesn't that sound like nothing more is expected of them than that which they've already given? Banner is trying to instill in everyone that a lot is expected of them.
He's been non-committal on Brandon Weeden publicly as well. His comments are always that players need to work hard and improve.
I think this is one way to build a mind-set of hard work and improvement as well as accountability.
This team has needed some toughness from the top down for a long time. For far too long there has been a culture of "understanding the circumstances" and may I say a coddling of some players.
Although I did not like many of Mangini's tactics he is the only one so far who understood that the toughness of the team is developed through a toughness from above.
He tried to accomplish that but he had no backup. Plus he was not in a position of authority to decide to "take his time" to build the team the way he felt it needed to be built. You know, the "process". Because there were fans who grew impatient. And there was a FO who grew impatient because there were fans who grew impatient and so they needed a scapegoat because they didn't know themselves what the hell to do.
In Banner's case, he's impatient now.
He is in the position of authority to take the time necessary to build the team into a tough, competitive contender and he knows where that has to start, right at the top.
I'm sure he's outlined this to Haslem in their initial meetings. Haslem, on the other hand, slipped into the "understanding the circumstances" group when he said, "We're not going 13-3 this year". I'll bet Banner climbed up on a stool and slapped him upside the head for that comment.
We fans have been bitching that our team is everybody's bitch for so long and now comes a guy who demands accountability, toughness and hard work, desire and dedication and we revolt against him because that's not how we're used to seeing it done.
I hated the Banner hire, and even more Lombardi. But in the time since, I've listened to his comments and statements and their actions and I agree with the attempt to start at the beginning building a tough, competitive team. Yeah, sometimes I wish we'd have spent enough free agent money to fix all the holes in the roster this off season because I'm impatient and want to win now, but I understand why they didn't and I agree with their plan as I see it unfolding.
Start out tough. The team will expect you to be tough and they'll become tough because of it. After 10 years and three AFC Championships, (and maybe even a Superbowl this time), the schtick will grow old and we'll run him out of town.
But it will be a great ride if it works out.
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